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EvilLunch

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« Reply #280 on: 05-06-2004 19:25 »
« Last Edit on: 05-14-2004 00:00 »

The Pet Shop manga is very nice, I think it's better than the anime.. It's not for everyone, though. Seems like the manga would appeal mostly to teenage girls with a taste for the macabre. The anime is more shonen, dark and bloody and well stocked with naked mermaids.
EDIT: TOTP! To celebrate...

One of the most yaoi-doujinshied men in manga today.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #281 on: 05-10-2004 07:18 »

Right chaps, is the perfect boxset of Evangelion only available in region 1? I need to know because I really don't want to spend ridiculous amounts on each episode when you can get the lot for alot cheaper. I think.
EvilLunch

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« Reply #282 on: 05-10-2004 20:02 »

So far as I know, yeah, it's only region 1. I don't think ADV releases its DVDs in any other format. Damn, why can't all DVDs be all-region?
evan

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« Reply #283 on: 05-12-2004 01:29 »

So I basically just wasted my money when I bought the Director's Cut of Episodes 21 to 26 then.  Or are those "examples" of what's going to be on the Perfect Collection?  How many times am I going to buy and resell this freakin' series?
Nurdbot

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« Reply #284 on: 05-12-2004 01:43 »
« Last Edit on: 05-12-2004 01:43 »

When they said people went insane watching Eva, I never thought they actually meant it.
3/4 of a Jesus

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« Reply #285 on: 05-14-2004 18:47 »

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
Seems like the manga would appeal mostly to teenage girls with a taste for the macabre.

Hmmm... funny you should say that, EL....

  evil laugh   big grin
EvilLunch

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« Reply #286 on: 05-14-2004 20:12 »

:cough: Shutup :cough:
Would you believe I posted that without even one teaspoon of irony? Goes to show.. um.. Well it goes to show somethin' anyway.
Klumsy Kitty

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« Reply #287 on: 05-15-2004 22:58 »

Hmmm, I should have found this thread sooner but I have not put a lot of time into PEEL yet, I have enough trouble just keeping up with one small anime forum.  roll eyes Needless to say I am an anime fan first and a Futurama fan second.(Sacralige!)  laff

You all pretty much summed it up on the first 7 pages; people who don't like anime usually only get to see the americanized, bastardized,cut to shreds versions they deign to throw on TV. They also either think of them as "cartoons" or hentai, and nothing in between. Really annoying those types. There is enough variety in anime to satisfy anyone. Want cute little things for the kids? Comedy? Romance? Blood-drenched gore? Seek and ye shall find.  cool

Hell,even among FANS of anime you get arguments over different series or genres. Well,I will say here what I thought of some of the ones mentioned here already.

NGE: never seen it,hate mecha anime in general myself,but will have to see it someday. It has way too much of a reputation to ignore. Controversial too.

Excel Saga: I am in the middle of this series. I like it so far but it gives you a headache sometimes,it is just insane. Good,not great.

Witch Hunter Robin: Have the first 4 discs, watched it all on AS. I started out loving this but the ending really ticked me off. You all who saw this and said you liked it...why? The plot wobbled like a 3-legged jackrabbit. They just went nowhere!

Hellsing: I adore this,stylish,nicely animated, gore-tastic and some nice characters. It kind of went on a roller-coaster in terms of intensity but this one was great for me.

Rurouni Kenshin: Seen the first two seasons,definitely this is one of the better ones, and the second season is better then the first.

Read or Die: The OVA(think mini-series) was superb,I have not seen the TV series yet. Even though I didn't like some of the villians it worked really well.

Actually I like movies better then series so about half of what I own is movies or OVAs. So I will list some of the better ones here,strictly my opinion of course.

Anything made by Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli: Just for the animation alone will be worth watching at least once. Some of the best in the business. Princess Mononoke,Spirited Away,Castle in the Sky,even My Neighbor Totoro. He has others but you would have to buy imports to see them which is a real shame.

Ghost in the Shell: One of those that will make you think,and has ideas that are related to ones explored in The Matrix. Some good action in there as well.

Voices of a Distant Star: Short,but would be perfect for the shippers here if they have not watched any anime. Not funny but very very emotional. You will cry.

Millenium Actress: As good as any Ghibli movie animation-wise. Think hollywood drama movie in anime form. No cute things, no sweatdrops,crying rivers,just a real drama. Again, you will cry. Just beautiful.

Armitage III: Decently animated, a good story. Very Blade Runner influenced. One of the movies was dubbed by Keifer Sutherland and an American actress I can't recall now.

Akira: This was the first anime I ever saw. I don't reccomend it as a starting point since it turned me off anime for like 10 years. Once you have seen some though,this one has teeth. Can be very confusing though.

Perfect Blue: A movie,Hicthcockian,surreal.
Again, for those who hate the little anime conventions like sweatdrops and such there is none of that to be found. A psychological thriller,which you don't find much in anime so unusual in that regard.

Grave of the Fireflies: I've yet to show this to a non-anime fan and I wonder what their reaction would be. Not hyper,the pace is moderate/slow,nicely animated but this is an older title. An anti-war movie at the very least,it doesn't play games it just shows the consequences of war on two small children. If you have a shippy bone in your body this can shred you. Bring tissues. Lots of tissues.

"Bender,why are those kids following you? Do you have candy stuck to your a$$?" smile
Nurdbot

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« Reply #288 on: 05-16-2004 02:05 »

Margie, not a anime fan saw Grave and she liked it.
David A

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« Reply #289 on: 05-16-2004 02:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Klumsy Kitty:
Needless to say I am an anime fan first and a Futurama fan second.


So am I.  Of course, Futurama does have a lot of anime-like qualities.

 
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NGE: never seen it,hate mecha anime in general myself,but will have to see it someday. It has way too much of a reputation to ignore. Controversial too.

Don't let your dislike for mecha keep you away from NGENGE is not about giant robots.  It seems like it for the first few episodes, but that's just bait-and-switch.  That's not what it's about at all.

 
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Witch Hunter Robin: Have the first 4 discs, watched it all on AS. I started out loving this but the ending really ticked me off. You all who saw this and said you liked it...why? The plot wobbled like a 3-legged jackrabbit. They just went nowhere!

Well, it could have been better, but I still thought that it was a good series.  I liked the characters and the setting enough to overlook the shortcomings in the storyline.

 
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Rurouni Kenshin: Seen the first two seasons,definitely this is one of the better ones, and the second season is better then the first.

Kenshin rocks.  Enough said.

 
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Anything made by Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli: Just for the animation alone will be worth watching at least once. Some of the best in the business. Princess Mononoke,Spirited Away,Castle in the Sky,even My Neighbor Totoro. He has others but you would have to buy imports to see them which is a real shame.


You forgot Kiki's Delivery Service.

 
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Akira: This was the first anime I ever saw. I don't reccomend it as a starting point since it turned me off anime for like 10 years. Once you have seen some though,this one has teeth. Can be very confusing though.

Personally, I wasn't that impressed with Akira.  A lot of people seem to really like it, but it just doesn't do anything for me.  Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad movie, I just don't understand why everyone likes it so much.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
wu_konguk

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« Reply #290 on: 05-16-2004 06:02 »

@David A
Kenshin does indeed rock and so do the three OVA's of it. I partcually like Reflection.

Klumbsy Kitten may have frogotten Kiki but you forgot Naussica, whichj while not as good as the manga's is still awesome. I am however still trying to see My neighbor Totoro and Porco Rosso.

I do love the Akira movie (the manga is far superior). The reason I really liked it was because when I saw it, it was totally different to anything I had seen before. It was not the first anime I ever saw (at least what I knew was anime that was Street fighter 2 the animated movie) but it did really open my eyes to the possiblities of anime
Klumsy Kitty

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« Reply #291 on: 05-16-2004 21:48 »
« Last Edit on: 05-20-2004 00:00 »

Well at the time I saw it(Akira,I had never seen anything remotely like it and the scenes with the giant teddy bears freaked me out. Really, really disturbing. I don't think it comes across as being very good now because it is decidedly dated,but when it first came out it was like Whoa!!! Also I've read plenty of comments saying that the manga just has too much depth for a movie to show it all. Maybe if they did it a la Titanic and made it 3 1/2 hours long...

I didn't forget Kiki but just didn't mention it, it is one of my favorites and is much more like a Disney type movie, only without singing and with a modicum of taste. A good one to break non-anime lovers in with since you can say it is a Disney movie.

Nausicaa I didn't mention, or some of the other ones simply because I have not had the priviledge of seeing it yet.   frown I have been told to avoid the "Warriors of the Wind" travesty so I will have to wait until it hits the U.S. this summer or Fall.

Yeah, that post was getting a bit long so I didn't go into much detail on Kenshin, I haven't seen the 3rd season yet since I am waiting for that boxset to be available,nor Reflections or the Samurai X movie. Trust & Betrayal however was magnificent. Bloody, but magnificent!

Someone mentioned on this thread they wanted to see a review of Original Dirty Pair? I have the two OVA discs so if that is still wanted somebody post it and I will do my best for you all.

Oh, and David A., I am sure I will watch NGE eventually it is just I have this list of anime I want to get that is like a page or two long.... Never enough time.(or money)   no no

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Nurdbot

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« Reply #292 on: 05-17-2004 01:20 »

That was me, review away.
David A

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« Reply #293 on: 05-17-2004 04:46 »

 
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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Klumbsy Kitten may have frogotten Kiki but you forgot Naussica, whichj while not as good as the manga's is still awesome.

I didn't forget Nausicaš.  I chose not to mention it because of the Warriors of the Wind controversy.  Also, Studio Ghibli did not exist yet when Miyazaki made Nausicaš, so it's not a Studio Ghibli film.
wu_konguk

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« Reply #294 on: 05-17-2004 08:35 »
« Last Edit on: 05-17-2004 08:35 »

Well I did not know that. Well that shut me up.

Incidently what is the Warriors of the wind? I assume it's an off shute from Naussicca. In fact it sounds like a dodgey Disney sequal.

Never mind that I just looked it up. Warriors of wind is justa a Synnonim (spelling?) for Naussica of the Valley of wind. Howeverit does sound like the American name for the film. I saw the sub and I did not think it was that bad, it is not as good as the manga but it was alight.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #295 on: 05-17-2004 08:58 »
« Last Edit on: 05-17-2004 08:58 »

Am shopping around on ebay and need to know your thoughts and views on :

Cowboy Bebop : complete series

Full Metal Panic

Are they any good? My budget is tight and I will get one of these today....
Klumsy Kitty

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« Reply #296 on: 05-17-2004 20:26 »

I don't have anything to say about Full Metal Panic since I have not seen it; it does seem to have some fans and I have not met any serious detractors. I am guessing it is a average show.

I do have Cowboy Bebop and I like it a lot;it is very episodic and the music is fabulous,and very varied. The animation is good and very fluid,you will want to check out the very fine mixing of regular and CG animation. It is only one season and one movie so it won't take you forever to see all of it. One caveat though is you may not be able to find it in box form. When I went to get it the whole series was not available as one set,it may be available that way now. Lots of variety in the stories with several plot lines they keep following throughout the series. It can get a bit weird, but not Excel weird. Hard to find something to comare it to but I have been told that Outlaw Star is a B-grade version of Bebop if that helps.

Nurdbot: Ok, give me a few days on that ODP review.  wink

"Bender,why are those kids following you? Do you have candy stuck to your a$$?" smile
Nurdbot

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« Reply #297 on: 05-18-2004 01:49 »

Bebop and Trigun are the best.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #298 on: 05-18-2004 03:20 »
« Last Edit on: 05-18-2004 03:20 »

I got Bebop in the end.

@K.Kitty, it does come in a boxset now as I won the complete series off of ebay last night.
I have seen the Bebop movie on there as well but I think I'll wait until I've seen the series before purchasing that one   wink

Trigun you say Nurdbot? I'm not sure as I'm still saving for the boxset of Evangelion as it seems to be the definitive anime to get hold of.
I can't wait, I've been purposely not reading anything as soon as I see the word Evangelion so I can honestly say I haven't got a clue what its about aside something about mechs etc...
Nurdbot

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« Reply #299 on: 05-18-2004 06:16 »

nerdy: Get it as soon as you get Eva, and then FLCL.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #300 on: 05-18-2004 06:24 »

I heard FLCL isn't all that. (But who am I to judge - I haven't seen it) I would still like to see Full Metal Panic so I will have to toss a coin when it comes to that.

In the mean time I have Najica vol.1 on order so apart from the obligitory fan service, is it good? The blurb sounded pretty cool - James bond with breasts and panties....
EvilLunch

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« Reply #301 on: 05-18-2004 19:25 »
« Last Edit on: 05-18-2004 19:25 »

You bought Najica instead of FLCL? Listen, I'm not saying anything bad about Najica, but I mean.. That action is to 'anime' what buying Eastenders instead of Monty Python is to 'BBC'. It's just.. come on. You gotta get down with the Furi. AND the Kuri.
Porco Rosso: KICKS ASS. Disney's releasing it soon and you all need to buy it proper. WWII flying ace gets turned into an anthropomorphic pig. That aside, it's a drama! And it's humor rarely lies in the protagonist's porcine appearance[Most notably in the part with the crowd of little girls]. Other Ghibli flicks you've probably never heard of that are well worth finding are PomPoko and Whipsers of the Heart[and its 'sort-of-sequel' The Cat Returns, which you can watch without having seen Whispers].
On a not-anime-but-Japanese note, go find a 'Ju-On' DVD. Not Ju-On II, not the Ju-On theatrical movie and DEFINITELY steer clear of American Remake-to-be 'The Grudge'. Just.. Find Ju-On. A TV movie with no budget. Pop it in, turn off the lights. Close the drapes. And don't blink.
Klumsy Kitty

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« Reply #302 on: 05-18-2004 23:15 »
« Last Edit on: 05-20-2004 00:00 »

I've only seen a few episodes of FLCL but I have to agree, I liked what I saw. Definitely "out there" though.   roll eyes FLCL is very short though, like 6 episodes total right EvilLunch?

Also, not saying you bought a bootleg for sure nerdlingus but there was only one legitimate box set on Bebop that I know of, the one that came with the bonus Original Soundtrack CDs. You can tell the difference by the number of discs in the set,the bootlegs have less then the six + soundtrack discs the legit set does. Still, I am not saying you should not have bought it,they really should offer that as a set by now, it is a few years old. Either way enjoy,I'd like to know which episodes you liked the most when you get done.   smile

"Bender,why are those kids following you? Do you have candy stuck to your a$$?" smile
nerdlingus

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« Reply #303 on: 05-19-2004 06:56 »
« Last Edit on: 05-19-2004 06:56 »

Shit!! If I knew about the bootlegs I wouldn't have got it, I'll let you know when it comes through 'cos I ain't having any pirated shit.

Thanks for the info.    smile

As for FLCL, I'll take everyones word for it but I was also told Ghost in the Shell was good but it bored me half to death.
I shall check them all out eventually though.
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #304 on: 05-19-2004 13:34 »
« Last Edit on: 05-19-2004 13:34 »

I suggest clicking this before saying you won't get FLCL.
 http://fate.enhasa.org/justthenorm/oneLife.htm

(MP3 BGM may take a while on dial-up)
Mr.Nintendo

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« Reply #305 on: 05-19-2004 14:10 »

What is everyones opinion on the Shadow Skill series? I bought it on DVD a while ago and i liked it a lot. It seems like a classic example of shoenen anime, the whole story is set around the idea of honour and dignity in fighting, and bizarrely that it brings us closer to God or something.
David A

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« Reply #306 on: 05-19-2004 18:46 »

 
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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Incidently what is the Warriors of the wind? I assume it's an off shute from Naussicca. In fact it sounds like a dodgey Disney sequal.

Never mind that I just looked it up. Warriors of wind is justa a Synnonim (spelling?) for Naussica of the Valley of wind.

Not quite.  Warriors of the Wind was a badly-edited dub version of Nausicaš which was made without Miyazaki's knowledge or consent.  When he saw what had been done to his creation, Miyazaki was so upset that he asked those who had seen Warriors of the Wind to dismiss it from their minds.

You can read more about it here.

 
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Originally posted by Klumsy Kitty:
Hard to find something to comare it to but I have been told that Outlaw Star is a B-grade version of Bebop if that helps.

Do me a favor.  Punch whoever told you that, and tell them it's from me.

I am really sick of hearing people compare Cowboy Bebop to Outlaw Star.  Aside from the fact that they're both anime and both sci-fi, they're not that similar.

Besides, Outlaw Star is better than Bebop.

 
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Originally posted by nerdlingus:
I've been purposely not reading anything as soon as I see the word Evangelion so I can honestly say I haven't got a clue what its about aside something about mechs etc...

Eva is not about mechs...

 
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Originally posted by Klumsy Kitty:
FLCL is very short though, like 6 episodes total right EvilLunch?

Yeah, FLCL is only six episodes long, but they manage to fit a lot into those six episodes.  It's a good series, despite being very short.
wu_konguk

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« Reply #307 on: 05-19-2004 19:04 »

@ David A
Oh my god. God damn Americans. Why do they feel it is nessassary to dumb everything down. The majority of americans are nto as stupid as they think.

Well thankfully fan back lash is causing less and less editing (apart from the nudity and the blood).

On FLCL. I just finished reading the manga's. They are quite different from the anime. For example Haruka is not a space pirate. It even ends differntly. Well that's Gainax for you, always changing their minds on how things should end.
David A

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« Reply #308 on: 05-19-2004 20:09 »

 
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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
@ David A
Oh my god. God damn Americans. Why do they feel it is nessassary to dumb everything down. The majority of americans are nto as stupid as they think.

Well thankfully fan back lash is causing less and less editing (apart from the nudity and the blood).

Well, keep in mind that this was back in 1984.  We're talking before Robotech here.  At the time there really wasn't any market for animated films that weren't kiddie movies.

Now, I agree that what New World Pictures did was wrong; but realize that an uncut version of Nausicaš of the Valley of Wind would probably not have been released at all, at the time.  The current American view of anime is very different from the view at the time when New World Pictures released Warriors of the Wind.

Now you know why I didn't want to bring up Nausicaš in the first place.

 
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On FLCL. I just finished reading the manga's. They are quite different from the anime. For example Haruka is not a space pirate. It even ends differntly. Well that's Gainax for you, always changing their minds on how things should end.

Heh.  It's not really changing their minds, they just like to give you a choice of endings.

I've heard that the FLCL manga are good.  Maybe I'll have to give them a read sometime.
3/4 of a Jesus

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« Reply #309 on: 05-19-2004 20:26 »

My life has meaning!  big grin
Today I received the Trigun soundtrack. I love it more than I love chocolate, and that's a hell of a lot. My favorites are the title theme, Bluff, Cynical Pink, and The Wind Blows Towards the Future  love
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« Reply #310 on: 05-20-2004 00:20 »

Sorry to trod on your corns David A, I was only repeating something I heard from others. Now that I think of it I HAVE seen one episode of Outlaw Star and I liked what I saw. Actually I am ordering that boxset by this weekend so I will be better informed real soon now. For now though,can't we just say they are different but equal? I really liked Bebop a lot.   smile That psycho cat woman in OS though... can't wait!  big grin

Have not heard anything on Shadow Skill or seen it myself, sorry Mr. Nintendo.  frown

So David A, how would you say Nausicaa stands up against Miyazaki's other works? Say Spirited Away/Mononoke Hime/Castle in the Sky/Kiki? It is rather hard to get a chance to see it here in the U.S.,I am wondering if Disney's release of it will give it a boost. I've been waiting to see this for a long time.  hmpf

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« Reply #311 on: 05-20-2004 01:33 »

 
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Sorry to trod on your corns David A, I was only repeating something I heard from others.

I know.  That's why I asked you to pass along my message to those others.  Don't worry, I'm not mad at you.

 
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Now that I think of it I HAVE seen one episode of Outlaw Star and I liked what I saw. Actually I am ordering that boxset by this weekend so I will be better informed real soon now. For now though,can't we just say they are different but equal?

Fine by me.  I'd rather if people didn't compare them at all.  They're like apples and oranges.

 
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I really liked Bebop a lot.    smile

So did I.  Bebop is great, but Outlaw Star is one of my all-time favorites.

 
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That psycho cat woman in OS though... can't wait!   big grin


You dare to call Aisha Clan Clan of the Ctarl Ctarl Empire psycho?!?

Well, just don't call her an animal.  She hates that.

And don't call her late for dinner, either.  She hates that even more.   tongue

 
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So David A, how would you say Nausicaa stands up against Miyazaki's other works? Say Spirited Away/Mononoke Hime/Castle in the Sky/Kiki?

I dunno.  I haven't seen the Miyazaki approved translation yet.  Once I've seen it, I'll let you know.

 
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It is rather hard to get a chance to see it here in the U.S.,I am wondering if Disney's release of it will give it a boost. I've been waiting to see this for a long time.   hmpf

Not as long as I've been waiting.
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« Reply #312 on: 05-20-2004 18:11 »

Nausicaa is often regarded as one of the most beloved anime women in Japan. Her status is probably comparable to Cinderella or Snow White over here. Just a classic character most children know, an ideal.
I just got Knights of Ramune today. NOT A CLASSIC. That said, fun to watch, especially if you like boobies and butts. And THAT said, I haven't seen the end yet, but it better redeem itself. Sure, the good guys are women who have the Holy Power of Virgins and champion the power of love, but the bad guy likes to kick around his female cronies[I DO mean kick around] and it seems like the anime has too fun a time showing half naked women being tortured.
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« Reply #313 on: 05-20-2004 21:45 »

Ok, I have watched the ODP OVA again, so here is my review of it...

ORIGINAL DIRTY PAIR (OVA)

This set is 2 DVDs in the format I purchased; there are 5 episodes on each disc,plus a few extras,the usual sort of thing.

These ten episodes are very much like a run of Cowboy Bebop, in that they have almost no continuity between episodes;each one is a self contained story. The episodes vary in quality of story much like Futurama;none are really bad but some are better then others. Also with a variety of stories I doubt two people would enjoy the same ones equally. Your own taste is going to count for a lot here.

The animation itself is dated;this is an older series. It is pretty clean and simple however,it just won't wow you in any way. It does the job.

The two main characters are Kei & Yuri,who are agents of a galactic level "trouble shooting" type organisation, so the plots tend to deal with James Bond type stories. Kei & Yuri get sent to investigate problems and find creative (and destructive!!) solutions.

Some episodes are slanted more towards humor, and there is usually at least some good banter going on between the two characters. Sometimes it is hard to take them seriously  as they do wear rather skimpy outfits and have a tendancy to act girly at times. Despite that the two of them do as much damage as your average artilery barrage at the drop of a hat so they are not weak sisters at all!

There is some mature content in the set so you might want to watch this first before you hand it over to a younger teenager. For one thing there can be quite a bit of violence and killing,although I don't recall it being overly gory or bloody.

It is a good mix of action & comedy,and some of the individual stories are very interesting. I won't go into specifics(don't want to spoil it for you), but they do some interesting takes on religion, drug use,and other topics. Some serious themes mixed in with the lighter stuff. It is very entertaining if you like action or spy spoofs, I would give it an A-; if it were more up to date visually and had a more varied soundtrack it would do better. If any of you have specific questions about it let me know, I'll be glad to help answer them.

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Sweetmelly

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« Reply #314 on: 05-23-2004 07:21 »

Ghost in the Shell is one of the greatest anime classics in movie history and therefore it was interesting to read that there is now a sequel:

"Innocence" by Mamoru Oshii

© ARIEL BARKAN
 
 In addition to Shrek 2 that screened early in the Festival, the second animated feature in competition is presented today, Innocence by Mamoru Oshii. The Japanese director spent nine years making this follow-up to his cult hit Ghost in the Shell. The characters are the same but the political tone has given way to a philosophical one, a hymn to life. Furthermore, the technical rendering is much more formal, mixing 2D, 3D and computer graphics.

It is the year 2032 and the line between humans and machines has been blurred almost beyond distinction. Humans have forgotten that they are human and those that are left coexist with cyborgs (human spirits inhabiting entirely mechanized bodies). Batou is one of them. His body is artificial: the only remnants left of his humanity are traces of his brain Ė and the memories of a woman called The Major. He is investigating a murder case involving malfunctioning androids that went berserk.

Mamoru Oshii on his intentions: "This movie does not hold the view that the world revolves around the human race. Instead it concludes that all forms of life Ė humans, animals and robots Ė are equal. In this day and age when everything is uncertain, we should all think about what to value in life and how to coexist with others."

source: www.festival-cannes.fr
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« Reply #315 on: 05-23-2004 08:06 »
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You know what? I'm gonna list the anime show's I've seen, and try to give something of my opinion of them. All four of them.

Neon Genensis Evangelion Yes, like everyone else, I've seen this (because it aired on SBS a few years back). It ever so slightly crushed my soul. I hated how the last two eps sorta... um... ran out of... everything. Also, I wish Shinji choke on his own bile. Other then that, pretty good. The only thing on TV that year that disturbed me! NB: I haven't seen the movies, so I don't know the proper ending.

Castle of Cagliostro Er, saw it, but can't remember much. I know it's also one of the more famous ones, and is part of a series of three (and also based on a manga, like 90% of anime). Alas, I can't remember anything particularly noteworthy, so my experience with it isn't terribly positive.

Ghost in the Shell Cool. Violent. Smart. Sci-fi. I like.

Blood: the last vampire Didn't like. NO plot. Okay action, but not enough substance for me to have glean much enjoyment from it.

I keep missing Akira on TV... and usually regret it.

I also intend to see Cowboy Bepop one of these days (I hear good things... and it has Jazz, too. Awesome) and Ninja Scroll (it has a lot of blood, gushing like busted plumbing. Hooray! )
Klumsy Kitty

Bending Unit
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« Reply #316 on: 05-23-2004 15:13 »

No way SJM,not everybody has seen NGE,it depends on if your friends who introduced you to anime liked it or not. My friends were huge Gundam fans and they got so obnoxious about that stuff that I have avoided almost all mecha shows since. Patlabor is ok though.  roll eyes

Just to clear something up, Cagliostro is NOT part of a series. Well, it is one of the Lupin the 3rd movies but there is no continuity between the shows other then the characters. The Lupin franchise has been through so many hands that it varies quite a bit even in the characterisation. Castle of Cagliostro gets mentioned a lot because it is one of Miyazaki's first directoral efforts. You know, that Spirited Away,Princess Mononoke guy.  roll eyes It is one of the better Lupin movies though, I am a fan of that series. 

You are so right, Blood is long on action, short on almost everything else. A pity that. If you are serious about those two shows you are interested in seeing,by al means see Bebop first!!! Ninja Scroll is okay but gory, Bebop outclasses it completely.

"Bender,why are those kids following you? Do you have candy stuck to your a$$?" smile
Nurdbot

DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #317 on: 05-23-2004 15:41 »

Pfft Blood, I rate anime with nudity, panties and crude sex jokes.
David A

Urban Legend
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« Reply #318 on: 05-24-2004 03:34 »

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
I keep missing Akira on TV... and usually regret it.

Meh.  Akira is overrated anyway.

 
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I also intend to see Cowboy Bepop one of these days (I hear good things... and it has Jazz, too. Awesome)

If you like anime and jazz, you should also watch Blue Submarine No. 6.

 
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and Ninja Scroll (it has a lot of blood, gushing like busted plumbing. Hooray! )

Ninja Scroll is pretty bloody, but there's more to it than that.  There's an actual story underneath all the blood.  It's based on a Japanese legend.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #319 on: 05-24-2004 06:23 »

Cowboy Bebop rocks.

I haven't seen all the episodes yet but I'm betting that by the end of the week.
Very funky soundtrack too and Spike, suave bastard ain't he!

"Its like water..."
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