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Nurdbot

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« Reply #120 on: 02-19-2004 01:14 »

In the UK, it's not. CNX, which did Adult Swim has changed into Toonami and now just shows complete crap. I still remember CNX, with Sealab, Home Movies and Uncut Bebop.
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« Reply #121 on: 02-19-2004 01:18 »

Re: a bunch of stuff David A said:

The Big O is alright, and I stand by my original statements. Before it gets to the giant mecha battles, it's pretty interesting. However, most of the mecha fights are pretty predictable and oftentimes take away from the plot.

As for WH:R, I think the third episode was much better than the first and second. Tonight's episode was more "X-Files-y" (which is a good thing). It's odd, though...I think it would be interesting if the show was an hour long instead of 30 min. I usually watch about 6 episodes of a show before I choose to stick with it. I think I'll give Robin the  benefit of the doubt for now.

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« Reply #122 on: 02-19-2004 02:20 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
Re: a bunch of stuff David A said:

The Big O is alright, and I stand by my original statements. Before it gets to the giant mecha battles, it's pretty interesting. However, most of the mecha fights are pretty predictable and oftentimes take away from the plot.

The same things could be said about NGE.  Just an observation.

 
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As for WH:R, I think the third episode was much better than the first and second. Tonight's episode was more "X-Files-y" (which is a good thing). It's odd, though...I think it would be interesting if the show was an hour long instead of 30 min. I usually watch about 6 episodes of a show before I choose to stick with it. I think I'll give Robin the  benefit of the doubt for now.

I liked the third episode as well.  I'm definitely going to keep watching this series.

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« Reply #123 on: 02-19-2004 17:56 »

Well,not every Evangelion episode had a giant mecha fight to conclude it. Even still, when there was said fight, it was one government organization versus another "organization," not The Big O's "every private individual has a mecha to destroy the city" line of reasoning. Although, I have read ahead, and I do know there should only be 3 major Megadueces in the series. I'm fine with that. But not every episode has to end the same way. Sometimes, I just want Roger Smith to investigate and shoot the guy.
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« Reply #124 on: 02-19-2004 19:01 »

Well I've been watching Naruto and have finished the first 49 episodes. To say the least, this is one awesome series. The animation is really good and the fight sceens are brilliant.
Thing is, considering how many Manga's there are. This may become the length of DBZ, mind the fights genrally do not last more than 3 or 4 episodes, which is good.
Now I really need to get the next few episodes, 49 ended so cooly I want to see the next one.

Give a few days and I'll give a full review of Full Metal Panic.
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« Reply #125 on: 02-20-2004 01:09 »

Grah, Even animes do Clip shows. Excel Saga apparently learned the habbit from Simpsons.
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« Reply #126 on: 02-20-2004 01:13 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
Well,not every Evangelion episode had a giant mecha fight to conclude it. Even still, when there was said fight, it was one government organization versus another "organization," not The Big O's "every private individual has a mecha to destroy the city" line of reasoning. Although, I have read ahead, and I do know there should only be 3 major Megadueces in the series. I'm fine with that. But not every episode has to end the same way.

Well, aside from the three Bigs, most of the mecha in season two are either from the Union (the "foreigners" from episode 10) or from Paradigm.  So, there's your organizations, if you want them.  Also, not every episode in season two ends with a mecha fight.

 
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Sometimes, I just want Roger Smith to investigate and shoot the guy.

Well, he doesn't carry a gun, so obviously that never happens.  He does get to punch people a few times though.

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« Reply #127 on: 02-20-2004 02:08 »

Anime that does not do a clip show:  Noir.

What they do to make up for it: LAME!

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« Reply #128 on: 02-20-2004 06:39 »

Pitt. I think how Gendo puts it, sums up the reason for your question.
Gendo: "Mans greatest enemy is man himself"
Or put another way

Oh and Nudy. All most all anime I have seen has at least one episode that is made up from the previous episodes. The joke in Excel saga was based on anime not the Simpsons, I'm pretty sure they even said as much. The only anime that springs to mind that does not do this is Cowboy Bebop (I'm sure there are others but this is one that comes straight to mind).
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« Reply #129 on: 02-20-2004 15:47 »

I've seen the Clip Show, it was okay due to the fact I missed the first episode and some amusing jokes were fitted in. I just shudder and think of the Simpsons when Clip shows loom into view.
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« Reply #130 on: 02-21-2004 04:15 »

Nadesico had a prety cool clip show.  Gekiganker watched Nadesco, instead of Nadesico watching Gekiganker.
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« Reply #131 on: 02-21-2004 04:33 »

Pitt, you mentioned Futurama references in Excel?
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« Reply #132 on: 02-21-2004 13:59 »
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Well, it's not a reference per se.  In Excel saga, there is a character who shows up in the Pedro plot arc.  At first he's nothing special, and then he returns to become VERY important, so much so that the fate of the universe may come down to him and Pedro.  The character is "That guy."  His presence is wonderful glorious proof that Nabeshin was just making shit up as he went along.

There are a few american animation/movie refrences in XL-saga but the only one that comes to me at the moment are the powerpuff girls.
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« Reply #133 on: 02-23-2004 15:07 »

As was promised.
Full Metal Panic



Now I must say this is a strange anime (mind you not alwys in a good way). I say this because of how it is presented. When I first began watchign I thought it was going to be a serious mecha anime (a la Gasaraki) and for part it was until the introduction of the female lead Kaname Chidori. Then the show becomes different with lots and lots of fan service.

The series seems to be trying to mix alot of genre's together. The militarary, romance, ecchi (basically means slightly perverted), school drama, mecha and a bit of sci fi. To be honest some of it does not seem to gel well and sometimes the characters do not seem to react as you would expect them to in some of the situations.

I give it to the series that it did have some good moments. Some of the humour was good and the animation is superb.

The major porblem I have with the series is characterisation or lack there of. The do characterise the two main character abit (Segent Segara and Chidori) but the more interestign characters are hardley given any back story at all.

I do think some people here will like this quite abit due to it's military leanings and general perverseness.

All in all it's good just not great.
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« Reply #134 on: 02-23-2004 16:46 »

Oooh, sounds nice.
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« Reply #135 on: 02-26-2004 01:28 »

I've always found anime Christmas specials to be really, really akward and goofy. I mention this out of season because I just saw the X-Mas episode of The Big O. Definately groan-worthy.

As for my conversation with David A from before, I think I'm going to keep on watching Witch Hunter Robin. I know most of the people in this thread aren't from the States, but those that are, I recommend checking it out. It's still "relatively" early in the show (episode 6), and I'm sure you can 'procure' the other episodes somewehre.
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« Reply #136 on: 02-26-2004 02:10 »

 
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I've always found anime Christmas specials to be really, really akward and goofy. I mention this out of season because I just saw the X-Mas episode of The Big O. Definately groan-worthy.

Oh, come on.  It's a giant robot fighting a giant Christmas tree.  What's not to like about that?   tongue

 
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As for my conversation with David A from before, I think I'm going to keep on watching Witch Hunter Robin. I know most of the people in this thread aren't from the States, but those that are, I recommend checking it out. It's still "relatively" early in the show (episode 6), and I'm sure you can 'procure' the other episodes somewehre.

I'm really digging this show too.  Great stuff.

One thing about it really bothers me though: that strand of hair that falls between Robin's eyes.  I want to reach over and push her hair out of her face, but I can't, because she's a cartoon.

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« Reply #137 on: 02-26-2004 18:22 »

Okay, I'm curious about Anime. Recommend me some.

Right now, I've watched Ghost in the Shell and a couple of episodes of Bubblegum Crisis (GitS was pretty good, wasn't overly impressed with BC). I'm reading through Akira and intend to watch the film once I've read the whole comic. Neon Genesis Evangelion has piqued my interest so I'm ordering some episodes from that, but is there anything else I should check out?
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« Reply #138 on: 02-27-2004 00:39 »

All four Tenchi series?
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« Reply #139 on: 02-27-2004 01:51 »

 
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Neon Genesis Evangelion has piqued my interest so I'm ordering some episodes from that

After watching all of NGE (including movies), you'll probably feel for an hour what Scott Wieland feels like every second of every day.
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« Reply #140 on: 02-27-2004 08:55 »

 
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Okay, I'm curious about Anime. Recommend me some.

Princess Mononoke is really good.  In fact, I'd recommend anything by Hayao Miyazaki.

If you liked Ghost in the Shell, you might like Dominion.  The anime isn't as good as the manga, but it's still worth watching.

Also, I agree with Nurdy.  Tenchi Muyo! is great, and so are all of the related movies and spin-offs.

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« Reply #141 on: 02-27-2004 10:42 »

Grave of the Fireflies is good, if you want some dramatic and depressing stuff.

Man, Sci Fi UK suck. They couldn't afford to buy the rights to the remaining 5 episodes of Excel Saga. And Roppenmatsu 2 cuteness is like radiation.
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« Reply #142 on: 02-27-2004 11:48 »
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Roppanmatsu2: I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!
[Rapes Excel]

Excel :[disrobes] I'll bring you back Hayatt.
(Re-animation in progress)

Pedro: That was Damn good, Itz-san!

Hmmmm, what was the best Excel saga sex scene?
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« Reply #143 on: 02-27-2004 12:30 »

 
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 After watching all of NGE (including movies), you'll probably feel for an hour what Scott Wieland feels like every second of every day.

Absolutely great.   big grin
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« Reply #144 on: 02-27-2004 15:04 »

 
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Roppanmatsu2: I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!
[Rapes Excel]

Excel :[disrobes] I'll bring you back Hayatt.
(Re-animation in progress)

Pedro: That was Damn good, Itz-san!

Hmmmm, what was the best Excel saga sex scene?
Roppanmatsu2 and Excel. I love the little comment at the end by Excel.

Also:
Iwata in his post Roppanmatsu1 stage is the most annoying thing in anime, he somehow reminds me of those psychotic fanboys/girls that scare the crap out of the Japanese voice actors in conventions. How can Iwata smack such a cute thing? I surprised Wantanabe let that slide when Iwata has an ego trip. Still, I laugh at his horror after challenging R2 to and I quote: 'Chew Peanuts with her eyes and eat Spaghetti with her nose'.

And can you explain the joke with R1 and 2's creator, that Scientist bloke always carrying a little girl with him.


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« Reply #145 on: 02-28-2004 02:33 »
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And can you explain the joke with R1 and 2's creator, that Scientist bloke always carrying a little girl with him.

I can explain, but not without attracting attention from the FBI. Just wait until the last episode, until then, just try to think of him as Professor Utonium.


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« Reply #146 on: 02-28-2004 02:40 »

Ah, problem. I can't see the new episode. E-mail me it.
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« Reply #147 on: 02-28-2004 03:04 »

AHAHAHAHA!

I have no Idea what you're talking about.  Also, On a completely different and true note, my hard drive was re-imaged by CompUSA buffons in the last two months.

Although I can't imagine why I brought that up.

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« Reply #148 on: 02-28-2004 03:05 »

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Yeah...We need some hot anime babe pictures now..
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« Reply #149 on: 02-28-2004 19:26 »

Couldn't agree more!

D'OH!
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« Reply #150 on: 02-28-2004 20:32 »

In my opinion, i think that the whole anime phenonom is very confusing. Every time I turn i my television to cartoon network, there is some man with big eyes and odd hair journeying into a plot that no one seems to understand. The whole craze is inconceivable to me. 
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« Reply #151 on: 02-28-2004 20:37 »

Welcome to PEEL, peter griff!
I basically agree with everything you said. I'd like to see where the whole anime craze ends up.
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« Reply #152 on: 02-29-2004 00:54 »

Yeah, but we all know Cartoon Network is run by bastard people in Marketing who put a dollar sign on everything.

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« Reply #153 on: 03-02-2004 01:26 »
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Gorky, I don't think it's a "craze," per se. Anime's been around a lot longer than you have. If you're talking about the anime-ization of "American cartoons," well, the only example I can think of is Teen Titans.

Well, episode 14 of "The Big O" was quite a weird/not that great episode. To me, it seemed much like a place-holder episode. The "hero has hallucinations of another world in order to find out what he's fighting for" is just played out, to me. I think, most of the time, that personal revelation can be done through non-dream sequence ways.
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« Reply #154 on: 03-02-2004 15:57 »

Well you always woat for one for ages then three come at once.

In other words time for some more reviews.

Blue Submarine 6


I will not be telling you what this anime is about in this review as I feel the plot needs to be see to be appricated. The plot is a very interesting one that does raise some good questions.

Let's see. Well the animation is amazing. The 3D CG has been well mixed with the 2D cell work. The water effects are brilliant. I did feel that some of the character designs seemed abit off but otherwise it was good. The music fits well to the piece and is very pleasent to listen to.

This is one of those animes you have to see. After all the Wakoski (spelling) brothers thought the director did a good enough job.

A

Golden Boy


Well if you can see the image above then it goes without saying what type of anime this is. If you can't, well the Japanese called it Echii which losely translated means perverted i.e this has alot of cleavage shots and panty shots. Never the less this is one of the funnier animes I have seen in a while (especially if you look at what I watched after it).

The six episode series follow the wandering student Kintaro Oe as he travels from job to job trying to gain more and more knowledge. Now Kintaro does come off as your typical anime pervert but you do realise that he is a good guy and extremly intelligent (although his "upper" brain sometimes gives way to lower organs" ).

This is fairly old so I was not expecting much from the animation or from the music. This anime really makes up for it, in the fact that it is very funny.

If you can watch this anime.

B+

Witch Hunter Robin


Well just finished watching this show and I will admit it is very good. Basically there are still witchs roaming around and societies have been set up to hunt them down. These societies employ their own witchs to hunt down the others. Robin is one of these Hunters. She is a 15 year old year with pyrokinetic abilities.

Let's get a few things out of the way. As with most contempory animes the animation is stunning. It appears they have incorpirated texture maps used by programs like photoshop. The music is interesting, at times I felt it sounded liek the Harry Potter main theme and at others the theme to Metal Gear solid.

The style of the show is quite similar to the X-Files. It's pace can seem quite slow and the conspirices slowley seep out. It is well worth watching it all the way through. One thing that might help with it's appeal to some people is tat like Cowboy Bebop this show does not use cliche anime moments (eg popping eyes, weird facial expressions).

All in all a fairly sombering experience but still a very pleasent oen.

A

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« Reply #155 on: 03-02-2004 16:16 »

Oh! Oh! Review the original Dirty Pair!
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« Reply #156 on: 03-02-2004 16:19 »

Oh oh. I would but i have not seen it. Instead I will watch MaharoMatic and RahXephon, then review them.
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« Reply #157 on: 03-02-2004 16:28 »

 
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Every time I turn i my television to cartoon network, there is some man with big eyes and odd hair journeying into a plot that no one seems to understand.

Is it Fry?

 
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This is one of those animes you have to see. After all the Wakoski (spelling) brothers thought the director did a good enough job.

That's not how you recommend Blue Submarine No. 6 to others, this is how you recommend Blue Submarine No. 6 to others:

This anime is based on an old manga by Osamu Tezuka, the creator of Astro Boy, the man sometimes called "the father of anime".

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« Reply #158 on: 03-02-2004 16:43 »

Oh I agree. The Wakoski's suck ass but it might help the deluded masses see the light. when they realise that most anime is far superior to the Matrix.
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« Reply #159 on: 03-02-2004 16:48 »

Yeah, I just felt compelled to mention Tezuka-sensei, since you hadn't.  wink
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