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PEE Poll: Violence on TV?
Yes   -2 (6.9%)
No   -27 (93.1%)
Total Voters: 28

Carbito

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« on: 09-07-2003 00:15 »
« Last Edit on: 09-13-2003 00:00 »

Do you think that there is too much violence on TV?
OC_James

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« Reply #1 on: 09-07-2003 00:16 »

No, if anything we need more violence. And no, I'm not being sarcastic.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #2 on: 09-07-2003 00:28 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2003 00:28 »

Yeah, Realistic Hard hitting Violence.
Saving Private ryan is a good example.
That way, Peoples lusts a pandered for, and Idiots will finally realise the reality of Violence.

I fucking Hate prudes who Think theres too much violence on TV Religious Types mostley but Were for the war and For censoring the Images.
winna

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« Reply #3 on: 09-07-2003 00:38 »

Where the hell is my roman colleseum show!
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« Reply #4 on: 09-07-2003 00:46 »

Crap--I almost put yes since I just read the topic and assumed it meant if I LIKE violence on TV or not. Luckily I caught myself.
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« Reply #5 on: 09-07-2003 01:11 »

That thar' sex should be what your looking out for.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #6 on: 09-07-2003 02:16 »

Does anyone else remember Elmira's "More Violets on TV" segemnt on the "Friday Afternoon Live" episode of Tiny Toons?

Because that's what I think of when I see this thread.
Tweek

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« Reply #7 on: 09-07-2003 06:05 »

I don't think there is too much, if I don't like a programme there are other channels for me to watch.
Cube_166

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« Reply #8 on: 09-07-2003 06:47 »

No. I'm head of a group petitioning for more violence on TV. Let us rise up and take the TV world by force, or something.
Lt. Kroker

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« Reply #9 on: 09-07-2003 07:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
Does anyone else remember Elmira's "More Violets on TV" segemnt on the "Friday Afternoon Live" episode of Tiny Toons?

Because that's what I think of when I see this thread.

Yes! And me too. Anyway, no, it's just plain ridiculous blaming TV shows for problems.
aslate

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« Reply #10 on: 09-07-2003 07:57 »

What is it with people and thinking there is too much violence and that it affects kid's growing up, turning them into super killing machines with no sense of right or wrong?
Ozor Mox

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« Reply #11 on: 09-07-2003 08:50 »

 
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Originally posted by aslate:
What is it with people and thinking there is too much violence and that it affects kid's growing up, turning them into super killing machines with no sense of right or wrong?

And it's not just TV either, they are trying to ruin our enjoyment of brilliant computer games like GTA as well. My parents almost stopped me getting Vice City because some dipstick at Game told them it had masses of violence and nudity and prostitutes etc. etc. Also I'm 17 which made that even more stupid because I'm not unable to tell the difference between reality and a computer game...   mad

When I read in the paper about how TV and computer games are going to turn this generation of children into violent criminals who will commit murder because they chewed someone up with a chainsaw in a computer game/saw someone get chewed up with a chainsaw in a film it makes me want to vomit.
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« Reply #12 on: 09-07-2003 09:11 »

TV is fantasy, therefore what you see on it should be about whatever the hell someone wants. In a perfect worl, TV would not affect us the way it really does. You don't want your kids to be "violent" then get rid of the TV. There's not ENOUGH violence- "less reality! More fantasy!"
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #13 on: 09-07-2003 09:19 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2003 09:19 »

Isn't most of the 'too much violence' crowd always complaining, but never really doing anything, anyway?  It seems to me that tv isn't much more violent now, than it was 20, or 30 years ago, maybe a little more graphic, but not much more.  I mean, I watched Wild Wild West, back in the 60's, and there were at least two or three people dying per episode then, usually pretty gruesomely.  I guess maybe part of this has rose up out of the PC attitude that has developed over the last 10-15 years or so.  roll eyes
Speli

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« Reply #14 on: 09-07-2003 09:23 »

 
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Originally posted by winna:
Where the hell is my roman colleseum show!

Hellooooo Unreal Tournament  wink
Ben

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« Reply #15 on: 09-07-2003 09:33 »

When I was a teenager, I was vehemently against the idea that TV, video games and fast food culture were turning youths into desensitised morons.

But now, seeing the teenagers of today, I am beginning to wonder...
Rage Dump

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« Reply #16 on: 09-07-2003 09:48 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2003 09:48 »

We're doing stuff like this in Yr12 media. Without boring you all with the details, we've been tought that no viewer is completly passive, and just takes the info in regardless of what it is. As soon as we started this topic our teacher gave us an example...
He asked whether we thought TV and other media influenced peoples decisions, most of us said yes or sort of, he then asked a person at the front of the class to go outside, look for a knife just outsode the door, and thrust it into their chest.
You know they didn't do it. Don't be a smart-ass   big grin

Which i thought was a funny and effective way of telling us that people aren't effected my the media as much as we think, it is just the easiest to blame, which is why people do so.

 
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Do you think that there is to much violence on TV?
No.
Rover

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« Reply #17 on: 09-07-2003 10:38 »

No of course not. Violence gives the people watching a taste of the real world while still keeping it fictional.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #18 on: 09-07-2003 10:44 »

There is no taste, only reality and fiction.
bankrupt

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« Reply #19 on: 09-07-2003 22:52 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2003 22:52 »

 
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Originally posted by Ozor Mox:
 My parents almost stopped me getting Vice City because some dipstick at Game told them it had masses of violence and nudity and prostitutes etc. etc. Also I'm 17 which made that even more stupid because I'm not unable to tell the difference between reality and a computer game...     mad

GTA does have masses of violence, nudity, and prostitution.  That "dipstick" was doing his job, good for him.  There'd be less chance of games like GTA being targeted with bans if it was kept out of the wrong hands by parents paying attention to what they allow their children to buy.
OC_James

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« Reply #20 on: 09-07-2003 22:57 »

Actually there is no actual nudity in GTA: VC. The closest they come is some girl with her nipples painted like flowers. Plus, that girl isn't exactly what one would call "attractive" in the first place.
And violence can be found in any game. I've seen some E-rated games that I'm surprised weren't rated Teen. It depends on how cute and loveable the characters are and it's hard for a platform game to get a Mature rating. Conker's Bad Fur Day is about the only platform game I've ever seen with a Mature rating. Violence is okay, as long as the guys causing it are cute and fuzzy.
Tdog

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« Reply #21 on: 09-08-2003 03:43 »

No! I think there's to much censorship in tv that's for sure I remember seeing violent gags in the old looney tunes shorts years ago. Daffy gets a gun blast to the face and all that happens is his beak spins around. Most of the more violent gags(ALL THE FUNNIEST STUFF) was yanked out of the best cartoons because prudes complained. and of course when the prudes talk the networks listen. Why is that? because the prudes always seem to have the politicions in their pockets.
Go by the tried and true method: don't like it? change the F'n channel!
Seems to me that the prudes are in control because when these changes happen most people just shrug their shoulders and do nothing to stop it. And that's why we have watered down entertainment.
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« Reply #22 on: 09-08-2003 05:07 »

I don't think there's too much violence on TV. Knowones making you watch it, but if you do watch, knowones making you do it.
Just Chris

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« Reply #23 on: 09-08-2003 22:08 »

I don't think there's a lot of violence. But I think there's not enough acceptance of nudity on TV. I don't know why so many people seem to find it really bad, are they trying to imply that watching too much of it makes you wanna rape someone? People in America see naked women and think 'degrading' but most people don't have a clue that there is an artistic way as well as a perverted, sexual way. There's just too much censorship going on these days, but our morals as a whole in the US are still lower than everyone else's. Maybe we're confusing cause and effect here? Maybe our media is less relevant to our actions than we might think?

I saws a recent news story about some teenagers that shot some people from their car, saying they were just recreating GTA. Here's a rare case where kids actually acted on video games, and the key word is rare. The majority of us aren't stupid to do this. Governors and soccer moms should punish the retarded kids instead of imposing laws on all of us.
OC_James

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« Reply #24 on: 09-08-2003 22:28 »

I think the kids who blamed GTA:VC were just using it as a scapegoat. If the game really inspired the kids ,which I really doubt, to do what they did, then I'm amazed they were intelligent enough to even use a PS2 controller. These kids are either stupid or irresponsible and they make the rest of hardcore gamers look bad. Mainstream society has no problem with "casual gamers" but hardcore gamers are often considered nerds, psychos, or losers. It's really pathetic how judgemental our society is.
Plus, I read on GameSpy or some other video game website that the guns and ammo they used were purchased legally. I could go on a looooong rant about this but this Penny Arcade comic puts it perfectly:
K-Mart: Saving Lives
Nixorbo

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« Reply #25 on: 09-08-2003 22:52 »

If anything, there needs to be more parenting in the house in front of the TV.
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« Reply #26 on: 09-08-2003 23:02 »

Maybe in front of your TV.  My dad went into a thirty minute fit of giggles when he was watching a Dateline story about when Botox goes wrong.
bankrupt

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« Reply #27 on: 09-08-2003 23:05 »

 
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Originally posted by Just Chris:

I saws a recent news story about some teenagers that shot some people from their car, saying they were just recreating GTA. Here's a rare case where kids actually acted on video games, and the key word is rare. The majority of us aren't stupid to do this. Governors and soccer moms should punish the retarded kids instead of imposing laws on all of us.

I'm sure these kids never heard of a drive-by before they played GTA.  What a load.

TheMadCapper

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« Reply #28 on: 09-08-2003 23:20 »

It bugs me when people expose their children to this stuff at young ages. Taking your 17 year old to R-films... fine. Taking your 9 year old to them... not fine.

Really, the stuff that gets put on tv will only affect kids if their parents are negligent.

When will people learn that children are not little adults, and they need to be raised attentively?
Just Chris

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« Reply #29 on: 09-08-2003 23:38 »

What I don't understand is how our ESRP and video game censorship is being controlled and mandated by a bunch of governors that are probably 60 and haven't touched a controller? How can you call that a representative government?
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« Reply #30 on: 09-09-2003 00:04 »

Are video games being censored? I'm not aware that they are, in the US at least. They are regulated (given ratings, some are not sold to minors, and so on) but that's very different from censorship, something liberal democrats like myself often lose track of.
Is TV too violent? Are video games too violent? Probably not. The ancient Romans enjoyed gladiatorial combat, played like the Satyricon, and seemed to enjoy watching people suffer and die. These things were part of their culture just like GTA is part of ours. Politicians are famous for blaming media violence for crimes in the world, but I doubt very much that the media really contibute to any crimes on their own.
Just my two cents.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #31 on: 09-09-2003 00:12 »

There is way too much violence in my opinion. Blood, guts, and various organs strewn everywhere, bombs exploding, guns shooting, violent action sequences usually ending in death or maiming. It's sickening, really.

If it's already happening in the world, then the least they could do is spare us the gruesome recreations of what's happening. The only place I'll accept violence being shown is on the news.

Meh to all who oppose this.
kip
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« Reply #32 on: 09-09-2003 08:11 »

I think there is too much violence when it comes to kids TV or TV that kids watch... during the day or what their parents deem suitable. Notice the more de-sensitised society has become to violence, the more it occurs everyday on the streets. Gang wars, muggings, fights etc... I do think that voilence in music and tv is partly responsible - such as the glorification of being a gangsta' or capping somebody with a 9mm.
Coop

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« Reply #33 on: 09-09-2003 09:09 »

I dont think we allow enough violence here in the states. Violence in the media(games, TV) don't attribute to crime if you ask me. Because other countries have worse and lower crime rates at the same time. We americans have just grown so used to blaming everyone else when we do bad things.


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« Reply #34 on: 09-09-2003 09:24 »

*Sigh* I miss the days when TV action shows just involved people getting hurt bad/ humiliated. (e.g. A-Team)
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« Reply #35 on: 09-09-2003 10:13 »

People got hurt in A*Team?
Tweek

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« Reply #36 on: 09-09-2003 11:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
People got hurt in A*Team?
I think one of them broke a nail in one episode  tongue

Jamesbondcja

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« Reply #37 on: 09-09-2003 11:18 »

It seems today that all we see is violence in movies and sex on TV.....

Anyway I says more!
phoenixie

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« Reply #38 on: 09-09-2003 11:42 »

i am remimded of an episode of Cowboy Bebop when the villan tells Spike about how television has become the new religion.
i dont really care about violence on television because i dont really watch television. trying to blame the media for influencing stupid people shows an ignorance of the simple mind. stupid people will be influenced with or without the media. i think more of their bad behavior comes from the people whose opinions they choose to value. 
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« Reply #39 on: 09-09-2003 15:43 »

Violence on TV doesn't cause violence in real life.  And if anyone disagrees with me, I'll shoot you like they shot Bobby Ewing.

  smile

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