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starone

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« on: 08-20-2003 14:56 »

I'm a new member and this is my first post but on to the topic. I assume everyone here hates koth(I refuse to type out the whole name) but I'm interested in hearing why you hate koth. (be very honest!)  smile
Bobby King

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« Reply #1 on: 08-20-2003 15:03 »

welcome to PEEL  smile
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #2 on: 08-20-2003 15:07 »

I hate KOTH because it's not funny.
newhook_1

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« Reply #3 on: 08-20-2003 15:11 »
« Last Edit on: 02-09-2004 00:00 »

I just hate the characters
Hank is a jackass
Bobby has serious mental issues
and Peggy is a self absorbed bitch
Sometimes these types of characters work but KOTH just makes me hate them
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #4 on: 08-20-2003 15:16 »

It's not funny at all!  There is a little bit of heart but i don't get emotional. it's plain boring.  EAvery ep is about bobby doing something hank doesn't like.  Animation sucks, and I just don't like this show at all.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #5 on: 08-20-2003 16:29 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2003 16:29 »

Because Fox put it on instead of Futurama, those bung holes! ...Not that it matters anymore though   tongue
OC_James

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« Reply #6 on: 08-20-2003 17:01 »

Just in case there are people who don't know what King of the Hill is then I'll describe it: A family of hillbillies in Texas have a ton of wacky sitcom-esque adventures usually involving one or more of their crazy neighbors.
I hate it for a number of reasons.

1. It had a better timeslot then Futurama, it would've done fine if it came on after Football because KotH and Football usually share the same fans.
2. It's hard to get involved in an episode.
3. Mike Judge can do better than this.

I have been a fan of Mike Judge for years and when this show premiered I was...disappointed. Yes, I know it's a satire on the south but most of the people who watch it don't realize that because it's way more subtle than the way Beavis and Butthead satire teens (and that was pretty subtle itself).
DrThunder88

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« Reply #7 on: 08-20-2003 17:06 »

It occupies a different niche than most cartoon watchers expect.  Every Fox cartoon has had its own theme.  "Family Guy", "King of the Hill", and, to a lesser extent, "Futurama" were just harder to infer for lesser TV watchers than say "South Park" or more recent episodes of "The Simpsons".

If you take the time to think about it, "King of the Hill" is actually quite humorous.  I wouldn't say that it was better than "Futurama", "Family Guy", or old episodes of "The Simpsons", but it is worth watching the old 12:30AM reruns.
Britz

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« Reply #8 on: 08-20-2003 21:08 »

Oooh, King of the Hill, right, that show is pretty much lost on me, though I did like this one where they were trying to sneak out of Mexico with that Japanese guy in the trunk and they all end up running away when the guy at the border asks if Arlington is a nice place. Heheh, that was funny the rest I didn't get, especially that fat kid *shudder*
mikey

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« Reply #9 on: 08-21-2003 05:24 »

They have some good characters like boomhower and dale, otherwise boring.
bankrupt

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« Reply #10 on: 08-21-2003 08:21 »

I don't like KOTH because:
1) It's too low key for my taste.  In other words, it's boring.
2) The animation matches the boring nature of the show
3) There seem to be too many episodes centered around Hank disapproving of some non-manly activity Bobby is interested in.
4) I can't get the idea of Hank ordering a large pie, fries, and a coffee out of my head when I see the show.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #11 on: 08-21-2003 09:05 »

Well i didnt know what KOTH was until now, but i know of king of the hill.

'Sallright.

Not great tho, or particularly amusing. I certainly dont go out of my way to watch it.
boingo2000

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« Reply #12 on: 08-21-2003 09:14 »

I don't mind the show.  I don't particularly love it either but it's OK.

I hate Peggy though, and will change if it's an episode centering on her.  But I think Dale's hilarious, all conspiracy theory and weird noises.
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #13 on: 08-21-2003 13:33 »

I hate the drawing style, the animation is really bad, the characters are boring, and the plots make you fall asleep.  And worst of all, it's stolen Futurama's timeslot way too many times. 
M Jackson
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« Reply #14 on: 08-21-2003 13:59 »

This is really sad! It's called sour grapes. Sure, I don't love KOTH as much as Futurama. And I only watch it occassionaly. But it's a perfectly good show! The characters escpecially the suporting cast are really funny.And don't forget it's from Mike Beavis and Butthead  Judge!
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #15 on: 08-21-2003 14:07 »

B&B is boring, and so overrated. They had all these lame music videos instead of rock videos, and when there finally was a good video, B&B 'd just talk through it.Besides, it was cut up by MTV adverts every 5 minutes.
The Names Nick

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« Reply #16 on: 08-21-2003 14:13 »
« Last Edit on: 08-21-2003 14:13 »

I have found most eps of KOTH to be lifeless and dull. One example of a ep that was done right was, the ep were Dale Gribble thinks he has gotten . I don't think anyone could sit through that ep and not get rabies a laff.
leelaholic

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« Reply #17 on: 08-21-2003 18:11 »

My idea for the final episode: Boomhauer murders Peggy and all he gets for it is a warning.  laff
Kryten

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« Reply #18 on: 08-21-2003 20:14 »

There's only one thing wrong with killing Peggy... you can't do it again, and again, and again.

Really, she just might be the single most unlikable character in cartoondom.
DrThunder88

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« Reply #19 on: 08-21-2003 22:46 »

Each character on the show represents a part of American life we might not think of as ludicrous but frequently is.  The thing about Peggy's character is...  Oh, what's the fucking point?  My dead-horse-beater is broken from the gun thread.
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #20 on: 08-22-2003 00:14 »

The only good characters are the supporting characters and that doesn't save the show. It's like watching The Simpsons just for Apu or Krusty, while you hate everyone else.
Lindsay99

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« Reply #21 on: 08-22-2003 00:15 »

I don't think King of the Hill is that bad. I mean yeah it's not best or the funniest, but it's still somewhat decent. Yeah, there are some pretty boring episodes, but overall i enjoy KOTH. I actually like the neighbors more than the Hills. My favorite character is Boomhauer (sp?)
starone

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« Reply #22 on: 08-22-2003 11:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
There's only one thing wrong with killing Peggy... you can't do it again, and again, and again.

Really, she just might be the single most unlikable character in cartoondom.

Yeah, she is too full of herself to realize her own limitations, I'd like for her to die like this: Leela kicks her head off!  evil laugh
PCC Fred

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« Reply #23 on: 08-22-2003 20:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
There's only one thing wrong with killing Peggy... you can't do it again, and again, and again.

Really, she just might be the single most unlikable character in cartoondom.

Kryten, I love you!  Will you marry me?  I want to bear your children! etc...

I used to like KotH, and I used to think Luanne was hot in the dark days before the goddess  love Leela  love arrived on the scene.  But the show lost it's way somewhere in the third season, and was never as funny again.

And as for Peggy Hill  puke

I'm sorry, I thought i could finish that sentence without wretching.

DotheBartman

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« Reply #24 on: 08-23-2003 02:05 »

KOTH isn't at fault for Futurama's death, people.  It had nothing to do with it (and I imagine Futurama alum Wes Archer doesn't blame it either given that he's worked on both shows).  Its just Fox stupidity.  KOTH itself has barely survived Fox's "support" during certain seasons, though its seen a recent surge in popularity.  If you want to hate a show for Futurama's sake, hate goddamn Malcolm in the Middle.  Not only did it take Futurama's cushy original post-Simpsons spot (almost ANY show can succeed in that spot, which was probably a big part of Malcolm's initial success), but, well, it just flat out sucks, and is one of the most vapid and shallow (not to mention idiotic) shows on television, maybe EVER.  Its not really Malcolm's fault either I suppose (its not like the producers said "lets go destory Futurama!  Bwahahahahahahaha" ), but the fact that its so goddamn bad should garner it more hate then KOTH.

Anyways, as for KOTH...I like the CONCEPT.  A completely realistic, down to earth, character based show is a great idea, and one that's sadly lacking in any live action sitcoms right now, let alone animation (other then KOTH and the first four Simpsons seasons).  But....the characters just don't really work for me.  I understand that many people who've lived in Texas or similar areas tend to enjoy the show a lot, but personally I just cant relate.  And alot of the characters are just kind of stereotypical of themselves.  Nearly all the material for Hank is him being anal about something, Bobby is always doing something Hank disaproves of (often very flamboyent things), etc.  I can see why other people would like KOTH (whereas most live action sitcoms...Malcolm for example...are too shallow for me to respect), but it personally doesn't resonate with me.
El Zilcho

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« Reply #25 on: 08-23-2003 02:14 »

 
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Originally posted by The Names Nick:
Dale Gribble thinks he has gotten . I don't think anyone could sit through that ep and not get rabies a laff.
Your typo made the post a lot more interesting.   laff
starone

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« Reply #26 on: 08-23-2003 08:05 »

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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
  If you want to hate a show for Futurama's sake, hate goddamn Malcolm in the Middle.   
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You just came up with my next post!
PCC Fred

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« Reply #27 on: 08-23-2003 19:24 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
Anyways, as for KOTH...I like the CONCEPT.  A completely realistic, down to earth, character based show is a great idea,

Therein lies the problem.  The early episodes, although not completely realistic, were character driven, and that's what made it so watchable.

But since the third season the storylines have gotten progressively loopier, with the characters getting into more and more outlandish situations, and Peggy falling out of the plane was the final straw.  I quit watching the show about the time of Hank's propane dance troupe.  no no
Coop

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« Reply #28 on: 08-23-2003 20:24 »

Enjoyed the first season of KOTH, I thought it was funny. You all know I live out here in Texas and I just thought "my god, this is so real"


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starone

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« Reply #29 on: 08-23-2003 23:30 »

I hate Hank because he associates feeling he's supposed to have for humans with inanimate things (propane,trucks).
canīt_read

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« Reply #30 on: 02-06-2004 17:02 »

I will go against the grain and say that I honestly love the show. The humor is subtle, though there are valleys of quality lower than expected there are no drastic changes like in the Simpsons, and best of all, the characters are very strong. They all are able to sustain a certain unique quality while all sharing would distinctive character trait: selfishness. Dull? That is really dependant on your taste. I agree that there could be a few less Hank doesn't like Bobby episodes, but I still would be very upset if I ever had to see the series end. From what I can see, there is nothing seriously wrong with the series and I don't think you should blame it for Futurama being canceled. Blame Fox, if anything. They gave the KotH the crappy timeslot now and unlike what some previously claimed, It is NOT working for them.
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« Reply #31 on: 02-06-2004 20:38 »

I don't hate the show. I don't think its a great show, but it is entertaining. I certainly don't blame Futurama's demise on KOTH.
Teral

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« Reply #32 on: 02-06-2004 20:53 »

 
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Originally posted by can't_read:
I don't think you should blame it for Futurama being canceled. Blame Fox, if anything.

Who's blaming it for Futurama's cancellation? Is it not legetimate not to like a show?

I don't like KOTH, it's boring characters, it's bland animation or the fact that most of the jokes fall flat on their face. I don't blame it for Futurama's cancellation, but I don't like it either. I'm fairly apathetic about it actually.
Coop

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« Reply #33 on: 02-06-2004 20:59 »
« Last Edit on: 02-06-2004 20:59 »

I can enjoy KOTH from time to time. But I just think that it's stupid that they kept it and not Futurama.


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M0le

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« Reply #34 on: 02-06-2004 21:22 »

It's not a terrible show in itself. It's pretty bland and unfunny for a cartoon sitcom, but some scenes and characters are OK. The Hill family are stupid and 2-dimensional, but Dale and Boomhouer are good for a laugh. Alas, my brother thinks every episode is a riot, since that stupid prostitute episode. He really likes pimps.  no no
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« Reply #35 on: 02-06-2004 21:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
 Who's blaming it for Futurama's cancellation? Is it not legetimate not to like a show?.

Perfectly legitimate. The "blame KOTH for Futurama's cancellation" talk did come up earlier though. Purely facetious remarks, I'm sure.
zapperdan

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« Reply #36 on: 02-06-2004 22:28 »
« Last Edit on: 02-06-2004 22:28 »

I really like king of the hill, it's very funny. bill dovetree is great and dale gribble is comedy gold. i'm about to start collecting the dvd boxsets, so   tongue
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« Reply #37 on: 02-06-2004 22:52 »

1. It sucks
2. It's not funny
3. It sucks
4. Making fun of rednecks was good - in 1995
5. It sucks
6. It sucks
7. It's still being shown and Futurama isn't
8. It sucks
9. It had a better timeslot than Futurama
10. Screw Flanders
M0le

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« Reply #38 on: 02-06-2004 23:01 »

Heh. It sucks to the power of 5.   tongue
neonluvchixn

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« Reply #39 on: 02-06-2004 23:38 »

I never had to watch the show, I lived in a neighborhood that was like the real live KOTH.
I was both funny and sad at the same time. *sniff* I miss those dopes.

I never cared for KOTH anyway. Besides I felt that the show should have been cancelled a LONG time ago. If it was I felt that Futurama should have lasted this long.To this day I still think (and know)that fox cancelled the wrong show.
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