American/non anime Cartoons Vs.Anime

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What makes a man turn neutral?  A lust for power, for gold?  Or was I just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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I dig anime for so many reasons, many I'd like to grow out of, but I have to face the fact, Anime is the only way I can see Magic Knight Rayearth's Nova.  Best animated psycho in a magical girl series ever.

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Originally posted by Nixorbo:Vash the Stampede, however, would not look all that out of place in Magic Knight Rayearth.

Liar!  Take that back!

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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
*Hit's starone*
Moron! I didn't say that originally.

(Takes out a chainsaw)

Then who said it?

(starts the chainsaw)

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Sorry 'bout this, Coop.

*Neuters starone to keep him tame*

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Why neuter when you can kill?

On second thought, Yea, neuter him but, give him a playboy magazine. 

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Originally posted by evan:
 People who claim to still like the original He-Man show are liars. Upon watching it as an adult, I was surprised by how crappy that show was. Same thing for Thundercats, and most other 80s cartoons (aside from GI Joe and Transformers).

The trick to still liking the shows you watched as a kid is to NEVER watch them again, EVER...  That way you just reminisce on what you THOUGHT was the greatest thing ever...   

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Originally posted by winna:
 The trick to still liking the shows you watched as a kid is to NEVER watch them again, EVER...  That way you just reminisce on what you THOUGHT was the greatest thing ever...   

Correct! I made the mistake of watching an old ninja turtles tape. The animation was so sloppy and over all it wasnt as enjoyable as it was when I was a kid.

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i tried to watch anime but the expressions were dumb (whats with a tear bigger than their head?), lypsync was off, and they have really stupid consepts. I have watched the simpsons all my life and am not tired of it. Family Guy is not repetitive ever. And i cant stop watching futurama! All in all, anime sux, cartoons rule.

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Originally posted by skater910:
Family Guy is not repetitive ever.

Excuse me?

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Originally posted by winna:
 The trick to still liking the shows you watched as a kid is to NEVER watch them again, EVER...  That way you just reminisce on what you THOUGHT was the greatest thing ever...     

Except Robotech. That still looks good.
And my original question still is un awnsered.
Is Samurai Jack concidered Anime or American (or both?)

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Originally posted by skater910:
i tried to watch anime but the expressions were dumb (whats with a tear bigger than their head?), lypsync was off, and they have really stupid consepts. I have watched the simpsons all my life and am not tired of it. Family Guy is not repetitive ever. And i cant stop watching futurama! All in all, anime sux, cartoons rule.

They speak Japanese on Japan, which is very diffent to moron, like you speak. Why the hell do you think the lip's are off sync?

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Congratz, Nurdbot, that was the second worst post ever.

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Give him a break,dammit! Its Nurdbot!

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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
Sorry 'bout this, Coop.

*Neuters starone to keep him tame*

(takes out a Bazooka and aims it at Nurdbot)

I am also sorry 

(Fires the bazooka) 

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Man, TSN, how much time did you spend on that?

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Hahahaha  .
Cowboy Bebop hist the lips and sounds right on target, but they redid the talking for the American version, didn't they?

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Originally posted by TSN-Bot:


Congratz, Nurdbot, that was the second worst post ever.

This might be a stupid question but..whats the first?

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I think it's sad when a lurker just's post's to mock me  .

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Never mind...Moving on.

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Mr. B, Samurai Jack is a heavily Japanese influenced American production.  It uses frame sliding and screen-cut techniques which were not exactly pioneered in Japan, but were put into play in most all Japanese animation.  The frame-holding, sliding, and less detailed cuts (say of a white flash across a black background symbolizing a sword-slash) save huge bucks on budget, which allows for more detail to be put into other areas.  This budget wise angle also gives anime its hi-tech feel, which is transferred into Sam. Jack.

Gendy Tarofsky (sp?) is a bold pioneer in animation IMO.  He makes no illusions as to the nature of his parody of anime, but at the same time he also adapts the style into the story-telling.  This same nature can be seen in both Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's Lab.  No, it's not anime, but it is not traditional American animation either.  It's a heavily Japanese-influenced American production.

Watch "Ninja Scroll" if you want to see some of the origins of Samurai Jack.

(Side notes: On cartoon Network in japan PPG was run back-to-back with MKR, and if you are familiar with the 2 series, you could see why.  Also a Japanese freind of mine [Propper Japanese, not born off the island or a Japanese wannabe] says he LOVES Samurai Jackm so I guess it hit its mark.)

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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
Man, TSN, how much time did you spend on that?

Not as much as they spent feeding you HAHAHAHA!

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I boned your Mother with Fishy-Joe.

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Originally posted by Pitt Clemens:
Mr. B,

There actualy is a Mr. B on the boards and I don't think he's in this thread.

So what then would be the final verdict? Not Anime? just because it's not Japanese? The poll is American/non-anime Vs. anime. and Jack is more Anime then non-anime. Also when will they ever make DVD's Damnation.

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For the real verdict, as to whether it's anime or not, I say, check the original soundtrack.  SJ sounds American to me. :-)

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Main Entry: an·i·me 
Pronunciation: 'a-n&-"mA, 'ä-nE-
Function: noun
Etymology: Japanese, animation, short for animEshiyon, from English
1988

So, verdict is, Samurai Jack isn't anime simply because it isn't from Japan. Its got everything going for it to be an anime, but it isnt. Samurai Jack is kinda like "I can believe its not anime."

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Except, in Japan, ALL cartoons are called "anime", from Bugs Bunny to Blue Gender, and everything between them.

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Originally posted by Kryten:
Except, in Japan, ALL cartoons are called "anime", from Bugs Bunny to Blue Gender, and everything between them.

Really? hmm, thats food for thought I think. Thats why its just less confusing to call them all cartoons.

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i tried to watch anime but the expressions were dumb (whats with a tear bigger than their head?)

And what's with those Looney Tunes dropping their jaws on the floor? Your argument there is weak. Our cartoon's expressions would seem as foreign to the Japanese as well.

And to finish off the lip-synching debate, Japanese animators draw the lip movements before the dialogue is finalized (weird, I know) so even in Japanese the lips would still look a bit off.

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i hate anime i hate anime i HATE anime

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And I hate people who can't even captilize there I's.

Suck mine, baby. Hard strong and capital.

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Add another vote for the hate anime camp.

To tell you the truth, I have only seen a few anime shows/movies ever, so I am not one to judge by the show itself.

I hate it because its popular with these fad followers. I agree with Nixorbo that the fans are the worst out there. All you hear from them is how great Japan is. For god sakes, move to Japan already and stop bothering me!

So as long as it is a fad, I will hate it.. much like I hate skateboards and the Matrix maniacs.

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Originally posted by ShadowFox:
So as long as it is a fad, I will hate it.. much like I hate skateboards and the Matrix maniacs.

Skateboards are really more of an institution now. Maby were this 1982 or so you could call it a fad. But it seems to have withstood the test of time fad wise. Unlike say the Seugwey{sic?} or spring shoes.

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Skateboard's were a fad?

Oh right, I wasn't around in 82 

There was a time before you met me?

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Originally posted by ShadowFox:
I hate it because its popular with these fad followers.

Hating something because it's popular is a good reason. I understand where you're coming from.  Man, with all these new people on PEEL, I'm beginning to hate Futurama because it's getting so popular around here.

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I used to think that Anime handeled Action and drama better and American cartoons did funnier comedy. But with in the past yeat I have seen a bunch of great exeptions.

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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
And I hate people who can't even captilize there I's.

Suck mine, baby. Hard strong and capital.

"Their", not "there".

Irony, thy name is Nurdbot.

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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
I boned your Mother with Fishy-Joe.

Your mother boned Petunia 

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Originally posted by Kryten:
 "Their", not "there".

Irony, thy name is Nurdbot.

I think It sound's better.

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Originally posted by Just Chris:
 And what's with those Looney Tunes dropping their jaws on the floor? Your argument there is weak. Our cartoon's expressions would seem as foreign to the Japanese as well.

And to finish off the lip-synching debate, Japanese animators draw the lip movements before the dialogue is finalized (weird, I know) so even in Japanese the lips would still look a bit off.

Well, looney toons never present themselves as a serious cartoon now do they? The problem with anime is that even the serious cartoons have head growing and all the BS. Looney toons has nothing BUT the weird stuff. And even then, Ive never seen bugs or daffy do any of the weird shit they do on FLCL or some other animes.