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PEE Poll: American/non anime Cartoons Vs.Anime
Anime All the way!   -16 (38.1%)
Anime? Anime?!No way!   -25 (59.5%)
Umm.....I hate cartoons.   -1 (2.4%)
Total Voters: 42

Nixorbo

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« Reply #120 on: 08-26-2003 10:56 »

What makes a man turn neutral?  A lust for power, for gold?  Or was I just born with a heart full of neutrality?
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« Reply #121 on: 08-26-2003 11:04 »

I dig anime for so many reasons, many I'd like to grow out of, but I have to face the fact, Anime is the only way I can see Magic Knight Rayearth's Nova.  Best animated psycho in a magical girl series ever.
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« Reply #122 on: 08-26-2003 11:09 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:Vash the Stampede, however, would not look all that out of place in Magic Knight Rayearth.

Liar!  Take that back!
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« Reply #123 on: 08-26-2003 14:01 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2003 14:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
*Hit's starone*
Moron! I didn't say that originally.

(Takes out a chainsaw)

Then who said it?

(starts the chainsaw)
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« Reply #124 on: 08-26-2003 17:38 »

Sorry 'bout this, Coop.

*Neuters starone to keep him tame*
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« Reply #125 on: 08-26-2003 19:40 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2003 19:40 »

Why neuter when you can kill?

On second thought, Yea, neuter him but, give him a playboy magazine.  laff
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« Reply #126 on: 08-26-2003 20:26 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
 People who claim to still like the original He-Man show are liars. Upon watching it as an adult, I was surprised by how crappy that show was. Same thing for Thundercats, and most other 80s cartoons (aside from GI Joe and Transformers).

The trick to still liking the shows you watched as a kid is to NEVER watch them again, EVER...  That way you just reminisce on what you THOUGHT was the greatest thing ever...   laff
Coop

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« Reply #127 on: 08-26-2003 20:36 »

 
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Originally posted by winna:
 The trick to still liking the shows you watched as a kid is to NEVER watch them again, EVER...  That way you just reminisce on what you THOUGHT was the greatest thing ever...    laff

Correct! I made the mistake of watching an old ninja turtles tape. The animation was so sloppy and over all it wasnt as enjoyable as it was when I was a kid.


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« Reply #128 on: 08-27-2003 01:09 »

i tried to watch anime but the expressions were dumb (whats with a tear bigger than their head?), lypsync was off, and they have really stupid consepts. I have watched the simpsons all my life and am not tired of it. Family Guy is not repetitive ever. And i cant stop watching futurama! All in all, anime sux, cartoons rule.
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« Reply #129 on: 08-27-2003 01:22 »

 
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Originally posted by skater910:
Family Guy is not repetitive ever.

Excuse me?
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« Reply #130 on: 08-27-2003 02:28 »
« Last Edit on: 08-27-2003 02:28 »

 
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Originally posted by winna:
 The trick to still liking the shows you watched as a kid is to NEVER watch them again, EVER...  That way you just reminisce on what you THOUGHT was the greatest thing ever...     laff

Except Robotech. That still looks good.
And my original question still is un awnsered.
Is Samurai Jack concidered Anime or American (or both?)

Michael Zaite
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« Reply #131 on: 08-27-2003 02:33 »

 
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Originally posted by skater910:
i tried to watch anime but the expressions were dumb (whats with a tear bigger than their head?), lypsync was off, and they have really stupid consepts. I have watched the simpsons all my life and am not tired of it. Family Guy is not repetitive ever. And i cant stop watching futurama! All in all, anime sux, cartoons rule.
They speak Japanese on Japan, which is very diffent to moron, like you speak. Why the hell do you think the lip's are off sync?


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« Reply #132 on: 08-27-2003 07:47 »



Congratz, Nurdbot, that was the second worst post ever.
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« Reply #133 on: 08-27-2003 11:48 »

Give him a break,dammit! Its Nurdbot!
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« Reply #134 on: 08-27-2003 13:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
Sorry 'bout this, Coop.

*Neuters starone to keep him tame*

(takes out a Bazooka and aims it at Nurdbot)

I am also sorry  evil laugh

(Fires the bazooka)  evil laugh
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« Reply #135 on: 08-27-2003 17:37 »

Man, TSN, how much time did you spend on that?
winna

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« Reply #136 on: 08-27-2003 17:58 »

Hahahaha  laff.
Cowboy Bebop hist the lips and sounds right on target, but they redid the talking for the American version, didn't they?
Coop

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« Reply #137 on: 08-27-2003 21:57 »

 
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Originally posted by TSN-Bot:


Congratz, Nurdbot, that was the second worst post ever.

This might be a stupid question but..whats the first?


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« Reply #138 on: 08-28-2003 01:43 »

I think it's sad when a lurker just's post's to mock me  no no .
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« Reply #139 on: 08-28-2003 03:21 »
« Last Edit on: 08-28-2003 03:21 »

Never mind...Moving on.
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« Reply #140 on: 08-28-2003 03:34 »

Mr. B, Samurai Jack is a heavily Japanese influenced American production.  It uses frame sliding and screen-cut techniques which were not exactly pioneered in Japan, but were put into play in most all Japanese animation.  The frame-holding, sliding, and less detailed cuts (say of a white flash across a black background symbolizing a sword-slash) save huge bucks on budget, which allows for more detail to be put into other areas.  This budget wise angle also gives anime its hi-tech feel, which is transferred into Sam. Jack.

Gendy Tarofsky (sp?) is a bold pioneer in animation IMO.  He makes no illusions as to the nature of his parody of anime, but at the same time he also adapts the style into the story-telling.  This same nature can be seen in both Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's Lab.  No, it's not anime, but it is not traditional American animation either.  It's a heavily Japanese-influenced American production.

Watch "Ninja Scroll" if you want to see some of the origins of Samurai Jack.

(Side notes: On cartoon Network in japan PPG was run back-to-back with MKR, and if you are familiar with the 2 series, you could see why.  Also a Japanese freind of mine [Propper Japanese, not born off the island or a Japanese wannabe] says he LOVES Samurai Jackm so I guess it hit its mark.)
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« Reply #141 on: 08-28-2003 14:33 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
Man, TSN, how much time did you spend on that?

Not as much as they spent feeding you HAHAHAHA!

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« Reply #142 on: 08-28-2003 17:34 »

I boned your Mother with Fishy-Joe.
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« Reply #143 on: 08-28-2003 18:20 »

 
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Originally posted by Pitt Clemens:
Mr. B,

There actualy is a Mr. B on the boards and I don't think he's in this thread.

So what then would be the final verdict? Not Anime? just because it's not Japanese? The poll is American/non-anime Vs. anime. and Jack is more Anime then non-anime. Also when will they ever make DVD's Damnation.

Michael Zaite
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« Reply #144 on: 08-28-2003 18:37 »

For the real verdict, as to whether it's anime or not, I say, check the original soundtrack.  SJ sounds American to me. :-)
Coop

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« Reply #145 on: 08-28-2003 20:25 »

Main Entry: anime 
Pronunciation: 'a-n&-"mA, '-nE-
Function: noun
Etymology: Japanese, animation, short for animEshiyon, from English
1988

So, verdict is, Samurai Jack isn't anime simply because it isn't from Japan. Its got everything going for it to be an anime, but it isnt. Samurai Jack is kinda like "I can believe its not anime."
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« Reply #146 on: 08-28-2003 22:07 »

Except, in Japan, ALL cartoons are called "anime", from Bugs Bunny to Blue Gender, and everything between them.
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« Reply #147 on: 08-28-2003 22:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
Except, in Japan, ALL cartoons are called "anime", from Bugs Bunny to Blue Gender, and everything between them.

Really? hmm, thats food for thought I think. Thats why its just less confusing to call them all cartoons.


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« Reply #148 on: 08-28-2003 23:16 »

 
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i tried to watch anime but the expressions were dumb (whats with a tear bigger than their head?)

And what's with those Looney Tunes dropping their jaws on the floor? Your argument there is weak. Our cartoon's expressions would seem as foreign to the Japanese as well.

And to finish off the lip-synching debate, Japanese animators draw the lip movements before the dialogue is finalized (weird, I know) so even in Japanese the lips would still look a bit off.
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« Reply #149 on: 08-29-2003 01:37 »

i hate anime i hate anime i HATE anime
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« Reply #150 on: 08-29-2003 02:46 »

And I hate people who can't even captilize there I's.

Suck mine, baby. Hard strong and capital.
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« Reply #151 on: 08-29-2003 04:00 »

Add another vote for the hate anime camp.

To tell you the truth, I have only seen a few anime shows/movies ever, so I am not one to judge by the show itself.

I hate it because its popular with these fad followers. I agree with Nixorbo that the fans are the worst out there. All you hear from them is how great Japan is. For god sakes, move to Japan already and stop bothering me!

So as long as it is a fad, I will hate it.. much like I hate skateboards and the Matrix maniacs.
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« Reply #152 on: 08-29-2003 05:16 »

 
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Originally posted by ShadowFox:
So as long as it is a fad, I will hate it.. much like I hate skateboards and the Matrix maniacs.

Skateboards are really more of an institution now. Maby were this 1982 or so you could call it a fad. But it seems to have withstood the test of time fad wise. Unlike say the Seugwey{sic?} or spring shoes.
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« Reply #153 on: 08-29-2003 06:14 »

Skateboard's were a fad?

Oh right, I wasn't around in 82  laff

There was a time before you met me?
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« Reply #154 on: 08-29-2003 08:40 »

 
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Originally posted by ShadowFox:
I hate it because its popular with these fad followers.

Hating something because it's popular is a good reason. I understand where you're coming from.  Man, with all these new people on PEEL, I'm beginning to hate Futurama because it's getting so popular around here.
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« Reply #155 on: 08-29-2003 12:44 »

I used to think that Anime handeled Action and drama better and American cartoons did funnier comedy. But with in the past yeat I have seen a bunch of great exeptions.
Kryten

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« Reply #156 on: 08-29-2003 12:56 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
And I hate people who can't even captilize there I's.

Suck mine, baby. Hard strong and capital.

"Their", not "there".

Irony, thy name is Nurdbot.

starone

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« Reply #157 on: 08-29-2003 13:20 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
I boned your Mother with Fishy-Joe.

Your mother boned Petunia  laff
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« Reply #158 on: 09-01-2003 03:09 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
 "Their", not "there".

Irony, thy name is Nurdbot.

I think It sound's better.

Coop

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« Reply #159 on: 09-01-2003 17:14 »

 
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Originally posted by Just Chris:
 And what's with those Looney Tunes dropping their jaws on the floor? Your argument there is weak. Our cartoon's expressions would seem as foreign to the Japanese as well.

And to finish off the lip-synching debate, Japanese animators draw the lip movements before the dialogue is finalized (weird, I know) so even in Japanese the lips would still look a bit off.

Well, looney toons never present themselves as a serious cartoon now do they? The problem with anime is that even the serious cartoons have head growing and all the BS. Looney toons has nothing BUT the weird stuff. And even then, Ive never seen bugs or daffy do any of the weird shit they do on FLCL or some other animes.


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