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PEE Poll: American/non anime Cartoons Vs.Anime
Anime All the way!   -16 (38.1%)
Anime? Anime?!No way!   -25 (59.5%)
Umm.....I hate cartoons.   -1 (2.4%)
Total Members Voted: 42

Joey Mousepad

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« on: 08-19-2003 21:34 »

I was just wondering.  :D
aslate

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« Reply #1 on: 08-19-2003 21:36 »

Never could stand Anime.
newhook_1

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« Reply #2 on: 08-19-2003 21:58 »
« Last Edit on: 08-19-2003 21:58 »

Always liked the non anime stuff better (like Futurama for instance). I would have put claymation on the list too but that's just me.
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #3 on: 08-19-2003 22:08 »

Anime is evil and dumb.
Just Chris

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« Reply #4 on: 08-19-2003 22:10 »

Note: judging anime by Gundam and Dragonball Z is like judgine American animation by Street Sharks and Rocket Power.
NibblerJr

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« Reply #5 on: 08-19-2003 22:16 »

Yeah,thats true. Whats Street Sharks?
newhook_1

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« Reply #6 on: 08-19-2003 22:18 »
« Last Edit on: 08-19-2003 22:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Just Chris:
Note: judging anime by Gundam and Dragonball Z is like judgine American animation by Street Sharks and Rocket Power.

I'm judgeing it by Robotech
Coop

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« Reply #7 on: 08-19-2003 22:32 »

Street Sharks was the bomb. Asphalt eating killer sharks with human bodies.

And I like anime...but its not better than american cartoons. Most Japanophiles would disagree, but I just always liked American cartoons.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #8 on: 08-19-2003 22:47 »

But arent all amerian cartoons made in asia?  :p
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #9 on: 08-19-2003 22:49 »

I am not a big anime fan, but i don't hate it. but i like american cartoons more.

hehe, street sharks ruled  ;)
Coop

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« Reply #10 on: 08-19-2003 23:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Australian Guy:
But arent all amerian cartoons made in asia?   :p

Yeas...including the ninja turtles. And Futurama.
Gocad

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« Reply #11 on: 08-19-2003 23:30 »

I can help it, but I do not really like Anime.
Coop

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« Reply #12 on: 08-20-2003 00:05 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2003 00:05 »

 Join the boat. Plenty of people dont like Anime. I'm willing to grant that alot of them are good, quality cartoons(like Trigun, and BGC 2040) but shows like FLCL, where its 30 minutes of non-stop crazyness (watch the show, heads constantly grow and people turn into animals and its just the stupidest thing you've ever seen) shows like that can rot your mind.
Just Chris

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« Reply #13 on: 08-20-2003 00:12 »

There are plenty of American cartoons that kick ass. But Japanese ones have more flavor and variety. The trick is to phase out the "Japan-ness" that fills so many shows.
Mango

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« Reply #14 on: 08-20-2003 00:44 »

...zenophobes.  :p

Cartoons cannot all be grouped together in one big slosh.  There're sooo many different kinds.  Same goes with anime.  There are different styles and genres of each, though it seems many people fail to realize that not all anime is the same, and that some of it is very very bad and some of it is really good.

As for me, I don't care if it's made in the US or in Japan--I just like hearing stuff spoken in Japanese!  Nihongo wa hontou ni daisuki...it's such a pretty language, but when spoken in the right tones it can be very fun and silly.  I'm going to translate Japanese stuff when I grow up.  :)
Margarita

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« Reply #15 on: 08-20-2003 01:30 »

i don't like Anime.
evan

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« Reply #16 on: 08-20-2003 02:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Coop:
 Join the boat. Plenty of people dont like Anime. I'm willing to grant that alot of them are good, quality cartoons(like Trigun, and BGC 2040) but shows like FLCL, where its 30 minutes of non-stop crazyness (watch the show, heads constantly grow and people turn into animals and its just the stupidest thing you've ever seen) shows like that can rot your mind.


Blasphemer. When the day comes, you'll recognize Furi Kuri for the genius that it is.

Cowboy Bebop, Neon Genesis: Evangelion, Serial Expieriments: Lain, Berserk, Furi Kuri, Trigun, Excel Saga

v.

The PJs, Street Sharks, Rugrats, horrible Ren and Stimpy, Stripperrella, Dilbert, the disappointingly bad Clerks.

This should be obvious.

Compare Akira or Spirited Away to any crap that Disney or Dreamworks has put out. I wonder which'll win.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #17 on: 08-20-2003 02:13 »

homerjay, would you kindly hold up a kettle for a moment?

Anime. Some Normal American cartoons are unfit for your eyes. Some American's will agree with me on this.
wu_konguk

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« Reply #18 on: 08-20-2003 09:41 »

Well I'm gonna go with anime.
Reason being is that the amount of good anime in comparison to the amount of good western animation is far greater. I like some weastern animation (why would I be on this board if I didn't) but there is alot of crap from America (mostly Nickalodian (spelling) fault)
I agree with Just Chris there is just so much more varity in anime from the rediculious shows (FLCL riduculous in a very good way) to the serious anime (Wing of Honnamise).
Good animated film out of America are now few and far between but good anime's are easy to find.
So that is why I choose anime.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #19 on: 08-20-2003 10:13 »

That was a great movie .
I lent my tape of it to my friend 4 years ago.
I'm still waiting for it back  :)
Nurdbot

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« Reply #20 on: 08-20-2003 10:16 »

Look at Disney. Cry.

That Movie, Wu, was a damn good one.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #21 on: 08-20-2003 10:55 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2003 10:55 »

Anime styling is just so much better than current US stuff.

Too much of today's US animated output has been got at by the political correctness lobby and the overly concerned parents groups.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #22 on: 08-20-2003 10:59 »

It's all the same crap to me.

It's just that one is more pretentious and tripped out than the other.
Speli

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« Reply #23 on: 08-20-2003 11:00 »

They all have their moments. American animation, Bugs Bunney, Cartoon Network (Hey, it's all good), things like that, while Anime, has...Um...
Yes. I'm not a fan, because it's too extreme for me, and the characters look all the same (In my opinion.). I'm not judging by Dragonball Z crap, either, I know that's not true anime. I'm thinking of Trigun, Sailormoon, Cowboy Bepop...Stuff like that. American animation is just as voilent, but it's cartoon violence, which always beats anime's realistic voilence.
wu_konguk

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« Reply #24 on: 08-20-2003 11:14 »

Speli brings up a good point. Most american animations use cartoon like violence which can be fine but lessens the impact. Now I'm not a fan of violence for the sake of violence but where violence helps the message of the show or film.
Trigun has violence (granted for the first 13 episodes it is mostly comedy violence) but the message is always that violence just leads to tradgedy. Vash is and expert gunman who does not liek to see people get hurt.
Basically most American shows will not try to push any boundries in their cartoons and when they do they get flammed. Please some one give me an example of an American cartoon that questions so many things about life and such that Lain and Evangelion do. Basically there are very few, if any, American cartoons that really make you think. I am interested to see if there are example of American animation where philosopy or theology are prominant.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #25 on: 08-20-2003 11:20 »

 
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Originally posted by Speli:
American animation is just as voilent, but it's cartoon violence, which always beats anime's realistic voilence.

 
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Yes its violence but its entertaining voilence, and in the end, isnt that the true violence

As for Wu......How bout zim?
OR sealab? They push the boundaries  :D
wu_konguk

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« Reply #26 on: 08-20-2003 12:20 »

Can't say I've seen Sealab and I have only seen Zim in a very sleep deprived state but wasn't it cancelled or something, if it was it proves my point.
Leaderbean

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« Reply #27 on: 08-20-2003 13:03 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2003 13:03 »

I love them both, but i have to say alot of work goes into anime. I guess i have more respect for it cause it is harder to draw and animate.

Most people do judge all of anime based on seeing one show. Some don't realize that it is like watching american tv. Some shows you hate and some you like.
bankrupt

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« Reply #28 on: 08-20-2003 13:09 »

 
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
  I'm judgeing it by Robotech

Robotech is a great show.  I still love it to this day.  It was so much different than the shows that were on around that time like Transformers, G.I. Joe.  I really took to it. 

To be fair, you're shortchanging yourself if you're using it as your reference for the whole of anime.  Robotech is an edited and Americanized combination of three different Japanese shows to make it long enough for the typical tv season in America at that time.  I have SDF Macross, the Japanese series that the 1st section of Robotech was adapted from.  The differences between the two aren't drastic, but they're there.  At most you could say Robotech is a small look at the "mecha" type of anime.  I wouldn't take it any further.

On topic: I won't vote because I like them both.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #29 on: 08-20-2003 13:12 »

Some anime is clool, but I much prefer other stuff  :)
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #30 on: 08-20-2003 14:06 »

Well, both have lots of shows that suck (IMHO), but I'm not suididal so I'm not naming any.

Some of the crossovers as seen in the Animatrix were good, others were bad.
Binder

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« Reply #31 on: 08-20-2003 14:37 »

Woah, whats with the hate twords DBZ? Not "true" anime?? Show some respect.
starone

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« Reply #32 on: 08-20-2003 14:59 »

I like only a few anime when it's not altered to death (Kenshin,Tenchie) but Futurama is the unbeaten king!
NibblerJr

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« Reply #33 on: 08-20-2003 15:05 »

 
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Woah, whats with the hate twords DBZ? Not "true" anime?? Show some respect.
Its not true anime....
newhook_1

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« Reply #34 on: 08-20-2003 15:07 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2003 15:07 »

seeing as how we are on the topic of Japanese cartoons there is going to be a new cartoon based on the F-ZERO games
Link: http://cube.ign.com/articles/434/434548p1.html
Nurdbot

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« Reply #35 on: 08-20-2003 15:15 »

I remember those games. I wasted many a hour infront of those.
Kryten

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« Reply #36 on: 08-20-2003 15:28 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:

Cowboy Bebop, Neon Genesis: Evangelion, Serial Expieriments: Lain, Berserk, Furi Kuri, Trigun, Excel Saga

v.

The PJs, Street Sharks, Rugrats, horrible Ren and Stimpy, Stripperrella, Dilbert, the disappointingly bad Clerks.

This should be obvious.


Hamtaro, Yu-Gi-Oh, Beyblade, Medabots, horrible Pilot Candidate

vs.

Futurama, Gargoyles, Batman: TAS, the VERY underrated ExoSquad, Reboot, S1-9 of The Simpsons, Aqua Teen Hunger Force...

see, I can play "Stack the Deck" too.
Jamesbondcja

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« Reply #37 on: 08-20-2003 15:33 »

I will go with non-anime but I still think that it rocks big time.
Teral

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« Reply #38 on: 08-20-2003 16:01 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
 Cowboy Bebop, Neon Genesis: Evangelion, Serial Expieriments: Lain, Berserk, Furi Kuri, Trigun, Excel Saga

v.

The PJs, Street Sharks, Rugrats, horrible Ren and Stimpy, Stripperrella, Dilbert, the disappointingly bad Clerks.

Wait a minute ... are you bad-mouthin' "Dilbert"? Nix, sick him!

Granted, it didn't live up to the strip, but lumping it in with "Rugrats", and the like is a capital offense.

The top-5 on my cartoon-hitlist are all non-anime (Futurama, Simpsons, Darkwing Duck, Dilbert and The Critic), so I'll go with #2.

evan

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« Reply #39 on: 08-20-2003 16:11 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2003 16:11 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
 Hamtaro, Yu-Gi-Oh, Beyblade, Medabots, horrible Pilot Candidate

vs.

Futurama, Gargoyles, Batman: TAS, the VERY underrated ExoSquad, Reboot, S1-9 of The Simpsons, Aqua Teen Hunger Force...

see, I can play "Stack the Deck" too.


Yeah, but all the "anime" you picked is geared towards children and was made only for merchandising. All the American cartoons you picked are adult-oriented (aside from Reboot, which wasn't that good anyway).

Upon watching it again, I've realized that "Duckman" has not aged well at all. It always seemed much funnier in my memory.

And Dilbert is weak and ugly to look at. It stings my eyes.

And FLCL kicks Aqua Teen's lame, "we're-going-to-use-the-same-drippy,poorly-drawn-monster"'s ass in outrageous non sequiters.
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