To boldly Poll.....

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Originally posted by Gocad:
Grim, the ending of Nemesis was nothing but a very lousy remake of the end from "The Wrath of Khan"...

Really now - they've even got Data's katra running around in B4.

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Originally posted by Gocad:
The Problem is that the DS9 crew is scattered as well. Also, the entire DS9 series was centered around the station and the Dominion problem...

No problem, they could just adapt the relaunch novels. Maybe they could get James Brolin as Commander Vaughn...

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And tonight's episode had Garak, Lursa and Betor (or whatever her name was), and political intigue - oh so good.

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I can't believe anyone could prefer Voyager to DS9. Its like Days of our Lives in space, all that crap with Tom and B'lanna and the will they won't they shit. Then when they actually got together they had entire freakin episodes focused on their whining.

DS9 had freakin great big space battles, breen bioships, shapeshifters. It had a hairy ginger irishman too ugly to be on tv but too unique not to be. It may not reach the profundity that B5 touched but it was a lot closer than any of the other treks.

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are u kidding hulkbuster? there is bugger all action in DS9, it all talking, talking, talking, blarg!
The hairy Irishman? you mean the guy who used to be Transporter chief on TNG?

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Voyager was boring, since it didn't have anything new, compared to the other series. DS9 was one bold step forward, but Voyager was nothing but one huge leap back...

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I do not like any Star Trek show

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Originally posted by Grim:
there is bugger all action in DS9, it all talking, talking, talking, blarg!

Did you WATCH past the first season?

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Nixorbo , I now love you like my first born child and my old granny all at once.

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Originally posted by Grim:
are u kidding hulkbuster? there is bugger all action in DS9, it all talking, talking, talking, blarg!

I take it you haven't watched season 4 and after?

It's a tie between TNG and DS9. TNG had the better captain but DS9 has more action. The crew of TNG wasn't as scattered as the DS9 crew, except for Odo and Quark, they where tight.

If I had to choose one I would choose DS9 because of the superior action (read; Defiant) and the Odo - Quark relationship.

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How'd I miss this thread the first time around? Teral's been getting away with it for months! 

 

Originally posted by kip:
There will be no more TNG based movies according to Paramount. The next Star Trek movie (if any) will most likely be set in the DS9 universe.

There may still be a TNG movie (although it's not ruddy likely, given that Stewart has ruled out doing another one).

Paramount has driven themselves into a fine trap - neither DS9 or Voyager are popular enough (I'm talking outside Trekdom, I know DS9 is uber-popular otherwise  ) to warrant a full-scale film, Enterprise is lagging heavily in the ratings and has a way to go before it's 7 seasons (if it gets that far) are up. There's no viable movie franchise to speak of. The most likely one is for a mixture of TNG, DS9 and Voyager crews.

However, I would like to see at least Janeway demoted to a science Ensign for her atrocious commands post-season 4 Voyager.  (Unfortunately, from what I've heard from Nemesis, she's an Admiral.  ).

Now then. Which is my favourite?

TNG. Despite what many may think, Voyager is not my favourite show. It was close up until about midway through Season 4, when the show turned into "The Seven of Nine Hour". But TNG is consistently brilliant throughout it's run.

Don't get me wrong, I still like Voyager. But it's largely because it was the first Trek show I watched, and I care about the characters the most. I'm not blind enough to recognise the abismal writing in the majority of episodes, however. (Actually, in my opinion, Voyager had plenty of good individual episodes. It's just when you look at the overall arc (or lack of one) you see the problem).

In a way, I'm lucky. I watched the least popular (although Enterprise is desperately trying to pip it to that title) ST show first. Then I watched TNG. And at some point in the future, I'll sit down and watch all of DS9 (having only seen dribs and drabs, it's hard to make a full judgement). So from my point of view it gets better and better. 

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Now that the crews of all the later shows are available it would make sense for the next film to use characters from each of them.

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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
It was close up until about midway through Season 4, when the show turned into "The Seven of Nine Hour".

That's how it was for me, too. Then DS9 started getting really awesome, so I abandoned Voyager about that time.

This week, on Voyager: Seven of Nine gets a bad haircut! Will Ensign Kim still want to get in her pants? Tune in and see! Same Voyager time, same Voyager channel!

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Originally posted by boingo2000:
Hmmm... I've only ever seen eps of TOS and TNG (and the Tribble ep from DS9), and form them, I'll choose TNG.  Not only is Stewart a better actor then Shatner, but Picard's a better captain.  Kirk's a dumb jock.

See the mindless ramblings of someone who's never seen "Generations".

What the hell happened to my avvy?

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TNG for sure. Better characters, better storylines.

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I only watched TNG, DS9, the original series, and SOME Voyager, and TNG is definitly the best out of all of them. DS9 was kickass too, but TNG was kickerasser. Picard and Data own any other crew BY THEMSELVES.

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Originally posted by Wonderbee31:
The Original series all the way.  They had fun, adventure, and just enjoyed blowing the crap out of things.

Wonderbee be logical... I agree, TOS is still my fave Trek (though NEXT GEN and Enterprise I love also). 

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VOYAGER! WOO alll the way. how could you vote next generation, sure, its a close second. Even with patch Stewart (who was incidentally born to play the part of prof xavier in xmen) its not as good. the next generation movies were good yeah, but the series in my mind pales in comparison to voyager. oh and that annoying lady who sits on his left, WHO DELVES UNCONTROLABLY INTO MY MIND! god, i hate her. anyway. i just dont understand how anyone even hinting at sanity can vote deep space 9. Now that was boring. and that werid woman with the strange nose and the chains accross her face. argh! Although the bald captain was fantastic, and the coolest capatin ever, easy.
on another note, were there any voyager movies?

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No. Although the Holodoc (the Enterprise's one, not Voyager's one) did appear in First Contact as a cameo, and Janeway appeared in Nemesis.

And even though it's not strictly a cameo, Ethan Philips (Neelix) appeared as the Maitre'd in First Contact as well. (And Tim Russ as an unamed Vulcan in Generations).

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He wasn't a Vulcan in it, just a human!!
(Check the ears, honky!) 
ZING!

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[Me]Will you forgive a short, sharp, exclaimation?[/Me]

[~FazeShift~]Certainly.[/~FazeShift~]

[Me]DAMN!![/Me]

(~Faze~ is right, of course. I knew that, and yet I fell foul of it. 

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Originally posted by nagrub:
anyway. i just dont understand how anyone even hinting at sanity can vote deep space 9.

That's okay, I have a hard time understanding how anyone appreciating thought-provoking, quality entertainment could ever pick V'Ger over Deep Space Nine.

 

Now that was boring.

No, boring is watching practically the same episode each week, with a little refurbishment and a new Alien-of-the-week, populated by bland, utterly uninteresting characters (except the EMH, he was pretty good) and zero continuity. Honestly, show me one character on V'Ger who have 1/10 the screen presence and multifacetted personality of Dukat and Garak (both supporting characters on DS9). Show me one episode that could even dream about rivalling the likes of "Duet", "In The Pale Moon Light", "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges", "Improbable Cause"/"The Die Is Cast", "The Changing Face Of Evil", "The Visitor", etc in terms of script, acting, direction, characterisation and thoughtprovoking issues.

Now as CyberKnight can attest I actually like quite a few Voyager episodes, but only as individual episodes, so I'm not blind to the ever so rare glimpses of quality the show has.

 

Originally posted by CyberKnight:
How'd I miss this thread the first time around? Teral's been getting away with it for months! 

Hey, I have to keep some of the threads for myself.   

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VOYAGER! WOO alll the way. how could you vote next generation, sure, its a close second. Even with patch Stewart (who was incidentally born to play the part of prof xavier in xmen)

HAHAHAHAHA... oh, you're serious?    I can't understand how anyone can put Voyager above anything, never mind TNG. Post-season 4  all the episodes focused on was either Seven of Nine or some fantastic magical technology that allowed Voyager to combat whatever foe it came across (that episode about the Omega particle- why oh why?!?). Pre-season 4 had some promise but I guess the writers got lazy and just relied on fanboy obsession to keep it going.

TNG will always be the best to me, not least for nostalgia quality, but because it relied on good storytelling and originality. And it defined sci-fi for the nineties.

EDIT- And as mush as I love the X-Men movies, Patrick Stewart was born to play Picard. There's no man on earth who could replace Picard

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I found myself nodding in agreement with Teral.  DS9 had a lot more character development than Voyager ever had, it had a great finale, and made sense overall.  After V'ger turned into the 7 of 9 show, it just went downhill, with most of the characters being set aside, in my opinion.  For me, it was an example of one show not only following its premise, but expanding on it(DS9), and the other show abandoning it's premise, and just going for the kewl story of the week(V'ger).  That's not to say that I didn't find any individual eps of V'ger interesting,I did, I just didn't think that the overall series was worthy of the legacy that it was following behind.