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DrThunder88

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« Reply #80 on: 07-31-2003 21:37 »

 
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Originally posted by OC_James:
Home Alone 4: Alone in the Hood-
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THE END.

That's the worst movie I've never seen, and I haven't seen some horrible movies.
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #81 on: 07-31-2003 21:40 »

I thought Home Alone 4 thing was a joke, I guess not:
 http://us.imdb.com/Title?0329200

I wish it was a joke. frown
OC_James

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« Reply #82 on: 07-31-2003 21:52 »
« Last Edit on: 07-31-2003 21:52 »

That's a different version HJS. Try linking to the version with Rory Culkin.

It's better than one would think.
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #83 on: 08-01-2003 15:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
 Aren't you at least going to mention the blatant Saint Crispin's Day speech ripoff?


Guh?
DrThunder88

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« Reply #84 on: 08-01-2003 22:50 »

 
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Originally posted by homerjaysimpson:
I thought Home Alone 4 thing was a joke, I guess not:
 http://us.imdb.com/Title?0329200

I wish it was a joke. frown

It was a joke, just not the good kind of joke that makes you laugh.  It was one of those jokes that makes you realize how precious life is...and how much of it you just wasted.
Gocad

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« Reply #85 on: 08-02-2003 10:30 »
« Last Edit on: 08-03-2003 00:00 »

       
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Originally posted by homerjaysimpson:
I thought Home Alone 4 thing was a joke, I guess not:
 http://us.imdb.com/Title?0329200

I wish it was a joke.        frown
It's the kind of joke that makes you wish that there would be Capital Punishment for making these kind of movies...        no no

I know I demanded this before, but so far nothing has happened.
Why is nobody listening to me? Why?      cry

       
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Originally posted by OC_James:
That's a different version HJS. Try linking to the version with Rory Culkin.
It's better than one would think.

Huh? Move on, nothing to see here!!!

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Originally posted by OC_James:
It's better than one would think.
This sentence should have made me think...
Damn!
OC_James

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« Reply #86 on: 08-02-2003 13:39 »

(Laughs hysterically at everyone who actually looked up stuff)
Australian Guy

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« Reply #87 on: 08-02-2003 14:53 »

I like ronin too.

I like films that are depressing and flunked at the box office, But only when i m depressed and flunking  big grin like Battlefield earth and the cable guy.

Oh and everything outta hollywood is overrated, they are on purpose.
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« Reply #88 on: 08-02-2003 14:55 »

I saw Ronin late night on a fuzzy station I was picking up via antenna.  I lost interst toward the end, but I liked most of it.
Just Chris

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« Reply #89 on: 08-02-2003 16:45 »

Glad I never even heard of Home Alone 4, probably because it was a TV-movie.

Overrated: Titanic. Since it did make over a million bux worldwide you can't call it over-hyped.
Also overrated: Star Wars Episode I

Underrated: K-Pax
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #90 on: 08-02-2003 17:30 »

Titanic, definitely overrated, as in hiting you over the head with a sledgehammer overrated.

Underrated movie would be Exorcist 3
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #91 on: 08-02-2003 22:51 »

Overrated: Titanic, Life is Beautiful,Attack of the Clones, Spider Man, A Beautiful Mind
Underrated: In the Name of the Father,Mallrats, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Hayao Miyazaki's movies, Memento
FishyJoe

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« Reply #92 on: 08-03-2003 02:18 »

Underrated: Problem Child 3.
Gocad

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« Reply #93 on: 08-03-2003 05:54 »
« Last Edit on: 08-03-2003 05:54 »

 
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Originally posted by OC_James:
(Laughs hysterically at everyone who actually looked up stuff)

note to self: Find and capture OC_James and force him to watch all "Home Alone" Movies over and over again...  big grin

Australian Guy

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« Reply #94 on: 08-03-2003 06:31 »

Attack of the clones was definatley not worth sitting in line for Six hours till midnight...
FishyJoe

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« Reply #95 on: 08-03-2003 09:37 »

What movie is, really? You're not supposed to wait in line for several days for the movie. You do it for the experience of being a huge nerd.
Just Chris

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« Reply #96 on: 08-03-2003 17:51 »

Underrated: Kung Pow - Enter the Fist, and Miyazaki's movies.
The Names Nick

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« Reply #97 on: 08-03-2003 18:12 »
« Last Edit on: 08-03-2003 18:12 »

 
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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
 That's the worst movie I've never seen, and I haven't seen some horrible movies.

heh, you must not have seen Hariet the Spy then. Hariet the Spy was the worst movie I ever had to sit though. The movie was so bad I got a migraine watching it an threw up later as a result.   mad
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« Reply #98 on: 08-04-2003 16:00 »

I don't think Bonfire of the Vanities gets enough respect.  But I probably stand alone on that.
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« Reply #99 on: 08-04-2003 17:51 »

Underrated - Blow, Fear and loathing in las vegas, Super Troopers, City Of The Lost Children, Maverick
SpacemanSpiff

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« Reply #100 on: 08-04-2003 18:08 »

underrated: brother by takeshi kitano.

hail seitan

Ekarderif

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« Reply #101 on: 02-26-2004 02:42 »

I probably am going to be flamed about this but... Overrated: Citizen Kane
Blackadder11

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« Reply #102 on: 02-26-2004 02:54 »

Underrated-The Blues Brothers.
eggsandwich

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« Reply #103 on: 02-26-2004 02:57 »
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Ekarderif, No you wont - I've also heard so much about it, but it all boils down to your taste in films. I thought it was alright, but it surely wasnt the best movie I've seen.

I'll have to agree with Wolverine; Super Troopers is definetly underrated.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #104 on: 02-26-2004 03:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
Hoo boy... here's my list of overrated movies:
American Beauty
The Big Lebowski
Carrie
Cast Away
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Dawn of the Dead
Dogma
The Exorcist
Reservoir Dogs
Saving Private Ryan
The Silence of the Lambs
The Usual Suspects


No way! Carrie rocks! the silence of the lambs is a cool film, better than hannibal by far.
The big lebowski cracked me up and castaway was a good film ,although I don't watch it much.

Overrated : ET , 2001: a space film with a boring ending.

underated : Last action hero - hey, he rips on his on persona! can't fault that   laff
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #105 on: 02-26-2004 04:31 »

I just saw battle Royale 2.

Sucked.  Balls.

I'll go into detail alter, in a post edit.  Keep your eyes peeled.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #106 on: 02-26-2004 11:25 »

 
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Originally posted by nerdlingus:
underated : Last action hero - hey, he rips on his on persona! can't fault that    laff
I liked it too, or at least thought it wasn't nearly as bad as people said.  I'm not sure why it's so widely disliked, but I saw a review or two that actually reviewed the movie within the movie instead of the movie itself: "Women are objectified!"  Uh, that's a comment on the movie industry in general.  Could it be they just didn't understand the movie?
The Comedy Bee

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« Reply #107 on: 02-26-2004 15:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Ekarderif:
I probably am going to be flamed about this but... Overrated: Citizen Kane
Citizen Kane is definately overrated. It's been at the top of the official ten best movies of all time list since like 1950 which is just ridiculous.

The most underrated film ever is The Cable Guy.

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« Reply #108 on: 02-26-2004 18:02 »

I think Payback and Grosse Pointe Blank are underrated, I do!! :wow:  big grin  tongue

Ok, that was way too excited...
Gorky

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« Reply #109 on: 02-26-2004 18:32 »

Well actually, Citizen Kane was never that great a hit with audiences, but as time went on, it became well-liked by the critics.
I've never actually seen the film, but it must be worth ripping off, because some episodes of The Simpsons (i.e. "Two Cars in Every Garage and Three Eyes on Every Fish" ) have a parody of the movie every 3 seconds.
SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #110 on: 03-01-2004 01:35 »

 
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Originally posted by bankrupt:
Water phobic alien invaders overlook the fact that Earth is mostly covered in water.  Marvelous.

Wow, H.G. and Orson Welles' estates didn't sue for a clear rip-off, albeit a small tweak, of the ending of "War Of The Worlds"?

AND (GRRRR!):
 
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Originally posted by The Comedy Bee:Citizen Kane is definately overrated. It's been at the top of the official ten best movies of all time list since like 1950 which is just ridiculous.

 
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Originally posted by Ekarderif:
I probably am going to be flamed about this but... Overrated: Citizen Kane

BLASHPHEMER! BLASPHEMER TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF IFINITY POSSIBLE!

OBVIOUSLY you people don't realize that almost Everything Orson Welles did in that was GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE TIME PERIOD IN WHICH THAT MOVIE WAS MADE. That's why it's THE BEST MOVIE EVER MADE.

Ignorance of history destroys the present.

Ranting over. Almost. I half-apologize for my ego getting the better of me in the next few lines.

Overrated: Mystic River
UNDERRESPECTED: Matrix 2 AND 3

C'mon, if ANY of those movies were Anime, they'd be fanboy gobble-up gold, and no one would be dissing them! The Wachowskis just happened to be the first people to make a live-action movie with an anime-style plot.
Apparently filming 3 movies (the 3rd was the script and scenes for the game-and yes, the game was below average, but it wasn't dren either...) and all of this stuff was written from the heads of the Brothers...they had no book to lean on when in trouble. Now that's a feat in itself. Kudos to ol' pete jackson, lotr was a much more massive undertaking, but considering the Wachowskis did about the same with a script written from all ideas in their head, that's impressive.

Course, since almost NONE of you have had any experience in acting, I would ask you if you knew what good acting is. True, some movies are plain terrible and don't need an insider to see their dismal failure-*cough*Gigli*cough*-but I ask you this: Could you have replaced Keanu Reeves? No automatic "duh, no shit I could have" answers either. I don't believe so. Actors listen to the director, so you would been directed to give exactly the same kind of performance. Don't knock the profession until you've been inside the building. 

And also: Could YOU have handled the pressure of making 3 movies at once - Assembling the cast and casting ALL the extras (remember, there were 1,000 extras for the Zion dance scene alone, ALL had to be hand-picked by the Wachowskis from a cattle call of probably about 2,000-3,000 people), assembling the art direction crew, the stunt crew, the musical crew, the post-production crew, the costume design crew, the pre-production crew, makeup crew, catering crew, the editing crew, the special effects crew, the cinemetography crew, ORGANIZING TRANSPORTATION TO THE FILMING LOCATIONS IN CALIFORNIA AND AUSTRALIA, COORDINATING ALL OF THOSE CREWS TO MAKE THE FILMS, budgeting nearly $300 million dollars evenly over every nook and cranny of every department of these 3 movies, making sure you have all the equipment you have when you need it and that it's working when you need it, getting the cast through 8 months of more martial arts training, writing the 3 scripts and getting copies to everyone every day of filming, AND, to top it off, directing these movies at the same time - and getting those 3 movies out by the scheduled release dates? I highly doubt it.

So the point of this rant is:

1. I'm pissed off for some unknown reason;
2. People don't share my views;
3. I'm a matrix fanatic;
4. Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions were not the wallowing-in-shit movies they were reviewed to be, and I won't stop defending them until SOMEONE else admits it.

"Gigli," "Cat In The Hat," and "Charlie's Angels 2" are the movies that reside at the wallowing-in-shit level.

Have fun in the crapper.

End of rant. I mean it this time.

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Ranadok

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« Reply #111 on: 03-01-2004 02:47 »

Never fear, Ranadok agrees with you!  The last two Matrices (I count the video game more as part of the second movie, there isn't enough new story in it to count as a movie on its own) were by no means as bad as most people make them out to be. Sure, they weren't great movies, but I don't feel like it was a waste of time/money to see it, and will be buying the DVD for Revolutions when it comes out.  I kinda don't like the Wachowski brothers, though. They didn't appear at all on either of the DVD special features for the first two, which really smacks of snobbery for filmmakers as inexperienced as they are. Oh, I think you seem to be playing up their importance in the movie. Was it any more than writer/directors of any other films?  One overrated movie, however, is the first Matrix moive.  It was good, but not THAT good. It looks a lot better compared to the sequels, but even before they came out, people still considered it to be the best thing anyone ever did in the history of humanity. Of course, that all made the sequels seem that much worse compared to the apparant perfection of the first.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #112 on: 03-01-2004 03:41 »

 
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Originally posted by Blackadder11:
Underrated-The Blues Brothers.

One of the best  smile  I've been watching this since my ol' dear first let me watch when I was around 10-11yrs, I still got and listen to the soundtrack to this day, the sequel doesn't even come close! It might be underrated but its got the next best thing, a cult following!  tongue

An overrated film which I watched this weekend was Apocalypse Now, don't get me wrong, its a good film, brilliantly wierd but I couldn't come to any conclusion when the credits rolled, good but not that good  tongue
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« Reply #113 on: 03-01-2004 03:53 »
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@ Slay:

A. The whole "you can't judge is because you've never done it!" stuff is complete and utter crap. Movie are a performance art, and performances are all about audiences -- without us, the audience, movies would be nothing. As the intended recipient of the movie-makers' efforts, we have every right to judge the quality, or lack thereof, of what we are shown.

For example, you've never been President of the US, but I don't see you refraining from criticising the actions of Bush and his administration. Could YOU have handled all the pressure of running a nation of over 300 million people, dealing with the international community, setting US policy, making decsions that affect the lives of millions of Americans? I highly doubt it. Don't knock the profession until you've been inside the White House.

B. The scale of the undertaking is no reflection of its quality. As anyone who's seen Ishtar, The Phantom Menace, Waterworld or any other high-profile, high-cost bomb can tell you, the numbers on a movie's price tag do not necessarily translate into greatness. It's great that the Watchowskis tried to pull off something this big; that doesn't mean we have to accept the final product with no reservations.

If the Watchowskis attempted something huge and failed, we should be honest about it -- not complain about how hard it was, and how we critics couldn't do any better. It's not our job to do them one better -- they're the filmmakers, not us. They're every bit as capable as the rest of us to fail, and it's no crime for people to point it out when they do.
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« Reply #114 on: 03-01-2004 20:18 »
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I was just annoyed that they didn't get any nominations at all, they at least deserved one...I happened to go on a rant...don't forgive me.

EDIT: They failed? It seemed to me those movies accomplished exactly what they set out to do, and that was to trace the path of the war between humans and machines, and how Neo's journey fit into that path.


EDIT II: Damn you, Lan, for that Presidential analogy. Damn you for making a good point that shot down my whole argument.   tongue I need to pay more attention in Writing 122...
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LAN.gnome

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« Reply #115 on: 03-01-2004 21:34 »

 
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
EDIT: They failed? It seemed to me those movies accomplished exactly what they set out to do, and that was to trace the path of the war between humans and machines, and how Neo's journey fit into that path.

I concede that this is purely a matter of opinion; in saying that "they failed" I meant it in the sense that the general public's reaction was mostly one of disappointment. Obviously, each viewer's experience will vary.

 
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
EDIT II: Damn you, Lan, for that Presidential analogy. Damn you for making a good point that shot down my whole argument.    tongue I need to pay more attention in Writing 122...

Thanks for the compliment; I was surprised that I even came up with it myself.  tongue
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« Reply #116 on: 03-03-2004 16:57 »

 
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
 I was just annoyed that they didn't get any nominations at all, they at least deserved one...I happened to go on a rant...don't forgive me.

It is kinda sad they didn't even get one nomination, but who really gives a shit what anyone else thinks anyway? Their opinions won't change yours in the long run, unless you're a sheep and follow. So it doesn't really matter anyway. I enjoyed all three films, and so did you, that's what matters.

nerdlingus

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« Reply #117 on: 03-05-2004 04:12 »

 
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Originally mentioned in a big post by LAN.gnome:
Waterworld .


I thought this movie was pretty cool, the critics slated it but I was still watching!  tongue
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #118 on: 03-05-2004 06:49 »

Waterworld was watchable, and I kept watching too.
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« Reply #119 on: 03-06-2004 02:35 »

Under-rated: 'The Hills have eyes' and 'The Virgin Spring'*

Over-rated: 'Driller Killer' - I was totally psyched to see this a few years ago, a dissapointment. It may have been one of the early films (mainstream wise) that started the whole "video nasty" era - but it surely wasnt the best.

*aka 'Jungfrukällan'
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