Teen Titians

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BOOO!

If that Toon Topia thing is not realted to Teen Titans, then why put it there in the first place?

Oh well.

[Reply #281 on:]

maybe it's a surprise thing - more than likely it's a stupid promo thing for some other show...

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"Employee of the Month" review:

Ah....finally, some blatant Matrix references!

That was an awesome episode. A plot as stupid and weird as any 50's B movie, FLCL references, a score just as cheesily overbombastic as any B-movie.... and space tofu.

and, like I supsected, BB got his moped - but only for a while...

That ep rocked.

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Cyborg The Barbarian

This episode kinda dissapointed me. It felt a little anti climactic in the end. It would've been funny if they did include an Army Of Darkness refrence, but change the line a little.

Warrior: What is that contraption on your arm, warrior?

Cyborg: THIS IS MY BOOM CANNON!

*Random anime-like flames surround him.*

All in all though, could've been better. I think it needed to show the other Titans to even it out a little.

Grade:C+

Positives
-Battle scenes were pretty cool
-That little bit at the end was clever

Negatives
-Final battle was anti-climatic
-Other Titans decended to breif cameos
-No Army Of Darkness refrences

Employee Of The Month

Now this was a fun ride! From the opening to the end, this was awesome! Definately the best episode of season 4 (so far). I loved the bombastic action music and the animation was top notch. By the way, did anyone notice the Akira refrence when the chamber opened up to reveal the "Ultimate"(*snicker, snicker)Villain? It looked exactly like the scene when the Chamber in Akira was being destroyed. Anyway, the ending was the best part, when BB was riding the Moped and he was blasting away at the Bob clones. Who knew a cheesy (but great) science fiction plotline need John Woo style gunplay with water guns? Overall, an Excellent Episode!

Grade:A

Positives
-Beast Boy Kicking Ass in his Moped.
-The Flying Saucer chase sequences were awesome.
-Bob messing up BB's name.
-The Villian Reveal Scene
-The Simplicity of shutting down the spaceship.
-Funny Raven One-Liners ("We're being invaded by cows?" )
-The End with the cows, and the ultimate fate of the Villian.

Negatives
-What Negatives? This Episode ROCKED!

[Reply #284 on:]

Yeah, Employee of the Month was awesome. Too bad we're not gettin' any new season 4 eps for a while. Stupid CN scheduling...

[Reply #285 on:]

I finally got to see "Employee of the Month" yesterday, after missing it the first two times.  It was worth the wait.

The FLCL references were pretty predictable this time, but the Battle of the Planets reference was a nice surprise.

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I have only seen one half of a Teen Titans episode (they've dubbed it, so I cannot be arsed to watch it) BUT! I have a question: What is Robin doing there? That makes no sense.

[Reply #287 on:]

I would wait for David A to explain it more throughouly, but Robin was one of the original members of DC's Teen Titans. The line-up of the show is a homage to the most popular line-up of the comic book.

As for "why is Robin a member," I would assume that all teen sidekicks go through some time at the Teen Titans before becoming a "real" superhero. Earlier in the series, Aqualad and Speedy are shown as members, and they are the sidekicks of Aquaman and Green Arrow, respectively. I suppose that, at some point, it wasn't fashionable for grown men to have costumed sidekicks, so the sidekicks got their own team, so to speak.

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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
I have only seen one half of a Teen Titans episode (they've dubbed it, so I cannot be arsed to watch it) BUT! I have a question: What is Robin doing there? That makes no sense.

Robin was an original member of the first version of the Teen Titans comic back in the 60's. The TV show's characters - and a few storylines/arcs - are from and loosely based on the second incarnation of the Teen Titans series that was written by Marv Wolfman and drawn by George Perez, "The New Teen Titans" - of which Robin is also a member.
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So I'll assume that the Robin character concept was just snagged from the Batman universe, and had all ties severed, so this TT Robin is not the same Robin... Because as far as I know, Robin was a circus acrobat until he met Bruce Wayne. And when he met Bruce Wayne... You know...

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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
So I'll assume that the Robin character concept was just snagged from the Batman universe, and had all ties severed, so this TT Robin is not the same Robin...

It's the same Robin.

 

Because as far as I know, Robin was a circus acrobat until he met Bruce Wayne. And when he met Bruce Wayne... You know...

I know, but it doesn't seem like you do.  Read this, please.

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Well, that's a pretty easy way out. "It's part-time this, part time that. Yeah, that sounds solid enough"... Was this written by the creator of Dick Grayson (was that Bob Kane, too?)?

Another thing: Having only watched less than an episode of the new TT, I might have been mislead by the way they've drawn him to resemble a prepubescent child rather than a teenager. Well, I guess that's just the anime way.

(also, that site was made by a five year-old)

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The Robin in the Teen Titans comics is the same Robin from the Batman universe...However, on the sake of the show, all the characters are separate entities from their comic book counterparts, though they do stick nods in from time to time (Robin is forced to steal from a Wayne Enterprises building in "Apprentice, part 2," Gotham City and Metropolis have both been mentioned in passing in various episodes, etc...)

The character design of Robin in the show is more similar to the model of Tim Drake (the second Robin, after Grayson leaves to become Nightwing) that was used on the Batman animated series near the end of its run (http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/batman/bios/heroes/robintim/.)

However, Murakami has said that he won't say for sure if Robin on the Teen Titans show is supposed to be Drake or Grayson, and that everyone should just follow the official statement that he should be viewed as just a separate Robin altogether.

More info on the development of the show can be found here: ( http://www.titanstower.com/source/animated/behind.html ). You're gonna want to read the link marked "Drawing Inspiration: An Interview with Glen Murakami" first, it explains the most.

Oh, and Pikka? I don't think Bill's gonna be happy to hear someone thinks his site was designed by a five-year old....

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Well, I seem to have spotted somewhere that Robin and Nightwing are both in the TT-shebang somewhere, so I'll assume that it's not Grayson's Robin. Unless the new TT is a more far-reaching rehaul of the concept. But I don't know much about it, as already stated.
I did stumble upon loads of different incarnations of Raven, including all grown-up versions and evil demon versions, and that confused me. Can anyone briefly go over the key points in her storyline?

About the TitansTower.com website being poorly designed: Well, this Bill character could at least learn not to use a friggin' background image to create pretty borders on the pages. That'll only work with the same resolution as he uses on his monitor, and therefore, it is the worst idea ever. Learn some CSS, Bill!

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"The New Teen Titans" - the 80's comic series, and the one the current animated show draws its characters, a few storyline, and inspirations from - was the second version of the DC comic series "The Teen Titans," which started like back in the 60's. There is a third incarnation of this series that came out after the animated show got so popular, along with the comic series "Teen Titans GO!", which is the companion comic to the animated show.

The Teen Titans of the animated show are completely different from the Teen Titans of the 80's comics, save for some of their most basic characteristics and personalities. Raven has no magic powers in the comics, and I actually find her to be a whiny bitch most of the time.

There is no all-grown Raven in the animated show. I'm guessing what you saw is just the pictures of Raven from the 80's comics. Now, her storyline is kinda complicated - but for a hella brief synopsis, here goes:

She's the daughter of the demon Trigon and a human woman, Arella. The evil demon version of her you came across is from the story arc "The Terror of Trigon," where she finally succumbs to the demonic side of her nature and brings Trigon to Earth from his dimension. Having fallen to his influence, she naturally takes on an appearance similar to his - red skin, four eyes, etc. That should explain it for you.

The main story arc of this new season of the animated show is their adaption of the Terror of Trigon arc, but considering how much the show chaged around the Judas Contract story arc from the comics in their adaption of that in season 2, expect the show's adaption of the Trigon arc to be much different from the comics'.

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Originally posted by RavenStar:
The character design of Robin in the show is more similar to the model of Tim Drake (the second Robin, after Grayson leaves to become Nightwing) that was used on the Batman animated series near the end of its run (http://wf.toonzone.net/WF/batman/bios/heroes/robintim/.)

However, Murakami has said that he won't say for sure if Robin on the Teen Titans show is supposed to be Drake or Grayson, and that everyone should just follow the official statement that he should be viewed as just a separate Robin altogether.

I really don't understand why it would be any Robin other than Dick Grayson.  The show is based on the Wolfman/Perez comics from the 80s, and Dick Grayson was the only Robin in the Titans then.  In fact, Dick Grayson was the only Robin who was ever a member of the Titans, until the current Titans series which started after the show had already aired.

Also, Tim Drake was the third Robin, not the second.

 

Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
Well, I seem to have spotted somewhere that Robin and Nightwing are both in the TT-shebang somewhere, so I'll assume that it's not Grayson's Robin.

The only time that Nightwing appeared on the show was when Starfire was sent into the future.  In the future, Robin had become Nightwing.  They are the same character.

 

Originally posted by RavenStar:
Raven has no magic powers in the comics, and I actually find her to be a whiny bitch most of the time.

She has magic powers; they just don't include telekinesis.  I agree with you on the whiny bitch part.

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Technically, Jason Todd WAS a Titan for like a week.

And, one thing I have to give Geoff Johns credit for is actually starting to give Raven a personality.

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I tuned out of Geoff's series around the Titans Tomorrow saga. It's just been bland forever. I've more been reading the Teen Titans GO! comic by J. Torres that's the companion to the animated show instead. I liked Geoff's expansion of Arella's backstory, but I haven't really been impressed with much else in his series.

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Originally posted by Kryten:
Technically, Jason Todd WAS a Titan for like a week.

I don't think he was an official member.  Either way, it doesn't really matter now; he's dead.

 

Originally posted by RavenStar:
I tuned out of Geoff's series around the Titans Tomorrow saga.

I read about that on Titans Tower.  How many different futures do the Titans have now, anyway?  They're getting as bad as the X-Men.

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I don't know. All I know is that it was an interesting concept, but a horrible delivery of such concept.

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I'm sure someone has already answered this, but...when are is the rest of season 4 going to air?

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mid-april appears to be when the next new episode of Season 4 will air. It looks like they've changed the schedule so that the "The End" finale saga runs during May sweeps.

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Ok I am little confused. Being more of a Marvel fan I am still not clear on all of DC's comings and goings (well except the vertigo range). Anyway are these Titans based on pre crisis characters or post crisis?

Also I seem to remeber that a few years ago there was a whole hubbub of Robin (Tim Drake) startign to date Raven. I maybe getting confused but I am sure that happened.

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Ok I am little confused. Being more of a Marvel fan I am still not clear on all of DC's comings and goings (well except the vertigo range). Anyway are these Titans based on pre crisis characters or post crisis?

Short answer: Pre-Crisis.

Long answer: The show is based on the New Teen Titans comic book series by Marv Wolfman and George Perez, which began in 1980 (pre-Crisis).  The series continued through Crisis (1985-1986) and beyond.  For the most part, the Titans were unchanged by Crisis.  (Wonder Girl and Kid Flash were affected, but they don't appear on the show.)

For more info, go to  http://titanstower.com .

 

Also I seem to remeber that a few years ago there was a whole hubbub of Robin (Tim Drake) startign to date Raven. I maybe getting confused but I am sure that happened.

I can't help you there.  I'm guessing that would have to have been in the current Teen Titans series, so maybe Kryten or RavenStar would know.

I do know that Raven once thought that she was in love with Dick Grayson, but Starfire helped her to understand that her feelings for him were platonic.  (This was after the defeat of Trigon, when Raven had stopped supressing her emotions for the first time.)

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Thanks David. I am affraid most of my DC knowledge extends to Sandman.

So when did Crisis happen?

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
So when did Crisis happen?

From April 1985 to March 1986.  It was a twelve issue limited series.

[Reply #306 on:]

What exactly is Crisis?
I've heard of it before...I'm guessing it was some sort of huge event.

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I should have known that someone would ask.

Basically, Crisis on Infinite Earths was an attempt by DC Comics to clean up fifty years worth of continuity and simplify the DC universe.  Rather than try to explain it myself, I'll provide links to some helpful pages.

First, you should know why DC felt that this was necessary.  Then you'll want to know what happened.

If those pages don't completely satisfy your curiosity, I can direct you to a site with more information on the Crisis than you probably would ever want to know.

Worlds lived, worlds died, and nothing was ever the same again.

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Thanks alot David those sites are really useful. I really want to get it now but Amazon say it will take 4-6 weeks 

Well hopefully I'll find it in my home town when uni finishs for easter, I also hope Toonami is still showing Teen Titans so I can see more of it.

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Considering there will be a season 5, you can bet they'll be showing more of it.

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Just a minor note, there's gonna be a TT marathon tomorrow from 12 noon-4:30 pm on Cartoon Network. Sadly, no new eps for a while.

God, I wanna murder the douchebags who do these schedules for Cartoon Network....

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So, they schedule a four-and-a-half hour marathon of Teen Titans, and you want to murder them?

Me, I kinda like marathons.  Plus, I finally got to see "Titans East" (both parts).  Now I just have to see "Crash" and I'll be all caught up.

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No, I want to murder them because they'll be showing repeats until late April when they should be showing Season 4. They showed the first four episodes of Season 4, then suddenly started this repeats-through-spring nonsense. They've done it before - there was a sudden stupid hiatus from November to January before "Bunny Raven or How To Make A Titananimal Disappear" and the rest of Season 3 finally aired, and they cut off Season 2 in like April 2004 before like the last 3 epsides of that season had aired and didn't show those until August. It's really pissing me off. It's worse than the odd gaps in the seasons that went on with "Farscape"...

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They probably did it so that they'd have some new episodes left for May sweeps.

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Well, yeah, I noted that a page or two back in this thread - but still, it's annoying as hell.

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According to the TitansTower animated show page ( http://titanstower.com/source/animated/00indexanimated.html ), Teen Titans - most likely the 80's comics versions instead of the show's versions - will be in an upcoming episode of "Robot Chicken."

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nope, I've been told the TT parody on "Robot Chicken" is on the one tonight and is of the animated show' Titans.

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here's 58 screens from said "Robot Chicken" parody:
 http://ravenstar.crystallizedstudios.com/AMV/RavenStar-RobotChicken-TeenTitansParodyGrabs.zip

[Reply #318 on:]

Oh jesus, another FryfanspyOrama.

Kill it before it gets ravies!!!

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Sorry, I'm beyond the cure.

Anyway, those RC parody screens are now up on tgn: http://titansgo.net/screenshots.php?ep=002