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PEE Poll: Best Old-school cartoon studio
Warner Bros. (Bugs, Daffy, Porky, etc.)   -17 (70.8%)
Disney (Mickey, Donald, etc.)   -1 (4.2%)
MGM (Tom & Jerry, Droopy, etc.)   -5 (20.8%)
Fleischer/Paramount (Popeye)   -1 (4.2%)
Walter Lantz (Woody Woodpecker)   -0 (0%)
Famous Studios (Casper)   -0 (0%)
UPA (Mr. Magoo)   -0 (0%)
Other   -0 (0%)
Total Voters: 24

Kryten

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« on: 07-01-2003 02:03 »

Which cartoon studio put out the best classic cartoons?

ShineFusion

Professor
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« Reply #1 on: 07-01-2003 02:17 »

Gotta loooove Bugs and Marvin the Martian
winna

Avatar Czar
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« Reply #2 on: 07-01-2003 02:41 »

Definately WB as the best pick of those...
alexvilagosh

Goose Patrol
Space Pope
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« Reply #3 on: 07-01-2003 05:07 »

WB gets it!
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #4 on: 07-01-2003 09:03 »

Disney, but specifically the Donald Duck shorts.  Goofy's also okay, but Mickey and Pluto are REALLY boring.
planetcutie

Bending Unit
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« Reply #5 on: 07-01-2003 09:07 »

Tex Avery's MGM ones were the best IMHO - Screwy Squirrel especially.
mads

Bending Unit
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« Reply #6 on: 07-01-2003 09:18 »

MGM i love Tom & Jerry. They have allso the rights for The Pink Panther, beacuse they own United Artists.

Dr_Dave

Bending Unit
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« Reply #7 on: 07-01-2003 11:42 »

In the 1930's, Disney was the best by a wide margin. 

In the 1940's and 50's, Warner was clearly the best.  MGM and UPA may have won more Oscars, but Warner had the best cartoons. 
newhook_1

Urban Legend
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« Reply #8 on: 07-01-2003 13:14 »

I like warner Bros. but I gotta go with popeye.
Zed 85

Space Pope
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« Reply #9 on: 07-01-2003 13:28 »

It really is a tie between WB and MGM but I feel I must go MGM, if only for the Cambooooooooo episode of Tom & Jerry  big grin
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #10 on: 07-01-2003 14:09 »

Awesome idea for a poll, and I love a lot of those old studios, but it's gotta WB for me. So many classic cartoons  cool
ghoulishmoose

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« Reply #11 on: 07-01-2003 14:37 »

Even though I love WB, I gotta go with MGM. Tom and Jerry rules! I've seen every single episode of the Fred Quimby directed ones. They started going downhill when the new eps were made. But the old Tom and Jerry was the best. They're the  classics and so funny and I could watch them over and over without getting bored with them. Tom and Jerry all the way!  big grin
Tweek

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« Reply #12 on: 07-01-2003 14:46 »

I had to go with Warner Bros, I think I watched their stuff most as a child.
boingo2000

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« Reply #13 on: 07-01-2003 15:18 »

WB.  Chuck Jones was a genius!
Dr_Dave

Bending Unit
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« Reply #14 on: 07-01-2003 17:19 »

 
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Originally posted by ghoulishmoose:
Even though I love WB, I gotta go with MGM. Tom and Jerry rules! I've seen every single episode of the Fred Quimby directed ones. They started going downhill when the new eps were made. But the old Tom and Jerry was the best. They're the  classics and so funny and I could watch them over and over without getting bored with them. Tom and Jerry all the way!   big grin


I've got some bad news for you.  Fred Quimby never directed an animated cartoon.  He was the producer, an executive whom MGM appointed to run the animation studio in 1937, and by all accounts he was a humorless corporate drone.  All of the Tom & Jerry cartoons produced before 1959 were directed by Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera.

P.S. I like Tom & Jerry, too, but Bugs rules!
M Jackson
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« Reply #15 on: 07-01-2003 17:44 »
« Last Edit on: 07-01-2003 17:44 »

How can I choose between, Disney, WB, Fred Quimby's Tom and Jerry cartoons, and Tex Avery!? They're all too great! Maybe I'll go for WB as I love the old Roadrunner and Wilie Cyote cartoons. But I honestly can't pick just one!
Actually this is one of the reasons I love the film Who Framed Roger Rabbit so much, as Spielberg and Zemeckis managed to get the rights to have characters from Disney and WB (and others) appear in the same film.
I love the scene with Donald Duck fighting Daffy on the piano.
Daffy "This is the last time I work with a guy with a spppppeech impediment!"
ZombieJesus

Lost Belgian
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« Reply #16 on: 07-01-2003 17:50 »

Disney is lame, so are Mr Magoo and Casper.

I like WB, esp. Roadrunner and Wilie Coyote. Most Tom & Jerry cartoons are good, though there is a series of really crappy ones with lame music and retarted animation.
M Jackson
Professor
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« Reply #17 on: 07-01-2003 17:54 »

Look for Fred Quimby's name on the opening credits for Tom and Jerry, if it ain't there, turn off!
Without his involvement you get results like Tom and Jerry The Movie, when they talked!
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooo! Just thinking about it makes me sad!
PCC Fred

Space Pope
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« Reply #18 on: 07-01-2003 18:03 »

 
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Originally posted by boingo2000:
WB.  Chuck Jones was a genius!

'Nuff said.  smile
ghoulishmoose

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« Reply #19 on: 07-01-2003 18:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Dr_Dave:
 
I've got some bad news for you.  Fred Quimby never directed an animated cartoon.  He was the producer, an executive whom MGM appointed to run the animation studio in 1937, and by all accounts he was a humorless corporate drone.  All of the Tom & Jerry cartoons produced before 1959 were directed by Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera.


Thanks for that info  smile

I'm sorry for getting that mixed up. I wasn't sure if he was director or producer or what. But I do like the old ones that have his name just before they come on. When it first comes on and its got the MGM lion roaring on the red or blue background, they're the ones I really like. They're older ones. But if it comes on and its got the lion roaring on the black background, they're the newer produced ones and I dont like them as much  smile

Just Chris

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« Reply #20 on: 07-01-2003 23:17 »

 http://jumptheshark.com/t/tomandjerry.htm

There were also the ones from the Snyder era which reached all the way into the early 80's. I didn't like those very much.

Tom & Jerry is a cool show but WB had the best cartoons. The entire WB world was comprised of characters that came together in many original settings. Like Bugs & Daffy. Or Porky & Daffy. Or Porky & Sylvester. The list goes on and on.
Spice Weasel

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« Reply #21 on: 07-02-2003 00:05 »

WB all the way.  However, the original Droopy    was pretty damn funny and underrated.  One of the more violent of the '60's era.  Who was Droopy's nemisis, that wolf thing?  He blew up in some really funny and inventive ways.  laff
Kryten

Space Pope
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« Reply #22 on: 07-02-2003 00:21 »

WB was consistently the best, though no one rellay comes close to matching the sheer anarchic wackiness of Avrey's MGM work.
Dr_Dave

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« Reply #23 on: 07-02-2003 05:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
WB was consistently the best, though no one rellay comes close to matching the sheer anarchic wackiness of Avrey's MGM work.

True.  When discussing Warner Brothers and MGM studios, you're really talking about the individual directors.  Creative control at these studios was in the hands of the directors.  The producers (Leon Schlesinger and Eddie Selzer at Warner; Fred Quimby at MGM) were bureaucrats whose main job was to pester the staff about budgets and production schedules.

A list of Warner directors is like a animation hall of fame:  Chuck Jones, Friz Freleng, Bob Clampett, Tex Avery, Bob McKimson, and Frank Tashlin.

At MGM, Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera gained fame with their Tom and Jerry series, and then went on to found the most successful television animation studio in history.

Tex Avery is one of the most important figures in the history of American animation.  He was a founder of the Warner style of cartoons, and his impact on Hanna and Barbera is clear.
boingo2000

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« Reply #24 on: 07-02-2003 07:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Dr_Dave:
A list of Warner directors is like a animation hall of fame:  Chuck Jones, Friz Freleng, Bob Clampett, Tex Avery, Bob McKimson, and Frank Tashlin.

That's true, although I would argue that Tashlin's greatness did not blossom until later, when he went off to make live-action films.  (ie, Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?, the best $5.99 I've spent on a previously-viewed movie I'd never seen before.)
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #25 on: 07-02-2003 14:32 »
« Last Edit on: 07-02-2003 14:32 »

For just great characters and funny situations, I'd have to go with the Warner character first, followed by the MGM ones.  I guess if you want to go with historical events, the Disney studio tops people in just characters.  However, while Donald, Mickey and the rest were originally animated, I got a better impression and enjoyment of them when I read their comic book adventures.  Floyd Gottfrenson? and Carl Barks actually gave the characters a depth and sense of adventure that was missing from the cartoons.

Warner's, OTOH, especially when Freling and Jones were directing, had more characterization in their shorts, as well as a sense of...fun.
~FazeShift~

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« Reply #26 on: 07-02-2003 15:17 »

Draw between MGM and WB!!
Britz

Starship Captain
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« Reply #27 on: 07-02-2003 23:12 »

Is it even a question? WB! Though MGM had some classics.
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