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PEE Poll: Best comic book to movie
Spiderman   -20 (40%)
X-men   -4 (8%)
Ghost World   -4 (8%)
X2   -8 (16%)
Batman   -11 (22%)
Batman Returns   -1 (2%)
The Hulk   -0 (0%)
Superman   -1 (2%)
Daredevil   -0 (0%)
Superman 2   -1 (2%)
Total Voters: 50

M Jackson
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« Reply #40 on: 07-01-2003 19:14 »

Gollum is truely amazing, but just look at Yoda too!
ShineFusion

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« Reply #41 on: 07-01-2003 21:06 »

Yoda is'nt that great he looked kinda stupid and different to the rubber yoda.

Btw there is such a thing as overdoing it, Ep 2 is an example.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #42 on: 06-29-2004 02:09 »
« Last Edit on: 06-29-2004 02:09 »

First off good Best of poll, but I would've had Superman 1 and 2 as one choice same for X-men and Batman, since they are parts of a fanchise.  I would also would've added Blade and Spawn.

Also, my friend and I have talked about this topic before.  Comics fans hate the movies, because they don't live up to the comics, while people who've never read the comics like the movies, because of the action and story.

We started to wonder, why don't the writers of the comics simply write the screenplay of the movies?  Typically, they get regular screen writers to write the scripts of the movies, and the result is what we get on the screen.  Batman, Spiderman, both are movies, that writers tried to directly base from the comics.  However, why can't hollywood simply hire the comic writers to produce them a script?
Jamesbondcja

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« Reply #43 on: 06-29-2004 11:16 »

I would say either X-2, Spidey or Daredevil. Though future releases such as Elektra, Spidey 2 or the Fantastic 4 may be able to take the title.
Lurrr

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« Reply #44 on: 06-29-2004 15:03 »

 
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We started to wonder, why don't the writers of the comics simply write the screenplay of the movies? Typically, they get regular screen writers to write the scripts of the movies, and the result is what we get on the screen. Batman, Spiderman, both are movies, that writers tried to directly base from the comics. However, why can't hollywood simply hire the comic writers to produce them a script?

Because writing a script for a film is not the same as writing a comic script. Especially since a production company is usually paying a very large sum of money to make these films, and would rather have someone with a good track record with screenplays to do the writing rather than risk that money on someone with no screenwriting experience.

I'm really fed up of all these fans complaining that movie adaptions don't 'live up' to the original comics. Personally I'd rather see an entertaining movie rather than a flawless interpretation of the source material that turns out to be crap.
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« Reply #45 on: 06-29-2004 15:11 »

Spider-Man hands down. Superman? Ecch! The movies weren't that good.Batman movies get boring and that's why they're not making any more.The Hulk was pretty good except for the origin being different.Daredevil was awesome, but not as good as Spider-Man.

fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #46 on: 06-29-2004 15:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
 Because writing a script for a film is not the same as writing a comic script. Especially since a production company is usually paying a very large sum of money to make these films, and would rather have someone with a good track record with screenplays to do the writing rather than risk that money on someone with no screenwriting experience.

I'm really fed up of all these fans complaining that movie adaptions don't 'live up' to the original comics. Personally I'd rather see an entertaining movie rather than a flawless interpretation of the source material that turns out to be crap.

Thanks Lurr for your answer, and I'm one of those fans who has never read any of the comic books and enjoys watching the movies.  However, don't you think it would please comic fans if studios had the comic writers more involved in making the movies?  I don't mean write the script, but review the script before it becomes official.
leelaholic

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« Reply #47 on: 06-29-2004 15:48 »

Spiderman, easily. I've yet to see Spiderman 2 (since it's not out yet), but it looks good.
victor2000
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« Reply #48 on: 06-29-2004 16:11 »

Spiderman, though X2 comes in a strong 2nd.
Lurrr

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« Reply #49 on: 06-29-2004 17:57 »

 
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However, don't you think it would please comic fans if studios had the comic writers more involved in making the movies? I don't mean write the script, but review the script before it becomes official.

A lot of the time they are involved (all the Marvel adaptations list Stan Lee and Avi Arad as executive producers). But even so, I think comic fans would still moan even if the original comics writers were on board. The fan community can't stand any changes to the source material (I mean, what difference does it make as to how Spiderman spins his webs?!?) and with an adaptation that is inevitable. Not all fans are like this of course, but there are a few who I think will never be satisfied, and it's pointless to try. If all the rest of us are enjoying ourselves, screw them!

Also, X-Men 2 is the best!
wu_konguk

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« Reply #50 on: 06-29-2004 18:04 »

The movies simply can not be like the comics simply because they have to be dumbed down. What I mean by that, is that they have to make it simpler simply because the majority of movie goers are not going to know that Wolverine is actually well over 100 years old and even fought in WWII alongside Captain America. comic continuites can get very complex (I got really annoyed with the whole clone thing in Spiderman) as such they have to make changes so that they can chase that all mighty doller.
tom123

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« Reply #51 on: 06-29-2004 18:41 »
« Last Edit on: 06-30-2004 00:00 »

I loved the Spider-Man one, own it on DVD and, AND plan on seeing it tomorrow. Never seen Ghost World, nor do I know what it is... Sure Spider-Man (probably) won't have my favorite villain (Venom) in the third film (due to a long story line) but he is still my all-time favorite superhero. EDIT: And what do you know. My favorite newspaper comic strip does something the day it comes out...
Spacedal11

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« Reply #52 on: 06-29-2004 21:34 »

Spider-Man all the way man! It's my favey comic and I love Tobey Maguire! *Drools at a picture of him*  love I am P-S-Y-C-H-E-D to see Spider-Man 2 2-morrow!  big grin
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« Reply #53 on: 06-30-2004 02:41 »

Hm...I forgot to mention "The Shadow," or "Dick Tracy." or "Nick Fury." I liked those. They weren't perfect - maybe "The Shadow" was about 98% - but I liked them.

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alenacat
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« Reply #54 on: 06-30-2004 05:45 »

I absolutly loved Ghost World but I hear the comic wasn't as good, or didn't mesh or something. I saw both xmen films yesterday but I've never read any of the comics, as for spiderman I think I once read a comic in a doctors waitingroom...not sure. Those were all brilliant though.
Lurrr

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« Reply #55 on: 06-30-2004 09:13 »

 
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The movies simply can not be like the comics simply because they have to be dumbed down.

I wouldn't say that the movies are 'dumbed down'. There's just things that comics do well and things that films do well. You can't have yellow spandex in films because it would look stupid, for example. And what a comic could do over twelve issues a film has to fit into 2 hours, so some things have to be cut even if it's because they add nothing to the plot. Maybe the fans with moan if the producers change something, but their concern is telling the story. No-one wants to watch a boring film full of pointless backstory.
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #56 on: 06-30-2004 11:24 »

American Splendour's pretty good if that counts.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #57 on: 06-30-2004 23:25 »
« Last Edit on: 06-30-2004 23:25 »

I just saw Spider-man 2 and it was great.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #58 on: 06-30-2004 23:57 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
I just saw Spider-man 2 and it was great.

Ditto. The best movie this summer! I love you Tobey Maguire!!!!!!!!!!!! love This is the best movie seauel (besides Tomb Raider 2 & 102 Dalmatians I have too!) and any one who says it sucks can bite my shiney metal ass!  big grin  tongue


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fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #59 on: 07-02-2004 19:25 »

Catwoman is coming up this summer and there was this mock poll as to which other Batman character should get their spin-off movie.  Nightwing, Alfred, Joker and Harley, Batgirl, Commissioner Gordan were on it.
leelaholic

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« Reply #60 on: 07-02-2004 19:43 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
I just saw Spider-man 2 and it was great.
Agreed. It blows all the others away.
EvilLunch

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« Reply #61 on: 07-02-2004 20:09 »

I wasn't sure where I ought to tell this story.. Seeing as the topic of the second is Spiderman 2, I think here would be appropriate. After my Dad and I went to go see it today, this is what he told me.

When my Dad and his friend Rich were in high school, they took a trip up to the Manhattan area. Instead of hanging out at Rockefeller Center, Rich insisted that they take the Mad magazine tour.
Rich was a huge comic/scifi/Mad/etc fan, and was so enthusiastic about it that Dad had to agree. He knew very little about comics.. Enjoyed reading them, but wasn't too obsessive. After the tour, they got a few souveneirs and got in the elevator to go downstairs and out. It stopped a floor below, and a bespectacled man got on. Now, that day, Rich was wearing a Howard The Duck T-Shirt. The man said, to Rich.. "Nice shirt." With a smile. Dad sort of smiled at him, noncommitally. Rich was dead silent. They went down another floor, and the man got off. Rich was stunned, and stammered something to my Dad.
He said, "Come again?"
"Th.. That was Stan Lee..!!" Rich managed.
All that said.. I say Howard the Duck. ...Heheh, or not.. Spiderman 2 definitely trounces the rest. It was beautiful.
David A

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« Reply #62 on: 07-02-2004 20:42 »

Your dad rocks, EL.  He met Nixon and Stan Lee.
tom123

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« Reply #63 on: 07-02-2004 22:39 »

Spider-Man 2 was indeed awesome. What surprised me was that so many people saw his identity. Anyway can't wait till the third!
EvilLunch

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« Reply #64 on: 07-02-2004 23:21 »

My Dad has a lot of celebrity stories. He's lucky ;-; It's case he works at radio stations. You'd be surprised how many people drop by...
Yeah, tom, that struck me too.. I mean.. I wish his aunt were one of them. When she walked out on Petey I felt so bad for him..!
M0le

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« Reply #65 on: 07-03-2004 00:43 »

Spiderman. I can barely remember it and I'll probably forget to see Spiderman 2, but I never liked any of the other crap-fests called superhero movies.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #66 on: 07-03-2004 00:48 »

I actually saw Mr. Stan Lee in the movie. When Doc. Ock first has Aunt May and is knocking the building down. The man that grabs that girl and goes "Get down!" (I think that's what he said) that was Stan. That's cool that I noticed that without someone having to poit it out at me after the 5 time I saw it!
tom123

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« Reply #67 on: 07-03-2004 12:17 »

I have seen Stan Lee make a few other appearances in other Marvel movies also. (besides Spider-Man 2) Like in The Hulk, a pretty cheesy movie, he walks out of the building and I have seen him in some others, just can't remember which.
Mallzie

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« Reply #68 on: 07-03-2004 14:16 »

 
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Originally posted by tom123:
I have seen Stan Lee make a few other appearances in other Marvel movies also. (besides Spider-Man 2) Like in The Hulk, a pretty cheesy movie, he walks out of the building and I have seen him in some others, just can't remember which.

You may (or may not) be interested to know that the man that Mr. Lee walks out with played The Hulk on the original tv show.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #69 on: 07-05-2004 21:00 »
« Last Edit on: 07-05-2004 21:00 »

Interesting. Just how is The Hulk a superhero? I mean he destroys things and I've never seen him do any good. But I've never seen the movie anyways.  hmpf
David A

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« Reply #70 on: 07-05-2004 21:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Mallzie:
 You may (or may not) be interested to know that the man that Mr. Lee walks out with played The Hulk on the original tv show.

Bill Bixby, or Lou Ferrigno?

 
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Originally posted by Spacedal11:
Interesting. Just how is The Hulk a superhero? I mean he destroys things and I've never seen him do any good. But I've never seen the movie anyways.   hmpf

I've never seen the movie either, but didn't he do good things on the TV show?

Also, the Hulk was a member of the Defenders, and I don't think that they would have kept him around if all he did was destroy things.
Shaucker

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« Reply #71 on: 07-05-2004 22:22 »

(looks up to see Daredevil actually made the list)

MUAHAHAHAHAHA

that stupid thing shouldn't count as either a comic or a movie...such a horrible idea
EvilLunch

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« Reply #72 on: 07-06-2004 11:52 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2004 11:52 »

On principle I like the idea of a blind superhero that kicks ass despite/because of the handicap. But seriously though, Daredevil sucks.
Shaucker

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« Reply #73 on: 07-06-2004 12:21 »

Well, people give these superheroes handicaps so there will BE superheroes with handicaps. I hate that, it seems like tampering with creativity. Although I do love Jean-Paul(NorthStar)  in Xmen...probably one of the first openly gay comic characters.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #74 on: 07-06-2004 12:36 »

X-men 2!

Though is it unfair of me to participate in this poll seeing as I haven't actually read any of these comics?

Well, tough, I'm muscling my way in here anyway.  tongue
David A

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« Reply #75 on: 07-06-2004 13:39 »

 
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Originally posted by Shaucker:
Well, people give these superheroes handicaps so there will BE superheroes with handicaps. I hate that, it seems like tampering with creativity. Although I do love Jean-Paul(NorthStar)  in Xmen...probably one of the first openly gay comic characters.

Being gay isn't a handicap.   tongue  (Then again, he's also Canadian.  Maybe that counts.   tongue)

As far as superheroes with handicaps, how about Professor X, or Cyclops?  (Cyclops isn't blind, but without his ruby quartz visor, he might as well be.)

Even those guys have it easy compared to Rogue, though.  At least they can touch people.
Shaucker

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« Reply #76 on: 07-06-2004 15:37 »

Hey, after the whole Miss Marvel thing, she had it easier...plus the most recent stuff in Xtreme Xmen where she was inactive.

No, I'm not saying being gay is a handicap...I'm just saying that stuff like being gay, or handicapped or blind has the habit of feeling forced in the character just for the message.
David A

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« Reply #77 on: 07-06-2004 17:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Shaucker:
Hey, after the whole Miss Marvel thing, she had it easier...plus the most recent stuff in Xtreme Xmen where she was inactive.

I wouldn't know, I haven't read any X-Men comics in years.

Rogue has always been one of my favorite characters, but as much as I like her, I've always felt that the fact that she has Ms. Marvel's powers is a bit of a cop out.  Why bother with her actual mutant abilities when she can just fly around and chuck cars at people?  One of the things that I liked about both the movie and X-Men: Evolution was that we got to see Rogue without any permanent extra powers.

 
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No, I'm not saying being gay is a handicap...I'm just saying that stuff like being gay, or handicapped or blind has the habit of feeling forced in the character just for the message.

I knew what you meant.  I was just teasing.

I agree with you that that sort of thing is often unnecessary.  There are more subtle ways to send a message.  With the X-Men, the whole mutant thing is a metaphor for being different.  You can relate to that whether you're gay, or handicapped, or just a weird kid who likes to read comic books.

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Mr. Potter

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« Reply #78 on: 07-06-2004 18:23 »

I voted Batman but it is in close competition with X2.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #79 on: 07-06-2004 19:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Shaucker:
that stupid thing shouldn't count as either a comic or a movie...such a horrible idea

Horrible idea or no, the comic has been very good in recent years -- Brian Michael Bendis, a Marvel writer who has turned the Punisher into something I'd actually want to read, has infused Daredevil with a lot more depth.
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