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ShineFusion
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"Is originality a thing of the past"
One word answer yes, they went down the drain when Hollywood discovered that people don't enjoy anything original or different. People may feel intimadated by something that hasn't been done before.
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SlaytanicMaggot
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Look at Vampire Hunter D. Then look at the sequel, Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. Completely original (and MUCH BETTER) storyline. You don't even have to have seen the first Vampire Hunter D to get it. The problem is when sequels are manufactured fairly quickly. But this year is the year of sequels in movies, last year was the year for the original movies....
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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American Fanfic writers in Anime use SI's of two types.
The annoying Martial Artist type. The annoying guy with Techno-Suit type.
And look at the Simpson's, yes. It is dead.
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kip
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Everything goes through stages of repeating the past, look at fashion. Music will get there eventually (when people exhaust every single beat, riff and lyric - and they gotta make a cover of somebody else's). I think more likely with TV and movies is that directors and producers watched the original film when they where younger and thought they could make it better (like a childhood fantasy)... spice it up with bigger breasted women and computer effects.
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Lurrr
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There has never been much orginality in the media. Once someone finds something that works they'll play it to death. I mean, very few Shakepeare plays are actually original (Romeo and Juliet is based upon an old Greek story) but he's supposedly the greatest playwright who ever lived. Same with movies- lots of early movies are adaptions because it was easier just to film something that was already written. Very little is original any more.
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M Jackson
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« Reply #9 on: 06-29-2003 09:57 »
« Last Edit on: 06-29-2003 09:57 »
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"TV adience don't wanna see anything original, they wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before" "Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared!"
Nothing is original, it's impossible to be 100% original because everything we do or create is based on/inspired by something else. The Light bulb was just an upgrade of the candle. This said, there are many many impressive and original concepts and ideas being produced in the world today. Ranging from movies, music, and culture in general.
Things that I consider as inovative/original as possible in their own particualr field are...
The Internet Futurama The Matrix AI Momento Michael Jackson The Office Recycling (I know that's an Oxymoron, as the concept of recycling means to reuse old stuff, but I mean the initial idea of reusing old products)...
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M Jackson
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Well there has to be a starting point for everything. Since fire is one of the elements it's what everything else is based on. So fire is one of the few truely 100% original things.
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j w wimpy
Delivery Boy
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Fire is one of the elements? I think you must have failed chemistry class.
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Allen
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As said before, originality is basically dead. Everything has been done in one way or another. Now originality lies in the way the used idea is handled. This says it all. There are no new ideas, but there are different ways to handle those ideas.
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DrThunder88
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Originality isn't dead. Every day we seem to be bombarded with more and more media, and the creative pool is only so deep. Originality is spread so thin all it looks like is a vain attempt at facsimilizing (great non-word) previous works. All art is inspired by other art, but artists of the past slaved away at their works for the better parts of their lives making their works their own. Nowadays we have writers who live in an economy based on volume. Art must be mass-produced in an age of mass media. Think of how many television stations there are with cable and satellite networks becoming standard equiptment in households across the land (not in mine...sigh). Many of these stations are on for twenty-four hours a day, that is an insane number of spots to try to fill every week. It's no wonder why so many movies and television shows look like they came off of the same assembly line...it's because they did.
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SamuelXDiamond
Rectum Favourist
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Meh. Originality ain't dead, it just doesn't sell. So the innovative products get shunted aside. Then, a product is noticed years down the line, at which point the corpse is dug up and subjected to a focus group. The focus group comprises of people with wide-ranging tastes, beliefs, backgrounds, cultures and ages and so naturally they agree on nothing. The product's concepts are broadly transplanted into a new vehicle, undergoing a charm overhaul on the way.
New product arrives, is hailed as a success by the mainstream, is looked down upon by the critical elite, and is despised by an insular and lonely internet community who 'liked the original better'. And thus originality works it'sway into the hearts of us all.
Note: Nothing i've said here hasn't been said better before.
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M Jackson
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Matt Greoning say that "Immitation is the most honest form of plagiarism" Which kind of justifies many jokes and situations on The Simpsons and Futurama.
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Nixorbo
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« Reply #24 on: 07-01-2003 00:27 »
« Last Edit on: 07-01-2003 00:27 »
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The Barenaked Ladies sang: Woohoohoo, it's all been done Woohoohoo, it's all been done Woohoohoo, it's all been done before King Solomon wrote a few thousand years earlier: There is nothing new under the sun.
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