The New Ren & Stimpy

[Reply #40 on:]

I never liked the original Ren and Stimpy; it seemed way too peurile, even for the intended audience.

[Reply #41 on:]

   

Originally posted by Lindsay99:
I don't know. My dad watched it w/ me when i was younger and he enjoyed it. Also i still enjoy the classics and i'm 16. The Nickelodeon ones will always have a place in my heart!

Well of course. I think I can still look at some of the older Ren & Stimpy cartoons and laugh. But this new one looks like a disaster. Im sure they will try to push the envolope but it wont matter. Adult cartoons are more refined than disgusting these days. The main thing that kept Ren & Stimpy talked about was that it was unique in its day and had the gross out factor going for it. Today it really isnt unique given the amount of Adult cartoons(I.E Southpark, and the Adult Swim programming). Also, I dont think that being disgusting works with todays audience.

I can still laugh at the old episodes and enjoy them like when I was young. hehe, The royal Canadian Kilted Yaksman episode kills me every time I watch it.     

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yeah, i think the main problem with the new one is that it tries too hard to be more adult. It's just WAY too gross now. i mean the old ones were had some things that kinda gross, but not that bad that i couldn't watch it.

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The new ones are all one long episode not little short subject stories like they use to be.

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Well, on another note. I find it funny that that TNN totally lost thier case against Spike Lee and theyve decided to just forget it all together, as if people wouldnt notice.   

I also remember Gary the Rat used to be a web toon. It came on the Mondo Minishows network.

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Originally posted by homerjaysimpson:
The new ones are all one long episode not little short subject stories like they use to be.

Actually, I remember quite a few episodes that lasted a half an hour. Though, I think that was after John K. left the show.

[Reply #46 on:]

The new one tonight was an improvement over the first... in the sense that being beaten to death with a baseball bat is an improvement over being beaten to death with a steel crowbar.

I think I'm pretty much done with "The Strip".

[Reply #47 on:]

Arrgh! Last week's ep (with Mr. Horse) went long, and my VCR cut off the last 2 or 3 minutes. How did the show end? (using the spoiler text, of course)

[Reply #48 on:]

Show spoiler

It turns out Mr. Horse wasn't a therapist and finds Ren's stories disgusting. Mr. Horse starts to beat Ren and Ren beats him back. Mr. Horse reaches for the gun which falls onto the floor. Ren grabs it and beats Mr. Horse with it so hard he dies (he'll be back). Dog catchers come in and arrest Ren who has gone mad. When they take off with Ren the frog crawls into the room still badly injured. He takes the gun lying nex to Mr. Horse puts it in his mouth pulls the trigger which causes the classic BANG! flag to go through the frog's head. The frog is still alive but in great pain. It than ends with the classic Looney Tunes circle with Ren, Frog, Mr. Horse, and a dog catcher inside it waving goodbye.

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Originally posted by OC_James:
Even though, the show has um..lost a lot of it's tastefulness it should still be respected. See, in the 70's and 80's cartoon show in America began to be taken over by big evil companies that thought it was more important for kids to learn a big moral lesson instead of have fun. Everyone knows moral lessons suck ass so this was bad time in cartoon history.

But Futurama and the Simpsons and Hey Arnold teach moral lesspms.
 

Originally posted by OC_James:
 Shows like Care Bears were dominant while the classic slapstick comedy of yore disappeared. John K. came from Canada with a plan: to give cartoons back to the cartoonists and away from the evil network executives and ultra-religious and sensitive stupid people. His first cartoon was Mighty Mouse but it got canned when rumours abounded that the flower Might Mouse got his powers from (by snortig it) was an opiate flower. Well in 1991, John K. got Ren & Stimpy on Nickelodeon and the show was loved by all cartoonists who had been forced to make shows like Fat Albert, Davey and Goliath (does that count?), Pretty Pony, and the force of all cartoon evil, Care Bears. Ren and Stimpy doesn't try to teach it lets you love and laugh. The Simpsons also placed quite a part in making cartoons more fun for the animators as well as the public. And for all of you who are fans of Futurama but hate Ren & Stimpy: David X. Cohen wrote for R&S!

No, he didn't. But Billy "Fry" West did originate the voice of Stimpy.

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Originally posted by Kryten:
If you could take a big pile of feces and some how process it into a TV show, you'd probably have something like the new Ren and Stimpy.

It is now my mission in life to punch John K in the nose if I ever see him.

Odd, considering on another thread you said you the John K. eps. of R&S.

[Reply #51 on:]

STOP DOUBLE POSTING, JOHN!
use the button!

its allmost as bad as caps, 

[Reply #52 on:]

I tried to watch some of the new "Ren & Stimpy", but eventually forgot about it literally until I saw this thread. It is a bit jarring to see characters you grew up with (I'm 21) return as...well...whatever that was. One note: It was absolutely no surprise to me that Ren and Stimpy were portrayed as lovers in that first new episode.

As for the question on everybody's minds, you know it is. Are Ren and Stimpy lovers? "Totally," says John K. proudly. "In Ren's case, it's not completely by choice. He'd rather have a beautiful human woman if he could get away with it. Since he can't, Stimpy's easy. Stimpy's madly in love with Ren."

That, I have no problem with. But the rest...

I do have to say it was a kick to see "Man's Best Friend", the fabled, long-lost, supposedly unairable episode first made for the original show. It was indeed violent, but no more so than any Tex Avery cartoon (though Tex 'toons weren't exactly meant for children, so I suppose I can see why Nickelodeon pulled the episode). Also, since "MBF" was made in the Nick years, Billy West does the voice of Stimpy. So, bonus points for that.

Overall, I much prefer the old "Ren & Stimpy Show" originally produced in the early '90s. The Commander Höek and Cadet Stimpy episodes (most famously, "Space Madness" ) are some of my favorite cartoons ever.

Okay, I'm done now.

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I used to love the origanal R&S.
I only watch one episode from the Spike TV version, the episode where Ren went to Mr. Horse for pycology work and Ren flashed back to when he was a kid.

It was good to see ONCE.

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Why, in COOP's sig,  is Fry holding a strangely coloured giant dildo?

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Originally posted by cyba:
Why, in COOP's sig,  is Fry holding a strangely coloured giant dildo?

It's a bottle you perv, most likely of Shasta.

Going on-topic, from what I saw of the later Ren and Stimpy episodes when they were on, I didn't like them as much as the originals myself. Although it seems that most people also think this.

[Reply #56 on:]

I still, strangely enough, haven't seen the new R&S and I don't think they play it anymore.  They seem to play the old episodes every once in awhile.

[Reply #57 on:]

Believe me, you aren't missing much. There's peurile is to Classic as vulgar is to Adult Party Cartoon. Blah! I'll go with the treasure in Lincoln's head and Powdered Toast Man any day.

[Reply #58 on:]

Are they better than the post Spumco episodes at least?

[Reply #59 on:]

Fuzzy the new episodes are made by Spumco, they played 4 of them last year and they have another 10 they are planning to play this year starting in August, apparently

[Reply #60 on:]

I meant are they better than the ones made after Kricfalusi was fired.

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Originally posted by newhook_1:
John K. did ren originally and then billy now John K. again, don't know who does stimpy now.

Stimpy is now voiced by Eric Bauza, who also did some voices for Ripping Friends. IMHO, he sounds pretty similar to Billy, but there are some subtle differences btween Billy's Stimpy and Eric's Stimpy.

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Why are great creative people so intent on ruining their work? Can't they see that as they age their writing style changes? I'm not saying you can't write if you're old but you can't write with the same perspective you had when you were younger. What you produce will be entirely different!

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Good news, everyone!

The first 2 seasons of R&S are coming to DVD!

from http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=1902

Ren and Stimpy Show, The - Stimpy, you eediot! They're putting us back on DVD! 2 whole seasons!
Posted by David Lambert
 7/16/2004
 
 
Happy Happy, Joy Joy! Ren and Stimpy fans who missed out on last year's Time-Life offerings can rejoice! Paramount has quietly let retailers know that Ren and Stimpy - The Complete 1st & 2nd Seasons will be available to sell in-stores on October 12!

Over 30 episodes will be present on this release: "Stimpy's Big Day", "The Big Shot", "Stimpy's Storybook Land: Robin Hoek", "Nurse Stimpy", "Space Madness", "The Boy Who Cried 'Rat!'", "Fire Dogs", "Stimpy's Storybook Land: The Littlest Giant", "Marooned", "Untamed World", "Black Hole", "Stimpy's Invention", "In the Army", "Powdered Toastman", "Ren's Toothache", "Big House Blues", "Out West", "Rubber Nipple Salesmen", "Sven Hoek", "Mad Dog Hoek", "Haunted House", "Big Baby Scam", "Dog Show", "Son of Stimpy", "Monkey See, Monkey Don't", "Fake Dad", "The Great Outdoors", "The Cat That Laid The Golden Hairball", "Stimpy's Fan Club", "A Visit to Anthony", and "The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen".

For those of us who managed to get the short-lived direct sale offering before Time-Life's rights (quickly) expired, there's still good reason to also get the new set. Besides 10 episodes that weren't on the old discs ("Mad Dog Hoek", "Haunted House", "Big Baby Scam", "Son of Stimpy", "Monkey See, Monkey Don't", "Fake Dad", "The Cat That Laid The Golden Hairball", "Stimpy's Fan Club", "A Visit to Anthony", and "The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen" ), Paramount's release will also have these extras:

Audio Commentary
Featurette
Image Gallery

Neat add-ons that make it worth adding this to your collection, eh? Something else that would make it worthwhile is if these turn out to be the completely unedited versions of each short. As an example, in the episode "Powdered Toastman", a document is burned in the fireplace, making a joke out of the ignorance of "PTM" when he unwittingly shoves it in. Originally the paper was identifiable as the U.S. Constitution by the words "We The People" at the top, but on the Time-Life DVDs it is only a blank piece of paper. This is just one example of the edits this show has seen, both for broadcast and on the old DVDs. C'mon, Paramount...give us the unedited, original versions of each cartoon!

The running time is listed at 418 minutes, and pricing info isn't yet available. Nor is cover art, but we expect to have that reasonably soon. Stay tuned for more! In the meantime, recite the oath: "I do hereby promise only to watch the Ren & Stimpy Show..." 


Happy, happy, joy, joy!

My response: Nice, I hope it's completely uncut like the digitally restored classics versions on Spike TV and they include the lost bathtub scene from "Sven Hoek" that was recently rediscovered by Spumco. They should also have the "lost" ep. "Man's Best Friend", all the original bumpers and the Waiting for Santa" segments and music videos from Have Yourself a Stinky Little Christmas plus other R&S music videos.

[Reply #64 on:]

I like the old Ren and Stimpy better.  I didn't really like the new ones at all.  What's the deal with them being gay?  And what's with the swearing? 

[Reply #65 on:]

 

Originally posted by John Pannozzi:
 Odd, considering on another thread you said you the John K. eps. of R&S.

Yeah, well, after they sodomized my eyeballs with the new version, I retroactively hate the old series, too.

[Reply #66 on:]

yay!! i cant wait for the first 2 seasons to come out!!!

[Reply #67 on:]

the jokes now are funny I especcialy like the toast guy

hooray im a bending unit!!!
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Originally posted by Kryten:
  I retroactively hate the old series, too.

But it gave fame to Billy "Fry, the Professy, Zoidy, Zapp, Ken, Leo and Nixon" West.

P.S.: I love ALL of R&S, so I don't like you very much, but I repsect your opinions even if I disagree with them.

According to http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=116590  Paramount's upcoming R&S DVD release will be uncut.

Heres the cover art from http://216.218.203.229/news3/RenAndStimpy_S1S2.jpg

[Reply #69 on:]

I've seen two of the three upcoming new episodes, and believe me, the writing for APC is getting better.
"Naked Beach Frenzy" and "Stimpy's Pregnant" are much more like the classic eps.
Give the new episodes a chance when they air, won't you?

Oh, and for those of you upset by R&S's "relationship," remember: they were always lovers. Ever since the Nickelodeon days.

[Reply #70 on:]

When are the new episodes airing anyway? At what time and on what channel?

[Reply #71 on:]

On Spike TV.  When during the day, I don't know.

Now that I think about it, is Spike TV even still showing Ren and Stimpy?  Didn't the rest of their stupid animated shows get cancelled?

[Reply #72 on:]

Some interesting interviews with John K. on the most recent Ren & Stimpy episodes here:
 http://michaelbarrier.com/Feedback/feedback_johnk.htm
 http://www.cartoonbrew.com/archives/2004_08.html#000426
 http://www.cartoonbrew.com/archives/2004_08.html#000432

One thing that really comes across is that regardless of what you think of the humor (and Michael Barrier, who did the interview in the first link, really hated all the gross stuff), John K. is really obsessed with the quality of the animation and the "acting" of the characters, and animation aficiados seem to agree he's doing really high-quality stuff in this area.

In the third interview he also says that if he gets to do a second season (Spike TV hasn't aired the last two episodes of the current season yet, so it's unknown if this'll happen) he may tone down the grossness:

 

Assuming you get another season, in addition to greater stylization, what else would you do differently from these recent episodes?

I think I want to go and do some simpler, lighter, shorter and more cartoony stories next time. No more poo jokes! I'm actually thinking of making a cartoon specifically for Mike Barrier and then one for my Dad according to their specific tastes and phobias, rather than mine. I definitely want to bring back the bumpers and short bits like the original series. We wrote a bunch for the first season, like "My Little Ass," "Powdered Toast Rolling Tobacco," and "Log For Moms," but didn't have time to make them. I love to experiment and don’t like to stay in one mode for too long. Oh yeah, I want to do some musical stuff!

[Reply #73 on:]

these New epsiodes of Ren and stimpy are they any good?

I only Remember the Original Episodes

[Reply #74 on:]

 

Originally posted by Zogonif:
these New epsiodes of Ren and stimpy are they any good?

I only Remember the Original Episodes

The new episodes are awesome.
"Onward and Upward," "Ren Seeks Help," "Naked Beach Frenzy," and "Stimpy's Pregnant" are absolutely hilarious.

"Firedogs 2" (with Ralph Bakshi) was OK, though not as good as the other APC eps, or the classics.

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Another, longer John K. interview where he talks about Ren & Stimpy and also the classic cartoons that inspired him:
 http://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=pageone&article_no=2214&page=1

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Here are my reviews of "Naked Beach Frenzy" and "Stimpy's Pregnant":
As Naked Beach Frenzy begins, Ren and Stimpy are at the beach.
Stimpy's there for the fun, sun and exercise.
Ren's there for the sexy, human women.
Stimpy notices that Ren's distracted by a beach girl with big tits, and gets jealous, so he goes off and buys a thong from a Samoan vender to try and impress Ren.
Just as the beach girl is about to take her top off, Stimpy gets in the way, to show Ren his new thong.
Ren snaps Stimpy out of the way with Stimpy's thong, and he lands face-first into the topless beach girl's tits.
She begins clamoring about how cute Stimpy is.
Suddenly, a group of girls gather around, and they fight over Stimpy.
"I want to pet the pussy! Let me pet the pussy! Is that a retard? I want the idiot!"
Ren sees how they go for Stimpy, and screams "Rub me! I'm the Cat!" (Note the reference to "Stimpy's Big Day" )
Upon the first view of Ren, the girls scream. "It's a hideous sand crab!"
The lifeguard hears the high-pitched screams, and runs towards the girls.
Upon seeing Ren trying to rub himself all over a girl, the lifeguard screams "NO! Those poor tits!"
The lifeguard proceeds to beat the living hell out of Ren.

Later in the episode, Ren and Stimpy are shower attendents.
Ren (as Jiminy Man) lathers up the girls with a bar of soap, and Stimpy (as Shampoo Master) shampoos the girls' hair.

Needless to say, the episode was frickin' hilarious.
Perhaps the best "Adult Party Cartoon" yet.
Even better than "Ren Seeks Help"!

While, admitably, "Onward and Upward" and "Firedogs 2," though very funny, had their weak spots, and "Ren Seeks Help" was pretty slow, there are no problems to be found with "Naked Beach Frenzy." Just sheer hilarity. Non-stop jokes from beginning to end.

"Stimpy's Pregnant" was even better.
As it began, I knew I was in for a real treat.
The episode's format is a parody of Lucy's pregnancy on "I Love Lucy," complete with a laugh track, applause, and a "I Love Lucy"-style title screen at the end reading "I Love Stimpy."
Ren and Stimpy now live in a treehouse in some guy's back yard.
Stimpy's morning sickness wakes Ren up, "... in the middle of a perfect dream!" Ren tries to hit Stimpy. "Don't you lay a hand on me, not in my condition!" Ren stops dead in his tracks. "What condition?" Stimpy: "I've been trying to figure out how to tell you -- I'm gonna have your baby!"
At first, Ren is not very happy. After all, who could blame him? Neither has had a job in six years.

But Stimpy reassures him. "Just think -- there could be a little you running around here."
Ren: "Yeah? You think he'll look like me?" "Oh, he'll look EXACTLY like you!"
"Will he be a little arsehole just like me?" "Oh, I promise!"
"Can we gang up on you?" "That's what mothers are for!"
"We'll keep the little bastard!"

Highlights of the episode include:
- Stimpy braving great danger to get Ren a cold beer.
- Stimpy "eating for two"
- The birth

The ending was so unexpected, and so hilarious, but I can't reveal it to you. You'll have to wait until the episode airs to see what happens.

All-in-all, "Naked Beach Frenzy" and "Stimpy's Pregnant" are real treats.
Those of you who hated the first three APC episodes will feel right at home with NBF and SP, as they are much like the classic episodes John K. did for Nickelodeon in tone.
And those of you who loved the first three episodes will definitely enjoy these fine, fine cartoons.

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Here's a review of the DVD from a guy who got it early:
 http://cgi.tripod.com/lady_deathtouch/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=news;action=display;num=1096624687


Unfortunetly, it turns some scenes were cut and the quaility isn't great. Still, the extras will be interesting.

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Ooooh, I can't wait til that comes out...

[Reply #79 on:]

 

Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
When are the new episodes airing anyway? At what time and on what channel?

You can watch some of the new Ren and Stimpy eps. at http://ralphbakshi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=201&start=0