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PEE Poll: Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park   -29 (80.6%)
Jurassic Park II   -4 (11.1%)
Jurassic Park III   -3 (8.3%)
Total Voters: 36

ShineFusion

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« Reply #40 on: 06-30-2003 02:58 »
« Last Edit on: 07-13-2003 00:00 »

Jurrasic Park
Simple
The Lost World was iffy but the third was crap.

TTOTPD
M Jackson
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« Reply #41 on: 07-12-2003 06:37 »

Jurassic Park 3 was recently included in The Daily Mail's list of the ten best sequels of all time! I think it was at number 6. Others in the list were Terminator 2, Toy Story 2, The Empire Strikes Back and The Godfather Part 2!
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« Reply #42 on: 07-12-2003 11:14 »

They considered The Empire Strikes Back one of the best sequels of all time?  Please tell me that Die Hard 2 and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom weren't on that list.
M Jackson
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« Reply #43 on: 07-12-2003 15:20 »

I dont think Die Hard 2 was (but it doesn't really deserve to be), although I think that one of the Indiana Jones sequels was on it, it may have been The Last Crusade? If they werent in the top 10 I think they were in the 'honorable mentions' section. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers took the top spot, and I'm not going to argue with that.
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« Reply #44 on: 07-12-2003 15:56 »

i actually thought the third one was better than the second one (i couldnt get over the fact of all the people to return to stop the dinosaurs it was the annoying mathematician) and personally i thoghy toy story 2 was better than the first
M Jackson
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« Reply #45 on: 07-12-2003 16:00 »

In many ways Toy Story 2 IS better than the first, but the only thing it lacks is the darkness of the original (e.g. the mutilated toys). Also if you really think about it, the story is just a re-hash, but in the very best possible way.
BNLbum

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« Reply #46 on: 07-12-2003 16:52 »

M Jackson, you are absolutely correct. While the humour was much better in the second, the darker undertones which occured in the first movie were sorely missed from the second.

The Two Towers was a good sequel: It improved on everything from the first. It was more entertaining, had better acting, and was all around just better adapted from the page to film.

Empire Strikes Back is the best sequel of all time, though. Better characters, better story, and of course, the biggest plot twist of all time.
M Jackson
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« Reply #47 on: 07-12-2003 17:05 »

 
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Originally posted by BNLbum:
M Jackson, you are absolutely correct.

Duh!


Oh, and I also think that the back To The Future sequels are excellent too. Part 2 has to be one of the most orignal sequels ever!
DrThunder88

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« Reply #48 on: 07-12-2003 23:31 »

 
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Originally posted by aussie dude:
i actually thought the third one was better than the second one (i couldnt get over the fact of all the people to return to stop the dinosaurs it was the annoying mathematician)...

In both of the books, Malcom is the main character.  For movie-making puposes the main character has to be a more physically active character like Grant on his trek through Jurassic Park.  Since JP3 wasn't based on a specific novel it didn't have to worry about using a plot-driving character (although it might have helped).
Coop

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« Reply #49 on: 07-13-2003 03:56 »

1 was the best for me, it had it all for me at that age. Dinosaurs, fright factor, a guy getting eaten on a toilet!! All of our worst nightmares have come true! lol. But anyway, 2 was good but 3 I just felt didnt live up to the ones before it.


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aussie dude

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« Reply #50 on: 07-13-2003 07:09 »

i didnt think he was the main character in the book but anyway he was just way too annoying and i just felt that when the t-rex entered the city it was just wrong for sooo many reasons.
Bobby King

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« Reply #51 on: 07-13-2003 07:22 »

i hope both Sam Neill and Jeff Goldblum is with in JP4
aussie dude

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« Reply #52 on: 07-13-2003 07:32 »

Although i prefered the third one to the second one the scene where the raptor comes for its eggs and they return them and the raptors just go away peacefully is just hopelessly wrong and nearly ruined the whole movie for me but it wasnt as bad as the 2nd one where the girl does gymnastics to defeat the raptors very very sad.
i hope at least one of them dies in jp4, just to mix it up a bit i mean it would make a great twist for one of the main characters to be torn to shreds, like in the Deep Blue Sea when SL jackson carcs it
DrThunder88

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« Reply #53 on: 07-13-2003 21:02 »
« Last Edit on: 07-13-2003 21:02 »

 
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Originally posted by aussie dude:
...i just felt that when the t-rex entered the city it was just wrong for sooo many reasons.

Yeah, but it was great fun to watch.  Take that, screenwriter David Koepp, you "unlucky bastard" you.

And yes, that gymnastics crap was the low point of the entire series...lower even than the T-Rex getting his ass kicked.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #54 on: 07-14-2003 18:36 »

DrThunder--what was wrong with Empire Strikes Back? That movie is so freaking sexy!
M Jackson
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« Reply #55 on: 07-14-2003 19:24 »

Yes, ur "sexy", and also brilliant!
DrThunder88

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« Reply #56 on: 07-14-2003 20:52 »
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
DrThunder--what was wrong with Empire Strikes Back? That movie is so freaking sexy!

It seemed like everyone in that movie was overacting or underacting except James Earl Jones and Frank Oz.

 
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Originally posted on IMDB:
 think that there should be a big semi-epic almost 7 minute fight between rex and spino. It ends with the rex sinkin its pearly whites into the throat of spino (who would be doing the equivilent of a dinosaur on its knees, begging for mercy). Then he will (some how) pick the spino up off the ground, and throw it. When it lands, it is still alive. Then rex basically beheads it

Best scene ever.  All it needs is something exploding.
M Jackson
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« Reply #57 on: 07-15-2003 08:12 »

A vampire perhaps?
Coop

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« Reply #58 on: 07-15-2003 14:02 »

 
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Originally posted by M Jackson:
A vampire perhaps?

An exploding vampire?? Now THATS my kind of movie.


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aussie dude

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« Reply #59 on: 07-16-2003 05:17 »

jurassic park 4 has an exploding vampire you say??? throw in a naked werewolf attack and you have a garaunteed box office smash
M Jackson
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« Reply #60 on: 07-16-2003 10:36 »

Is a naked werewolf attack being attacked by a naked werewolf? Or being attacked by a werewolf whilst you yourself are naked? Or is the attack itself naked?
aussie dude

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« Reply #61 on: 07-17-2003 01:29 »

ahh you are overthinking it just get lost in the moment
DrThunder88

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« Reply #62 on: 08-21-2003 11:26 »

Speaking of overthinking.
Ben

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« Reply #63 on: 08-21-2003 11:55 »

 
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It seemed like everyone in that movie was overacting or underacting except James Earl Jones and Frank Oz.

Dodgy acting in a Star Wars film..?! Who would have thought...
Leaderbean

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« Reply #64 on: 08-21-2003 12:00 »

The first one was good cause it had a whole underline moral of "don't mess with nature." or something like that. The other two were just pop-corn pushers with nothing much to them at all.
Binder

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« Reply #65 on: 08-21-2003 13:45 »

"Dotson, we've got Dotson here! See? Nobody cares."

"Smart girl"

"God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs, God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs, dinosaurs destroy man...woman inherits the Earth."

and not a quote but a surprisingly good simulation of one:
"See see the um the chaos theory of um of ev-evolution um uh clearly states..."
M Jackson
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« Reply #66 on: 08-21-2003 13:46 »

Actually The Lost World probably has a stronger "Don't mess with nature" message than the first one. The main characters are environmentalists/ greenpeace workers. The main theme of the film is that the big corporations and hunters loose against the dinosaurs.
And don't forget Richard Attenburoughs closing speech.
I guess that part three doesn't really have these elements, it's still great though.
DrThunder88

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« Reply #67 on: 08-21-2003 22:53 »
« Last Edit on: 08-21-2003 22:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Binder:
"Dotson, we've got Dotson here! See? Nobody cares."

"Clever girl"

-"God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs, God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs."
-"Dinosaurs eat man...woman inherits the Earth."

and not a quote but a surprisingly good simulation of one:
"See see the um the chaos theory of um of ev-evolution um uh clearly states..."

That was a surprisingly good Goldblum impression.
Garbage Picker

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« Reply #68 on: 08-21-2003 23:14 »

Im going to have to go with JP3. It had a great story line but the problem was that it was rushed. Towards the end everything just comes together so happily its depressing. I mean, come on, one more Rexy - Spino fight wouldn't hurt. That had to be the coolest scene in movie history though.

JP the original was my 2nd fav. I still watch it. JP2 was good but it just had too much Rex. Cant wait for JP4 though......

I ramble alot.

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DrThunder88

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« Reply #69 on: 08-22-2003 00:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Garbage Picker:
JP2 was good but it just had too much Rex.

Bah!  There is no such thing.
mikey

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« Reply #70 on: 08-22-2003 00:42 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2003 00:42 »

The original was awesome, the second was good, the third was terrible. My prediction is that the forth will be spectcrapular!
davids

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« Reply #71 on: 08-27-2003 05:12 »

JP4 is now due out 2005. I think thats the same year as spiderman 2 and shrek 2. if im right then there is going to be one hell of a battle to get first place but i think JP will loose out.
BNLbum

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« Reply #72 on: 08-27-2003 10:30 »

No, Spider-Man's July 2nd 2004.
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #73 on: 08-27-2003 15:21 »

Shrek 2... I do not know when all of the origonal writers leave and complain about what the studio did to the second movie's plot, I have no positive expectations.

As a Dinosaur Nut I liked the first one, it actually had some nice science and isn't bad if you look at the changes as genetic mistakes by inGen. The action and characters were great, the special effects were groundbreaking and some still hold up very well (kitchen scene... hard to tell which are animatronic which are CGI, also that scene was much better then in the book) The best "Fuck logic this looks cool" scene in a film (the T-Rex eating the raptors)

2. The plot and characters sucked. The book wasn't that bad, it could have easly been a screen play but Spielberg just had his own ideas. The Kid was annoying, the ending sucked. Had some nice action sequences, like the tall grass scene and the procompys. Too bad there are lots of groaning scenes like the Gymnastics one.

3. They ignored the science in this one. It was just painful to watch. Not only that there were dozens of plot holes and some of the worse pacing I have seen in a film. The Spinosaur and Pteradons were boneheaded descisions as creatures to attack the heros, both ate fish (well Spinosaurus is a little iffy but its teath are so different then the other predators that it did not have the same diet) and both looked like they ate fish.

So my ratings are 1,2,3, Hopefully in the next one the T-rex makes a comeback and the writers contact more paleontologyts.
DrThunder88

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« Reply #74 on: 08-27-2003 15:43 »

 
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2...Too bad there are lots of groaning scenes like the Gymnastics one.

Especially the gymnastics sequence...

 
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3...The Spinosaur and Pteradons were boneheaded descisions as creatures to attack the heros, both ate fish (well Spinosaurus is a little iffy but its teath are so different then the other predators that it did not have the same diet) and both looked like they ate fish.

I totally agree, but in the absence of big, Mesozoic fish, a slow, squishy, two-legged creature might have looked pretty good.

 
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...paleontologyts.

Sorry, I had to laugh.  For some odd reason, I saw that and immediately thought it was an attempt at "paleotologynecologists"...which, even more oddly, makes some sense if movie four is anything like the script I wrote.
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #75 on: 09-10-2005 01:33 »

OK, I read some of the script, which I doubt is true. But I bring up this thread for one question.

A young Army officer steps into the office.

LT. AMY BRANNIGAN
Sorry to bother you, sir.  I was sent for Dr. Alan Grant and Dr. Ian Malcolm.

ALAN GRANT
That's us.  What do you need?

LT. AMY BRANNIGAN
You gentlemen need to come with me.

IAN MALCOLM
What?  Why?

LT. AMY BRANNIGAN
Sir, my orders are to bring you to the base.

ALAN GRANT
Look, Miss...

LT. AMY BRANNIGAN
It's Lieutenant, Lieutenant Brannigan.

ALAN GRANT
Of course, I'm sorry.  It's just that a lot has happened in such a short time, and I think we're all just going to need a little time to put it all together.

LT. AMY BRANNIGAN
Sir, I know you might feel that way right now, but I have been ordered to bring you with me without delay.

IAN MALCOLM
I'm afraid I have to agree with Dr. Grant here, Lieutenant.

LT. AMY BRANNIGAN
Sir, there are two Military Police officer waiting in the hall and two more outside.  I'm to place you under arrest if you don't come with me right now.

ALAN GRANT
Well, Ian, it looks like we'd better go/


On what grounds can Grant and Malcolm be arrested? Isn't there something called the 5th Amendment?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #76 on: 09-10-2005 02:21 »

Movie logic.  Doesn't really matter, as the movie shouldn't be made to begin with.

2 and 3 were entertaining in their own ways I suppose.  Been a while since I've seen either so I'd have to watch them again.  But at this point it's an exhausted concept and really shouldn't be revisited yet again.  In any case, the first was definitely the best.
David A

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« Reply #77 on: 09-10-2005 12:21 »

Amy Brannigan?  They're totally ripping-off Futurama!!!1!111!oneone!
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #78 on: 09-10-2005 12:42 »

Where'd you get the section of script from?
DrThunder88

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« Reply #79 on: 09-10-2005 13:14 »

That's no script.  That's a fanfic.

Maybe it's martial law or something.  The Armed Forces don't always make for the best law enforcement.  I blame it on George W.  You know he doesn't care about smart people.  Anyway, it never got to the point where I was happy with it, and I forgot to take it down after "help" dried up.
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