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PEE Poll: I know it's sacrelige, but I don't think Seinfeld's funny
Seinfeld's so overrated   -6 (19.4%)
Seinfeld's so great   -19 (61.3%)
Powerless third party   -6 (19.4%)
Total Voters: 31

Stuart

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« on: 05-26-2003 17:55 »
« Last Edit on: 05-27-2003 00:00 »

Before you bury me and say I've got no sense of humour or I'm a crazed terrorist, I like most American comedy: the Simpsons, Futurama, Frasier (when it was good), Cheers, Scrubs, South Park, Friends (before I realised how irritating it is), [edit: how could I forget Beavis and Butthead?] and most of the others US comedies we see in Britain are decent.
(although absolute piffle compared to our jolly good telly, eh what old chap?)

But, Seinfeld. I've just never laughed at it. I know it was immensely popular in America, and have never found anyone who said a bad word about it, but I'm pretty sure I get the jokes and they just aren't funny to me. Do I need to watch the whole series to appreciate the humour, or see a therapist, or (god forbid) does anyone agree with me?
Gocad

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« Reply #1 on: 05-26-2003 18:03 »

Seinfeld - who is that anyway?
Just Chris

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« Reply #2 on: 05-26-2003 18:04 »

Sacrilege!

I like it pretty much. I like the intertwining plots, how they all wrap up together in the end. And the writers are clever in making the most out of a trivial situation (such as the time where the gang is stranded in a parking lot). I'm not sure how many episodes you've watched, but maybe it's not your style of humor. I like Seinfeld but in my opinion the first season didn't appeal to me much.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #3 on: 05-26-2003 18:25 »

I must agree with Just Chris -- sacrilege of the highest degree.

They called it "the show about nothing," but the fact was that it was more about real people and real life than other "shows about something," I guess, like Friends. I mean, come on, these struggling post-college folks can afford studio apartments and such? Whatever. Seinfeld was real life.

It's like the old saying: "It's funny 'cause it's true."
Kryten

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« Reply #4 on: 05-26-2003 18:40 »

Seinfeld was pure genius, at least up until the seventh season.
Kipper

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« Reply #5 on: 05-26-2003 18:43 »

Shutup! Friends is a good show.......and i dont think its gonna be on much longer because its soo old but what i do know about it is its fairly realistic and joey is soo hot! love   love  things that are true like seinfeld are BORRING! tongue
PCC Fred

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« Reply #6 on: 05-26-2003 18:48 »

 
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
They called it "the show about nothing," but the fact was that it was more about real people and real life than other "shows about something," I guess, like Friends. I mean, come on, these struggling post-college folks can afford studio apartments and such?

A college professor, an actor, a fairly major chef married to a guy who (until recently) worked in an office, and someone who works at Ralph Lauren.  Yeah, total mystery that one.

Seinfeld was funny, but I didn't think it was that special.
Kipper

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« Reply #7 on: 05-26-2003 18:51 »

what about everybody loves raymond. Thats a really good show!
OC_James

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« Reply #8 on: 05-26-2003 18:57 »

Friends is unreal because there's hardly anyone in New York who actually acts like them. Those aren't real people doing things real people do. Seinfeld was about real people doing things real people do (well more real than Friends at least). Plus, I didn't realize everyone in New York city was white like on Friends.
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #9 on: 05-26-2003 19:08 »

 
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Originally posted by Kipper:
what about everybody loves raymond. Thats a really good show!

I hate raymond. Seinfeld was a lot better.


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Kryten

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« Reply #10 on: 05-26-2003 19:23 »

I once read this review of ELR that claims that it's the single most depressing show on TV.
Kipper

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« Reply #11 on: 05-26-2003 19:25 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2003 19:25 »

what are you talking about? Raymond is soo much better then seinfeld and its one of the very few realistic shows that dosent SUCK!
OC_James

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« Reply #12 on: 05-26-2003 19:25 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2003 19:25 »

Everybody Loathes Raymond.
Kipper

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« Reply #13 on: 05-26-2003 19:26 »

  tongue grow up!
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #14 on: 05-26-2003 19:41 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2003 19:41 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
 A college professor, an actor, a fairly major chef married to a guy who (until recently) worked in an office, and someone who works at Ralph Lauren.  Yeah, total mystery that one.

Those careers are only recent developments. Ross was a student for a long while, Monica only recent became a head chef, Joey's career as an actor before he landed the soap opera stuff was dismal. Pheobe's career.. well, it needs no adressing.   smile Chandler and Rachel were the only ones who had any money from the beginning, and Rachel was supposedly cut off and that's why she needed the job.

They've had the same few apartments for the whole series. There've been a couple moves, but their's always been those two main apartments. How did they afford them at the beginning? How?
OC_James

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« Reply #15 on: 05-26-2003 19:43 »

I get it: magic.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #16 on: 05-26-2003 19:44 »

 
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Originally posted by OC_James:
I get it: magic.

Or as Gocad might say:

Behold! Script Logic!
PCC Fred

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« Reply #17 on: 05-26-2003 19:50 »

 
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
 Those careers are only recent developments. Ross was a student for a long while, Monica only recent became a head chef, Joey's career as an actor before he landed the soap opera stuff was dismal. Pheobe's career.. well, it needs no adressing.    smile Chandler and Rachel were the only ones who had any money from the beginning, and Rachel was supposedly cut off and that's why she needed the job.

They've had the same few apartments for the whole series. There've been a couple moves, but their's always been those two main apartments. How did they afford them at the beginning? How?

It was established fairly early on that Chandler, Monica and Ross had reasonably well paying jobs.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #18 on: 05-26-2003 19:57 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2003 19:57 »

   
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
 It was established fairly early on that Chandler, Monica and Ross had reasonably well paying jobs.

Do you know what a studio apartment in Manhattan would cost? Rent is outrageous for apartments as big as theirs! Especially for the neighborhood they are in (i.e. near Central Park).
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« Reply #19 on: 05-26-2003 20:00 »

I loved the family guy spoof of Seinfeld:
Not a stickler tickler!
Sticklersticklerticklerstickl erticklersticklerstickler!!
Kipper

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« Reply #20 on: 05-26-2003 20:04 »

that is kind of weird, and rachel wasnt even monica's room mate when monica bought that huge apartment for herself 
PCC Fred

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« Reply #21 on: 05-26-2003 20:06 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2003 20:06 »

 
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
    Do you know what a studio apartment in Manhattan would cost? Rent is outrageous for apartments as big as theirs! Especially for the neighborhood they are in (i.e. near Central Park).

There's only one way to settle this argument!  Write to NBC and ask them for all six characters' financial details!

@kipper - Phoebe was Monica's roommate before Rachel.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #22 on: 05-26-2003 20:13 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2003 20:13 »

Does Pheobe even have a job these days? She used to do the whole folk singing gig at Central Perk, but I haven't seen her do much of anything lately. Is she still with Monica in that whole catering thing?
OC_James

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« Reply #23 on: 05-26-2003 20:16 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2003 20:16 »

Well from the information I've gathered Phoebe appears to be a beggar and probably prostitues for money as well. That (coupled with Ross, Monica, and Chandler's wealth) could afford the apartments right? Maybe not. Anyway, here's a spoiler for an episode from one of the last episodes of Friends.

CyberKnight

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« Reply #24 on: 05-26-2003 20:24 »

Actually, wasn't it established in the flashback episode that the apartment isn't actually Monica's, that it belonged to her aunt or something?

I quite enjoyed Friends, at least on a shallow level, until about the 5th season, when it turned into a soap opera. And it's reaching "Simpsons" levels of "we're going to do another season.".

I haven't really seen enough of Seinfeld to pass judgement, but what I did see was pretty good. Not really my favourite style, but still pretty funny.

Personally, I quite like Frasier.

*hides*.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #25 on: 05-26-2003 20:40 »

I like Frasier as well, but greatly dislike the soap-opera-like turn it has recently taken, much like Friends.

Everybody Loves Raymond is OK, too, but only in small doses.

Personally, my favorite TV comedy (live-action!) is The Daily Show, a news parody program on Comedy central.
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #26 on: 05-26-2003 21:42 »

I respect the show, it has really good writing and acting. Much better then the average sitcoms.

I agree on Daily Show...watch it every day!
FishyJoe

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« Reply #27 on: 05-27-2003 08:50 »

I can't relate to anyone who likes Friends more than Seinfeld. Seinfeld was hilarious, and it got better and better(until the final episode). Some may argue that the final two seasons weren't as good...I disagree, but surely everyone can see that Seinfeld had the class to retire way earlier than it could have.

Also, I think everyone should shut up about sitcoms being "realistic". Yeah, Friends isn't realistic...but neither was Seinfeld. Jerry George and Elaine's residences were more realistic, I guess, since they all had appropriate jobs. But what about Kramer? He doesn't do anything, and he lives in an apartment just as fancy as Jerry's. And the situations that they always got into were nowhere near realistic.

 
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By LAN.gnome
Personally, my favorite TV comedy (live-action!) is The Daily Show, a news parody program on Comedy central.

*high fives VF, Mark, and Greg*
asianlightning

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« Reply #28 on: 05-27-2003 10:07 »

The Daily Show rocks. Anyone see the story about the anti-guy activist who was convinced that a Minute Maid orange juice commercial was being used as pro-gay recruiting material. Priceless.

Personally, I can't stand Friends. My girlfriend loves it, which is agonizing, but I can't stand it most of the time.
Kipper

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« Reply #29 on: 05-27-2003 15:49 »

it can get a little annoying sometimes but  wouldnt call it agonizing just because your girl friend watches it a lot
Strat

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« Reply #30 on: 05-27-2003 18:27 »

I don't believe he was calling it agonizing because she watches it alot, I think he merely meant to imply that he must suffer through the agony of it more often than he would like due to her watching it.

It is agonizing, like most show of that variety, because it is somewhat predictable, uncreative, and uses a laugh track for joks that aren't really funny.

Personally, I despise laugh tracks, it's as if they believe that in order to convince you that it's funny, other people must be laughing at it... it's like videos of a band where they show case all these people really digging the band, wow, they must be cool... grrr...
Just Chris

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« Reply #31 on: 05-27-2003 21:24 »

If you hate laugh tracks then stay the hell away from The Pitts.

I didn't get the novelty of Friends either. It all look sugarcoated to me. And I also agree that they never seem to act like real New Yorkers would. If there is a reality flaw with Seinfeld it's that those people seem to use their cars too much. They should use taxicabs more.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #32 on: 05-27-2003 22:42 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
 
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By LAN.gnome
Personally, my favorite TV comedy (live-action!) is The Daily Show, a news parody program on Comedy central.

*high fives VF, Mark, and Greg*

Forgive me, but I don't understand how what you said relates to the quote you used. What are you referring to?
BumbleBeeTheta

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« Reply #33 on: 05-27-2003 23:02 »

Seinfeld is one of the best shows on TV, because it could turn the most mundane situations into hilarious riots.  I liked Friends for a while, but it's getting so repetitive now.  I remember there was a fake commercial for Friends on SNL where Ross hooked up with...his sister.  The tag line was, "Because we're really running out of combinations."  I'm surprised they haven't gone with some big lesbian/gay situation (Besides the one with Rachel's college friend).  Oh, wait, they must be saving that for the series finale in 2230...  tongue
bankrupt

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« Reply #34 on: 05-27-2003 23:33 »

I voted "Seinfeld's so great".  In my opinion it is the most consistently well written sitcom that I've ever seen.  I can't think of an episode that I didn't like.  I'll stop and watch 'em whenever I see them on rerun (except when Futurama is on at the same time).
Stuart

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« Reply #35 on: 05-28-2003 06:00 »

I saw Curb Your Enthusiasm by Seinfeld creator Larry David last night on BBC2, and didn't think it was up to much either. There were a few amusing moments, but not enough, and the story didn't even build to a good conclusion. It tried to make the episode turn into a bigger and bigger web of lies (like Fawlty Towers or Frasier, sometimes, did) without being as funny as either IMO.
Has anyone seen this, and what did you think of it?
Nixorbo

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« Reply #36 on: 05-28-2003 09:11 »

 
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
 Forgive me, but I don't understand how what you said relates to the quote you used. What are you referring to?

Just referring to a certain PEEL 4-some that's going to a live taping of the Daily Show on Monday.

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alexvilagosh

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« Reply #37 on: 05-28-2003 09:14 »

Sienfield is great!!!
Tweek

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« Reply #38 on: 05-28-2003 09:25 »

I watched a bit of Seinfeld, but gave up as it wasn't at all funny.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #39 on: 05-28-2003 12:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Strat:
Personally, I despise laugh tracks, it's as if they believe that in order to convince you that it's funny, other people must be laughing at it...

But I can't watch comedy without the TV network telling me where to laugh!

Ironically, I heard of a sitcom that used canned laughter because their studio audience didn't laugh at the jokes...
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