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VelourFog

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« Reply #120 on: 06-04-2003 11:35 »

 
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Originally posted by The Names Nick:
 ^A perfect example of why ignorance is bliss.
haha. takes one to know one, huh nick.

don't pick on Venus, she's got a better rep than you'll ever have


"cuter than a chinchilla, and only twice as bitey" -rach
Gocad

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« Reply #121 on: 06-04-2003 11:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Tzlk:
I liked this movie.  It had a good mix of action-comedy.  I thought Link was hillarious throughout the movie.

Comedy? Link hillarious? Is there more than one Matrix Reloaded?
Reloaded was way to serious in my opinion. Except for Smith, of course. He is hillarious.
VelourFog

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« Reply #122 on: 06-04-2003 13:08 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:BTW, can there be a movie in which the male lead and the female lead do not fall in love? Seriously, it would be a great change of pace.

"Bringing Down the House"


ps- I love this thread and I'll be back soon


"cuter than a chinchilla, and only twice as bitey" -rach
The Names Nick

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« Reply #123 on: 06-04-2003 16:57 »

 
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Originally posted by VelourFog:
 
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Originally posted by The Names Nick:
 ^A perfect example of why ignorance is bliss.
haha. takes one to know one, huh nick.

don't pick on Venus, she's got a better rep than you'll ever have



I was not picking on Venus, and why is it you feel the need to take cheap shots at me on such a regular basis, VF? I got a few good laffs out of it the first few times but now its starting to get old.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #124 on: 06-04-2003 18:26 »

Don't you know anything about women? You guys aren't arguing, you're sharing chemistry! Magic! Sparks, and all that.

And those aren't insults...it's sexual tension! Woooooooo!
The Names Nick

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« Reply #125 on: 06-04-2003 19:38 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
Don't you know anything about women? You guys aren't arguing, you're sharing chemistry! Magic! Sparks, and all that.

And those aren't insults...it's sexual tension! Woooooooo!

rofl, I guess thats one explanation.
  laff
Gocad

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« Reply #126 on: 06-05-2003 02:38 »
« Last Edit on: 06-05-2003 02:38 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
 BTW, can there be a movie in which the male lead and the female lead do not fall in love? Seriously, it would be a great change of pace.

Pitch Black

not to mention Terminator 2...   evil laugh
Jeremy

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« Reply #127 on: 06-05-2003 03:25 »

 
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Originally posted by The Names Nick:
 I was not picking on Venus, and why is it you feel the need to take cheap shots at me on such a regular basis, VF? I got a few good laffs out of it the first few times but now its starting to get old.

  laff That looks familiar.

Velour, we need to make a baby. I'll mail you my stuff, 'cause I don't wanna touch you or anything. When we are dead and in hell, we can take comfort in the fact that our little bastard is running around PEEL insulting people. If you're interested, send me a SASE.
Gocad

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« Reply #128 on: 06-05-2003 03:52 »

Where is King Herodes when you need him?
Jeremy

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« Reply #129 on: 06-05-2003 04:38 »

Note to bastard child: pick on Gocad Jr.
Gocad

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« Reply #130 on: 06-05-2003 04:39 »
« Last Edit on: 06-05-2003 04:39 »

Note to Gocad's clones: eliminate Jeremy's spawn

The clones look like me, but they wear sunglasses instead of normal glasses...
Grim

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« Reply #131 on: 06-05-2003 04:43 »

lol @ agent gocad
SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #132 on: 06-06-2003 23:22 »
« Last Edit on: 06-06-2003 23:22 »

Ok, would all of you stop arguing if you saw it like
this?

gives a whole new meaning to "whoah."
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mikey

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« Reply #133 on: 06-07-2003 01:08 »

I will...never been to imax.
VelourFog

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« Reply #134 on: 06-10-2003 21:16 »

 
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Originally posted by Jeremy:
Velour, we need to make a baby. I'll mail you my stuff, 'cause I don't wanna touch you or anything. 
seriously. I heard that touching a boy is a sin!

please check your mailbox, I'm sending my uterus. There is no SASE as I don't want it back.


"cuter than a chinchilla, and only twice as bitey" -rach
SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #135 on: 06-11-2003 00:26 »

There goes VelourFog, with her trademark scathing sarcasm...

Please edit your sig to 120 pixel height max.
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VelourFog

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« Reply #136 on: 06-11-2003 12:18 »

there goes that guy, with his non fixed siggy. . .
winna

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« Reply #137 on: 06-11-2003 13:06 »

 
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Originally posted by Gocad:
  Pitch Black

not to mention Terminator 2...    evil laugh

No I think by the end Mrs. Connor was seeing the Terminator as a viable father, ewwww  hmpf
Torquemada

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« Reply #138 on: 06-11-2003 19:16 »

This has probably been said in this thread, but I cannot be bothered to read all of it.

It was sh*t.

I know a lot of people will disagree, but that is my opinion. Not a patch on the first film.
Juliet

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« Reply #139 on: 06-12-2003 11:07 »

Did anybody saw the Matrix Reloaed spoof at the MTV Moive Awards?
grunka_lunka

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« Reply #140 on: 06-12-2003 15:00 »

guh, the matrix reloaded sucked. it was just an overly pretentious, flashy shell of the original. painfully dull dialogue and pointless character exposition (prepping us for the next movie, i suppose- but could they have made it a bit more interesting?), as well as cool but repetitive action scenes w/plenty of inconsistencies (why does he stay to fight the agent smiths if he can just fly away the whole time?!?) hurt the movie badly. wasn't anyone else annoyed by all the psuedo-intellectual psycho babble they tried to cram in? ugh...
Nixorbo

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« Reply #141 on: 06-13-2003 02:29 »

Hooray for Geek Horizon of Expectations, at least 10 times higher than normal horizon of expectations!
grunka_lunka

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« Reply #142 on: 06-13-2003 09:46 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
Hooray for Geek Horizon of Expectations, at least 10 times higher than normal horizon of expectations!

damn strait. we're the smart ones, after all

   big grin
FishyJoe

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« Reply #143 on: 06-13-2003 09:51 »

Yeah! We're smart enough to know if a movie we haven't seen is better than Jesus or not!
~FazeShift~

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« Reply #144 on: 06-20-2003 15:45 »

Geez, everyone's a critic.

I loved all of it, even the dance (great music), I liked the cameos/extra info from Animatrix and the game and that orgasm cake was great!!  laff
*starts mixing his own*
Hmm, needs more icecream...

Bring on Revolutions!!
davids

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« Reply #145 on: 08-08-2003 15:20 »

I just saw the new trailer for the matrix revolutions and it looks amazing i think it will be better than the first two. and that will be hard to do!
fry2006

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« Reply #146 on: 08-08-2003 15:21 »
« Last Edit on: 08-08-2003 15:21 »

The trailer's shown at the end of Enter The Matrix, so I saw the one for Revolutions.

(Smith: It ends today. Me: Screw you! I've still got a mission to finish with Ghost!)
Gocad

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« Reply #147 on: 08-08-2003 15:25 »

Also at the end of Reloaded after the credits, which run for several minutes. I miss the 70s...

Regarding Revolutions:

[reverse psychology]Bah, Revolutions will be a huge disappointment...[/rp]

Worked well with T3!  big grin
fry2006

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« Reply #148 on: 08-08-2003 15:31 »
« Last Edit on: 08-08-2003 15:31 »

I saw Reloaded at IMAX....so I was [scared] that someone [Neo or Smith] was gonna pop out of the screen. Flashback:

Me: Why the HELL are we staying through the credits?

Friend: You'll see.

(Trailer)


That's because I was scared of the game version and I'm also scared of the film version.
Me, scared: So that's what's at the end!
wu_konguk

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« Reply #149 on: 11-07-2003 13:45 »
« Last Edit on: 11-07-2003 13:45 »

Well rather than staring a new thread and since Fishy suggested it in the movie thread I will resurect this thread for a indepth discussion of The Matrix Revolutions. So here is what I thought

Matrix: Lord of the Dragonballs
Ok the title is not my orginal idea but after seeing the movie I think it pretty much sums it up.

Now I am not the biggest Matrix (I have alot of problems with it thinking it is more clever than it is). That said I did not hate this movie (Certainly not as much as I hated reloaded). I was particully happy that they had cut out most of the psudo theological/Philogical crap that plauged the first two films in favour of more action.
I was happy to see Hugo Weaving hamming it up in this film big style
 
I was slightly perturbed that the Twins did not return since they were the best part of Reloaded.
I also could not stop myself from laughing at the final fight (alot of people stared at me but couldn't help it) since it seemed to me like a blaitent Dragonball Z homage(or rip off depnends how you see the Wachoski's work). I mean come on the genral dynamic of the fighting, the water explosions and the dialouge that verged on "Well my power level is like a billion"


As for the ending. I was thought it was quite good. I know alot of people like to have some kind of finality but personally I like this way of ending a movie.
There was some cheese in this movie but it was not as bad as reloaded.
Granted it was better than the last film it still had alot of problems with it.

I'd add more but I need beer.
boingo2000

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« Reply #150 on: 11-07-2003 14:09 »

That ending was teh biggest load!  I'm sorry, but what was the point of those three movies if that's all that was going to happen?  So those who want out of the Matrix can leave.  Why would they leave if they're no longer fighting the machines for control of the Earth?  If the machines are still using humans as a battery?  If people in the real world have still got to eat that snot slop?

The Architect: How long do you think this peace will last?
Me: About 32 seconds.

Otherwise, it was a pretty good movie, that came very close to recapturing the feel of the first one.  Snd I liked that in the chase with the trainman, there was a poster ad for Tastee Wheat in the background.
~FazeShift~

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« Reply #151 on: 11-07-2003 16:28 »

I thought to myself as I left the cinema: "I bet I'll hear no end of whining on PEEL for ages after this."

You've watched it, you can't un-watch it, unless you could have thought of a ending which was 100 times better, quit whining.

Well done Larry and Andy, nice little trilogy, short stories and game you've made.
Good lads!
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #152 on: 11-07-2003 16:33 »

I doubt it'll remain a trilogy forever though. The Revolution is probabaly a lie, because it's probabaly not the end...
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #153 on: 11-07-2003 18:57 »

Forgive me, but with Neo's death merely reaffirming the status quo for those still in the Matrix, what was the point of the entire Matrix trilogy? Sure, the Architect may be letting folks out now; but seriously, do you think there'll be any takers? I can see Morpheus now:

"The Matrix has you! Your life is a lie! Abandon the facade and come live in this fiery shithole of a planet! Also there are robots!"

 
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
You've watched it, you can't un-watch it, unless you could have thought of a ending which was 100 times better, quit whining.

Sorry Faz0r, but that's bullshit. The Watchowskis fell victim to their own success and felt the pressure to make some sequels to rake in the cash. They used up all their best ideas in the first film, so in the later two installments they wrote themselves into a corner; there's no one to blame for that but them. They could have left the first movie alone, and the "Matrix" world they created would be better for it.

Now, as a straight-up action flick, I liked Revolutions. It just didn't feel like the Matrix, or the proper ending to the trilogy. For entertainment value, I'd give the first an A, the second a C, and the third a B (despite its terrible ending, which I refuse to believe exists).

 
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Well done Larry and Andy, nice little trilogy, short stories and game you've made.

Take it from somebody who played it; the game is anything but nice. It's buggy to the max, and the Xbox version (which I played) has some potential game-ending glitches if you don't perform the right set of counter-intuitive actions just so.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #154 on: 11-07-2003 21:30 »

 
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
You've watched it, you can't un-watch it, unless you could have thought of a ending which was 100 times better, quit whining.

As I've said before - it was an appropriate ending, just maybe not the most satisfying.  It seemed too abrupt, too sudden to me. I would have like to have seen it fleshed out some - what I REALLY wanted to see was Neo's and Trinity's bodies being borne back, side by side, to Zion, with honor.  I would llike to have seen just how the peace went, at least at first.  I would like to have known just WHAT THE (*&^%*&%& the machine giant head did to Neo that left him dead, but not the others that Smith assimilated.  Maybe it was because they were programs?  I want to know HOW Trinity was enunciating so well despite the fact that she had steel rods jammed through both her lungs and her diaphram.

I have a thousand years of power.
"NOOOOO HE WAS MY BROTHER!" and then got tired and slept.


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LAN.gnome

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« Reply #155 on: 11-07-2003 22:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
I would have like to have seen it fleshed out some - what I REALLY wanted to see was Neo's and Trinity's bodies being borne back, side by side, to Zion, with honor. (etc.)

I wanted to see a bit more of what the hell goes on inside a robot city. Is it simple survival of the "species," or has their AI evolved to the point where they have an actual culture?

And I'd still like to know some good reasons why anybody would give up the comfy Matrix for the burned-out, post-apocalyptic, robot-infested hellhole that is now Earth.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #156 on: 11-07-2003 22:39 »

...The principle of the thing?
VelourFog

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« Reply #157 on: 11-07-2003 23:06 »
« Last Edit on: 11-07-2003 23:06 »

 
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
You've watched it, you can't un-watch it, unless you could have thought of a ending which was 100 times better, quit whining.
They didn't have to write all that fake philosophy into the 1st movie and all that talk talky bullshit into the second movie if they were just going to have Neo ride off into the sunset in the 3rd movie. I'm not saying they have to have this deep ending, but don't start something you can't finish. What a let down. It wasn't even hilariously bad, like the 2nd movie. It was just boring.

scene= the ending
little girl: do you think we'll ever see Neo again?
the oracle: maybe
the brothers: if you wish to see Neo again please insert $20 now

as long as we're asking pointless questions I want to know who's the idiot who thinks walking on the ceiling can compare to the original Matrix effects.
El Zilcho

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« Reply #158 on: 11-07-2003 23:36 »

 
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
Sorry Faz0r, but that's bullshit. The Watchowskis fell victim to their own success and felt the pressure to make some sequels to rake in the cash. They used up all their best ideas in the first film, so in the later two installments they wrote themselves into a corner; there's no one to blame for that but them. They could have left the first movie alone, and the "Matrix" world they created would be better for it.
"Wrote themselves into a corner"? What are you on? They were planning on these two movies (or at least a sequel of some sort) since the first movie. They didn't say "Hey, Matrix made a lot of money! Let's sequel-ize it!" It was planned. It's like saying "The Why of Fry" was just a stupid way of bringing the Nibblonians back, and the "Nibbler arc" would have been better without it. That's the real bullshit.
DrJerkberg

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« Reply #159 on: 11-07-2003 23:37 »

Of course money is an issue. That's the film industry. But the Wachowskis are not in it just for the money. It is very clear in the special features on both the first and second movies that they actually cared about this project.

As for all the criticism, you are all entitled to your opinions. Personally, I think that Reloaded and Revolutions were at least 80% of the first one.

The ceiling was kinda silly though.
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