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The Names Nick
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Originally posted by VelourFog: Originally posted by The Names Nick: ^A perfect example of why ignorance is bliss. haha. takes one to know one, huh nick.
don't pick on Venus, she's got a better rep than you'll ever have
I was not picking on Venus, and why is it you feel the need to take cheap shots at me on such a regular basis, VF? I got a few good laffs out of it the first few times but now its starting to get old.
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Grim
Professor
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lol @ agent gocad
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SlaytanicMaggot
Professor
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« Reply #132 on: 06-06-2003 23:22 »
« Last Edit on: 06-06-2003 23:22 »
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Ok, would all of you stop arguing if you saw it like this?gives a whole new meaning to "whoah." ------------------ ------------------ "It hurts to love someone and not be loved in return, but what is more painful is to love someone and never find the courage to let that person know how you feel.." ----------------------------------- Please edit your sig to 120 pixel height max. [This message has been edited by Administrator [-mArc-]
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SlaytanicMaggot
Professor
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There goes VelourFog, with her trademark scathing sarcasm...
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Juliet
DOOP Secretary
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Did anybody saw the Matrix Reloaed spoof at the MTV Moive Awards?
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Nixorbo
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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Hooray for Geek Horizon of Expectations, at least 10 times higher than normal horizon of expectations!
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~FazeShift~
Moderator
DOOP Ubersecretary
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Geez, everyone's a critic. I loved all of it, even the dance (great music), I liked the cameos/extra info from Animatrix and the game and that orgasm cake was great!! *starts mixing his own* Hmm, needs more icecream... Bring on Revolutions!!
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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I doubt it'll remain a trilogy forever though. The Revolution is probabaly a lie, because it's probabaly not the end...
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LAN.gnome
Urban Legend
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Forgive me, but with Neo's death merely reaffirming the status quo for those still in the Matrix, what was the point of the entire Matrix trilogy? Sure, the Architect may be letting folks out now; but seriously, do you think there'll be any takers? I can see Morpheus now: "The Matrix has you! Your life is a lie! Abandon the facade and come live in this fiery shithole of a planet! Also there are robots!" Originally posted by ~FazeShift~: You've watched it, you can't un-watch it, unless you could have thought of a ending which was 100 times better, quit whining. Sorry Faz0r, but that's bullshit. The Watchowskis fell victim to their own success and felt the pressure to make some sequels to rake in the cash. They used up all their best ideas in the first film, so in the later two installments they wrote themselves into a corner; there's no one to blame for that but them. They could have left the first movie alone, and the "Matrix" world they created would be better for it. Now, as a straight-up action flick, I liked Revolutions. It just didn't feel like the Matrix, or the proper ending to the trilogy. For entertainment value, I'd give the first an A, the second a C, and the third a B (despite its terrible ending, which I refuse to believe exists). Originally posted by ~FazeShift~: Well done Larry and Andy, nice little trilogy, short stories and game you've made. Take it from somebody who played it; the game is anything but nice. It's buggy to the max, and the Xbox version (which I played) has some potential game-ending glitches if you don't perform the right set of counter-intuitive actions just so.
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Nixorbo
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~: You've watched it, you can't un-watch it, unless you could have thought of a ending which was 100 times better, quit whining. As I've said before - it was an appropriate ending, just maybe not the most satisfying. It seemed too abrupt, too sudden to me. I would have like to have seen it fleshed out some - what I REALLY wanted to see was Neo's and Trinity's bodies being borne back, side by side, to Zion, with honor. I would llike to have seen just how the peace went, at least at first. I would like to have known just WHAT THE (*&^%*&%& the machine giant head did to Neo that left him dead, but not the others that Smith assimilated. Maybe it was because they were programs? I want to know HOW Trinity was enunciating so well despite the fact that she had steel rods jammed through both her lungs and her diaphram.
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LAN.gnome
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by Nixorbo: I would have like to have seen it fleshed out some - what I REALLY wanted to see was Neo's and Trinity's bodies being borne back, side by side, to Zion, with honor. (etc.) I wanted to see a bit more of what the hell goes on inside a robot city. Is it simple survival of the "species," or has their AI evolved to the point where they have an actual culture? And I'd still like to know some good reasons why anybody would give up the comfy Matrix for the burned-out, post-apocalyptic, robot-infested hellhole that is now Earth.
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Nixorbo
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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...The principle of the thing?
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VelourFog
Space Pope
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« Reply #157 on: 11-07-2003 23:06 »
« Last Edit on: 11-07-2003 23:06 »
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~: You've watched it, you can't un-watch it, unless you could have thought of a ending which was 100 times better, quit whining.
They didn't have to write all that fake philosophy into the 1st movie and all that talk talky bullshit into the second movie if they were just going to have Neo ride off into the sunset in the 3rd movie. I'm not saying they have to have this deep ending, but don't start something you can't finish. What a let down. It wasn't even hilariously bad, like the 2nd movie. It was just boring. scene= the ending little girl: do you think we'll ever see Neo again? the oracle: maybe the brothers: if you wish to see Neo again please insert $20 now as long as we're asking pointless questions I want to know who's the idiot who thinks walking on the ceiling can compare to the original Matrix effects.
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El Zilcho
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome: Sorry Faz0r, but that's bullshit. The Watchowskis fell victim to their own success and felt the pressure to make some sequels to rake in the cash. They used up all their best ideas in the first film, so in the later two installments they wrote themselves into a corner; there's no one to blame for that but them. They could have left the first movie alone, and the "Matrix" world they created would be better for it.
"Wrote themselves into a corner"? What are you on? They were planning on these two movies (or at least a sequel of some sort) since the first movie. They didn't say "Hey, Matrix made a lot of money! Let's sequel-ize it!" It was planned. It's like saying "The Why of Fry" was just a stupid way of bringing the Nibblonians back, and the "Nibbler arc" would have been better without it. That's the real bullshit.
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DrJerkberg
Poppler
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Of course money is an issue. That's the film industry. But the Wachowskis are not in it just for the money. It is very clear in the special features on both the first and second movies that they actually cared about this project.
As for all the criticism, you are all entitled to your opinions. Personally, I think that Reloaded and Revolutions were at least 80% of the first one.
The ceiling was kinda silly though.
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