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Tweek
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Originally posted by wu_konguk: my memory may be palying up but didn't the Matrix get an Oscar in one of the silly catagories? According to this site it won: BEST EDITING BEST SOUND DESIGN BEST SOUND F/X EDITING BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
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Melllvar
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The Matrix is still my favourite movie.
However, I'm a little worried about the hype surrounding "Reloaded" and "Revolutions". There's a shit-load of expectation from the fans and movie-goers alike. I hope that the movie will still surpass expectation and blow us away.
Hoping for "Godfather II" and not "Highlander II", if you know what I mean.
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Timo
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« Reply #48 on: 04-05-2003 15:30 »
« Last Edit on: 04-05-2003 15:30 »
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Wild Wild West. I still think it was a do-able concept. But how Kevin Kline and Kenneth Branagh got roped into that horribly-written piece of trash is beyond me. (I can see how Will Smith and Salma Hayek got roped into it, but I'm still disappointed in them.) Theme song was good, though.
Kryten, I would say The Phantom Menace is the bigger disappointment than Attack of the Clones. They are both awful, but everyone expected TPM to be great. By the time AotC got here, we all sort of suspected that it would suck, precisely because of TPM. Will it really surprise you when episode III, "Anny's Tantrum," sucks too?
But to me, the biggest disappointment of all time is Star Trek: First Contact. It was the death knell for Trek, and the worst thing to ever happen to the franchise. (And that includes Berman, Voyager, and Enterprise.) Words cannot express my distaste for that film. Everything in it was antithetical to the best, most noble concepts in Star Trek.
And I'm willing to bet that any of you reading this that care about it, liked the movie.
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Lurrr
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ST: First Contact seems to be the film that most non-trekkies say they enjoy but I think that's really the point. It's got mass appeal but it was a complete departure from what the other films were about. To me, it was nothing more than your bog standard sci-fi action film. Though most people seem to think otherwise, I think Generations is the best of the TNG movies (but still doesn't come close to Wrath of Kahn).
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Nurdbot
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*Smacks Wu and Aussie-Guy up*
The Matrix was great. Quit your whining.
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Nurdbot
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That was disturbing.
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The first time I saw the Matrix, both myself and a friend of mine fell asleep in it. It's a great story, but let's face it, Keanu Reeves has the acting of a tree stump. As far as Fight Club goes, I liked it, and really enjoyed the book when I read it a few years ago. It's interesting that there is still so much interest in it, as it didn't get a very wide US release in theaters. Oh, to Australian Guy, I saw Dark City, and thought it was great. A great film noir, science fiction piece that a lot of film makers today should follow example of.
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Nixorbo
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When I saw the teaser for this thread, and saw that FishyJoe had a starring post, I imagined that it would be the best post ever. But upon reading the thread, I found that FishyJoe only had crude sexual innuendos and lame mysoginist one-liners.
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Nixorbo
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Now THAT lived up to my expectations.
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Nurdbot
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I do. And I'm not even American.
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Ricky
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Originally posted by wu_konguk: The Matrix was shite pure and simple adn for the record I liked Fight Club. The Matrix was only revolutionary to naive fools who know little about good films. Teh makers have even admited that they took alot of their ideas from other films such as Ghost in the Shell (the neck interface) Akira (Neo may stop bullets with his powers, Tetsuo stops a tank shell in it's tracks) I have alos said the premise of the film is flawed and it is. Why I ask you would these machines use humans as theor power source? If the sun has been blocked then than sort of atmoshphere would creae high winds and massive tide (renewable energy) nucular power, they are artificial life what do they have to worry about with radiation. If they have to use humans why create a Matrix? that jsut takes up energy to create ( the brain processes electrical signles so where would this energy from?) Yes some of the effects where nice but without a good plot this film will not stand the test of time. If you want a film that quetions what is real watch The End of Evangelion. Much more entertaining and also will f#ck your head over. FYI it was made 2 years before the Matrix so don't say it tooks it's ideas from there. This shouldn't come as a surprise, but the appeal of the Matrix movies doesn't lie in the scientific accuracy of the premises. I enjoyed the first Matrix movie, but I enjoyed it because of the effects, the shoot-outs and the generally high level of entertainment and excitement throughout the movie. I can't see why it should be a worse movie because the 'stopping a bullet with mind powers'-idea was used in a Japanese animated movie from 1995. Show me a movie in a futuristic setting that doesn't borrow any features or ideas already used in an other movie or book, and then I'll listen to your (silly) complaints about the Matrix and everybody who liked it.
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Australian Guy
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The MAtrix was action not Sci-Fi. Sci-Fi is supposed to be predicting or commenting on where society is, and where its going. That said, there hasnt been a good Sci-Fi film in ages.
The MAtrix is an action movie. That just happens the be set in the future. Can you link the story, you said above that the matrix ppl Admited they built on other ideas. Its not fair to pick at Building on ideas, Because its science fiction that comes up with this stuff in the frst place. They borrowed from the Ghost in the Shell, for example Because its an clever and efficient way of accessing a computer with your mind. Whadda expect, For them to let the signals be boradcast into thier brain directly, Harnessing the power of Sunspots to Produce cognitive Radiation. Unless theres a Genetically engineerd supser Sci-Fi writer, your going to have to settle for ppl building on each other inginuity. If it hadnt been for writers like Jules Verne, fueling the imagination of scientists, we wouldnt have the current generation of Technology. So thanks to ppl like William Gibson, and Gene Roddenberry, we can expect scientists to look into inventing the things fetured in thier work. Nanotechnology, and teleportation for example. The American military has huge amounts of resources invested in Nanoweapons. And scientists in Austrlia have succeded in teleporting Lasers, which could create computers unimaginably powerful. Anyway...... im rambling and im not sure where imn going with this......................... .bye
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Grim
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About the matrix... Did the Wagoulski (or whatever they are) brothers come out and say its based of the gospel? and all that birth death resurrection, saviour messiah stuff?
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Melllvar
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Mmm, having seen trailers for Matrix: Reloaded, T3 and X2, I'd say that I was looking forward to them.
Both Reloaded and X2 look like they're gonna be excellent Summer Blockbuster fare, and T3 looks like it might be an enjoyable romp, albeit somewhat cheesey.
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Melllvar
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Well, they've been held back for a while though, however, they always intended to release them within a month or two of each other. When Revolutions is out in theatres, Reloaded will be out on Video and DVD.
The trailer looks hella-wicked, and I'm mightily impressed with what I've seen so far. Here's hoping that it isn't a let down.
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