New Harry Potter Novel

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Chay, come online.  Do you have AIM or something that we can talk about this book?

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I also saw the Lupin and Tonks thing coming.  But I was still pissed about it.  She was supposed to be really young, and hes gotta be in his 40's atleast.  Plus, he was totally my favorite and I wanted him all to myself lol.

Overall, I loved the book.  I cried 4 times I think.  Thought the ending was a little weak, but w/e totally worth staying up for 10 hours and reading it straight through.

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Lupin wasn't really my favorite, but I definitely liked him more than James Potter, Ginny, and Albus Dumbledore in the end.

I'd have to say my favorite is definitely Sirius, and I was mad that he didn't get a larger role in the end. I thought he would've come back in some form in this book, but all he got was being a Force Ghost that didn't give much advice.

My second favorite was Snape. At first, in the series, I didn't like him much in general, not because he wasn't really nice to Harry at first. He just wasn't likeable at first for me. Then, as the series went on, he grew on me to the point where, at the end of this book, I liked him and felt for him. I wasn't much of a Snape fan before the later books (5, 6, and 7), but they really got me to like him. I think his treatment by others as a schoolboy and the Lily angle was the things that got me to really like him in the end and got him to being my second favorite character, and I know that the way that JK wrote it was the only way that he would be likeable in the end and make you feel bad for him.

Lupin might be third, though Tonks, Fred/George, Bellatrix, and Kreacher are up there for me. Kreacher really became a likeable character for me in the last book, with the turn around of him. Sort of a redemption. Originally, I was indifferent on Tonks, but, after the 6th book and last movie came out, I liked her more. Fred/George is just something everyone can agree with, I think, just from their jokes and all. Bellatrix is the only Dark witch I really liked. Her personality and character was likeable for me in the opposite way from other characters. The fact that she was interesting yet not good was something I liked.

But, in the end, only two of those I liked remain alive. Although that, I must say that I liked how JK wrote almost every single living character imaginable from the series, and some dead, into the book. I especially liked Ollivander and Dobby coming back.

Now to look forward to the 6th movie! Hopefully they won't ruin this books big battle scene at Hogwarts.

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I believe I've stumbled upon an even greater mystery about the harry potter series than what once was thought of!

 

Quoted by Mayor Quimby
Albus Dumbledore was be the bigmaster head of the Hogwarts school for unimaginative children for very long time.

That means that the true identity to R.A.B.[/b][/u] is thus!:

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R.A.B. must be a pseudonym!!! And since Albus Dumbledore is a child molestor, it must be his pseudonym for the child molestating ring which he is a part of!  On top of that!  The letter 'R', 'A', and 'B' can all be found in the name of Albus Dumbledore!!!  GASP!@!

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just finished, i liked it, it seemed to follow a distinct patter of, run, go somewhere, get double crossed/trapped, run, go somewhere else, get tricked, run, go somewhere else, lather rinse repeat...

I had a bunch of points to bring up, can't remember anymore, i'll get them in a sec,

Also, i totally saw the snape thing.

Still digesting everything, will give more comments soon.

EDIT: That's right, Berk, Bitch and Bastard, all in the same book? Rowling you potty mouth!

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Was any of that English?

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Go to bed. You have school tomorrow.

My take on the body count

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I thought that Mad-eye, Dobby and Snape were all crucial, they had to die for the story, no complaints, as sad as some of them were.

Fred, Lupin and Tonks I thought was not needed, it was sort of. "Look they're dead! SHOCK! Quickly move onto something else, and never look back" The story would have been just as good if none (Possibly one) had died.

Hedwig, i'm undecided as to whether she was being lazy thinking "What the fuck am i going to do with this bird for the next 600 pages?" or if it was something to give harry a jolt and show how real and messed up it was all going to be.

@ NIX, Re: Whedon Ending

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I was kind of right, ONE of the twins died! and Also, harrys "Blarg, I'm am dead, Psych! No i'm not" routeen was totally a rip off of mal/The operative's "Deadly" kidney punch!

Re: The Ending

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Wasn't too fond of it, not the whole last chapter, i loved the duel between Harry of Voldermort, i just mean the last couple of paragraphs and the epilogue. Naming all three of their children after other characters was lame. I thought the Severus as a middle name was alright. But Lily, James, Albus and Severus all together was lame. I wish rowling had made the ending slightly less lame "All was Well"? What the hell is that? I would've prefered "...and then he woke up".

More to come from me i'm sure.

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It would've been even funnier if, in the end, it said...

"And then, Tom Riddle woke up. He was in his sleeping robe in the Slytherin dorms. 'Maybe I shouldn't do the the whole Horcruxes thing. Yeah. That might be a good idea. In fact, I might want to freeze myself and hook up with that Ginny Weasley girl in the future.' And all was well."

JK definitely pulled a Star Wars with naming all the children after other characters. I mean, seriously, Anakin Solo?

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ummm, I know my star wars knowledge isnt that great, but who in star wars had a kid and named it after other people?

And, I dont find it all that odd. My brothers name is Richard Gilbert, thats my one grandpa's middle name, and the other + dad's first name.  My cousin is named after my Grandma as well.  Its actually quite a common thing, and considering what happened, I'd probably do the same thing.... Besides, everyone knows that you associate names with the people you knew.  Its unlikely that you are gonna name your child the same name as people you went to school with that you couldnt stand.

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I couldn't stand Ron either. 

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Well that's that all done and over with. All in all I did enjoy the final book but definitly agree that the epilouge stunk of fanfiction and on a whole seemed totally unnesasry

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As for other thoughts, well the RAB and Harry being a horcrux were pretty settled in my mind before the book was released so no surpises there.

As for the deaths a few did not seem needed, I mena Colin Creevey...what the hell. I will admit I thought Hagrid was going to die at some point during the book, effectivly severing Harry from his greatest protectors, so was surprised he survived.

Was interesting to see more about Dumbledor's background and his brother (which means JK must of told the film makers that the barman was Aberforth seeing as he was sen witha goat in the film).

I did find it odd that it was not mentioned if Snape got a portrait in the Headmasters office, I mean Dumbledors appeared so shortly after his death

Well just two more movies and then it should be finally over....(hmm what is that word for when you contadict your first statement with you last.....ahh yes..moron)

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LOL@ Ron cock-blocking Harry's birthday secks.

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I have a question...

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They kept mentioning that Bill's face was scarred from something previous, but I cant for the life of me remember why, can anyone fill me in?

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Originally posted by Slackit02:
I have a question...

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They kept mentioning that Bill's face was scarred from something previous, but I cant for the life of me remember why, can anyone fill me in?

Grayback or whatever his name was chewed on his face at the end of Halfblood.

Just finished.  I am satisfied with the end.  Still chuckling over "flesh memory," though.

Say what you will about Rowling, but at least she's FINISHED her series in a timely manner. I'm looking at you, George R.R. Martin and Robert Jordan.

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ahh, thats right, thanks Nix.  I read through that one pretty quick because it had been spoiled for me.  Guess I should re-read it.

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Finished in 2 days. I knew most of the deaths except the last two. That and Dumbledore's deception really were the two main startling things. It was good, but the only thing that annoyed me was that Rowling didnt include George in the last bit, and I wish she had. But overall, it was satisfying, although the middle bits got on my nerves a bit, like when theyre out and about and looking for stuff.

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Well that's that all done and over with. All in all I did enjoy the final book but definitly agree that the epilouge stunk of fanfiction and on a whole seemed totally unnesasry

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As for other thoughts, well the RAB and Harry being a horcrux were pretty settled in my mind before the book was released so no surpises there.

As for the deaths a few did not seem needed, I mena Colin Creevey...what the hell. I will admit I thought Hagrid was going to die at some point during the book, effectivly severing Harry from his greatest protectors, so was surprised he survived.

Was interesting to see more about Dumbledor's background and his brother (which means JK must of told the film makers that the barman was Aberforth seeing as he was sen witha goat in the film).

I did find it odd that it was not mentioned if Snape got a portrait in the Headmasters office, I mean Dumbledors appeared so shortly after his death

Well just two more movies and then it should be finally over....(hmm what is that word for when you contadict your first statement with you last.....ahh yes..moron)

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Actually, in the fifth book when they first meet Aberforth, they feel the smell of goats, and Harry finds the barman familiar XD

I also think it was quite unnecessary killing Lupin and Tonks... especially because 1.he was my second fav character after Sirius Black -.-, 2. With the two of them killed, I foresee a nice future for Teddy.
But generally I loved the book, except the epilogue thingy, I think it was weak.

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Ah, Snake is Metal Gear Solid, not Harry Potter.

Anyway, there's a post-Deathly Hallows article where JK Rowling explains the epilogue and other things. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/

There was also a live chat with her today, though I can't find the link with the transcript right now.

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I've read the plot summary on Wikipedia and most of what happened in the book according to the plot summary I've read in various fanfictions over the last 4 years. I seriously think that Rowling just took ideas from fanfiction. The epilouge especially sounded like it was written by a 12 year old fanfiction writer who just put it in there to shove it in everyone's faces who was together.

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Originally posted by Slackit02:
I have a question...

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They kept mentioning that Bill's face was scarred from something previous, but I cant for the life of me remember why, can anyone fill me in?

Bill was one of the unfortunate child molestees of Albert Dumbfusdore. 

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lolz @ winna

I thought JK kinda took a lot of things for LOTR (the Horcrux making the wearer ratty) and teh Matrix (the end bit in the station thing)

ok, well it's not that much, but even I noticed, which is saying a lot.

not a PEEL fix edit at all

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I thought I'm the only one who thinks it's similar to Matrix XD
Not just King's Cross, but the next chapter, when Harry resurrects and talks like Jesus. I mean, like Neo ever since he resurrected.

Btw, I wouldn't say for sure she ripped it off from fanfictions, I've also been imagining the last book just like that: camping here and there and a big fight scene in the end.

Winna... XDDDD 

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Fanfiction is a blight on the literary world just for reasons like this.   

Sure, there's the odd quality thing floating around, but... just... gah. There's a huge rant here I can't be bothered getting in to. I hate fans. 

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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221:
I've read the plot summary on Wikipedia and most of what happened in the book according to the plot summary I've read in various fanfictions over the last 4 years. I seriously think that Rowling just took ideas from fanfiction.

You gotta remember, there were only so many ways which in which a story/saga this complex could end. Over four years, and with so many fans, it's quite likely that they simply stumbled over what happened to be the way JK planned to end it anyhow. It's your fault for reading so many fanfictions! 

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Originally posted by Xanfor:
It's your fault for reading so many fanfictions!

There you go.

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Oh, now the innuendo all makes sense! 

I think it would have been best if she'd kept it subtle.

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I honestly did not see this coming.

Sirius?  Sure.  One of the Hogwarts students?  Why not.

Dumbledore?  Ok, so she never really explored his sexual preference in the books, and it does help explain why he was so effing loyal to Grindelwald when he was younger, but this seems so out of the blue.  It doesn't change my view of Dumbledore, but I kind of wish she'd addressed it in the books (yeah, yeah, she wanted to avoid controversy and blahblahblah).  For her to come out and tell us this after the fact almost feels... gimmicky.  If she hadn't been directly addressing a fan's question on the matter, I'd say this was a gimmick.   

ETA: Although I'm kind of happy to hear that at least one of the characters is gay.  I know she never would have addressed it in the books themselves in a million years, but I was always curious about how homosexuality was looked upon in the wizarding world.

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Damn it.  Excuse the double post, please.

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So Dumbledore likes guys and Aberforth lieks goats, eh? Seems that the wizarding community is pretty open-minded about sexuality. I bet there's all sorts of wizards associated with different sorts of fetishes and deviancies.

S&M Wizards, Furry Wizards, Foot-loving Wizards, Seat-sniffing Wizards, Poo-loving Wizards, Wizards who prefer hairy people, Peadophile Wizards, Naturist Wizards, Incestuous Wizards... I could go on.

But I'll stop there. I think that it's hardly a revelation to say that there's at least one gay wizard. The purple robes did make me think a while ago that he might be meant to be gay, what with purple apparantly being the international colour of homosexuality. Or something.

Anyway, I'm thinking that the majority of fan reaction will be along the lines of "OMG! gay wizards should have bright pink robes and wands that look like dicks. They should all mince rather than walk, have plaited beards with ribbons in them, and speak like a corss between Julian Clary and the guy from Are You Being Served, then we could tell what they are!!"

Because people are mature and intelligent and Harry Potter fans especially so.

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Oh, god, the fanfic that's gonna come out of this...

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meh

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Kind of makes my theories about the books seem correct, doesn't it?

Yes... yes it does.

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Originally posted by saucie:
Harry is a Horcrux is a stupid idea, second only to the crap winna is posting.

Btw.  Harry is a Horcrux.  It was pretty obvious though.... 

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Wait, what the hell.  Where in the book did it give off the impression that Dumbledore was gay?

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In reality... the sexual preferences of Dumbledore have little or inconsequential value to the series.

The author did explicitly state that he was homosexual though.  Apparently she was adament on this point... for whatever reason; it's her character though, so it doesn't make a difference to me.

Actually... I've read it went something like this:

Child: Does Dumbledore find true love?
J/K: Dumbledore is gay.

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And therefore can never find true love, as that's not real love anyway.

*runs*

Disclaimer: It's a joke, people. Poor taste, but a joke none-the-less.

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Oh boy, the fundies are gonna have a field day on this one.

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I pulled out my Bible after hearing the announcement.  Dumbledore being gay could possibly be a sign in the book of Revelations preceding the Apocalypse.  I'm not super good at my theological interpretations, but making wild speculative claims seems to work for other people!

NEDM can save us.