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« Reply #440 on: 07-21-2005 22:01 »

Umm... am I missing something?  confused

*was under the impression VF liked Harry Potter*

It's just another fantasy book VF... seriously... it lets people imagine a new world... and even if the writing style is crap and formulaic, a lot of the things in the books are semi-original and people took onto that. 

But on a more serious note: That chick that plays Hermione in the movies is seriously hot... she's probably like 16 by now.. right?
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« Reply #441 on: 07-21-2005 22:52 »

 
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Have you not realized Harry Potter takes about 80% of its story from Star Wars the same clichés as Star Wars?

Seriously, I called "Han and Leia" about 60 pages into Sorceror's Stone.

Yeah, and I wasn't crazy about that pairing either. At least until RotJ, considering the alternative.  tongue

But I must ask you why you think HP takes a lot of story from SW. They're both epic, multipart fantasies with an entirely fictional world and colorful characters that have captured the imaginations of many people, making it's creator ridiculously wealthy in the process. What else?
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« Reply #442 on: 07-21-2005 22:55 »

 
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But on a more serious note: That chick that plays Hermione in the movies is seriously hot... she's probably like 16 by now.. right?
  Shes probaly about 13 or 14 because there in the movie for the 4th book and i think think thats how old she was in the book.
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« Reply #443 on: 07-21-2005 22:58 »
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Does anyone think Quiddich is boring (and predictible) and couldn't care less?
Do any of you guys wonder why Harry Potter books are so popular when they aren't really that good? (Well I suppose the grade school reading level allows them to be enjoyed by a wider audience than Jane Austen or Nabokov)
First, Anonymous Prime Minister was cool.  And, thanks to morbid coincidence, the opening was quite appropriate.

Second, at least in the new book, someone else (on the same team) won the game.  Although I suppose that also was true of the last one, come to think of it.

Third, *seconds winna*.  On the first count, I mean.  Like I said in that HP vs. LotR thread, it's pop fantasy for the teen/young adult crowd.  It's not original, deep, or terrifically epic, but it is well-presented and posesses some endearing - if not original - characters and conventions.

HP is a lot like Star Wars really; everyone's seen it all before, but it's presented in a new way (Potter rather less so than Star Wars), and brings enough quirks, a cohesive and well-thought out background, and a broad appeal that intrigues people and occasionally turns them into ravening fanpersons.

*sigh* I really didn't want to address winna's preversion, but for some reason I feel I must.  According to IMDB, Emma Watson was born April 15, 1990, meaning she was 14 for at least most of Goblet of Fire's filming, and is within a not-sick but still illegal range of Nick's age.  And mine, but I prefer older women.  And redheads.

And while I'm in here editing, Wooter, Clarke isn't much of an author.  Anything of his longer than about a dozen pages turns into more of a dissertation than a novel; he's just bad with plot progression, mostly.  2001 is a notable exception, primarily because he and Kubrick were giving each other feedback.
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« Reply #444 on: 07-21-2005 23:01 »

 
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Do any of you guys wonder why Harry Potter books are so popular when they aren't really that good? (Well I suppose the grade school reading level allows them to be enjoyed by a wider audience than Jane Austen or Nabokov)

I agree that there's nothing really special about Harry Potter, and that media attention is making it seem better than it is. However, Jane Austin sucks, and I have no odea who Nabokov is. If you want your kids to read anything worthwhile that will make them think, give them a good Asimov, or a Clarke.
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« Reply #445 on: 07-22-2005 02:53 »

I recommend the Care Bears.
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« Reply #446 on: 07-22-2005 05:06 »

Ok... I just need this clarified... I mean... this is like mind shattering...

So.... Snake really kills Dumbfusdore?
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« Reply #447 on: 07-22-2005 06:06 »
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...I have no idea who Nabokov is.
He was the guy that wrote Lolita; which was later made in to a film by Stanley Kubrick.

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« Reply #448 on: 07-22-2005 09:47 »
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winna: read the book.

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Also, Snake kills everybody, 'cause he's a badass with an eyepatch.
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« Reply #449 on: 07-22-2005 12:07 »

Snake: Bangkok rules, no one draws until the can hits the ground.
*throws can up into the air* *Shoots everybody* *can lands*
Snake: Draw.

I'm bored.
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« Reply #450 on: 07-22-2005 12:42 »

Hmm.  My brother adores Emma Watson as well, winna (right down to the "She's hot... even with frizzy hair" comment) but he's 15 so it's possibly more acceptable.

Snake. Hahaha.
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« Reply #451 on: 07-22-2005 20:33 »

Your brother is normal winna is a freak.

lol snake, i didnt know animals teached at hogwarts.
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« Reply #452 on: 07-22-2005 22:12 »

That reminds me - I really should start playing the Metal Gear Solid games at some point.

Is it just me or did Rowlings really manage to trim a lot of the blubber from the storyline?
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« Reply #453 on: 07-22-2005 23:36 »

I thought there was more, actually. But it was good blubber, unlike the bloated OotP. I'm still amazed that GoF had such a meaty plot, even though it was 600 something pages.
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« Reply #454 on: 07-22-2005 23:52 »
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Actually, I found the book somewhat directionless, for the most part. None of the central mysteries were prominant enough to be engaging, and the plot sort of came out in a few big slabs towards the end, with most of the book taken up by the numerous sub-plots.

Eh. Still a fun read.
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« Reply #455 on: 07-23-2005 12:25 »

 
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That reminds me - I really should start playing the Metal Gear Solid games at some point.
I was actually referring to Escape from New York, but it's pretty much the same character.
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« Reply #456 on: 07-23-2005 13:35 »
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No it isn't.... one is a convict used by the government to take out the trash in a post apocalyptic united states where prisonsers outnumber the regular population.

The other is about tactical espionage agent skilled in the art of surviving in the most intense conditions on a mission to stop megalomaniacs from controlling and/or destroying the world.

And still the other... is a cartoon convict with a snazzy hair-do and a pack of cigarettes rolled up in his sleeve: Later dudez!

Anyways... what I was trying to say earlier is that: Snape kills Dumbfusdore!

It was so obvious too, I should have seen it from the beginning!

Edit: Besides... I think you were actually referring to Escape from L.A. nerdo... the 1997 sequel to Escape from New York.... I mean, I only came to that conclusion after you said he kills everybody.... you know... killing everybody.  roll eyes
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« Reply #457 on: 07-23-2005 17:59 »

OMFFFG!@!11  I can't even believe it!

SNAPE IS HArry"S FATHeR!@!@111 

And OVLDEMORTE is his BRO!@111

:OMMFFEG":
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« Reply #458 on: 07-23-2005 19:11 »

that is reely cool, im going to tell all my friends
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« Reply #459 on: 07-24-2005 09:30 »

I've seen compelling evidence that RAB is
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« Reply #460 on: 07-24-2005 20:37 »
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« Reply #461 on: 07-24-2005 21:15 »

stop it winna!
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« Reply #462 on: 07-25-2005 11:24 »

 
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I've seen compelling evidence that RAB is

I've heard that theory before, but never with that evidence. That's really interesting.  And I'd put my bet on you being right.
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« Reply #463 on: 07-25-2005 19:35 »

I read that theory in a magazine, right down to the bit about the necklace. It was either Entertainment Weekly, or Time. (I can't narrow it down, because I don't save them, and am senile so I forget stuff fast). I also think I blocked out the entire 5th book. All I remember is the CAPS LOCK!!!
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« Reply #464 on: 07-25-2005 21:05 »

That would have been EW.
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« Reply #465 on: 07-25-2005 23:05 »

 
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I read that theory in a magazine, right down to the bit about the necklace. It was either Entertainment Weekly, or Time. (I can't narrow it down, because I don't save them, and am senile so I forget stuff fast). I also think I blocked out the entire 5th book. All I remember is the CAPS LOCK!!!

Yes, the yelling was horrible. Harry was a magical blogger or something.

And that was so my guess for RAB as well. I think it's a bit sad that Time/Newsweek is reporting its theories on a children's book.
oh, and as a cashier at a GROCERY STORE:
# of HP6 books sold to kids/teens: 1
# of HP6 books sold to old people: 15
 
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« Reply #466 on: 07-26-2005 22:44 »
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old people buy it for the kids.
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« Reply #467 on: 07-26-2005 22:48 »

Don't try and defend them, it's time they learned to stand up and admit to their crimes.
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« Reply #468 on: 07-28-2005 03:34 »

I just happened upon an interesting theory in another message board...
Of course, this idea misses several key points, not the least of which is the whole "fell off a thirty-story tower" point.  Still, it's interesting.
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« Reply #469 on: 07-28-2005 14:08 »

They would probaly combine and still kill the person.
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« Reply #470 on: 07-28-2005 14:37 »

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« Reply #471 on: 07-28-2005 20:36 »

Or this.
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« Reply #472 on: 07-28-2005 22:21 »

I went to a bad part of town at midnight to get this book, and I was extrememly let down. The begining showed a lot of promise, but as soon as the school year approaches. I feel as though the book because boring filler designed to be easily gotten rid of once the movie script is written.

Most of the portions not pertaining to Dumbledors lessons were tedious and reptitive, designed to be easily deleted for the movie goer to enjoy at the expensive readers, rather then strecthing out one fight between Ron and Hermione for what seems like a hundred chapters when we all know the outcome. The qudditch also seems to have been written half-heartedly. He's hardly in any of the matches for his team and the one he's in is won a bit too easily and he won it being a Jerk. Is it just me or have they all suddenly turned into Jerks? Remember when Harry Potter used to be humble and fairly helpful? Apparently his new goal is to give 
random students as much shit as possible. I find him being very spiteful to many of his peers for no real reason at all throughtout the book.

The best part of the book is easily the end, but that is a bit cheapened because no one but Dumbledor and some unnamed Death Eater died. J.K even puts in a cheap shot at our emotions by writing in a red herring making us think he might have stepped over Ron and Hermione's corpses. After all the talk of corpses, chaos, fire, and Fernis describing himself eating children as a Human; the dust settles and only 2 people people are dead and 4 or 5 hurt.

It's an HP book so I can't not like it, it's just a few of my major qualms.
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« Reply #473 on: 07-29-2005 00:19 »
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one fight between Ron and Hermione for what seems like a hundred chapters

Teenagers.

 
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Is it just me or have they all suddenly turned into Jerks?

Teenagers.

 
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Remember when Harry Potter used to be humble and fairly helpful? Apparently his new goal is to give random students as much shit as possible. I find him being very spiteful to many of his peers for no real reason at all throughout the book.

Need I say it?  Teenager.

 
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J.K even puts in a cheap shot at our emotions by writing in a red herring

Did you READ Order of the Phoenix?
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« Reply #474 on: 07-29-2005 00:47 »

I saw his teen angst side in Phoenix, it was more of prissy bitchy type thing. This seemed a bit more passive like he's accepted that he is to be looked up to. He seemed a bit too much like a jock for my tastes. I wish I could remember some very specific examples, but that Cormac guy who tried to join the qudditch team didn't seem quite so bad, but Harry seemed to treat him badly because he wasn't in his loop of friends.

I read the Order of Phoenix, I know they're were plenty of Red Herrings as to who would die but the two squishy bodies he steps over were 10X worse then any false forshadowing in OOTP.
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« Reply #475 on: 07-29-2005 01:06 »
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that Cormac guy who tried to join the qudditch team didn't seem quite so bad

You're joking, right?  My nickname for him was Lockheart Jr.
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« Reply #476 on: 08-14-2005 10:21 »

*BUMP*

only just finished it. i know much later than the rest. i thought JK used some interesting words at some parts.

"Snape!" Ejaculated slughorn...

...right.

i enjoyed it.
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« Reply #477 on: 08-14-2005 17:43 »

I've yet to buy the book, let alone read it.

I've only just started reading Order of the Phoenix, but now I have to stop because I have to read this crappy book for school.
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« Reply #478 on: 11-22-2005 13:19 »
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I still haven't read the book...

Cause I was watching Potter Puppet Pals the other day and Olvdemort was totally badass!

Edit:  Did you guys see that hentai picture with hermione though?  Meeeeowww Hubba Hubba   flirt   big grin
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« Reply #479 on: 11-23-2005 02:21 »

Simply amazing, winny - you've managed to come up with a joke that, while completely juvenile, moronic and not funny the first 10 times around, after almost 6 months is refreshingly still completely juvenile, moronic and not funny.  To what do you attribute this unparalled success and consistancy?
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