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evan

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« Reply #200 on: 07-02-2003 23:33 »

How do you see T3 and have not seen the rest in the series? How old are you, like 8?

evan's review for 28 Days Later:

I will admit, I had some very high hopes going to see this film. No, scratch that, from the buzz and the inside-interviews, I thought this would be the horror movie of the year. Next to "The Matrix: Reloaded," this is what I wanted to see this summer. From what I heard beforehand, this was supposedly a masterwork reinvention of the zombie film in the legacy of George Romero (sign of the cross)

In two words: very disappointing. In one harsher word: bad. This film is very, very, very, very, very, very bad. A complete and utter shock of a disappointment.

I don't think this "film" even deserves spoiler tags. I'm that disgusted with it.

Scientists, for some reason, concoct a virus that envolves the recepient in a powerful, uncontrollabe rage. One night, animal rights activists break into the lab where testing is being done and attempt to free the lab-chimps. The one raging chimp gets free, infects one activist, the virus spreads by blood and saliva. Soon, the whole of England is infected.

28 days later...Our Hero Jim wakes up (naked, for some reason) from a coma. He knows nothing that's gone on. The hospital is empty. His room is locked (for some reason, never fully explained.) However, the key to his room is conviently under the door, so he can leave his room (also never explained.)

He stumbles across a deserted London for 15 screentime minutes, and it's admittly pretty disturbing. Entering a church, he runs into "infected" parishoners, he runs off and is saved by fiesty woman Selenia and Mr. Soon to Be Infected and Killed Off. Later introduced are Young Teenage Girl and Her Father Who Has Everything To Live For, So Gets Killed Off.

These four hear, on their working radio (also never explained) that there is a sole military outpost outside the city, and so they travel there in a cab picked up off the street. Father is killed off, the outpost is full of Evil Military Men from "Day of the Dead," and the military want to rape the women. Fun. The bad people die, the good ones survive, there is a feel-good ending, and there are many many things never explained.

Okay, criticisms....for a "zombie film," there are very few zombies. If all of London were to be infected, you'd imagine more than the 50 or so infected that are seen during the movie. The zombies are poorly defined and not that gory.

Aside from the 'abandoned London,' nothing is really scary or jarring. Unless a few people in red make-up (in clear light) scares you, then you'll be strongly disappointed by the "horror." "Scream 3" was scarier than this.

As I mentioned, many things are never explained and quickly forgotten. I can't come up with examples from memory, but believe me, you'll be scratching your head more than you're screaming.

The only redeeming value. Jim pokes out Evil Military Man's eyes with his thumbs. Yummy.

Grade: F
ZombieJesus

Lost Belgian
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« Reply #201 on: 07-03-2003 10:44 »

You 're right about the huge plotholes, and the lack of zombies. However, I think the radio is explained. It 's a broadcast from the military outpost, right?

I didn't think it was that bad.
I gave it a C.
Speli

Urban Legend
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« Reply #202 on: 07-03-2003 21:26 »
« Last Edit on: 07-04-2003 00:00 »

28 Days Later...
It had it's bad and it had it's good. And since Evan just revealed everything, I guess I won't have to use spoiler tags. So here we go:
Beginning, hospital - Can't understand why he didn't die from all the power outages and lack of life support in the first place. Full frontal bush was uncalled for. Why his door was locked, I don't know, but they key could just be a happy coincidence.
Empty London - Disturbing. All I have to say. But the priest in the church was hilarious.
London, not-so-empty - Pretty good, I like the molotov cocktail bombardment. Mark getting infected, realizing, and getting chopped to little bits by his comrade was a bit skree.
Apartment, with Frank and Friends - Frank's obliviousness to the situation that was surrounding him was kinda freaking me out. It was just eerie, he wasn't reacting the way "he should."
On our way to the blockade - This part I liked. To see the characters bond and grow with eachother. The 4 horses stirred something inside me, but I don't know what. The shopping part was nice, too.
Outpost - Military guys were all gay, bull crap they wanted to rape the women   :p
And the rest is all the horror, which disappointed me.
I give it a C+
evan

Urban Legend
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« Reply #203 on: 07-04-2003 14:43 »

DrSpeliomino (2:14:14 PM): And why was he naked!?
DrSpeliomino (2:14:21 PM): I didn't want to see full frontal man bush!
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krakilin9 (2:16:17 PM): that was the "really scary" part they mentioned in the commericals
DrSpeliomino (2:16:25 PM): lol
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krakilin9 (2:16:50 PM): "Watch this man get naked in the first 5 minutes!"
DrSpeliomino (2:17:05 PM): And then his man-ass in the shower later on : /
krakilin9 (2:17:28 PM): Well, at least it's better than seeing Frank's man ass in the shower
krakilin9 (2:17:30 PM): ugh
DrSpeliomino (2:17:50 PM): .....
DrSpeliomino (2:17:51 PM): ..........................
Speli

Urban Legend
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« Reply #204 on: 07-04-2003 14:49 »

Frank reminds me of Melllvar for some reason...
Melllvar

DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #205 on: 07-05-2003 23:28 »

 
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Originally posted by Speli:
Frank reminds me of Melllvar for some reason...

That before or after being infected?
homerjaysimpson

Space Pope
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« Reply #206 on: 07-05-2003 23:43 »

Finding Nemo It was good movie but it had so many sugery sweet and near death parts. B-
ShineFusion

Professor
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« Reply #207 on: 07-06-2003 00:01 »

Hulk
Highly enjoyable. The acting is brilliant, especially Jennifer Connely. The plot well thought and presented. Music was good except it sounded a bit to much like Elfman's previous work. The cgi is underrated the Hulk looks brilliant. The highlight was the cinematography which was played out like a comic book.
B+
alexvilagosh

Goose Patrol
Space Pope
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« Reply #208 on: 07-06-2003 03:01 »

Urban Legend
Not bad movie, not very scary but quite enjoyable to watch. A lot of references to many urban legends, which I liked because I have read quite a bit about them. B-

The Sweetest Thing
An average chick flick, with hot chicks and a not bad plot. B-

Sorority Boys (sp?)
A very bad plot and a very bad film, although it is impossible not to laugh at some of the stupid jokes in it. D+
ShineFusion

Professor
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« Reply #209 on: 07-06-2003 03:40 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2003 03:40 »

Adaptation
Extremely weird yet funny piece of work. The performances are outstanding. Bizare plot and charcters.
A-
Speli

Urban Legend
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« Reply #210 on: 07-06-2003 07:58 »

 
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
 That before or after being infected?

Before, of course! There wasn't much left of him after he was infected...
SpacemanSpiff

Space Pope
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« Reply #211 on: 07-06-2003 08:11 »

as for 28 days later:
in general i agree with both evan and zj, it's not that great of a movie.
but i don't think it's supposed to be one of a gory zombie-movie. what's interesting about this movie is that it shows how humans will degenerate if there's nothing to control them anymore (think of the soldiers). the only problem is: the movie doesn't really focus on that part (and in my opinion it should have), so other movies like apocalypse now! show that better.
what's left is a movie that doesn't really fit anywhere without creating a new genre though.
what also really sucks is that every time a person is about to meet a zombie, the audience is warned by some "scary" music - oh come on.
and i think it's a pretty bad sign for "horror"-movie, if the scene which will most likely shock you to death is when a guy touches a parked car on an empty crossroad in the middle of london (up untill now, everything is damn silent) and suddenly the car alarm goes off. nothing else happens, it's just pretty loud all out of sudden.

i'ld say: C-
Hulkbuster

Bending Unit
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« Reply #212 on: 07-06-2003 11:54 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2003 11:54 »

I love zombie movies and have reoccuring zombie dreams. I loved 28 days later. It's like a blend of Dawn of the Dead and Omega Man, and that can't be bad. The use of DV cameras was inspired and made this a unique flick. If nothing else, for a movie to obtain any level of originality deserves an award on its own.
fromage

Starship Captain
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« Reply #213 on: 07-06-2003 13:19 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2003 13:19 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
As I mentioned, many things are never explained and quickly forgotten. I can't come up with examples from memory, but believe me, you'll be scratching your head more than you're screaming.

Many things are never explained because they were not supposed to be explained, the viewer "wakes up" at the beginning of the movie too. The people who could explain what happenned are gone/dead.

But you are seeing too much unexplained things... for example, the radio works because it's hand operated... you turn the big button a few times and it powers the radio during a minute. And the "army base" has power generators, so they can broadcast that recording.

And by the way, unexplained things are NOT plot holes.
Ninaka

commandant cleavage
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« Reply #214 on: 07-06-2003 13:21 »

 
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Originally posted by homerjaysimpson:
Why the hell would anyone see a movie sequel without the same people that where in the first one? That is just stupid,

And what else is stupid is Joe Somebody this movie is to darn predictable.

I heard it is supposed to be a "prequel"

 
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EDIT:
The Matrix Reloaded is excellent on an IMAX screen.

Oooo! Where is that possible!?  :eek: I wanna see it! (I've already seen it 3 times in a regular theatre)
ShineFusion

Professor
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« Reply #215 on: 07-06-2003 18:21 »

Spirited Away
Original. Brilliant. Amazing. The best Animated feature ever made. Period.
A
evan

Urban Legend
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« Reply #216 on: 07-06-2003 19:50 »

 
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Originally posted by fromage:
And by the way, unexplained things are NOT plot holes.

Okay, try this on for size:

Where is the population of London?

During the film's length, we see perhaps 50 "infected" people. How do these 50 survive? Since they're enraged, they can't fulfill the basic hunter/gather routine. Since they're not techinically "undead," they can't feast upon the dead bodies around them.(by the way, didn't London look too damn clean for the middle of the plague?) So, how are these 50 still alive? Can they just go a long while without food or water? Or do they have civilization?

The movie never even tries to answer these questions, and this is just one of the many "holes" left wide-open.
Hulkbuster

Bending Unit
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« Reply #217 on: 07-06-2003 20:20 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2003 20:20 »

They all got evacuated, did you even watch the movie. There are newspapers with the headlines. The guy tells the story of his dad at the evacuation. The virus keeps the infected bodies alive through massive injury so you can assume it does the same for lack of food. Come on, ITS A LOW BUDGET movie they can hardly litter the streets of london with bodies when they have 30 minutes to take the shot before people start driving into the city to go to work.
Speli

Urban Legend
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« Reply #218 on: 07-06-2003 20:55 »

Yeah, but I still wanna know why he didn't die in the first place while he was in a vedgetable state and all the power outages... Wouldn't life support fail? I dunno, maybe it was a miracle, but I'd still like to know.
Hulkbuster

Bending Unit
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« Reply #219 on: 07-06-2003 21:31 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2003 21:31 »

The life support machines have backup batteries as well as the hospitals own emergency generators. Apart from that his drip would keep him alive long enough for the city to empty while he was unconcious, and when he awoke he was pretty emaciated. The first thing he went for was something to drink, so it all fits.
evan

Urban Legend
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« Reply #220 on: 07-06-2003 22:10 »

 
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Originally posted by Hulkbuster:
They all got evacuated, did you even watch the movie. There are newspapers with the headlines. The guy tells the story of his dad at the evacuation. The virus keeps the infected bodies alive through massive injury so you can assume it does the same for lack of food. Come on, ITS A LOW BUDGET movie they can hardly litter the streets of london with bodies when they have 30 minutes to take the shot before people start driving into the city to go to work.

Okay then, where did everyone who was evacuated go to? Yes, yes, I do know the end of the film (and the spoilers there-in), but it doesn't do well to quarantine a place and allow everyone out at the same time. That doesn't make sense.

Anyway, this is all tangental. The problem was...it wasn't scary in the least.
Melllvar

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« Reply #221 on: 07-06-2003 22:31 »

True, but did create the right amount of paranoia, for me.  I thought the movie was pretty good.  I didn't consider the points at which the movie could fail - I just went with it.

I agree about the empty London shots, they were amazing.
bankrupt

Urban Legend
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« Reply #222 on: 07-07-2003 00:38 »

I saw 28 Days Later during the week.  I thought it was a decent watch.  It created a scary mood for me.  It wasn't your typical jump out of your seat type scare, more of an overall feeling.  I was happy they avoided most of Hollywood's cliches.  Every time they showed a picture of a dead body I expected it to move or the eyes to open etc.  It was good to see they didn't go there.

T3:
The story was already written and concluded in the first two movies, so they didn't bother with making one for T3.  The movie is one long action sequence.  The action sequences were well done, but there was nothing new or out of the ordinary.  To me it felt like they just took all of the action from the first two and strung it all together.  Terminators throwing each other through things, chasing each other in cars, yadda, yadda, yadda.  It doesn't have the dark overtone of the first movie or the identifiable characters of the second.  I usually rate movies on whether or not I feel I've wasted my $7.00.  This one is worth about $2.00.  Save your money and see it as a rental.
BumbleBeeTheta

Starship Captain
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« Reply #223 on: 07-07-2003 01:40 »

Legally Blonde 2: Red, White and Blonde

I happen to be a stickler for these silly summer movies (I'll be seeing "Pirates of the Caribbean" next), but this was a fairly enjoyable film.  I'm not sure if I like it more than the original, however.  The films are really different, in my opinion.  This sequel featured a new writer and director, which really showed.  I found the writer rehashed a lot of gags from the original.  It felt like she had just rented the movie, watched it a few times and then written this script.  The beginning has a "memory book" that lays out all the back story we need and more.  It's absolutely glaring in the way it screams, "Remember this?  REMEMBER?" and I found it a little silly.  I'm guessing most of the people who are seeing this film have seen the original.  Still, the writer's knowledge of the first film didn't quite match me and one of my best friends.  It's sad, I know, but we've practically memorized the whole film, and we can recite Elle introducing herself at Harvard:
"Hi, I'm Elle Woods and this is Brusier Woods, and we're both Gemini vegetarians..."
Because we had this knowledge, we were taken aback at one (miniscule to most) mistake.  In one scene, Elle remarks about why she looks so young: "Wow, that all-salmon diet must really work."  Yeah, I know some vegetarians DO eat fish, but if she was that sort of vegetarians, you don't call yourself a vegetarian (I think the word is pescatarian or something along those lines).  If Elle cares enough to mention that she's a vegetarian, you'd think she'd care enough to find the correct name for herself.  Anyway...
The film was alright, but it seemed to be a step back for Elle's character.  In the original, she discovered she really could be more than a dumb blone, but in this film, it's as though that lesson was never learned.  Instead, we're treated to another insecure Elle.  Reese Witherspoon is cute as a button throughout though, as is Brusier (played by a pooch named Moondoggie).  Her sorority sisters Margot and Serena are served in large doses here, and provide some nice comedy when the script gets overly-schmaltzy, as do the biggest supporters of Elle's cause, (surprisingly) two gun-toting Texan conservatives.  Luke Wilson is underused here, a continuing trend after his less than five minutes of screen time in "Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle."  The other actors look a bit tired.  It's as though filming took place at 3 am, and only Witherspoon and Jennifer Coolidge drank a cup of coffee. 
The plot of the film is very straight-forward, and Elle's cause is not seen in a very serious light.  Sure, she makes some comments about how sad it is that dogs have to wear lipstick, but she never touches on the bigger (and more controversial issues) of the out-dated eye irratancy tests performed on rabbits, or the startling HIV experiments conducted upon primates.  But maybe I was expecting too much.  I'm strongly against animal testing of any kind, and perhaps I was expecting a gentler "Uneccessary Fuss", rather than "Bambi"-meets-"Clueless."  However, I have to remind myself that this is not a film to change the world.  It's nowhere near as influential or serious as Upton Sinclair's book "The Jungle" is.  It's just light, marshmellow-like summer fare; a nice sweet puffy coating and very little substance inside.  But this franchise is all about style over substance, right?
8/10 or a B
And yes, I will probably see "Legally Blonde 3: Elle Goes to London."
ZombieJesus

Lost Belgian
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« Reply #224 on: 07-07-2003 04:53 »

Hmm...Was it Kryten or was it Nixorbo who loudly booed the trailer of that movie?
fromage

Starship Captain
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« Reply #225 on: 07-07-2003 07:25 »
« Last Edit on: 07-07-2003 07:25 »

by the way evan, I don't think I've ever seen a movie that "tries to explain" everything...

A movie like that would be boring.

"Why did Jim survived in the hospital?"
-because without him there is no fucking movie!

The action begins 28 days after the first infection... And zombies are still alive. But the soldiers have their own zombie and this one will tell them how long they can survive without any food, so we can assume they are not feeding it right?

We can also assume that the zombie did't eat for a few days when we see it for the first time, however, it's still full of energy. Therefore, I can say that zombies don't need food as much as normal humans do.

At the end of the movie, (after the 2nd "28 days later" subtitle), we see zombies that will probably die from hunger in the next hours... So maybe they can last 4 to 8 weeks without food, that would explain there were zombies after only 28 days.

and about the evacuation... They evacuated everyone that looked 100% healthy, but they left everyone else behind so the infection stays in UK. I guess everyone went to another country, that country would not want to take any risk... I mean, we got ONE sick cow in canada a year ago and people in USA still don't want to buy our meet, do you think they eventualy would accept our zombies?
wu_konguk

Urban Legend
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« Reply #226 on: 07-07-2003 15:10 »

Well I finnaly got it
Cowboy Bebop the movie (Knocking on heavens door)

I love the series of Bebop I thought it was great and it seems the movie also aflcited me this way. I really liked the movie it was funkey and the animation is fantastic.
Look I not gonna bother with a detatiled synopsis. If you like the series you will like the film it's as simple as that.

A funkey thumbs up for this film.
DrThunder88

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« Reply #227 on: 07-07-2003 18:35 »

The Matrix Reloaded

I don't know which is worse: the fact that I forgot to get my student discount or the fact that I paid at all.  If I wanted to see the self-indulgent two-hour masterpiece of pair of dorky brothers I would have just played Arisoft with my brother for two hours.  I had no idea that a Matrix movie could be this boring, but I probably should have assumed it was after reading that parody script linked by Mitsui in the PEELtrix thread.

There is an old saying I devised a few days ago.  It is, "When making a movie, a film maker must sacrifice plot to maintain motion".  The Wachowski Brothers seem to have ignored this little rule to bring to life a veritable Return of the Native of the Science-Fiction genre.  The plot is overly convoluted, the dialog is weak, and many sequences are just too damn long (what was the deal with that party?).  Even some of the fight scenes outlasted their entertainment value.  At one point, I think it was the aforementioned rave sequence, I actually told my friend that if they didn't start gunfighting really soon, I was leaving.

The silver lining of this otherwise dismally gray raincloud is that it really sucks.  I say that its suckitude is a good thing because it would fully conform to my theory of trilogies, and that would make The Matrix Revolutions the most ass-kicking movie in the series (and it might feature Samuel Jackson).
ShineFusion

Professor
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« Reply #228 on: 07-07-2003 20:00 »
« Last Edit on: 07-07-2003 20:00 »

Matrix Reloaded
I agree with your review Drthunder88
I was surprised after seeing it for the first time that there was no gunfighting, which was clearly the highlight of the first one. It pissed me off that there was none, the fight scenes were way too long and the sex scene and dancing were pointless, i would've enjoyed the movie alot more if every scene on Zion was cut. Yes every scene.
It gets a C- only because of the brilliant car chase.
C-
homerjaysimpson

Space Pope
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« Reply #229 on: 07-07-2003 20:06 »

BumbleBeeTheta, what drugs where you on when you saw that movie and can have some?
BumbleBeeTheta

Starship Captain
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« Reply #230 on: 07-08-2003 00:48 »

"Drugs are for losers."

I wasn't on drugs.  I just look forward to seeing films no one else does, like "Cradle of Life" and "Garage Days."  :)
FishyJoe

Honorary German
Urban Legend
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« Reply #231 on: 07-08-2003 01:16 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Well I finnaly got it
Cowboy Bebop the movie (Knocking on heavens door)

I love the series of Bebop I thought it was great and it seems the movie also aflcited me this way. I really liked the movie it was funkey and the animation is fantastic.
Look I not gonna bother with a detatiled synopsis. If you like the series you will like the film it's as simple as that.

A funkey thumbs up for this film.

Questions: is it out on video yet? Or did you see it in a theater? I remember seeing commercials on TV a while back, but it never came to the theaters in my area.

Also, how violent/gory/obscene is it? Is it much worse than the show? I know an 11 year old who wants to see it, but it's rated R and I'm a prude. I guess I could watch it once for myself and then decide, but to be honest I'd rather take an internet stranger's word for it.
ShineFusion

Professor
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« Reply #232 on: 07-08-2003 04:09 »

Charlies Angels Full Throtle
Stupid, dumb, fun, that pretty much sums up this entire movie. Cameron Diaz is annoying, Lucy Liu is the funniest and Drew Barrymore is the hottest. Nuff' said.
B-
DrThunder88

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« Reply #233 on: 07-08-2003 04:28 »

 
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Originally posted by ShineFusion:It gets a C- only because of the brilliant car chase.

I don't know, I think Ronin had a better car chase than this film.  Come to think of it, Ronin had two better car chases than Reloaded, both without any albino rastafarians.
ShineFusion

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« Reply #234 on: 07-08-2003 06:43 »
« Last Edit on: 07-08-2003 06:43 »

Yeah, I suppose Ronin's car chase was just as good. But the car chase compared to the rest of Reloaded made it the highlight. Which probably made it seem better then it was.
wu_konguk

Urban Legend
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« Reply #235 on: 07-08-2003 06:50 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
 Questions: is it out on video yet? Or did you see it in a theater? I remember seeing commercials on TV a while back, but it never came to the theaters in my area.

Also, how violent/gory/obscene is it? Is it much worse than the show? I know an 11 year old who wants to see it, but it's rated R and I'm a prude. I guess I could watch it once for myself and then decide, but to be honest I'd rather take an internet stranger's word for it.

First I got it on DVD from the US.
Secondly there are a few bits that are quite violent (more than the show) for example Vincent (bad dude) grabs Spike (good dude) and digs his hand into his cheast then shots him. Some other things are quite bloody but there is no clear nuidity. Personnaly I would be warry of showing it to a young child but if the child is emotional mature I can.t see why not. After all I saw 18's at that age and look how I turned out ........oh wait.
grunka_lunka

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« Reply #236 on: 07-09-2003 21:53 »

T3
I naturally expected this movie to suck, and I was bummed out because I loved the first two so much. But I have to admit, I was wrong. It was AWESOME, with a bloody brilliant script and really, really intense, well-done action.
I expected it to be a lame attempt to bank on the franchise even more, but it was more then just a stupid rehash. And it was nice that the makers of the film didn't take themselves so seriously, unlike another big-budget action film that shall remain nameless...... ;) I wish someone would open a thread on it. Yeah, anyway, um..... B+, only because of a few unneccesary scenes.....
Hulkbuster

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« Reply #237 on: 07-09-2003 22:38 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
 
Anyway, this is all tangental. The problem was...it wasn't scary in the least.


Says you....
evan

Urban Legend
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« Reply #238 on: 07-10-2003 00:34 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by fromage:
At the end of the movie, (after the 2nd "28 days later" subtitle), we see zombies that will probably die from hunger in the next hours... So maybe they can last 4 to 8 weeks without food, that would explain there were zombies after only 28 days.

Think of what you're saying, man! These aren't the walking dead, but they're normal people infected with rage. You're saying a nomral person could go two months without eating?

Plus, a quarentine doesn't work if someone just "looks normal." You have to test them a lot. I seriously doubt much testing was happening when the Isle of Britain turns into Zombie Party Island.

And I maintain that it wasn't scary. In fact, most people in the theater I was in heckled the "scary" parts and walked out during the (many) lulls. I kept hoping and hoping for this film to be decent, but it wasn't. End of my story.
fromage

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« Reply #239 on: 07-10-2003 00:37 »

Well your story sucks
but the movie doesn't

BAM!  :)
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