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wu_konguk

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« Reply #120 on: 01-21-2004 14:25 »

I guess so. When you get used to voices you find it diffiult to adjust to different voices. I thought Ed's English voice suited her character.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #121 on: 01-21-2004 15:35 »

Ed's voice is sexy, and that's that.

Also, does anyone know when the final episode will air next on cartoon network? I've never seen that one.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #122 on: 01-21-2004 15:40 »

Indeed, Fishy. Indeed.
evan

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« Reply #123 on: 01-21-2004 17:12 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
Ed's voice is sexy, and that's that.

Also, does anyone know when the final episode will air next on cartoon network? I've never seen that one.

Well, they just re-started the show's run, Fishy, so I guess you're SOL. Either that, or you create a time machine and go back to last Thursday. Or "acquire" it.

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David A

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« Reply #124 on: 01-21-2004 17:33 »

Jeff, the next showing of "The Real Folk Blues part 2" should be on Sunday, February 22nd, assuming that they don't change the line up between then and now.
Kryten

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« Reply #125 on: 01-22-2004 23:00 »

Y'know, I've seen part 2, but I've never seen part 1. And somehow I always manage to miss "Jupiter Jazz".
winna

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« Reply #126 on: 01-23-2004 00:30 »

I think I have that same problem Kryten...  Alas for you fishy, the last episode is great.

Actually, the movie is the only one I've ever watched subbed, but I agree with wukong, they did a great job dubbing the show and I like those voices, but from seeing the movie I also kind of like the Japanese voices as well....  Especially hearing Ed say "Faye Faye!!!"...  roll eyes
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« Reply #127 on: 01-23-2004 00:58 »

I agree, Jupitar Jazz Part 1 and 2 are some decent episodes. We get to see some footage on Titan and we know a little bit more about Vicious.
David A

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« Reply #128 on: 01-23-2004 01:02 »

"Ballad of Fallen Angels" is on right now.   cool
wu_konguk

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« Reply #129 on: 01-23-2004 07:04 »

Ballad of fallen angels is one of the best episodes of anything ever. I love the animation of at the end. Absolutly superb.
David A

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« Reply #130 on: 01-23-2004 08:10 »

 
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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
I love the animation of at the end. Absolutly superb.

As is the music that goes with it.

It sets up the whole "Jupiter Jazz"/"Real Folk Blues" thing too.

And they still manage to go out on a joke:

"You sing off-key."   big grin

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FishyJoe

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« Reply #131 on: 01-23-2004 09:01 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
 Well, they just re-started the show's run, Fishy, so I guess you're SOL.

Son of a fucking &@$&%@*. Oh well, I guess waiting another month isn't so bad.

Judging by the descriptions here, I think it was the very end of Ballad of Fallen Angels that first hooked me. I didn't see the whole episode, but the last few minutes were cool enough to get me to watch a few more episodes here and there. And then I rented the movie, and declared myself an official fan.

Has the show been released on DVD? Or do I have to go on a big downloadin' run, to catch everything I missed?
David A

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« Reply #132 on: 01-23-2004 09:07 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
Has the show been released on DVD?

Yeah.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #133 on: 01-23-2004 15:08 »
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
Judging by the descriptions here, I think it was the very end of Ballad of Fallen Angels that first hooked me.

Best. Episode. Ever.

nagrub

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« Reply #134 on: 01-24-2004 13:55 »

yes it was good. the glass falling slowly, oh, i like. i like it alot
Nurdbot

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« Reply #135 on: 01-24-2004 15:58 »

And the violence! And Faye's Boobs. But mainly the violence.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #136 on: 03-02-2004 14:47 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
Has the show been released on DVD? Or do I have to go on a big downloadin' run, to catch everything I missed?

A few months later, and I own that sexy DVD set. Man, that show just kept getting better and better. I think Pierre La-whatever(the amusement park episode) and Brain Scratch are two of my favorite stand-alone episodes. But of course all of the Vicious episodes are classics.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #137 on: 03-02-2004 16:18 »

I love the Pierre La Fou one as well, shows how Spike doesn't really care about Death.
stolb3rg

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« Reply #138 on: 07-13-2004 18:09 »

I love this show, its just different than so many other shows, and has  just insanely awesome storylines.  There is no way you cant like an episode of it, but I have yet to see the movie, so i still need to see that..It makes me sad that a show like that would ever end, but its an important part of the show itself.  It really got me thinking about it and into it when I watched it, instead of just staring at the tv mind numbingly like it really got me to think about it.  when a show does that, and only really really rarely, then I am hooked on it right away and ill never stop watching it.  The music always fits the scenes perfectly everything is almost flawless.  why didnt that show win any awards?!  I give it my award, which I dont have in the first place, but if i did id give it to bebop.   I MISS that show so bad, * huge ass sigh*
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #139 on: 07-14-2004 01:08 »
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Dub V. Sub:  With most shows I watch both for the specific reason of seeing the different kind of edge the respective voice talent play to the character.  To be honest, I think the Bebop dub is supperior to the original Japanese.  While the japanese characters came out more like ambivalent irrerverant drifters, the american actors delivered characters that had a greater feeling and depth of who they were, more like dreamers, desperate for the next big thing.  I could go on and on about my feelings regarding translation, but I think it's put best by John Cardi in his introduction to Dante's Inferno...Which I can't seem to find on google.   mad
nerdlingus

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« Reply #140 on: 07-14-2004 03:03 »

I've only watched Bebop with the dub so far, I will get round to watching it with the original sound, just not yet.
I found the dub pretty good, but I read on another forum that the dubs are getting better these days, and I totally agree with that (when compared to old skool kung fu films that is).

A brilliant series though, the first anime series I bought and subsequently got me into this 'anime thing'
A favorite episode is the one where
David A

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« Reply #141 on: 07-14-2004 09:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Pitt Clemens:
To be honest, I think the Bebop dub is supperior to the original Japanese.  While the japanese characters came out more like ambivalent irrerverant drifters, the american actors delivered characters that had a greater feeling and depth of who they were, more like dreamers, desperate for the next big thing.

Also, the dub has Wendee Lee.   love

 
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Originally posted by nerdlingus:
A favorite episode is the one where

That used to be my favorite too.  I think "Mushroom Samba" is my favorite now.

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Shaucker

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« Reply #142 on: 07-14-2004 11:26 »

 
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Originally posted by nerdlingus:[/I
A favorite episode is the one where

If I'm not mistaken, the episode is called "Toys in the Attic". One of my favorites too, as well as "My Funny Valentine" and "Jupiter Jazz".

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Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #143 on: 07-14-2004 12:45 »
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I'll go with the climax.  There's nothing quite like that scene when Spike cuts through all of Faye's faux-apathy and tells her "Look at my eyes."
bankrupt

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« Reply #144 on: 07-14-2004 13:46 »

Great, all your episode talk makes me want to watch it again.  I don't own a copy!  On that note, I wish another box set would be released.  Not some limited edition one, one everyone could buy.  I'd rather buy them all at once, since most stores around here don't have all the individual ones stocked at the same time.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #145 on: 07-14-2004 15:08 »

Toy's in the Attic is a classic. Jet's lesson is one of the most important of all.
EvilLunch

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« Reply #146 on: 07-14-2004 15:39 »

Pitt, that scene is very dramatic and all...
But I just can't love it.
It's inspired so many Spike x Faye stories, I could just.. Grr. Ruined the moment, for me.
They have a certain.. interesting relationship, for sure. But mutual romantic love, it's not.
Oh well.. : sigh : Whatever the fans do to them, everyone on that show is interesting and well thought out, which is hard to say for many shows. Even background characters have distinct flavor.. It's all in all a very memorable programme.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #147 on: 07-14-2004 15:52 »

I love Bebop's background characters, Abdul Hakeem is one of the best.
Idan_Aharoni

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« Reply #148 on: 07-14-2004 17:31 »

Cowboy Bebop was the best Anime in my opinion... until there came along "Ghost in the shell: Stand Alone Complex" and shuffled all the cards. Movie-quality, the best climax I've ever seen in a show (on ep. 25. season finale 26 was a poor execuse to make the show continue to run). It had one of the best plots ever... I dont know how the english acting is (seen it in Japanese with english subs, just like Bebop) - but if they haven't ruined the plot with the translation, it should be an amazing thing to watch.. and as far as I understand its now being braodcasted also in the US... (2nd season currently running in Japan).
I know it has nothing to do with Cowboy Bebop, but CB fans would defenitly want to see this!!
EvilLunch

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« Reply #149 on: 07-14-2004 20:31 »

VT, the youngest Shaft brother, the shifty guy in the casino who looked like Spike, Andy, the guy with a thing for Eels, Woody Allen ripoff guy.. Bebop has to have the best supporting character lineup in anime history. Even in classics like Lupin III, there was a very fleeting focus on anyone who wasn't in the main cast. All that colorful backdrop makes Bebop very real.
Klumsy Kitty

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« Reply #150 on: 07-14-2004 22:31 »

VT!!! Forgot about her,damn how did that happen?? You know I LOATHE heavy metal with a passion, but I loved that episode...which says a lot about both Bebop and Yoko Kanno's musical sense. They didn't just come up with good stand alone episodes, they even wrapped each of them in a specific music genre and made it work, too. I never really cared for jazz or blues at all but Bebop trancends my distaste for some music genres, even made me change my mind about some of them.

I agree with David A. and Nerdlingus that dubs have gotten much better lately, but if you think about it they would really have had to s#$%w up bad to actually get much worse. I liked both versions of Bebop,with maybe a small preference for the dub(Edward is great in the dub!),but from what I remember of the commentary from the director and such I think the original japanese cast pretty much were more in line with what the director intended for them character-wise. I think the dub interpretations work just as well or better myself though. They are both good.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #151 on: 07-15-2004 02:52 »

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
Pitt, that scene is very dramatic and all...
But I just can't love it.
It's inspired so many Spike x Faye stories, I could just.. Grr. Ruined the moment, for me.

Same thing happened to Noir didn't it?

(Well the last couple of episodes)
Nurdbot

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« Reply #152 on: 07-15-2004 03:08 »

Bebop's un-toonamied English dub is great in my opinion, all the characters have the perfect English voice actors for them. Heavy Metal kinda fizzled out in the end. Still, we saw a Woody Allen lookalike so that payed for it.
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #153 on: 07-15-2004 03:59 »
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
Pitt, that scene is very dramatic and all...
But I just can't love it.
It's inspired so many Spike x Faye stories, I could just.. Grr. Ruined the moment, for me.
They have a certain.. interesting relationship, for sure. But mutual romantic love, it's not.

Exactly what I was thinking.  Faye may have loved Spike, but Spike only loved Julia the whole time.  I know it's tragic, but had she been honest with him earlier, she may have saved herself the pain, but because she could only play tough, she ended up in tears.  Spike's feelings about Faye will always be a mystery, only thing certain is that he wanted to be with Julia.

The prophecy only said he would be chased by a woman, not that he would chase back.

Speak like a child is a damn good one.  Anything that includes Folklore in the storylne is all stars for me.  Urashima Taro, AND the Tortise and the Hare are both used ingeniously in this episode.  Not to mention the heart-crushing ending.
David A

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« Reply #154 on: 07-15-2004 08:11 »

 
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Originally posted by Pitt Clemens:
Speak like a child is a damn good one.  Anything that includes Folklore in the storylne is all stars for me.  Urashima Taro, AND the Tortise and the Hare are both used ingeniously in this episode.  Not to mention the heart-crushing ending.

Also in this episode, Sherry Lynn provides the voice of a younger version of a Wendee Lee character, thus paying her back for taking over the role of Kiyone.
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #155 on: 07-16-2004 11:31 »

Was Dorthy Melendez in the bebop dub at all?  Maybe she was busy doing Trigun.
David A

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« Reply #156 on: 07-20-2004 05:31 »

I finally got to see the Bebop movie.  I loved it.  It's probably the best anime movie I've seen since Mononoke-hime.

The voice acting in the dub was excellent, as usual; although it was a little strange to hear Jennifer Hale's voice coming out of a Bebop character.

I think I missed Cowboy Andy's cameo, though.  I guess I'll have to watch the movie again and remember to watch for him this time.
evan

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« Reply #157 on: 07-22-2004 18:19 »

I didn't know there was a Cowboy Andy cameo in the film.  In cannon, though, shouldn't Andy be the samurai now, and not a cowboy?  After all, Knockin' on Heaven's Door takes place after Cowboy Funk.
Klumsy Kitty

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« Reply #158 on: 07-22-2004 21:09 »

Not disagreeing with you evan but how do you know the movie takes place after Cowboy Funk? Inquiring minds want to know!
FishyJoe

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« Reply #159 on: 07-22-2004 23:04 »

Yeah! I remember the american producers on the Cowboy Bebop dvd being pretty vague as to where the movie fits in the timeline.

...also, where does Cowboy Andy show up? I must have missed that.
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