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Teral
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License To Kill, by far.
That wasn't a 007 movie. It was a run-of-the-mill, sub-average Hollywood revenge movie. Remove Dalton (It was Timothy Dalton wasn't it?) and replace him with any generic Branson-clone and you couldn't tell the difference. What was the point in making that movie anyway?
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Nurdbot
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OHMSS was okay,But what I hate is Diamond's for ever. Goldeneye was one of the best.
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Tweek
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Originally posted by dadbot: OHMSS - Lazenby was awful and the it's just so dull. That is one of my favourites, it follows the book well too, if Ian Flemming wanted Bond to marry then that is OK by me The loss of his wife effected him far more in the books than it did in the films though which was a pity. My least favourite is probably Moonraker.
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ZombieJesus
Lost Belgian
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Moonraker was just a Hollywood movie that had to be like Star Wars.
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Nurdbot
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The ones between Goldeneye and Die another Day just plain sucked.
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SlaytanicMaggot
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Originally posted by masTers: I agree Goldeneye is one of the best ones, and cretainly the best brosnan one, alougth i havent seen Die Another Day. No, Goldeneye is the best Brosnan one.
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DrThunder88
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Die Another Day was much different than previous Bond films in a variety of capacities. Most Bond movies are driven by the two main characters, Bond and the villain. All the action in the movie involves at least one of these characters. Die Another Day added a third character-drive, Jynx. Unfortunately, Jynx's goals directly coincide with Bond's, and since there is no conflict (and since they shag on their very first meeting), the relationship is entirely static and boring. Another way they tried to shift the Bond paradigm was to alter the basic plotline of the movie. Classically, Bond flicks move like this: - Villian makes the first move.
- Bond is sent to investigate.
- Bond meets Villian and shags Bond Girl #1.
- Villian attempts to get rid of Bond. Bond escapes.
- Bond hooks up with Bond Girl #2.
- Bond has violent confrontation with Villian, wherein the Villian's Top Thug and Villain are killed (usually in that order).
- Bond and Bond Girl #2 shag or prepare to shag as the credits roll.
- At some point, Bond Girl #1 dies.
- Generally, Bond will have to choose between completing his mission and saving Bond Girl #2, in the end he will do both.
Die Another Day tried to break out of that mold, but in the end, they only managed a flimsy pseudo-breakout. The third departure that Die Another Day took was purely technical. The direction and editing (particularly the latter) were vastly different from the previous films. The executive crew opted for more contemporary cuts, wipes, and shot setups. And finally, the scale of the film's villian reverted to earlier grandiosity. After a few movies with villians ranging from a disaffected MI6 agent to a megalomaniac, media mogul who sought personal benefit over baronial goals, Die Another Day had a villian building ice palaces and firing sattelite-mounted, heat beams from a futuristic suit of electronics. Die Another Day wasn't a bad movie, but it failed in many ways as a Bond movie.
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Nurdbot
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Better than The World is No Enough.
"I can't feel pain!!" "Can you feel this..?" "Ow!!"
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SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #17 on: 01-05-2003 00:32 »
« Last Edit on: 01-05-2003 00:32 »
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Originally posted by masTers: Whats the worst James Bond film in everyones opinion and why? It's a tie between Die Another Day and License to Kill, Die Another Day edging ahead a little bit in my opinion... EDIT: I cannot type tonight... ------------------ [}:)] O-Þ ------------------------------
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Zed 85
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Worst Connery : Diamonds Are Forever Worst Moore: Moonraker (special mention: View To A Kill) Worst Dalton: Liecence to Kill Worst Brosnan: Die Another Day (Special mention: The World Is Not Enough) Many Bonds aren't bad but some I really don't enjoy much. Problem with Die Another Day, not including the title, was that every plot development was sort of "oh, okay". Villian doesn't die, he just changes his DNA patern in a DNA clinic in Cuba...oh, okay... Villian suddenly has a huge satalite that can blow up anything in a massive heat wave...oh, okay... James surfs a giagantic tidal wave, which crashes into another iceberg...then completely settles...oh, okay... Bad guys have dozens of lasers...don't know for what purpose except to recreat Goldfinger...oh, okay... North Koreans use an Ukranian second largest plane ever made as a "Observation plane"...oh, okay North Koreans still don't attack despite the fact that the mine-field really has been cleared for them...oh, okay... anway
And some of the stuff kinda demanded we just accept it rather than try and make it sound reasonable. What would have been funny, if they really want to pay homage to the past, was that the satalite was finally destroyed right at the end credits when the DAF satalite collided with it
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Nurdbot
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« Reply #19 on: 01-05-2003 15:17 »
« Last Edit on: 01-05-2003 15:17 »
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There was a few Error's in DAD. They fired one freaking missle in one direction!!,Why not loads from aimed at BEHIND the Satatlite,The American's have loads to spare..
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Nurdbot
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I actually Have a Ian Flemming Bond Book.The original Live and let die.
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SlaytanicMaggot
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They keep trying to "update" bond, he's "too old for the younger generation," and all that crap. Well, the "younger generation" just likes seeing stuff get blown up. Translation? "Die Another Day." They tried to make Bond more vulnerable. That they did, but they never gave the movie a chance to let that part of the plot line expand. I say the next Bond movie should be darker, like a "Batman Returns" darker. Maybe show that Bond isn't all Mr.-Nice-Spy, that he's got some damn disturbing thoughts under all that charm. Make him more, how shall I say this?...[Dr. Evil]evil? *does pinky thing*[/Dr. Evil]But obviously not the villain. Maybe just make it so he doesn't defeat the bad guy and save the world, like in Farscape. Although, if they could actually think of a plot, Bond being villainous would be kick-ass...
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Nurdbot
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Originally posted by phoenixie: sean connery is the best Bond end of story. Peirce brosnan is too interested in skirt chasing to pose a threat to anyone (pardoning the girl- STD's and all) Moon raker was by far the worst Bond film but i hardly see how die another Day could be considered a Bond film at all. its some boring hollywood special effects movie now. James Bond is something i used to love but am now disgusted with. *Sends Sean Connery to slap her for the non-use of the caps buttons* Lowercase I's are nothing to laugh at.Unless someone's getting hurt.
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ZombieJesus
Lost Belgian
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Originally posted by Nurdbot: *Sends Sean Connery to slap her for the non-use of the caps buttons* Lowercase I's are nothing to laugh at.Unless someone's getting hurt.
Oh the irony.
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Nurdbot
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No,Tee-Hee ownz you!!.
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