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Tachyon

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« Reply #280 on: 05-07-2020 06:43 »


I don't know why Disney doesn't release the original trilogy on DVD and blu-ray.  I doubt that I'm the only person who would buy a set.  It's like they're just leaving money on the table.

An entire generation had grown up never having seen the originals now, and I think that's a real shame.


[Palpatine] <whispers> You want Harmy's Despecialized Edition!

I shan't link it, even though it's really a fan creation, but it's covered fully on wikipedia. Head on over.

And I forget the project name but some group has been restoring one of the original negatives...can you possibly imagine the tedium involved?

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« Reply #281 on: 05-07-2020 06:52 »

I have the originals on VHS.  I still think that it would be nice if everyone could see them.
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« Reply #282 on: 05-08-2020 23:25 »
« Last Edit on: 05-08-2020 23:28 »

I vaguely recall Lucasfilms did reissue the original cuts of the Trilogy on DVD sometime in the past decade or so, but they didn't utilize the original film, opting for a transfer of the Laserdisc video....

EDIT: Yup, I was right.

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/star-wars-original-trilogy-unaltered-dvds
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« Reply #283 on: 05-09-2020 17:54 »

I first saw them on LD or VHS....after the hype of OT was long dead, but long before the hype for the digital theater reasters and prequels was on the horizon.  One of my uncles just sat me down in a front room and put it on....I didn't know I was watching a masterpiece, and I got the pure completely unadulterated without any prior knowledge or previous opinion experience.I can truly die happy....and I've seen the entire Star Wars Holiday Special.
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« Reply #284 on: 05-09-2020 20:02 »

A couple years ago while working a department store during Xmas season, I put the Holiday Special on a thumbdrive and showed it on all of the fancy 4K tvs in the electronics section. Got a lot of puzzled passerbys.
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« Reply #285 on: 05-10-2020 09:20 »

We are now the friendship. You did better than I could ever dream....but there's a computer out there in the past that died...in the middle of SWHS....because it refused to do it anymore.  I invited strangers over....just so I could put it on.

"Hey, check this out...." big grin
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« Reply #286 on: 05-21-2020 21:22 »

A couple years ago while working a department store during Xmas season, I put the Holiday Special on a thumbdrive and showed it on all of the fancy 4K tvs in the electronics section. Got a lot of puzzled passerbys.

You probably made it into George Lucas blacklist ... also probably gave him yet another attack
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #287 on: 05-22-2020 03:34 »

I've still never seen that. Is it bad in a "so-bad-it's-good" way, or is it just plain bad?
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« Reply #288 on: 05-22-2020 08:32 »

It's just bad. Portions of it have low entertainment value - most of it has no entertainment value.

It's mostly just educational, in a "see now, the second and third trilogies could have been as bad as this!" way.
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« Reply #289 on: 05-22-2020 13:40 »

ironically parts of it made it into canon.. like Life Day (aparently Star Wars xmas day) and Chewie's family.. also it has the first appearance of Boba Fett before TESB..

How ever as good as that sounds on paper the end result is.... well....
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« Reply #290 on: 05-22-2020 15:38 »

I suspect the only good thing about The Star Wars Holiday Special is the pleasure to be gained from getting other poor suckers to watch it evil laugh
David A

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« Reply #291 on: 05-23-2020 05:35 »

ironically parts of it made it into canon.

Before the prequels came out, everything was canon: the holiday special, the ewok movies, the droids and ewoks cartoons, all of the comics, all of the novels, everything from the role-playing game.  All of it.
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« Reply #292 on: 05-29-2020 00:46 »
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ironically parts of it made it into canon.

Before the prequels came out, everything was canon: the holiday special, the ewok movies, the droids and ewoks cartoons, all of the comics, all of the novels, everything from the role-playing game.  All of it.

No they werent..  George Lucas had said repeatedly that while he encourages people to keep dreaming stories after the end in the movies.. he didnt considered any of those canons until he deemed so..  canon was only the movies, TV series and movie novels as long as they didnt contradict movie canon (wich they did.. for example ROTJ novel Obiwan said Owen Lars was his brother) ..
he could contradict anything of that in canon works .. and actually he did since the whole droids series was invalidated by the canon movies wich explained the origin of R2D2 and C3PO ..
At least there was a strong attempt at continuity in the novels ...events of most novels were referenced in later ones.. videogames often delightfully followed those (X-wing and TIE Fighter series, Jedi Knight series) tought not allways perfect.. some works had so blatant contradiction with others ..even with basic Star Wars mechanics (i renember being quite annoyed in the black fleet trilogy when Michael Kube keep repeating over and over stuff like ships needing to fly away from planetas FOR DAYS before jumping..or fleets needing days to coordinate a joint jump or being totally unable to comunicate in hyperspace.. staff not only contradicted by later canon, but allready in the existing one.. but hey this was the guy who tried to write Luke's mother only to do a massive and very predictible trolling out of it

i renember Lucasfilms doing a weird canon level system not long before Disney's take over.. i copy from wookipedia:

G-canon, T-canon, C-canon, S-canon, N-canon and D-canon

G-canon was George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and any statements by George Lucas

T-canon,or Television Canon, referred to the canon level comprising the feature film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the television show Star Wars: The Clone Wars.

C-canon was Continuity Canon, consisting of all recent works (and many older works) released under the name of Star Wars: books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more. Games were a special case, as generally only the stories were C-canon, while things like stats and gameplay may not have been

S-canon was Secondary Canon; the materials were available to be used or ignored as needed by authors. This included mostly older works, such as much of the original Marvel Star Wars comics, that predated a consistent effort to maintain continuity;

D was Detours Canon, used for material hailing from Star Wars Detours. (lol)

N was Non-Canon. What-if stories (such as stories published under the Infinities label) and anything else directly and irreconcilably contradicted by higher canon ended up here
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« Reply #293 on: 05-29-2020 03:26 »

canon was only the movies, TV series and movie novels as long as they didnt contradict movie canon (wich they did.. for example ROTJ novel Obiwan said Owen Lars was his brother) ..

Obviously if the novelization of a movie differs from the movie then the movie version is correct.  The author probably just made a mistake (perhaps he got Owen being Anakin's brother mixed up with being Obi-Wan's), or maybe Obi-Wan was just lying again.

he could contradict anything of that in canon works .. and actually he did since the whole droids series was invalidated by the canon movies wich explained the origin of R2D2 and C3PO ..

I did say, "Before the prequels came out," didn't I?  I'm pretty sure that I did.  Obviously if the prequels contradict Droids they can't both be canon.  That doesn't mean that Droids wasn't canon before the prequels were written.  It's a retcon, just like so many other things in Star Wars have been retconned since 1997.

I'll have to take your word for it when it comes to video games.  The only Star Wars video game I played was the old arcade game from 1983.
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« Reply #294 on: 06-01-2020 14:37 »

ill be honest..

it was the videogames mostly and the novels (specially the first ones , like the Thrawn trilogy) wich made me fall in love with Star Wars most.. as those took the trilogy and build a universe arround it..they didnt contradict or challenged anything about the classic trilogy.. but expanded and enhanced it..

and thats one of the reasons i get so annoyed at the new treatment the disney products are doing to the classic trilogy and even prequels .. they dont expand it.. they trash it to their own gain
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« Reply #295 on: 06-01-2020 20:50 »

I've never actually read any of the novels, but I've read the comic book adaptations of some of them, like Splinter of the Mind's Eye, the Thrawn trilogy, and Shadows of the Empire.

I also read the old Marvel comics as they came out, some of them before the second and third movies were made.  At the time, the Marvel comics seemed like they were just as much a part of Star Wars as the movies were.
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« Reply #296 on: 06-02-2020 00:01 »

I read the Darth Vader comic set in the immediate aftermath of RotS. That was pretty good!
David A

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« Reply #297 on: 06-02-2020 01:47 »

If you like Darth Vader comics you might also enjoy Vader's Quest, from 1999.  It's a four-issue miniseries that takes place after the destruction of the first Death Star and deals with Vader attempting to find out the identity of the rebel pilot who destroyed the Death Star.

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« Reply #298 on: 06-02-2020 22:56 »

Speaking of Darth Vader comics, the only SW comic I have ever read is the miniseries titled Target Vader. I recommend it! A really cool story about a group of bounty hunters who are hired to try kill Vader. smile
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« Reply #299 on: 07-13-2020 19:46 »

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Star Wars: The Bad Batch, An All-New Animated Series, To Debut On Disney+ In 2021
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #300 on: 07-14-2020 10:45 »

Not gonna lie... those characters were pretty lame. I'm not sure they could carry a show on their own. That said, I liked both Clone Wars and Rebels so I'll keep an open mind.
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« Reply #301 on: 07-31-2020 20:11 »
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I dont have any problem with the bad batch at all per se.. the problem is that they are an utterly obvious "take" on the bad company from battlefield summed with the quintesential stereotypical odd-squad from war movies... the nerdy guy with glasses , the reclusive sniper, the muscle guy , the smart leader.. it has all ..  so while i like the guys .. i dont see a spin-off series centered on them..

However its Filoni.. imagine if the decides to tell their story "During and AFTER order 66" and he shows us the birth of the Empire and the transition from the clone's eyes.. that could be good.
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