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Nefnar

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« on: 08-23-2002 19:55 »

It seem to me that the critizers has a certain kind of respect about the old movies i affirm it by the just selected best movies by them that's a movie of Orson Well of the 1930s or something like that and the newest is from the 80s none from the 81' to the 02' What's your opinion of the treat of the oldies compared with the actuals? confused
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #1 on: 08-23-2002 22:40 »
« Last Edit on: 08-23-2002 22:40 »

What list was this, the AFI list had some more modern movies, Shindler's list was on there as were some other modern movies. A problem with these lists is the fact they take into account the inovators, something that isn't that apparent untill about 20-30 years later.

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Welcome to PEEL Nefnar
Speli

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« Reply #2 on: 08-23-2002 23:16 »

I like movies unless they suck, and that's what I'm keeping it at. So there.
Nefnar

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« Reply #3 on: 08-24-2002 09:46 »

Musca the thing is this what you've said is correct although not only at the list i think that if you go now to ask a critiziser what is he's favorite movie it will elect an oldie
~FazeShift~

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« Reply #4 on: 08-24-2002 10:30 »

Newbie talk good now.
j/k

What list are you talking about?
Maybe a link would give us some perspective.

I know my favourite movies, critics have probably the most useless jobs in the world this side of "Nun-Contraceptive Salesman" and I don't need them to tell me what I like/don't like.

"Live forever or die trying."
Nefnar

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« Reply #5 on: 08-24-2002 10:43 »

FazeShift we are talking about the AFI list that just announces and about your commentary I go with you critics are afraid to loose so they choose what everyone of the critics choose and my favourite movies are my choices and i donīt have to depend on something to go to see them.
 
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« Reply #6 on: 08-24-2002 10:47 »

"Right so, okey-doke, live!"

Welcome to PEEL.

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Nefnar

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« Reply #7 on: 08-24-2002 10:48 »

Thank you! iīll be in contact.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #8 on: 08-24-2002 14:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Nefnar:
Musca the thing is this what you've said is correct although not only at the list i think that if you go now to ask a critiziser what is he's favorite movie it will elect an oldie

Great movies are supposed to be timeless, so it's hard to call something truly great when it's only been out for like a year. You might like Austin Powers 3 now, but do you really think it'll be as funny 10 years from now?

Compare it to a widely regarded classic like Dr. Strangelove, which is still funny today. Even if you laughed more at Austin Powers, it's hard to deny that Dr. Strangelove is a better film.
Nefnar

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« Reply #9 on: 08-24-2002 20:13 »
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You might like Austin Powers 3 now, but do you really think it'll be as funny 10 years from now?
 
Originally posted by Fishy joe

Fishy for starting I don't no why you include Austin Powers in this because it is a ŋ?)?/)%$"
and i think that years donīt affect a quality of movie because if it is good it is goo
Kryten

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« Reply #10 on: 08-24-2002 23:38 »

The reason so many old movies are considered classics is because everyone remembers the good stuff, while the crap is forgotten. There was plenty of crap in the old days, but none of it survived 'til today. Of course, these days, thanks to VCRs and DVD players, EVERYTHING winds up being available. So, those awful straight-to-video movies'll be around forever.
Just Chris

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« Reply #11 on: 08-25-2002 00:01 »

Everything needs to stand the test of time for it to be good. Case in point: fridges made in the 50's and the Philips Marathon light bulb.
Nefnar

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« Reply #12 on: 08-27-2002 13:48 »
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Well the test of time is basic in a movie and a movie as a proove of how many years has that movie remain in the mind of people.That's right so now I'm just asking you this simple question.
Best remake of all times if you know one.Or at least favorite old movie.
 
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #13 on: 08-27-2002 18:21 »

Go to Eberts website in the movie answer man section this week there is a question about this.
 www.chicagosuntimes.com/ebert
nixon!

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« Reply #14 on: 09-04-2002 10:19 »

Old action movies, because they are so funny! Example: Rambo trilogy, Commando, Delta Force, old Chuck Norris action films... Today I cannot watch or take Rambo on seriously...  smile
bankrupt

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« Reply #15 on: 09-04-2002 12:38 »

What's not serious about Rambo and Chuck Norris?
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« Reply #16 on: 09-04-2002 13:54 »

 
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Originally posted by nixon!:
Old action movies, because they are so funny! Example: Rambo trilogy, Commando, Delta Force, old Chuck Norris action films... Today I cannot watch or take Rambo on seriously...   smile
They were made in the eighties, that is hardly old   hmpf
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #17 on: 09-04-2002 14:02 »

Yes Tweek, that is old. At least 12 years old.  Is it because you are feeling old? 
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #18 on: 03-01-2014 21:34 »

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Most old movies that are still talked about today, (Gone With the Wind, East of Eden, A Streetcar Named Desire, Rebel Without A Cause, The Grapes Of Wrath, etc.), came from books. Every one I listed came from a book, (except Rebel Without A Cause. Unless it is? I'm not sure.) If a book is very classic, usually the movies derived from books survive the test of time because the books do. I, personally, find most old movies to be better than most new movies. There are of course exceptions, but old movies had something new movies now don't. Something I can't explain in words.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #19 on: 03-02-2014 12:33 »

It's probably got something to do with how the vast majority of films used to be based on books. Nowadays, they've branched out a bit into making films based on comic books, tv shows, other films, radio shows, video games, real life, plays and toys, but even today, more films are made that are based on books than anything else.

I mean, look at IMDb's top 25 films at the minute:
1. The Shawshank Redemption (based on a short story)
2. The Godfather (based on a book)
3. The Godfather: Part II (based on a book and a sequel)
4. The Dark Knight (based on a series of comic books and a sequel)
5. Pulp Fiction (original idea - though heavily influenced by other films and books)
6. The Good, the Bad & the Ugly (sequel)
7. Schindler's List (based on a book based on real life)
8. 12 Angry Men (based on a play)
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (based on a book and a sequel)
10. Fight Club (based on a book)
11. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (based on a book)
12. Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (sequel)
13. Inception (original idea)
14. Forrest Gump (based on a book)
15. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (based on a book)
16. Goodfellas (based on a book)
17. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (based on a book and a sequel)
18. Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (original, though very heavily based on old film serials)
19. The Matrix (original, though very heavily based on Japanese animation)
20. Seven Samurai (original)
21. City of God (based on a book)
22. Se7en (original)
23. The Usual Suspects (original)
24. Once Upon a Time in the West (original)
25. The Silence of the Lambs (based on a book and, sort of, a sequel)
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #20 on: 03-02-2014 12:48 »

That's pretty interesting, turnip. Did you know that all yourself or did you do a bit of research? Either way, I'm impressed.
Beamer

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« Reply #21 on: 03-02-2014 12:50 »

Every era of film has its fair share of absolute crap. The stuff that doesn't stand the test of time simply drops off the radar. The IMDb list that cyber_turnip posted contains a healthy mix of films from all generations, regardless of the source material.

Having said that though, I really fucking hope the current Hollywood fad to remake/reboot every last franchise they can ends soon. no no
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #22 on: 03-02-2014 15:51 »

I knew most of it, but I had to check if Once Upon a Time in the West, Se7en and Seven Samurai were based on anything or not.
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