The Last Sequel and Remake Discussion Thread Part II

[Reply #160 on:]

It looks pretty fantastic.

I expected it would be, but it's nice that the trailer falls in line with expectations.

[Reply #161 on:]

I feel like the trailer is very subtle actually. The Hulk/Iron Man fight is definitely a big tease, but I like that for the most part they seem to be staying away from the bigger battle sequences in the trailer. Too many trailers feel a need to show you all the shit going down, but I think they knew that when you have that many big characters together, the shit going down is implied and they can save the spectacle for when you actually see the movie.

[Reply #162 on:]

In other Marvel news, they announced a shit-ton of upcoming movies.

2015
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man

2016
Captain America: Civil War
Doctor Strange

2017
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther

2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part 1
Captain Marvel
Inhumans

2019
Avengers: Infinity War Part 2

What a time to be alive. I think I'll go freeze myself for the next few years. brb.

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Thoughts:
Avengers: Age of Ultron
I can't wait for this. I'm someone who thinks that The Avengers is, by far, the best film that Marvel has given us to date and I have no reason to expect this won't be every bit as good. The trailer is certainly a good indication of things to come.

Ant-Man
I couldn't wait for this back when Edgar Wright was involved, then he left and took most of my interest with him. Adam McKay coming on board is weird, though, and is enough to pique my interest somewhat back. He's no Edgar Wright, but it's weird to think of him not making a Will Ferrell comedy for once. Peyton Reed is a director I really couldn't care less about, but even then, it's going to be interesting to see a lot of predominantly comedic talent take on Marvel. Plus, it's an interesting, new character, so... yeah, I'm on board.

Captain America: Civil War
I'm really, really looking forward to this one too. I've been saying for a while that they should try some more low-scale crossovers out because who wouldn't want to see something like a Hulk and Iron Man movie? And here we are: Captain America and Iron Man... with Iron Man as the villain... doing the Civil War storyline. It's so fantastic that this is happening.

Doctor Strange
Doctor Strange is a really cool characters so I've also been really excited for this one for a while. Benedict Cumberbatch is a great casting choice (though almost every name that's been thrown around for the role has been great, frankly). It's going to be cool to see what is largely the last untapped area of the Marvel universe (magic and shit) so, yeah.

Guardians of the Galaxy 2
I expect this to be pretty much on par with the first one. I don't understand why people loved the first one so much, but it was good and I'm sure this will be too. Hopefully, it'll expand on the story and take things a bit deeper and so forth, in order to improve on the first.

Thor: Ragnarok
I wasn't too excited for the third Thor film but the "Ragnarok" subtitle has me excited. Norse doomsday? I'm in.

Black Panther
I have never and I don't think I ever will care about Black Panther, but it's cool that they're making a Marvel movie with a black lead at least. I trust Marvel to churn out a film that I'll enjoy but the character doesn't interest me and I haven't particularly enjoyed any of the (admittedly few) Black Panther comics that I've read.

Avengers: Infinity War Part 1
It's great that they're finally getting to The Infinity Gems and Thanos but it's hardly a surprise. What is a surprise is that they're splitting the third Avengers film in half and I don't know how to feel about it. Pretty much every time a film has been split in half like this, it hasn't ended particularly well if you ask me. Deathly Hallows: Part 1 was gash, for instance. The difference here is that they're building these films from the ground up rather than just doing a straight adaptation of a clear-cut story. I know that they're adapting comic books, but they're being very liberal with it and I'm pretty sure that they'll be able to create a couple of films that work as standalone pieces and a coherent whole at the same time. I almost wish they were just treating them as "The Avengers 3" and "The Avengers 4", even if the story of 4 is a direct continuation of 3.

Captain Marvel
It's great that they're finally getting round to a female-lead Marvel film, too, though I can't say I'm very familiar with the character. I'm happy for Marvel to try introducing anyone at this point.

Inhumans
This is one that's been openly in development for ages. Again, I'm not remotely familiar with them but I'm happy for Marvel to try introducing anyone at this point.

Avengers: Infinity War Part 2
Most of my thoughts on Part 1 are just as relevant here, but also I kind of wonder where on Earth they'll go after this. I mean, they've arguably been building up to this film since Thor and it's certainly been what they've been working towards since The Avengers. That said, they've got a hell of a lot of films before this comes out and I'm sure they'll start laying down some threads to flow into future stories. They're nearing the bottom of the barrel when it comes to big, obvious storylines to adapt, though. There'll be Planet Hulk and I'm sure there are a handful that I'm not aware of, but that's largely it unless you go into weird territory that we're never, ever going to see on screen such as Marvel Zombies.

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I'm not too bummed about Avengers 3 being split in two, because like you said it's being built from the ground up (and obviously not a last-minute idea if it's been decided this early).

[Reply #165 on:]

Looks like it could be pretty cool. Also, ironically, isn't the redheaded guy the one who plays an AI in a Black Mirror episode?

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Also, ironically, isn't the redheaded guy the one who plays an AI in a Black Mirror episode?

Indeed it is.

[Reply #167 on:]

WAT... so many questions...

[Reply #168 on:]

I had no idea this was a thing that was being made, but apparently the first trailer came out today:



I haven't decided yet if this is going to be awesome or terrible, but I'm pleasantly surprised at the animation itself; there's a warmth and near-delicacy to it that I don't ordinarily associate with computer-generated garbage, and while I definitely would have preferred a feature-length 2D-animated film (the very idea!), my interest has still been piqued.

[Reply #169 on:]

Ditto. The animation is really unique and well done. I like the use of lines.

[Reply #170 on:]

(on a side note who is that fucking narrator, it's driving me nuts)

[Reply #171 on:]

(on a side note who is that fucking narrator, it's driving me nuts)

I'm probably waaaaaay off, but it reminds me of Ben Kingsley.

[Reply #172 on:]

I think it's Geoffrey Rush.

[Reply #173 on:]

Rush, bingo.
For some reason I thought he was British but I can hear the Oz twang now.

[Reply #174 on:]

This is pretty fascinating.

Basically, the hackers targeting Sony (that are blatantly North Korea trying to stop the release of The Interview) just released a load of information about what's been going on behind the scenes with regards to Spider-Man and the obvious fact that Sony is desperate to have a slice of the current cinematic superhero universe trend but can't figure out how to make a single satisfying Spider-Man film without Sam Raimi.
Apparently:

• Chris Miller and Phil Lord are developing an animated Spider-Man comedy movie. This could actually be great - I don't see why it wouldn't work, though it would basically be an admission of Sony not being able to do Spider-Man properly - also, I think it would be better if it was live-action.
• Sony tried to bring Sam Raimi back as producer and director but, presumably, he didn't want anything to do with it - especially as I imagine they'd want him to operate within the reboot's continuity rather than that of his three films.
• Sony and Marvel Studios were in (failed) discussions to have Spider-Man appear in the upcoming Captain America: Civil War (which would have been awesome). For those of you who don't know, Spider-Man is a huge part of the story in the comic books, so they're going to have to change quite a few things to make it work as a film.
• Sony and Marvel Studios were in (failed) discussions for Marvel Studios to create a new Spider-Man trilogy that makes up part of the Marvel cinematic universe, with Sony retaining the creative rights and, presumably, a large chunk of the revenue.

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Monkeys could handle the franchise better than Sony executives. It really boggles the mind how inept they are.

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In more "What in God's name are Sony thinking?" news, they're considering making the third 21 Jump Street a Men in Black crossover.

To be fair, that one would be kind of awesome. They're going to have to go big to top 22 Jump Street - especially given the amazing montage of ridiculous sequels that plays over the end credits. Tonally, the Men in Black films and 21 Jump Street aren't too different and Men in Black 2 and 3 were both pretty poor, so I'm not bothered about what they do to that franchise at this point.

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I...hu...wha....baguh?

I can totally see the idea of the Jump Street movies becoming ridiculous genre affairs with nonsense premises (like aliens), that would be great and a good next logical step for the series. But how exactly is it worth being a crossover if there are none of the main characters from Men In Black? They'd just be abusing the name of that franchise for no reason.

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I expect that some aliens like Frank the Pug may show up and that Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones will probably make a surprise cameo near the end like Johnny Depp and that other one in the first 21 Jump Street movie.

They're moving ahead with Men in Black 4 with no Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones, anyway, so they might as well just slap it together with 21 Jump Street - though, from 21 Jump Street's point of view, it would work just as well with a generic secret government agency that deals with aliens.
Of course, things like the neuralizer might come under copyright... but if Sony owns the movie rights, it shouldn't be a problem. I don't care either way. I tend to enjoy crossovers as cheap as they are.

[Reply #179 on:]

Everything about this movies teaser campaign is working for me, Hitler Riding a T-Rex, ZombieJesus comes back and kicks arse, and Dancing reptilian Putin.   Yup, that sounds like a winner, to me.

[Reply #180 on:]

Zeej!
Slightly related note Melll have you seen the short extravaganza that is Fist Of Jesus?

[Reply #181 on:]

Trailer for Ant-Man



It's honestly hard to get excited from that trailer alone, since it a pretty generic trailer. However I'm glad they addressed the fact that "Ant-Man" is a really lame name. The suit design also looks neat.

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The humour seems to play properly, so that's a good sign.

I can't say I'm as excited for this as I would be had Edgar Wright directed it, but I'm still looking forward to it.

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My interest depleted entirely the moment Wright bailed.

[Reply #184 on:]

So did mine, but it's been slowly growing again as if it were just one of the next Marvel films and never had any involvement from Wright - sort of like my vague anticipation of Captain Marvel and Inhumans. It's not even comparable to how excited I was for it with Wright on board, though, but hey - he's still one of the driving forces behind the script, even if Adam McKay and Paul Rudd are the ones getting the official credit. I expect to be able to see some of his DNA in there, somewhere, at least.

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Ghostbusters reboot cast confirmed

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/27/7924293/these-are-your-new-all-female-ghostbusters

[Reply #186 on:]

Hmm, as a big fan of the original, I've got very mixed feelings about this....  One can only hope that it's somewhere near....

[Reply #187 on:]

I still don't think they should touch Ghostbusters at all, though a reboot with a brand new (and all-female) cast is far less offensive to me than the previously-rumoured idea of a direct sequel, but without Bill Murray or Harold Ramis.

I still don't see the fucking point of all these reboots and remakes, though. Has Hollywood truly become this creatively bankrupt, or are studios just not willing to take a risk on anything new?

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I got a feeling it'll end up being bridesmaids with ghosts

[Reply #189 on:]

Bridesmaids with ghosts actually sounds awesome.

I would rather Ghostbusters 3 than a reboot but, I mean, I would like Ghostbusters 3 to have already been made 20 years ago.

[Reply #190 on:]

Yeah, I think what killed the chances of that was them keep trying to get Murray when he said he never wanted to do it. I'm sure they could've tried to get a third one done without him shortly after the second, but it's obviously too late for that now

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Trailer for the Fantastic Four reboot:


Not an amazing trailer, but it can't possibly be worse than the original. Also... someone get Thing some pants.

[Reply #192 on:]

Looks ok, I guess it makes sense that they're going with more of the ultimate timeline so they can get a younger cast

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Re: Ghostbusters

Hmm, as a big fan of the original, I've got very mixed feelings about this....  One can only hope that it's somewhere near....

If you're expecting it to be close to as good as the original, of course you're going to be disappointed...that's an extremely high bar. I'm excited for it anyway, though. The premise of Ghostbusters is a winner that deserves to be put to more use, and an all-female comedy cast is one of the only fresh ideas I can imagine for the franchise barring them getting the entire original cast back. That said, I'm slightly disappointed in the cast. Kristen Wiig seems like a good choice, but there are much funnier female comedic actors they could have picked rather than the mostly okay SNL ladies they got. Still, with Paul Feig at the helm this has potential to be good on its own merits, regardless of how it measures up to the original.

Re: Fantastic Four

Looks ok, I guess it makes sense that they're going with more of the ultimate timeline so they can get a younger cast

They actually seem to have gotten a really good cast for it, and as someone who is not a comics purist whatsoever, their age doesn't bother me at all. The trailer really gives almost no idea of what to expect though other than the movie will be dark-ish. I'm interested to see it, I liked Chronicle so as far as I'm concerned this could go either way in terms of quality.

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Re: Ghostbusters:

I don't like Kristen Wiig and her constantly the most-awkward-person-in-the-room schtick. I've accepted that she will pop up in things I want to watch because the majority finds her so funny, but 95% of the time I can't stand her. So that played a big role as to why I didn't care that much for Bridesmaids. Melissa McCarthy, while the only thing I remember about Bridesmaids and an actress I want to like so bad, has made a series of comedies containing one of the most unintentionally hateable characters I've ever seen. The Heat was okay, but Identity Thief and Tammy are terrible movies. I have very little knowledge of the SNL members, so I find these pickings to be rather predictable.

Tl;dr: Because of my resentment of half of this cast, I'll probably skip this movie.

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Kristen Wiig is a national treasure and you're a terrible person.

Though, seriously, if you can find the episode of The Joe Schmo Show with the talent show, WATCH IT. I know it's a faux reality show, but this is a recommendation coming from someone who despises reality tv. If it doesn't make you love Kristen Wiig, you officially have no soul.

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I still don't see the fucking point of all these reboots and remakes, though. Has Hollywood truly become this creatively bankrupt, or are studios just not willing to take a risk on anything new?

Is that a rhetorical question?  Is this a rhetorical question?

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Ant-Man and Fantastic 4 both seem like they'll be disappointing. The idea of rebooting Ghostbusters sounds like a catastrophe biding its time, and I'm still not sure what my expectations for Star Wars are.

I think I might have to avoid film news for a little while. It angries up the blood.

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I don't like Kristen Wiig and her constantly the most-awkward-person-in-the-room schtick. I've accepted that she will pop up in things I want to watch because the majority finds her so funny, but 95% of the time I can't stand her. So that played a big role as to why I didn't care that much for Bridesmaids. Melissa McCarthy, while the only thing I remember about Bridesmaids and an actress I want to like so bad, has made a series of comedies containing one of the most unintentionally hateable characters I've ever seen. The Heat was okay, but Identity Thief and Tammy are terrible movies.

Like a lot of people on SNL, I didn't care for Wiig during her time on the show much at all, but have warmed up to her since as she's shown quite a bit of versatility I think. As for McCarthy, I agree that she was great in Bridesmaids, but like you said, everything else she's been in has been terrible.

Basically, for Ghostbusters to work it's going to come down to the script and directing to pull it together. I'm skeptical but I wouldn't write it off just yet.

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I'm kind of annoyed that they're flat out rebooting Ghostbusters. It seems so unnecessary to me, to wipe the slate clean like that. I'd always opt for building on what came first with this kind of thing. I wish it was just a new film with a new cast set in the same universe as the original Ghostbusters movies. It could start off similarly to Ghostbusters 2 with ghosts being mundane now and the busters having gone out of business, only for new characters to take over the business and what have you. It would also allow for the fun of original characters popping up more organically that what they've got planned (which is, apparently, Bill Murray playing an entirely new character - a paranormal debunker who serves as an antagonist).

Still, I liked Bridesmaids and I like Kristen Wiig and I feel that the concept of ghostbusting is broad enough to be fun under a hundred different executions, so I'm still happy about it.