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PEE Poll: Star Trek: The Best
Original Series
The Next Generation
Deep Space 9
Voyager
Enterprise

DrThunder88

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« Reply #80 on: 04-12-2003 22:39 »
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Originally posted by Teral:
Anybody who put "Enterprise" and "Voyager" ahead of DS9, deserves what's coming to him.

::airmails bloodstained knife to Houghton, NY::


What...AIDS?
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« Reply #81 on: 04-13-2003 02:04 »
« Last Edit on: 05-12-2004 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by kip:
- Enterprise
- Voy
- DS9
- TOS
- TNG

No, no, no - you've got it upside down   ;).

Anyway, to each his own - and I liked "Future's End", too (Season Three episode, before it became the Seven of Nine show).

What I'll be interested to see is what this "big change" coming up in Enterprise is. DS9, Voyager and TNG were all changed at some point in their run (and Voyager and TNG was definitely somewhere around their third seasons) - Voyager's the only one it didn't work for.

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« Reply #82 on: 04-14-2003 06:36 »

Bring on Farscape bebe. TNG can go where no series has gone before... to hell! mwhahahahah

*oh crap... here comes the flames...  :(*
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« Reply #83 on: 04-14-2003 06:39 »

next generation woops all the others. i only watch next generation, and none of the other series
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« Reply #84 on: 04-16-2003 12:16 »
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Originally posted by kip:
Bring on Farscape bebe. TNG can go where no series has gone before... to hell! mwhahahahah

*oh crap... here comes the flames...    :(*

Do you have suicidal tendencies, kip?
*makes a nice phaser burn hole in kip's forehead*
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« Reply #85 on: 05-11-2004 22:41 »

A hurray for DS9  :)
That's science-fiction, how I love it: politics, strange cultures, sociological ideas, a real storry which takes more than just one episode to be done ...  :)
Cardassia, Bajor, Section 32, Garak, Gul Dukat, the Dominion, the Breel, the Romulans, etc ...  :)
Damar & Ziyal  :love:
Kira "Leela from DS9" Nerys  :love: :love
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« Reply #86 on: 05-12-2004 01:03 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLesbianLeela:
A hurray for DS9   :)
That's science-fiction, how I love it: politics, strange cultures, sociological ideas, a real storry which takes more than just one episode to be done ...   :)

Have you ever seen Babylon 5?  I think you'd like it.
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« Reply #87 on: 05-12-2004 02:17 »

Well those of you that knew me as a DS9 hater will now be glad that I have been converted. Since I had all the TNG DVD sets, I thought hey it cant hurt, I'll buy DS9 season 1 and see how I go. DS9 was the series I had seen the least of and from what I had seen on 12am time slot they have it here, it kept sending me to sleep, but after watching them in the right frame of mind and when I'm not half asleep they are quite good. Kudos to it!

Of course I'll be buying the Voyager sets first, but when I have the spare cash I will hopefully fill out the rest of my DS9 collection
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« Reply #88 on: 05-12-2004 03:01 »

I'm one of the minority in that I prefer the  original series in all its 60's cheesiness.
I'm not sure why, I guess I got bored of the 1001 things the crew in the other series always seem to have an explanation - "If we re-route the positron matrix..." etc... Also my dad has every episode on VHS and has for about 10-12 years.
Also the original crew are tops when it comes to the films as well, I can't stand TNG's film, there like elongated episodes (except for Patrick Stewart as he is a good actor).
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« Reply #89 on: 05-12-2004 03:25 »

My favourite series is DS9 (well duh, it's the best), and the rest fall underneath that in a random hodgepodge depending on my mood at the moment. It's hard to pin it down (though VOY is usually the bottom).
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« Reply #90 on: 05-12-2004 03:34 »

Yeah, I agree, VOY was shit, strange how it ended up like that as it started with a good premise being stuck in the delta quadrant, but for me, it didn't quite stand up after the 2nd season.
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« Reply #91 on: 05-12-2004 04:21 »

It's tricky to choose between DS9 and TNG, but I'll probably go for the latter. It was my first series and the one I could talk about the most (when I was about 9 my class teacher was a big TNG fan, it was quite interesting to talk about it with him).
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« Reply #92 on: 05-12-2004 04:25 »
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Originally posted by David A:
Have you ever seen Babylon 5? I think you'd like it.

I've seen it once. It's just that DS9 is more often in German TV than Babylon 5.
Anyway, the guy who made one Babylon 5 music CD, and to my knowledge as well the theme song, Christopher Franke, did as well a CD for Perry Rhodan which was realy good    :)
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« Reply #93 on: 05-12-2004 07:45 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLesbianLeela:
A hurray for DS9   :)
That's science-fiction, how I love it: politics, strange cultures, sociological ideas, a real storry which takes more than just one episode to be done ...   :)
Cardassia, Bajor, Section 31, Garak, Gul Dukat, the Dominion, the Breen, the Romulans, etc ...   :)
Damar & Ziyal   :love:
Kira "Leela from DS9" Nerys   :love: :love

wow, a sociologist who likes DS9?  :cool:

which is why I will forgive you the mistakes which you made in your post...  ;)
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« Reply #94 on: 05-12-2004 07:55 »

My opinion changed on DS9 when I went of to the US a few months back and found SpikeTV running a DS9 marathon...now I think it's even better  :)

And TNG is a tie with DS9...Q is undoubtedly the best sci-fi chracter ever. EVER!
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« Reply #95 on: 05-12-2004 09:04 »
« Last Edit on: 05-12-2004 09:04 »

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
Q is undoubtedly the best sci-fi chracter ever. EVER!

I must agree, I hope he appears on Enterprise and undoes all the crimes that show has commited
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« Reply #96 on: 05-12-2004 09:16 »

Heck, I've only seen a few Epsiodes of TNG, including the finale, and even I love Q. Picard's also completly awesome. I love it when he goes off Shakespeare<sp?> style. Also, First Contact was groovy. (And that's all I'll say about the TNG movies  :p ).

Alas, my exposure to Star Trek of late has been a bit lacking, due to access only to free-to-air TV, very late night showings, and uni timetables that require me to get up annoyingly early in the morning. I caught the last of DS9, which seemed pretty good (what can I say, I'm a sucker for long and well connected story arcs). It seemed to be getting a little fantastical by the end... though, being Star Trek, I'm sure there was a good scientific explantion behind it all.

Seen only the first series of Voyager. Going by popular opinion, I guess that was fortunate.

Seen a tiny bit of Enterprise, and got right royally pissed off when The Borg turned up for no good reason. Got further pissed off when the ship's docter 'cured' himself of Borg-ishness with the technology of the day.

Never seen TOS, cept for "The Menagerie." Which it turns out was just enough for me to appreciate "Where No Fan Has Gone Before" even more.
Did see one episode of TAS. "Captain, the walls are made of anti-matter. If the ship touches them... it will explode."  :laff:
So yeah. Go TNG!
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« Reply #97 on: 05-12-2004 10:17 »

TNG still rules in my book. I got the third season on DVD a few months ago and after watching the whole thing I was just struck dumb. I had forgotten how well-written it was, and realised there was nothing today that could match it. B5 and Farscape have comes close, but they were very different shows. No Star Trek series has ever matched TNG for me.

TOS and DS9 tend to occupy the same space for me- sometime I like them, sometimes I don't. DS9's problem is that it veered dramatically from what Star Trek was about (not that it was a bad thing per se) and I couldn't help comparing it to B5. But after about the fifth season I couldn't stand to watch it anymore, except for the final episode which had me cringing.

Voyager and Enterprise will not be mentioned. They are the reason Star Trek should have been put out of it's misery.

Now, where's my flame-retardant anorak...
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« Reply #98 on: 05-12-2004 10:33 »

DS9 is by far the best series. I loved the characters and the more stationary environment of the show. And the Dominion War was one hell of a bonus too.

By overall i prefer the 10 Star Trek movies to the series' anyday.

KHANNNNNNNN!!!
Grim

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« Reply #99 on: 05-13-2004 01:56 »

I dont know what everyone's problem is with Voyager, there's nothing wrong with it really. When I heard about it I expected a B grade version of the TNG crew and thats what we got, accept it for what it is damn it!
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« Reply #100 on: 05-13-2004 02:19 »
« Last Edit on: 05-13-2004 02:19 »

I'm not into Star Trek, but I hear the first series is the best.  Futurama is my Star Trek.

#100   :D
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« Reply #101 on: 05-14-2004 00:01 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
I'm not into Star Trek, but I hear the first series is the best.  Futurama is my Star Trek.

#100    :D

If you dont like Star Trek then you can just Geeettttout!
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« Reply #102 on: 05-15-2004 09:24 »
« Last Edit on: 05-15-2004 09:24 »

I'd have to say that DS9 is the best. The storylines follow on from each other much better than in any of the others!

Also I hate it when people just make a random comment to boost their rank. By the way this is my 50th post!
  :D
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« Reply #103 on: 05-15-2004 17:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Grim:
I dont know what everyone's problem is with Voyager, there's nothing wrong with it really. When I heard about it I expected a B grade version of the TNG crew and thats what we got, accept it for what it is damn it!

Yup. And it's got the doctor and 7of9 to boot.  :) DS9 sure is great most of the time, but the Ferengi/Moogie/Keiko episodes suck big time.  :puke:
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« Reply #104 on: 05-15-2004 19:08 »

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
 If you dont like Star Trek then you can just Geeettttout!



I didn't say I didn't like Star Trek.   I'm more into Star Wars, more action.  Star Trek offered a more scienfic approach, talking mostly.  But I show respect and give props to show and its impact on pop culture ie Futurama.
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« Reply #105 on: 05-15-2004 19:39 »

I respect you liking Futurama, but Star Wars can suck my ass. Fucking George Lucas.
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« Reply #106 on: 05-15-2004 22:26 »
« Last Edit on: 05-15-2004 22:26 »

I think I've liked different series at different stages, first TNG when I was a early-teen, then Voyager when it came out, then realising DS9 kicked its ass, I settled on that!
It's more Space Opera-ish, with the big battles towards the end.   :)

I never got into TOS.

Edit: I seemed to like Enterprise on the last page, but now I think it's "Meh".  :hmpf:
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« Reply #107 on: 05-16-2004 14:35 »

I love this season of Enterprise. I havent seen one bad episode and i think the series is really starting to take off creatively. The whole "Xindi" storyline was a great idea, which had never been attempted b4. I cant wait for the Season finale...  :D
Teral

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« Reply #108 on: 05-16-2004 15:27 »
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
DS9 is by far the best series. I loved the characters and the more stationary environment of the show. And the Dominion War was one hell of a bonus too.

By overall i prefer the 10 Star Trek movies to the series' anyday.

KHANNNNNNNN!!!

Sure some of the movies were awesome, but don't forget when you pick "The Wrath of Khan", "First Contact" and "The Voyage Home" you also get:

"Genesis"
::Nasty Pasty screams::

"The Final Frontier"
::Nasty Pasty screams::

and "The Search For Spock"
::Nasty Pasty looks at Teral::
::Teral nods::
::Nasty Pasty screams::

 
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by Grim:
I dont know what everyone's problem is with Voyager, there's nothing wrong with it really. When I heard about it I expected a B grade version of the TNG crew and thats what we got, accept it for what it is damn it!

[Farnsworth]NO![/Farnsworth] If I do that, I also have to accept "The Final Frontier" for what it is.   :p

When I think of V'Ger to phrases spring to mind "lost potential" and "Reset Button". That's not to say some of the individual episodes were downright awesome and very enjoyable, but overall the series was a disappointment. For a more extensive rant look back at page 1.
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« Reply #109 on: 05-16-2004 16:24 »

 
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and "The Search For Spock"
::Nasty Pasty looks at Teral::
::Teral nods::
::Nasty Pasty screams::

I like 'The Search For Spock'. Okay, it isn't great but it's certainly better than the rest of the crap with the Star Trek name attached.

 
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When I think of V'Ger to phrases spring to mind "lost potential" and "Reset Button".

I also think 'magical Borg technology', i.e.
Kim: Captain! The Hirogen (or whatever) are attacking! What do we do?
Janeway: Use the [GENERIC INDECIHERABLE TECHNOBABBLE] that Seven of Nine invented this morning while I get a cup of coffee.

Every time a new bit of technology appeared in the show it just seemed like it was only there so the writers didn't have think of an intelligent  alternative. And quite frankly, by the end of the series Voyager could take on just about anything (for god's sake, they already defeated Species 8472 and the Borg!).

Which reminds me:
Borg= crutch.
Species 8472 + Caretaker/Suspiria= wasted oppurtunities.
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« Reply #110 on: 05-16-2004 16:32 »

To me species 8472 looked too much of an Alien-ripoff.
Teral

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« Reply #111 on: 05-16-2004 17:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
 I like 'The Search For Spock'. Okay, it isn't great but it's certainly better than the rest of the crap with the Star Trek name attached.

True, it wasn't as terrible as "The Final Frontier", but Kirk's melodramatic fight with Kruge made me cringe. Robyn Curtis was pretty horrible as Saavik (Kirstie Alley is the real Saavik). However I did enjoy one of the last scenes when Spock ask Kirk why they risked their own lifes (and careers) just to save his. Kirk replies "Sometimes the needs of the one - outweigh the needs of the many." Spock lifts his eyebrow in his characteristic manner, recognise his friends irrationel, human logic and respond: "Jim! Your name is Jim." That was a really well done scene.
 
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I also think 'magical Borg technology', i.e.
Kim: Captain! The Hirogen (or whatever) are attacking! What do we do?
Janeway: Use the [GENERIC INDECIHERABLE TECHNOBABBLE] that Seven of Nine invented this morning while I get a cup of coffee.

Like the tech thBorg use to revivie dead drones. Honestly if you had the technology to revive dead crewmembers, would you use it on Neelix, or turn your attention to more important matters, like selecting the right flavour of donut?

For me the biggest waste of potential was the disappearence of any trace of tension between the Starfleet and Maquis crew.
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« Reply #112 on: 05-16-2004 17:15 »

Voyager may not have been that great of a series, but I really liked the holo-doctor. Sadly, he was just about the only interesting character on that show.
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« Reply #113 on: 05-16-2004 19:06 »
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What about 7 of C-Cup (random guess)?
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« Reply #114 on: 05-16-2004 19:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Mercapto:
Voyager may not have been that great of a series, but I really liked the holo-doctor. Sadly, he was just about the only interesting character on that show.

BAM! 7 of 9.

Gigity gigity gigity OH!!   :D
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« Reply #115 on: 05-17-2004 04:35 »

TNG,VOY,DS9,TOS
Teral

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« Reply #116 on: 05-17-2004 09:55 »
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What about 7 of C-Cup (random guess)?

Male demographic age 15 to dead: "Second!"
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« Reply #117 on: 05-17-2004 11:13 »
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Some friends of mine met Armon Shimmerman (Quark) at a con/expo this weekend   :) apparently he likes pasta.
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« Reply #118 on: 05-17-2004 15:38 »
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Ooh Armin Shimerman.

Must be great to meet him. You know it's funny, just yesterday I was thinking along the lines of "What if I met Armin Shimerman at a convention?" Really, I swear on your mother's head.

I had an interesting chat with Carel Struycken once, a Dutchman. He did Mr. Homn, a servant of one of the Troi's. Also Lurch in the Addams family and the Giant in Twin Peaks.   
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« Reply #119 on: 05-17-2004 15:41 »

He was in Men in Black too, and he freaks the pudding out of me!!

*imagines what'd happen if he met Jeri Ryan*

Hell yeah, the "sex offender" title would so be worth it!!  :D
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