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PEE Poll: Star Trek: The Best
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« Reply #640 on: 12-21-2012 00:54 »

"I like how how all these electric pipes are connected to the ice. That's probably pretty safe, right?"
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« Reply #641 on: 12-21-2012 00:56 »

Strangely enough, that's precisely how penises operate in most bi-gendered organisms.
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« Reply #642 on: 12-23-2012 04:24 »

Benedict Cumberbatch's character in the new film is being credited as "John Harrison". Not Kahn, nor Gary Mitchell as rumored...

Who the fuck is John Harrison? Hopefully this is disinformation. I am literally angry with anger.

Least ominous villian name ever.
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« Reply #643 on: 12-23-2012 08:19 »

Maybe that's why, he seems harmless so you don't suspect it... shifty
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« Reply #644 on: 12-23-2012 09:10 »


Like the Raoul Silva character in Skyfall"

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« Reply #645 on: 12-23-2012 23:23 »

He didn't seem harmless. He's the only man who ever tried to grope James Bond.
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« Reply #646 on: 12-25-2012 02:00 »

Such a tease. I walked out of the theater with the most angry boner.
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« Reply #647 on: 01-15-2013 00:57 »

He didn't seem harmless. He's the only man who ever tried to grope James Bond.

What makes you think that it's James' first time?

Back to Trek, I still am very reserved about Into Darkness. Personally I don't like how they overwrote all of Kirk Prime's actual traits and made him less heroic and definatley [sic] not as powerful of a person in terms of strong William Shatnery personalities. But that's mostly writing, not acting. I'm still waiting for Avery Brooks to come out and say, "We've got a movie gig, and I'm playing this really small part of this Emissary guy who comes back after years of enlightenment. Oh yeah, and the character ended the Abramsverse with his super-awesome Prophet powers."

Like any executive is going to make a DS9 movie. Even if we all want one.
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« Reply #648 on: 01-15-2013 01:03 »

Enterprise movie would probably be better.
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« Reply #649 on: 01-15-2013 01:05 »

Still, Enterprise wouldn't of happened without Benny Russell's mind. Or Data in the holosuite.
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« Reply #650 on: 01-15-2013 01:19 »

I read somewhere that the DS9 writers contemplated to reveal the whole series took place in Benny's mind during the finale. Intriguing, but that would have royally pissed off TONS of fans...
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« Reply #651 on: 01-15-2013 01:30 »

I know about 3 other DS9 lovers who wouldn't have minded it it too much. Now, in 2012 I think it of being a better idea then I did on the original run. I think they could of made it work pending another season. Especially what happened in mid to late season 7 when Benny was writing on the walls of the Asylum he was held up in
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« Reply #652 on: 01-15-2013 03:02 »

We were those walls.
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« Reply #653 on: 01-15-2013 03:08 »

I could never get into DS9 even though I have heard great things about it.  What season should I start if I want to try again?


TNG was the best for me and I did get into Voyager once I got Netflix.
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« Reply #654 on: 01-15-2013 03:17 »

Gotta watch from the beginning. It's amazing to see how all the characters change over time, and especially how much more badass Sisko becomes after he goes bald by choice is another thing to see. Because DS9 is arcing, it's necessary to watch every season for the minute details and choices that become important over time, unlike Mass Effect or TNG.
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« Reply #655 on: 01-15-2013 03:38 »

Enterprise is easily the best though, as everyone can undoubtedly agree.
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« Reply #656 on: 01-15-2013 03:48 »

I reject your opinion and substitute my own. DS9 is easily the best though, as everyone can undoubtedly agree.
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« Reply #657 on: 01-15-2013 03:50 »

Opinion?  I was clearly stating a fact sir!
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« Reply #658 on: 01-15-2013 03:52 »

Well, there's a reason DS9 got 7 seasons and Enterprise didn't. But, ENT is ST so it's infinitely better the Ewoks. You know, that 80's cartoon that made those little beary shits.
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« Reply #659 on: 01-15-2013 04:00 »

Enterprise has Scott Bakula, a true traveler of both time and space.
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« Reply #660 on: 01-15-2013 04:22 »

DS9 had Avery Brooks, who punched Q, met Kirk, and saved the entire alpha quadrant times over. And now Avery Brooks has a jazz album out, cause he's a classically trained opera singer.
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« Reply #661 on: 01-15-2013 05:21 »

But TNG had a bald Picard who got a head rub from a female Klingon and he liked it.
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« Reply #662 on: 01-15-2013 06:26 »


And TNG also had a bearded Riker who got a whole lot more than a head rub from a Klingon!

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« Reply #663 on: 01-15-2013 13:13 »

Miles O'Brien became more of a badass and Worf got Trill up in his grill.
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« Reply #664 on: 01-15-2013 20:16 »

DS9 had Avery Brooks, who punched Q, met Kirk, and saved the entire alpha quadrant times over. And now Avery Brooks has a jazz album out, cause he's a classically trained opera singer.
He's also a weirdo, if you watch the documentary The Captains, he's like totally whacked on some hippie crack or something.
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« Reply #665 on: 01-15-2013 20:47 »
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He's not weird, he's quite normal for a Princeton resident.

Now here's my question - how much are they going to screw Trek history in Into Darkness?
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« Reply #666 on: 01-15-2013 22:13 »

Well, they blew up Romulus and Vulcan in the first movie, so it's gonna be hard to top that.

Maybe they'll make Kirk gay.
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« Reply #667 on: 01-15-2013 22:52 »


Maybe they'll make Kirk gay.


Isn't that canon already? big grin

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« Reply #668 on: 01-16-2013 01:25 »

Maybe they'll make Kirk gay.
Isn't that canon already? big grin

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« Reply #669 on: 01-16-2013 02:40 »

Maybe they'll make Kirk gay.
Isn't that canon already? big grin

It's okay to be Takei.

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« Reply #670 on: 01-16-2013 03:06 »

Maybe they'll make it into a musical or blow up Bajor, Qo'nos, Betazed, the and all of the Dominion, and have the Ferengi be behind all of it, where John Harrison is a Ferrengi in disguise.
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« Reply #671 on: 01-17-2013 00:46 »

Personally I don't like how they overwrote all of Kirk Prime's actual traits and made him less heroic and definatley [sic] not as powerful of a person in terms of strong William Shatnery personalities.

While I agree with you in spirit, I do not in... body. ...... wtf?
The notion is that this is Kirk as a younger man, before he'd acquired those traits. It's not a new concept to have Kirk depicted as an arrogant asshat in his youth - quite a few of the Trek novels portray him as exactly that. The real test will be the next movie, if they show him gradually changing into a more Shatneresque figure.

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Like any executive is going to make a DS9 movie. Even if we all want one.

I would prefer to see a new Next-Gen era series, in which the events that sent Spock Prime to the past could be a story arc. We could have appearances from all the major players. Won't happen, except in my 1400-page fanfic.




Well, they blew up Romulus and Vulcan in the first movie, so it's gonna be hard to top that.

Romulus hasn't blown up yet.
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« Reply #672 on: 01-17-2013 00:51 »

Wouldn't everyone want to see another DS9/VOY era show? Nope. After Enterprise they were thinking of doing the next show in the year 3000. I'm serious. 3000. Zapp's going to get his own television show!

I would love to see new Kirk. talk. like. this. because. you. know. it's. that. sexy. thing. Shatner. does. when. shatting. on. the. television.
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« Reply #673 on: 01-17-2013 01:31 »

I'm thinking they should probably make another Enterprise.
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« Reply #674 on: 01-17-2013 01:44 »
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I'm thinking they should probably make another Enterprise.
Enterprise 2: Electric Boogaloo.

It's when the crew of the Enterprise has to learn to work together because the evil corporation is going to tear down The United Federation of Planets in order to build a mall.
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« Reply #675 on: 01-17-2013 06:19 »

And Hoshi has to be a genius languagetatician.
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« Reply #676 on: 01-17-2013 07:22 »

Wouldn't everyone want to see another DS9/VOY era show?

I've thought about this a few times since the end of DS9 and Voyager and the Nemesis feature film, and it would be intriguing. Playing devil's advocate, I think it would be difficult to present new and interesting storylines. DS9 arguably wrapped up the the Cardassians, Klingons and Dominion threads, Voyager pussified the Borg, and Nemesis ended with the Federation and Romulans on the verge of peace. What would they do? Bring out another super-duper bad guy?

Going back to a more "simple" time like Enterprise or the JJ Abrams Kirk era seemed to be the prudent thing to do. So much of those eras weren't fleshed out enough, if only because ENT and TOS weren't given the 7 seasons that the other series had.

I might be in the minority, but I actually liked a lot of what Enterprise had to offer. Sure, alot of the characters were one dimensional, but for my money, the 3rd and 4th seasons were among the highest quality of any of the Treks.
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« Reply #677 on: 01-17-2013 11:06 »

Were the characters one dimensional?  My favorite part was that it got the franchise back to the root of exploration in a realm where anything could go wrong.  It was that cowboy mentality of seeking out the darkness to discover truth.  Plus some of the stand alone episodes displayed interesting topics in scifi, and then the whole time travel story thread was ridiculous, but neat.

Also, more Mirror episodes is always fantastic... duhhhhh!
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« Reply #678 on: 01-17-2013 13:08 »

Ahh yeah! Attendant Kira was badass. So badass, she could get Odo to tie himself up in a knot. That and seduce Mirror Dukat, Mirror Worf, Mirror Jadzia, Mirror Fry, Mirror Garth Brooks, Mirror Hank Williams Sr., Mirror George Straight... the list goes on!
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« Reply #679 on: 01-18-2013 00:51 »
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I think Section 31 would have been a good subject for a series. A Star Trek spy-thriller. Something like Homeland in space. Then you could have some really decent morally-ambiguous characters unlike the usual assortment of goody-two-shoes Starfleet paragons of virtue we normally see. The Federation is a utopia of lofty ideals, so let's see the dark and brutal underworld that keeps it all running.

I would simply title it: Federation.

Spits in the face of everything Roddenbury, but I think the man was rather overrated. Like Ian Fleming. One good idea doesn't make you a God.
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