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PEE Poll: Star Trek: The Best
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« Reply #160 on: 07-30-2006 20:14 »

After watching a bit of The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine, I have to rerank my list to:
(1)- TNG
(2)- TOS
(3)- DS9
Voyager and Enterprise weren't memberable, expecially Voyager. I forgot for a while that there was Voyager.
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« Reply #161 on: 07-30-2006 21:08 »

'Voyager' was just a take on 'Red Dwarf'. Red Dwarf was lost, so was Voyager. Red Dwarf was trying to get home, so was Voyager. Red Dwarf had a character that was a hologram, so did Voyager.

However, I have to agree with Shiny about Janeway. Janeway was believable as captain.

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« Reply #162 on: 07-30-2006 22:16 »

yeah, I remember one semester not having cable and one of the 2 channels I had showed weekly syndicated episodes of "Enterprise" I was pretty disappointed with that show, and the theme song was ultra gay
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« Reply #163 on: 07-30-2006 22:30 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2006 22:30 »

   
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Originally posted by Teral:
  I honestly couldn't care less. I could try, but I would really just set myself up for failure.

I mean, it has absolutely nothing to do with his acting ability (or lack of same) nor could it ever detract from the work he did as Sulu.

How did you expect us to feel? Betrayed because he hid this from us for so long? Disgusted that a gay man would ever work on Star Trek? Exalted because it means Trek is a really progressive show? Please. His sexual orientation is his own business and has nothing to do with Star Trek as far as I'm concerned.

I was just curious.  I have no problem with George coming out of the closet.  I heard the reason why Trek fans were mad at George is not because he revealed he was gay, but rather he kept it a secret for so long.  Trek fans claim to know everything about their Trek stars, so when this news came out, they felt cheated.  I just wanted to know if that were true.

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« Reply #164 on: 07-31-2006 00:15 »

If Takai had come out the closet in the 60's, 70's80's and even part of the 90's it would have killed him on the convention circuit (they get paid quite a bit to appear at TrekCons).

Nobody has any reason to be angry with him - his personal life is his and only his business.
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« Reply #165 on: 07-31-2006 09:58 »

 
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IC_Weiner, you have not lived until you have seen DS9, especially the last 4 seasons, absolute brilliance.

In my mind, the same goes for the latter half of Enterprise, but that would probably get me crucified in forum by saying it...

Hey, I would hug you for such a statement.  tongue
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« Reply #166 on: 07-31-2006 11:32 »

 
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However, I have to agree with Shiny about Janeway. Janeway was believable as captain.


Sure, if disregard for regulations, multiple personality disorder, coldblooded murder of crewmembers and a complete lack of focus on the task at hand is a requirement for captaincy, Janeway makes a great captain.

Then again, with Kirk setting the standard, maybe those are the requirements.

As for the new movie: hate, hate, hate the premise as currently presented to us. Reasons already stated (in this thread or another).
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« Reply #167 on: 07-31-2006 14:11 »
« Last Edit on: 11-16-2008 01:06 »

Teral... I don't know whether to agree with you or not... You've confused me...

edit: Why did it take me over two years to realise that what I actually posted made absolutely no sense in the context of what I believe it was that I probably meant to say?

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« Reply #168 on: 07-31-2006 14:45 »

Captain.

Janeway.


When will people learn that these two words don't mix. I guess who ever created the character of Janeway had something against female commanding officers...  tongue
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« Reply #169 on: 07-31-2006 15:01 »

Kirk was a cowboy.

Janeway was psychotic.

Paramount really pissed me off when they turned the mounting lesbian relationship between Seven and Janeway, changing it to Chakotay and Seven.  I'd rather seen Seven and Harry Kim be a couple.  I really wanted to see Janeway and Seven be a couple.

Just call me strange.
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« Reply #170 on: 07-31-2006 15:04 »

 
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Kirk was a cowboy.

Janeway was psychotic.

And Sisko was one bad muthafucka.
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« Reply #171 on: 07-31-2006 15:08 »
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Picard was the bald guy and Archer the captain with a dog.
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« Reply #172 on: 07-31-2006 18:31 »
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart:
Kirk was a cowboy.

Janeway was psychotic.

Paramount really pissed me off when they turned the mounting lesbian relationship between Seven and Janeway, changing it to Chakotay and Seven.  I'd rather seen Seven and Harry Kim be a couple.  I really wanted to see Janeway and Seven be a couple.

Just call me strange.

You're strange.

     
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Originally posted by Xanfor:Anyway, it was a take on 'Red Dwarf', and look who was in command there...        wink

Er.. Cap'n Hollister? He was only in 1  season (and one other episode.) DS9 is a take on Babylon 5 though (the third best sci-fi show ever made after TOS and TNG)

Grabs discarded flame-retardant anorak...

 
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No, not Hollister. He died.

You havn't seen season 8 yet have you..?   wink
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« Reply #173 on: 07-31-2006 18:44 »
« Last Edit on: 11-16-2008 01:04 »

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« Reply #174 on: 08-03-2006 11:29 »

Well, to be honest, I never really liked Kirk.

Why did they have to replace the initial version of Kirk's death in 'Generations' with something, umm, less cool.  tongue
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« Reply #175 on: 08-03-2006 11:31 »

Ooo, that's low!  wink

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« Reply #176 on: 08-13-2006 14:49 »

2008
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« Reply #177 on: 08-13-2006 17:06 »

And here's your new Captain, trekkies!


Captain Assfleck.
(he was bald before I added the communicator)
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« Reply #178 on: 08-14-2006 15:49 »

As a fan of Star Trek, and a Ben Affleck hater; that is wrong on every level.
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« Reply #179 on: 08-15-2006 04:19 »

 
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And here's your new Captain, trekkies!


Captain Assfleck.
(he was bald before I added the communicator)

Faze wins that set of tubes called teh Internet...again.
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« Reply #180 on: 08-15-2006 21:17 »

Notice how I said "your new Captain, trekkies!"
Because as soon as I heard he was invovled, I disassociated myself with it, handed in my DS9 fan badge and phaser.  tongue
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« Reply #181 on: 08-16-2006 11:11 »



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« Reply #182 on: 08-16-2006 23:01 »

I choose to read that emoticon as Picard shooting Affleck a la First Contact.
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« Reply #183 on: 08-17-2006 01:09 »

They should have spock give that douchebag the vulcan neck pinch
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« Reply #184 on: 08-17-2006 02:57 »

Ya know, I just bought Season 7 of DS9 on DVD and I was curious what everyone here thought about Ezri Dax replacing Jadzia for the final season..

Obviously, her character is deeply missed, but I give the "Cute" Nod to Ezri...
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« Reply #185 on: 08-17-2006 05:07 »

 
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I disassociated myself with it, handed in my DS9 fan badge and phaser.   tongue

Now if Teral divorces himself from the Leela-Dax avatar, then we'll know that this proposed Trek movie will be 100 percent StarDrek...

Okay you cunts, let's see what you can do now.
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« Reply #186 on: 08-18-2006 19:08 »

Hah hah! You're wrong.

Teral's avatar couldn't be Dax, as she was a scientist and wore a teal uniform, not the red "command" one.

I'd say it's more of a Janeway...

Pffft. Loser.  tongue

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« Reply #187 on: 08-18-2006 23:14 »

 
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Teral's avatar couldn't be Dax, as she was a scientist and wore a teal uniform, not the red "command" one.

I'd say it's more of a Janeway...

Teral's avatar couldn't be Janeway, because Voyager sucks.

She's wearing the command uniform because Leela's a starship captain.  Duh.
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« Reply #188 on: 08-18-2006 23:43 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2006 00:00 by totalnerduk »

Voyager sucks overall, but contains the following redeeming features.

  • Q's death. The most annoying bastard in space. Finally dead. I think that it was in Voyager, anyway.
  • Seven of Nine. Oh yes. More juice to be oranged.
  • The sarcastic holographic doctor. I long for the day when I can tell my computer it's a piece of shit, and it can give me a snappy response.
  • The absence of Wesley Crusher, the kid of the DS9 commander, and Whoopi Goldberg.
  • A much cooler spaceship. Face it, even though all the above could not prevent Voyager from sucking, the actual ship itself is much better looking than either Kirk's Enterprise, Picard Patrick Stewart's Enterprise, the Enterprise from Enterprise, the US naval vessel Enterprise, or that really crappy space station that they kept showing cutaways to for some inexplicable reason all the way through episodes of DS9.

    Also, Janeway is way too fat for Leela's uniform.
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« Reply #189 on: 08-19-2006 00:21 »

I agree wholeheartedly with this part:

 
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The sarcastic holographic doctor. I long for the day when I can tell my computer it's a piece of shit, and it can give me a snappy response.

I respond to the rest of your post with a resounding "Meh."
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« Reply #190 on: 08-19-2006 05:31 »

 
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Voyager sucks overall, but contains the following redeeming features.


  • A much cooler spaceship. Face it, even though all the above could not prevent Voyager from sucking, the actual ship itself is much better looking than either Kirk's Enterprise, Picard Patrick Stewart's Enterprise, the Enterprise from Enterprise, the US naval vessel Enterprise, or that really crappy space station that they kept showing cutaways to for some inexplicable reason all the way through episodes of DS9.
I, however, am very dissapointed in the looks of the USS Voyager.
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« Reply #191 on: 08-19-2006 10:42 »
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Hah hah! You're wrong.

Nope.  I'm not.

 
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Teral's avatar couldn't be Dax, as she was a scientist and wore a teal uniform, not the red "command" one.

I'd say it's more of a Janeway...

Pffft. Loser.    tongue

*fixes retainer*

Teral told me in an email that it was a Leela-trill.  He hates Voyager and would never insult Leela by making her a member of that crew.

Here's a larger pic of his avatar to prove she's a trill - Leela-Dax:




View it and leak salt-water!


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From the History and Physical recorded 7/21/06:

Patient is a 45 year old male.  History of anabolic steroid abuse, smoking, heavy drinking, myocardial infarction and severe hypertension.  Patient is wildly noncompliant with diet and lifestyle changes, although he has stopped smoking and drinking to excess.  Patient is either passively-agressively attempting suicide or feels he is immortal.  I have yet to make that determination.
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« Reply #192 on: 08-20-2006 18:03 »

For my feelings on V'Ger, I think my double-post barrage om page 1 of this thread still very accurately sums up my feelings. But if I had to put it in two words, those would be: unfulfilled potential. V'Ger made a handfull of undeniably brilliant episodes, but overall it was a bumbling mess of medocrity with only 2 interesting characters (Doc and Seven), an interesting basic premise abondoned by its creators faster than an Iraqi tank in 1991, a non-existant continuity, moronic villains and bland/boring alien cultures (with the Viidians and Krennims as exceptions, maybe the Hirogen too).

 
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Ya know, I just bought Season 7 of DS9 on DVD and I was curious what everyone here thought about Ezri Dax replacing Jadzia for the final season..

Obviously, her character is deeply missed, but I give the "Cute" Nod to Ezri...

It was pretty much an instantly hit for me. I think my intial response when she appeared at the door in "Image in the Sand" was "Damn! She is unbelievably cute!" I liked how they portrayed the character (overwhelmed by the many identities she wasn't prepared or trained to handle, but eventually she learned to integrate them), though obviously they had some problems defining her at first. 

 
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Teral's avatar couldn't be Dax, as she was a scientist and wore a teal uniform, not the red "command" one.

She did in "Trials and Tribblations".

Besides DS9 is set 600 years in the past, this is the Dax of the 31 century.  tongue

 
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Q's death. The most annoying bastard in space. Finally dead. I think that it was in Voyager, anyway.

Unless my memory is failing me: wrong on both accounts. Q is alive and kicking, travelling the Universe with his son.

 
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DS9 is a take on Babylon 5 though

Oh no. I refuse to go into another pointless  "DS9 is a ripoff of Babylon" discusssion, when that claim obviously have no foundation in facts.
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« Reply #193 on: 08-20-2006 19:30 »

 
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abondoned by its creators faster than an Iraqi tank in 1991

 laff Best quote of the day!  I'll steal it!

 
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moronic villains and bland/boring alien cultures (with the Viidians and Krennims as exceptions, maybe the Hirogen too).

Species 8472 was a great idea, but of course as time went on, they screwed that one up.

 
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Unless my memory is failing me: wrong on both accounts. Q is alive and kicking, travelling the Universe with his son.

A Q died, but not the Q.  That was an ep where a member of the Q family wanted to commit suicide.  Janeway made the case for him (damned, she killed more aliens than Kirk ever dreamed of) and at the end, he was allowed to take his life - aided by the Q who know all too well.


 
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She did in "Trials and Tribblations

And she looked finger-licking good in that miniskirt!
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« Reply #194 on: 08-30-2006 11:17 »

Heheh.  I watched some old, taped episodes of Voyager last night with my Voyager-obsessed friends.  Normally, I don't re-watch shows I enjoyed as a kid, but you people already pretty much ruined the nostalgia value for me.

They were mostly phoned-in melodrama from the last season, but I did also find out the answer to the eternal question: who would win in a fight: Klingons or Nazis? from Season four or five.
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« Reply #195 on: 08-31-2006 19:07 »
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Unless my memory is failing me: wrong on both accounts. Q is alive and kicking, travelling the Universe with his son.

A Q died, but not the Q.  That was an ep where a member of the Q family wanted to commit suicide.

Damnation. I really wanted that fucker to kick the bucket. He was one of the most annoying characters ever crerated. I think he even manages to piss me off more than Cubert does.

Edit: The Nazis would beat the Klingons. The Klingons, y'see, are more ethical, and their rigid code of honour would be exploited by the Nazis.
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« Reply #196 on: 08-31-2006 19:40 »

 
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Edit: The Nazis would beat the Klingons. The Klingons, y'see, are more ethical, and their rigid code of honour would be exploited by the Nazis.

The Klingons of Kirk's time were vicious, evil, cowardly beings constantly looking for a reason to kill.  Only after Kirk spent 30 years kicking Klingon ass did they become 'noble, ethical warriors'.  After Kirk's systematic kicking their asses, just a scant 80 years later a bald-head Frenchman was almost as powerful as their ruler.

Kirk rules.  Klingons?  Piece of cake.  Prime Directive?  The paper it's printed on is to only be used as toilet paper.  Romulans?  Oh please - send in somebody worthy of Kirk's asskicking abilities.

Janeway?  Ha!  They took the worst properties of Kirk and put them in a woman.  What use to really irk me about Voyager was the axiom:  Janeway is never wrong!  She could abuse the Prime Directive, kill more aliens than rogue comets, emasculate her male officers, do her best to seduce Seven and still become an Admiral.

The mind boggles...

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« Reply #197 on: 08-31-2006 20:31 »

Sucked her way to the top.

Interpret that however you want, nightmares... etc..  big grin
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« Reply #198 on: 09-01-2006 03:38 »
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Edit: The Nazis would beat the Klingons. The Klingons, y'see, are more ethical, and their rigid code of honour would be exploited by the Nazis.

Not on the holodeck. Apparently it has also a 'ethical behavior off' setting.   tongue
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« Reply #199 on: 09-07-2006 15:29 »

From DS9...

O'Brien: "The phaser blast must have ignited their radiation leak."

...

Radiation is inflamable?

You learn something new every day...
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