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« Reply #520 on: 02-27-2005 16:49 »

 
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So Ridcully sez to the Bursar:  "Detritus can take on that Balrog and five cave trolls any day of the week."
To which the Librarian replied: "Oook!"

Does Detritus have his crossbow and are the balrog and cave trolls standing side-by-side?
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« Reply #521 on: 02-27-2005 18:31 »

Yes and yes.
And the crosbow's bolt is made from dwarf bread.
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« Reply #522 on: 02-27-2005 18:42 »

Is dwarf bread strong enough to withstand the awesome forces of The Crossbow? (I forget its name)  ecause the main danger from it was the cloud of superaccelerated splinters.
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« Reply #523 on: 02-28-2005 08:42 »
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Not that we really want to turn this into a Discworld thread, but to answer your question, Dwarf Bread is probably stronger than any wood used in one of the crossbow's bolts.
I'm suprised Terry Pratchett never thought of it. Or maybe he did, and decided that there was probably no way in hell the dwarves would allow a troll to have such bread.

Keeping on topic, might I recommend  Karen Wynn Fonstad's The Atlas of Middle Earth.
Super detailed maps of everywhere conceivable, floor plans of key locations, and timetables. For the Sil, The Hobbit and LOTR.
Amazing to me how Peter Jackson managed to film everything on location and still have it all match up to the maps and directions in the books.
(except for that one line, a noticable goof, where Legolas declares that the orcs are heading "northeast". Woops!)
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« Reply #524 on: 02-28-2005 09:05 »

Awww, I missed a Discworld nerd gathering?
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« Reply #525 on: 02-28-2005 14:58 »

 
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Not that we really want to turn this into a Discworld thread

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(except for that one line, a noticable goof, where Legolas declares that the orcs are heading "northeast". Woops!)

Lurtz just got turned around is all.
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« Reply #526 on: 02-28-2005 17:56 »

My eldest nephew in law named his new laptop 'mon précieux'(my precious).  evil laugh
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« Reply #527 on: 03-13-2005 14:33 »

Discuss
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« Reply #528 on: 03-13-2005 17:25 »

*checks calendar*
Yup, I plan to be alive then.... Huzzah!

Although will Ian McKellan and Ian Holm be?
(Note: I doubt they'll use Ian Holm, maybe Ian McKellan, but would Ian Holm be up for a whole move with his face stretched back with film-effect pegs?)

I trust Peter Jackson with it anyway... unless he's goes barmy or something in the meantime.
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« Reply #529 on: 03-13-2005 17:35 »

He's suing New Line? Might make them a bit miffed.

Anyway, yeah, they definetely need Ian McKellan for that, but otherwise I think we're in good hands. I haven't read the book, but know the gist of it and it should make a good movie.

Hopefully his next project again will be filming the Silmarillion.
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« Reply #530 on: 03-13-2005 18:20 »

 
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My eldest nephew in law named his new laptop 'mon précieux'(my precious).   evil laugh

My computer is named Pippin, and the wireless network in our house is called the Fellowship.

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« Reply #531 on: 03-14-2005 17:46 »

Teral, The Silmarillion would be like making the actual bible, all books, into a movie, it's all names and relationships and would most likely be impossible to turn into a film...
Although I could be wrong.
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« Reply #532 on: 03-14-2005 19:22 »

I agree with the being of inconceivable horror
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« Reply #533 on: 03-15-2005 05:19 »
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True, but there are also grand battles, heroic quests, betrayal, dragons and love. I mean, you think Pellenor Field was something? Wait 'til you see the Nirnaeth Arnoediad.

Plus much of the names, relationships and exposition could be culled into an opening montage like in The Fellowshp of the Ring.
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« Reply #534 on: 03-15-2005 12:16 »

I don't remember that, it's been a while since I've read it (and I found it tough going to be honest).
But seriously, the amount of names and guys and elves and Jims and whosits blew my brain into Iluvatars house.
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« Reply #535 on: 03-15-2005 14:48 »

The problem with a Silmarillion movie is that it would have to cover an entire age. Unless you put everything that happens between Feanor making his Oath and the Nirnaeth in a opening montage, do the battle, and make another montage from there to the final voyage of Earendil...
If you'd just pick the 'cool' (filmable) segments of the story (like Waking of the Elves, the Nirnaeth, Dagorlad, Fall of Gondolin, Lay of Luthien, War of Wrath, etc.) and show them in chronologic order, every scene would have to start explaining where and (more important) when we are. It would all seem totally random, the depths of the book would be completely gone.
Still, it'd be nice if they tried to do it, just to see how it works out... if it stinks we can just ignore it.
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« Reply #536 on: 03-15-2005 15:19 »

 
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I haven't read the book, but know the gist of it and it should make a good movie.

You've never read The Hobbit?   confused
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« Reply #537 on: 03-15-2005 16:16 »
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No.  My shameful secret is out.  cry I didn't read the LOTR trilogy  until after seing each movie either.
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« Reply #538 on: 03-15-2005 20:16 »

There are a lot of essential passages in The Hobbit that I couldn't envision as a movie. A few examples:

Under the Misty Mountains- it's pitch black for hours on end, and nothing can be seen whatsoever. This would very monotonous on the silver screen.
The same goes for a large part of the Mirkwood endeavour. Also, when Bilbo is trying to free the Dwarves from the Elvenking. That's bound to be boring cinema. Then there's the whole thing about having thirteen Dwarves and one hobbit on-screen pretty much non-stop for a solid three hours. More monotony, perhaps? Sure, there are other characters, like Gollum, Beorn, Bard and so on, but a whopping 87% (not the exact figure) is just the Dwarves and Bilbo.

I'd like to see it done, and I don't deny that it might be good, but I just think there are a bunch of factors to work around first.
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« Reply #539 on: 03-15-2005 21:04 »

I agree with the thing about the thirteen Dwarves. Gimli, especially in Two Towers and Return of the King, was used pretty much only as comic relief. John Rhys-Davies was fine in the role and his dedication is noticeable, but I thought that they just didn't really knew what to do with the character.

Now, imagine that with thirteen dwarves. Are they going to tell jokes and deliver punchlines all the way, or are they going to play it serious? They must get somewhere in the middle, but it's going to be a challenge.
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« Reply #540 on: 03-15-2005 21:57 »

 
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Under the Misty Mountains- it's pitch black for hours on end, and nothing can be seen whatsoever.

Kinda like the Mines of Moria that way.

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« Reply #541 on: 03-16-2005 05:04 »

Gandalf lit up Moria. In The Hobit Bilbo can't see shit (or anything else, for that matter).
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« Reply #542 on: 03-16-2005 05:09 »

And Shelobs Lair/Plains of Gorgoroth.
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« Reply #543 on: 03-16-2005 13:45 »

So when the Hobbit finally gets made...
and there are all these dark scenes...
(which will be somewhat lit for the benefit of the viewing audience)
Just don't watch the eventual dvd release in a brightly lit room.
I'd like to see Davies return as his own father.
And even a (will be then) older Orlando Bloom returning as his own father.
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« Reply #544 on: 03-16-2005 13:53 »

 
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I agree with the thing about the thirteen Dwarves. Gimli, especially in Two Towers and Return of the King, was used pretty much only as comic relief. John Rhys-Davies was fine in the role and his dedication is noticeable, but I thought that they just didn't really knew what to do with the character.

Just because Peter Jackson made the mistake of relegating Gimli to the role of comic relief, that doesn't mean that he has to do the same thing with all of the dwarves in The Hobbit.

 
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Now, imagine that with thirteen dwarves. Are they going to tell jokes and deliver punchlines all the way, or are they going to play it serious? They must get somewhere in the middle, but it's going to be a challenge.

Actually, having a whole group of dwarves solves that problem.  Some of the dwarves, like Bombur, can be used as comic relief, while others, like Thorin, will be quite serious.  You know, kind of like the way that they were portrayed in the book.
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« Reply #545 on: 04-07-2005 10:10 »

I'm looking forward to The Hobbit, but I expect bits will be cut out.

Also, Anyone else love saying Moria? Mooooooria?
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« Reply #546 on: 04-07-2005 11:57 »

I tell you what, i hope that they actually show the battle of 5 armies in the film, rather than having you miss it all because of Bilbo's unconsciousness.

in regard to the silmarillion, i feel it would be better done as maybe a TV "mini" series of the different tales. make it easier that way. however, the way i remember it "unfinished tales" was every bit as good as "the silmarillion". *goes and starts to read both.*
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« Reply #547 on: 04-07-2005 13:41 »

 
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Also, Anyone else love saying Moria? Mooooooria?

Yes, it's got a good woody sound to it.  Moria.  I also like the dwarven name, Khazad-dûm.  It just sort of rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?  Nice and woody sounding; not at all tinny.
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« Reply #548 on: 04-07-2005 15:55 »

I like pronouncing it as "khazad-DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM"

Then I start singing the Doom Song.
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« Reply #549 on: 04-07-2005 15:57 »

Doom Song?
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« Reply #550 on: 04-07-2005 17:11 »

See Invader Zim.
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« Reply #551 on: 01-01-2010 10:52 »

Much like Sir Patrick it's Sir Peter now.

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« Reply #552 on: 01-04-2010 05:56 »

Watching LOTR Return of the King right now.  I forgot what an amazing achievement these 3 films are.  Pretty much the highest quality films I've ever seen.
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« Reply #553 on: 01-04-2010 11:48 »

had my yearly LotR watching with my dad ... in the home cinema... again dec 30th and 31st

so much fun
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