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Just Chris

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« Reply #40 on: 08-05-2002 18:47 »

1: Bugs Bunny - Classic. Don't mess with him.
2: Homer Simpson - Duh!
3: Rocky & Bullwinkle - They are great, what can I say.
4: Beavis & Butthead - Bump these bastards down! (Reserved for Bender)
5: The Grinch
6: Fred Flintsone & Barney Rubble - I liked The Flintstones, one of the best H-B shows ever.
7: Angelica Pickles - Don't like her. You're cut.
8: Charlie Brown & Snoopy - They're OK as animation, they should stay here.
9: Spongebob Squarepants - Spur-of-the-moment stuff. Cut.
10: Eric Cartman - Don't have cable, no comment.
11: Bart & Lisa Simpson - Cool man!
12: Fat Albert - I can understand the 'Cosby-ism,' but never reall watched the show.
13: The Powerpuff Girls - They're cool, but not really the best. This spot is good for them.
14: Daffy Duck - Awesome! He's just as great as Bugs, what's he doing way down here?
15: Pikachu - Stop with the madness! He spawned the whole 'collect 'n' battle' genre of anime. Cut.
16: Gumby - Coolest clay guy anywhere!
17: Betty Boop - If she really appeared in risque cartoons for GIs in the 40's, no complaint there.
18: Top Cat - Real cool.
19: Mickey Mouse - He started the Disney franchise, he deserves it.
20: Popeye - Love their chicken, like his show.
21: Gerald McBoingBoing (who?) - I agree with the anthromorphic asian chick.
22: Scooby-Doo - Not to great, but gotta be here somewhere.
23: Underdog - Good, but not great. Cut.
24: Josie and the Pussycats - Corny stuff. Cut.
25: Heckle & Jeckle - No comment.
26: Arthur - If PBS needs one, I guess he's their best bet.
27: Winnie the Pooh - Well, he gotta be there for all the kiddies out there.
28: Felix the Cat - Classic! A keeper.
29: Mr. Magoo - Not too memorable. Cut.
30: George of the Jungle - Ditto. Cut.
31: Ren & Stimpy - Keep them! Gross-out humor is the cartoon staple of the 90's.
32: Tome Terrific (again, who?) - No comment.
33: Tweety & Sylvester - I hope they're not talkin' about the new WB show, but in the classics they work well together.
34: The Bill (from Schoolhouse Rock) - If he was good enough to spoof, let him stay!
35: Space Ghost - Reprezent superheroes!
36: Yogi Bear & Boo Boo - Yet another great H-B cartoon!
37: Mighty Mouse - OK I guess.
38: Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner - genius material, deserves a higher spot!
39: Superman - Not too great as a cartoon. Cut.
40: Batman - Puts the 'dark' back in the dark knight. No skinny futuristic ninja stuff, please.
41: Daria - No comment, see #10.
42: Wonder Woman - GGRROWWL! Seriously, I dunno much about her.
43: Donald Duck - He's better than Mickey by a mile. Latest great feat: hearing his voice in Japanese in Kingdom Hearts!
44: Alvin (the Chipmunk) - No, not the karaoke trio! Cut.
45: Boris & Natasha - Much better than as real people, they deserve it.
46: Woody Woodpecker - He's good. (Goes by the name 'Crazy Bird' in Spanish!)
47: Porky Pig - Another lead Looney Toon. He deserves it.
48: Bobby Hill - None of the cast should be in this list. Cut all of them!
49: Speed Racer - Cheesy show, though the song is catchy. Cut.
50: Tom & Jerry - Absolute classics. PUT THEM UP HIGHER!

* TOTPD to Speed Racer theme *
Archie2K

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« Reply #41 on: 08-06-2002 14:43 »

OK, some of those shows are completely unknown to me so I can't judge. But Beavis and Butthead at 4th... WHY??? They weren't funny then, and are even less funny now. Except now they are really dated too. But then the stupid people had to vote for someone. That probably explains the presence of Cartman so high. But that is more understandable. South Park had a much bigger presence than B&B ever did.

Also as was said earlier. Characters are getting grouped together randomly. Tom and Jerry being so low sickens me. They have been around for 60 years people. Somehow I think there will only be a few of characters on that list who will be around sixty years from now.
coginthemachine

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« Reply #42 on: 08-10-2002 09:32 »

Can't comment on tv guide,as we don't get it over here.However, I must say I'm sorry some people dislike Top Cat, a terrific show. I would also add Count Duckula to the list, the storylines were even better than Danger Mouse.As for Cartman,a Brilliant creation. chill out peeps.
Guy

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« Reply #43 on: 08-10-2002 15:45 »
« Last Edit on: 08-10-2002 15:45 »

*Guy gets tired of Beavis and Butthead and kicks Butthead out of his TV. I tell Beavis he can stay as long as he doesn't bother me*

EDIT: *Kicks Beavis out*
bartman

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« Reply #44 on: 08-10-2002 15:54 »

Good edit
Guy

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« Reply #45 on: 08-11-2002 08:24 »
« Last Edit on: 08-11-2002 08:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
Somehow I think there will only be a few of characters on that list who will be around sixty years from now.

*Guy wakes up from being in a coma for 60 years*
Guy: Do Beavis and Butthead still have that stupid show?
Doctor: Butthead won an Oscar and Beavis is a Congressman.
Guy: Oh, and what about Futurama and FOX?
Doctor: FOX was mysteriously disbanded by an armed group led by someone with the codename [-mArc-], but unfortuneately, Futurama was destroyed  in the process.
Guy: Good Night!
*Guy lies back and his tounge hangs out. A deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sound is heard*
Just Chris

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« Reply #46 on: 08-12-2002 17:46 »

Has TV guide made over 50 lists yet? This cartoon one can top as "TV Guide's 50 lamest lists of all time".
Binder

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« Reply #47 on: 08-14-2002 16:14 »

WHERE IS STAR WARS!
Kryten

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« Reply #48 on: 08-14-2002 16:26 »

Star Wars is NOT a cartoon. Except for that stupid Ewoks show, and that doesn't count.
Guy

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« Reply #49 on: 08-14-2002 16:56 »

Ewoks, the Jar Jars of the original trilogy.
Binder

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« Reply #50 on: 08-14-2002 17:13 »
« Last Edit on: 08-14-2002 17:13 »

I don't think any new popular kids cartoons should be on the list. A few years from now Spongebob and the rest of the newbies will be unknown.
Also, characters that began as comics don't make much sense. And Pikachu shouldn't be on it. I mean, I love anime (but not the crappy stuff shown on US television, including Pokemon) but most of this stuff is US so why have one Japanese character??
Just Chris

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« Reply #51 on: 08-14-2002 22:48 »

I hate the fact that they leave the 80's out. Where the hell are the Ninja Turtles! Or do at least Transformers. All the popular new cartoons of today are just 'in' stuff. Cartoons should be time-tested in order to be great.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #52 on: 05-24-2004 20:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
This week's TV Guide has chosen the Top 50 cartoon characters, according to some arcane selection procedure that probably involves tea leaves, chicken entrails, and repeated blows to the head.

The list is as follows:

1: Bugs Bunny
2: Homer Simpson
3: Rocky & Bullwinkle
4: Beavis & Butthead
5: The Grinch
6: Fred Flintsone & Barney Rubble
7: Angelica Pickles
8: Charlie Brown & Snoopy
9: Spongebob Squarepants
10: Eric Cartman
11: Bart & Lisa Simpson
12: Fat Albert
13: The Powerpuff Girls
14: Daffy Duck
15: Pikachu
16: Gumby
17: Betty Boop
18: Top Cat
19: Mickey Mouse
20: Popeye
21: Gerald McBoingBoing (who?)
22: Scooby-Doo
23: Underdog
24: Josie and the Pussycats
25: Heckle & Jeckle
26: Arthur
27: Winnie the Pooh
28: Felix the Cat
29: Mr. Magoo
30: George of the Jungle
31: Ren & Stimpy
32: Tome Terrific (again, who?)
33: Tweety & Sylvester
34: The Bill (from Schoolhouse Rock)
35: Space Ghost
36: Yogi Bear & Boo Boo
37: Mighty Mouse
38: Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner
39: Superman
40: Batman
41: Daria
42: Wonder Woman
43: Donald Duck
44: Alvin (the Chipmunk)
45: Boris & Natasha
46: Woody Woodpecker
47: Porky Pig
48: Bobby Hill
49: Speed Racer
50: Tom & Jerry

So... just how far up their asses did they HAVE their heads?



Let me say about this list.  It does have some logical ranks.  Bugs Bunny, Rocky and Bullwinkle, Fred Flinstone, Popeye and others are classic cartoon characters and they helped to bridge cartoon characters of today.  However, this list has some problems.  Spongebob in the top ten?  And Bobby Hill is on the list?  The guys at TV Guide have their heads up their asses, but it is hard to figure out how up it is.
Sweetmelly

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« Reply #53 on: 05-24-2004 21:02 »
« Last Edit on: 05-24-2004 21:02 »

They have forgotten several great characters:

Cow and Chicken
Dexter and Dee Dee from "Dexter's Lab"
Pink Panther
Johnny Bravo
Elise from "The Ant and the Aardvark" / runs here in Germany as part of the "The Pink Panther Show"
Speedy Gonzales
Pepe the Skunk
Tigger from "Winnie the Puh"
Cleo, Abe, JFK, Gandhi, Joan of Arc from "Clone High"

Tweek

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« Reply #54 on: 05-25-2004 03:53 »

fryfanSpyOrama did this two year old thread need bumping? I think not  no no

I expect there is a new top fifty by now  tongue
nerdlingus

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« Reply #55 on: 05-25-2004 04:57 »

2 years old?
No wonder they have space ghost on there then.
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #56 on: 05-25-2004 14:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
Star Wars is NOT a cartoon. Except for that stupid Ewoks show, and that doesn't count.

There also  was a Droids cartoon made at the same time as the Ewoks cartoon, and recently there was a Clone Wars micro-series, but your right, Star Wars doesn't count as a cartoon.
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #57 on: 05-25-2004 15:15 »

My opinions on this list can be found at http://p072.ezboard.com/fsonichqcommunityfrm53.showMessage?topicID=277.topic   (I'm GremlinFanJohn1986 at the Mobius forum, BTW)
cyba

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« Reply #58 on: 05-25-2004 16:08 »

Yay ZIM!!!!!! Also is this "animation" or cartoons? (sorry being thick here) cos Wallace and Gromit are nowhere to be seen. Also Count Duckula? Anybody?
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #59 on: 05-25-2004 17:44 »

Yo, John!  I noticed that link lead to the Mobius Forum!  I used to lurk there!  Anyway, I think Beavis and Butthead should be knocked off the list and have Fry and Bender replace them!  Also, have Leela and Amy replace 'Josie and the Pussycats"!
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #60 on: 05-25-2004 17:52 »

Ren and Stimpy should have been alot higher and Rocko from Rocko's Modern Life should've been in there.
Also I would have liked to have seen alot more classic Warner Bros stuff and alot less crappy 70's and 80's stuff (Fat Albert at number 12?!)
Klumsy Kitty

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« Reply #61 on: 05-25-2004 20:38 »
« Last Edit on: 05-25-2004 20:38 »

Don't be mad at him Tweek, it just gives us new guys a chance to chime in.  Doesn't matter if the list is two years old or not,it is retarded in either case,and the fact that they put some of the newer shows up so high with even less history behind them shows that this was more of a popularity contest then a best cartoons list.

I'm not going to go over the whole list,plenty of people have already done enough work there on this thread,just want to add some highlights of my own,or lowlights.

Tom & Jerry being at 50 is a mortal sin, soneone's going to hell for this,mark my words.

Porky Pig: Ok, he is pretty low but other then playing the straight man(a la Leela) he really didn't do a lot in my mind. Maybe top 100 for me.

No Chip n' Dale??? They thrash Heckle & Jeckle,who weren't that bad.

Mickey got a little shorted maybe, but Donald got mugged, he is way better then that.

I personally liked Droopy since he had an umm, unique delivery but I don't know if he had enough work to qualify him for a true Greatest List. Same with Goofy, who is one of the all-time best IMO.

B & B should never have made this list period. If those jerks can get into this list with their "materiel" then Futurama should have had at least Bender in there, no question.

WORST TOP 50 LIST EVER

edit: Delivery Boy! WOO HOOO!
cyba

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« Reply #62 on: 05-26-2004 05:47 »

Marvin the Martian!
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #63 on: 06-03-2004 21:14 »

 
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Originally posted by Guy:
Ewoks, the Jar Jars of the original trilogy.

Uh, I like the Ewoks.
EvilLunch

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« Reply #64 on: 06-03-2004 21:32 »
« Last Edit on: 06-03-2004 21:32 »

1: Bugs Bunny- 'Kay.. crossdressing bunny. Classic, but.. I don't like him half as much as some other characters here...
3: Rocky & Bullwinkle- Dumb.
4: Beavis & Butthead- Dumb in a good way.
6: Fred Flintsone & Barney Rubble- I've seen them peddle cigarettes. THAT's classic.
7: Angelica Pickles- What the fuck? Seriously.. WHAT?
10: Eric Cartman- Finally, someone who makes me laugh.
16: Gumby- Say what you want, Gumby rocks.
17: Betty Boop- Sex4y.
18: Top Cat- Forgettable.
19: Mickey Mouse- Let me get this straight.. MICKEY... Is under TOP CAT. I don't think you understand the gravity of this. Disney is only a multibillion dollar organization. A yellow cat on at 3 AM on Boomerang outranks Mickey? WTF?
20: Popeye- Kick ass.
22: Scooby-Doo- Hated it.
28: Felix the Cat- Love the bag..
29: Mr. Magoo- The original pimp.
34: The Bill (from Schoolhouse Rock)- Gay. The Simpsons' Bill was better.
35: Space Ghost- I have a sinking feeling they mean the ORIGINAL Space Ghost. You know, the one that sucked.
39: Superman-Gay.
40: Batman-Gay.
41: Daria-Lesbian. [Cheap gag.. She is teh rox0r, despite her being painfully straight.]
42: Wonder Woman- SHE'S a lesbian.
43: Donald Duck- He doesn't wear pants, but when he gets out of the shower he wears a towel.
45: Boris & Natasha- Very cool.
48: Bobby Hill
49: Speed Racer- They have once again aroused my ire in that they ranked a tubby Texan schoolboy ahead of a world class racecar driver with a cool haircut.

I like Ewoks too.
So what he we learned? TV Guide sucks.
Kryten

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« Reply #65 on: 06-03-2004 23:37 »

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
39: Superman-Gay.
40: Batman-Gay.
41: Daria-Lesbian. [Cheap gag.. She is teh rox0r, despite her being painfully straight.]
42: Wonder Woman- SHE'S a lesbian.


Issues much?  tongue
cyba

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« Reply #66 on: 06-04-2004 03:33 »

The interesting thing is, has anyone actually seen a Mickey Mouse cartoon? At least I remember seeing Top Cat (great theme tune too), but I can't actually recall the last time I saw a MM cartoon. Sure you see him all the time used as a corporate symbol, but the only scene I can remember him in is that little clip of "Steamboat Willie" that they always show on documentaries about animation or Walt Disney.

Also, did anyone else hear that rumour, that deep inside a top security vault somewhere deep inside the Disney Corp, is a little film of Micky shagging Minnie which the Disney animators made to piss off "Uncle Joe" Walt?
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #67 on: 06-04-2004 04:20 »

Sure, I've seen Mickey Mouse cartoons. They used to use them for bookends for some of their old video releases. And some of their cinema ones, as well.


And I heard about that film. Apparently Walt saw it and fired everyone invloved. What a man.
EvilLunch

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« Reply #68 on: 06-04-2004 19:23 »
« Last Edit on: 06-04-2004 19:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
 
Issues much?    tongue

: gasp : Where would you get that idea?! I would say I wish they would make more Mickey Mouse cartoons, but have you seen that show House of Mouse? Yeesh.. I'll stick with Steamboat Willie..

I read on Snopes that they fired someone for suggesting such pornography, but I never heard tell of one actually being produced..! Wow. :/
Klumsy Kitty

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« Reply #69 on: 06-04-2004 20:32 »
« Last Edit on: 06-04-2004 20:32 »

 I agree with a lot of what you said EvilLunch; these TV Guide execs probably have not seen a cartoon since they were in diapers. I've seen a lot of the older MM toons but you do have to go out of your way to find them nowadays, truly sad. Donald & Goofy were wonderful partners with Mickey. Also the old MM comic strips just rocked, you would never believe that daredevil rough & tumble mouse would turn into a suburban wussie if you had seen them.

I still can't believe they left off Goofy over such drek as Beavis & Butthead. Goofy's humor is damn near unique.

edit: I didn't read my first post here before I wrote this, obviously it bothered me a lot since it stayed in my head all this time. B & B should just wither and die.
Alee

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« Reply #70 on: 06-07-2004 02:04 »

Gah. Who wrote this list? Moron! Bugs Bunny I absolutely agree with as being #1, but other than that...

Somebody explain to me how Beavis & Butthead and Angelica Pickles beat out Charlie Brown and Snoopy, Mickey Mouse, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, Wile E. Coyote, Donald Duck, Tom & Jerry, Felix the Cat, and Mighty Mouse. Tell me that's a joke and that the real list is coming out in another issue.

I would have put Bender somewhere in the rankings. Fry's my favorite, but it's Bender who's list material. Also, I would have replaced several of these ridiculous choices with Filburt Turtle, Count Duckula, Goofy, Danger Mouse, Darkwing Duck, Scrooge McDuck and The Pink Panther just to name a few.

Kicked your ass.
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #71 on: 07-03-2004 15:52 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2004 15:52 »

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
1: Bugs Bunny- 'Kay.. crossdressing bunny. Classic, but.. I don't like him half as much as some other characters here...
3: Rocky & Bullwinkle- Dumb.
Odd you would insult the show that inspired the sense of humor of Simpsons and Futurama.

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
4: Beavis & Butthead- Dumb in a good way.
6: Fred Flintsone & Barney Rubble- I've seen them peddle cigarettes. THAT's classic.
7: Angelica Pickles- What the fuck? Seriously.. WHAT?
10: Eric Cartman- Finally, someone who makes me laugh.
16: Gumby- Say what you want, Gumby rocks.
17: Betty Boop- Sex4y.
18: Top Cat- Forgettable.
19: Mickey Mouse- Let me get this straight.. MICKEY... Is under TOP CAT. I don't think you understand the gravity of this. Disney is only a multibillion dollar organization. A yellow cat on at 3 AM on Boomerang outranks Mickey? WTF?

I like T.C. quite a bit, but I agree that he shouldn't outrank Mickey Mouse, perhaps the most famous toon in history.

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
20: Popeye- Kick ass.
22: Scooby-Doo- Hated it.
28: Felix the Cat- Love the bag..
29: Mr. Magoo- The original pimp.
Hmmm?

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
34: The Bill (from Schoolhouse Rock)- Gay. 
Odd that a Lesibian (who are good people, BTW) would use 'Gay' as an insulting term.

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
The Simpsons' Bill was better.
35: Space Ghost- I have a sinking feeling they mean the ORIGINAL Space Ghost. You know, the one that sucked.

Actually, they're talking 'bout the C2C version. And the original SG was better than most of the other action cartoons of the time.

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
39: Superman-Gay.
40: Batman-Gay.
41: Daria-Lesbian. [Cheap gag.. She is teh rox0r, despite her being painfully straight.]
42: Wonder Woman- SHE'S a lesbian.
43: Donald Duck- He doesn't wear pants, but when he gets out of the shower he wears a towel.
What does Donald not wearing pants have to do with anything?

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
45: Boris & Natasha- Very cool.
This coming from someone who thinks R&B are dumb.

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:

I like Ewoks too.
Welcome to the club.

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
So what he we learned? TV Guide sucks.

I learned that from when they didn't include MST3K on their top 50 TV shows list.


 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Well, a third of these characters are completely unknown to me.

Tom and Jery 50th!?! And Beavis & Butthead 4th? I really don't know whether I should laugh or cry.

Donald Duck as 43rd? Below Mr Magoo (what is he doing on this list in the first place)?

No room for Darkwing, huh? Or Futurama characters? Who own TV guide anyway? FOX?

Good points, Teral, but you forgot to mention that Daffy, a-long-time Warner cartoon star got ranked lower than Fat Albert; that Porky, who first made the Warner cartoons very popular, ranked REALLY low; that Goofy, perhaps the funniest classic Disney character, was conspicuosly absent; Pikachu and Speed Racern were included, but Mario, Luigi, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Sonic, Pac-Man, Kirby, etc. and Osamu Tezuka's creations (Tetsuwan Atom/Astro Boy, Jungle Emperor Leo/Kimba the White Lion, Phoenix, the Amazing 3, etc.). More proof that TV Guide is owned by FOX and hates Futurama: When Futurama was ending its run on FOX, TV Guide published an article about that instead of trying to offer sympathy to depressed fans, happily pointed out that Futurama was in reruns on CN (i.e. making money).
David A

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« Reply #72 on: 07-04-2004 00:39 »

 
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Originally posted by John Pannozzi:
Odd that a Lesibian (who are good people, BTW) would use 'Gay' as an insulting term.

That was the joke, Ringo.   tongue
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #73 on: 07-05-2004 01:21 »

 
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Originally posted by John Pannozzi:
  When Futurama was ending its run on FOX, TV Guide published an article about that instead of trying to offer sympathy to depressed fans, happily pointed out that Futurama was in reruns on CN (i.e. making money).


Does anybody have a copy of this article?
winna

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« Reply #74 on: 07-05-2004 01:52 »

I think I read that article... I was perusing one of the tv guides in the super walmart and happened across something similar to that.
Shaucker

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« Reply #75 on: 07-05-2004 22:54 »

1: Bugs Bunny: fine as number one; he is the top
2: Homer Simpson- agreement
3: Rocky & Bullwinkle- agree
4: Beavis & Butthead- nooo, bad. wasn't anywhere near as innfluential as the Simpsons or Ren and Stimpy
5: The Grinch- shouldn't be as high on the list. just a one time shot as an animated character, although had a word coined after him
6: Fred Flintsone & Barney Rubble- should be over Rocky and Bullwinkle, because was lognest running cartoon for some time
7: Angelica Pickles- no, no, no, no! not that classic or well recognized, nor that great of a character
8: Charlie Brown & Snoopy- people don't realize that "cartoon" doesn't just refer to animated stuff. "Peanuts" comic is CLASSIC
9: Spongebob Squarepants- god, get it off the list. the ani is just a carbon copy of R&S and the story isnt THAT good
10: Eric Cartman- should be lower or off. too new to be a top, although i can't disagree that it is a great new style
11: Bart & Lisa Simpson- couldn't they just do "Simpson Family" as one?
12: Fat Albert- keep as is. first cartoon show to focus on African American character
13: The Powerpuff Girls- off the list...shouldn't be on yet
14: Daffy Duck- hells yeah. he's awesome
15: Pikachu- no! change to Astroboy and we'll talk
16: Gumby- he's great, but ISN'T A CARTOON!
17: Betty Boop- quite neat, should be there
18: Top Cat- who?
19: Mickey Mouse- i hate him, but he is a classic icon of tv, film, and merchendise
20: Popeye- hehe, yeah
21: Gerald McBoingBoing (who?)- who?
22: Scooby-Doo- eh...i don't like him, but he's quite popular
23: Underdog- should be lower; the
only reason i agree he's on the list is because of Andy Kaufman
24: Josie and the Pussycats- lower, but i love them, both the shows and comics
25: Heckle & Jeckle- who?
26: Arthur- the aardvarky kid? i love him!
27: Winnie the Pooh- if we're speaking tv, movies, AND book illustrations, then yeah
28: Felix the Cat- of COURSE!
29: Mr. Magoo- stupid
30: George of the Jungle- see Mr. Magoo
31: Ren & Stimpy- why isn't this higher?
32: Tome Terrific (again, who?)- agreed with "who?"
33: Tweety & Sylvester- yeah
34: The Bill (from Schoolhouse Rock)- haha, HELLS yeah
35: Space Ghost- hee, maybe a bit lower
36: Yogi Bear & Boo Boo- and he stole so many pic-a-nik baskets, too
37: Mighty Mouse- yeah, he's cool
38: Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner- neutral..i dont like them, but everyone knows em
39: Superman- yeah, maybe higher if comics count
40: Batman- see Superman
41: Daria- eh...i love her, but not that long a run or that innovative a show
42: Wonder Woman- no..not a great cartoon, go with Lynda Carter
43: Donald Duck- heh...yeah
44: Alvin (the Chipmunk)- eeeeeeew. too high pitched vocally
45: Boris & Natasha- doesn't that count up thar with Rocky and Bullwinkle?
46: Woody Woodpecker- eh, he's fine where he is
47: Porky Pig- why isn't this higher?
48: Bobby Hill- ew. what a stupid show
49: Speed Racer- replace with Transformers and we're good
50: Tom & Jerry- replace with Bender and move to Number 20 or so

Alee

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« Reply #76 on: 07-06-2004 01:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Shaucker:
9: Spongebob Squarepants- god, get it off the list. the ani is just a carbon copy of R&S and the story isnt THAT good

I have to disagree. The animation borrows from "Ren & Stimpy", yes, but I wouldn't call it a carbon copy by a long shot. Every style of animation is affected by and incorporates elements of the styles that came before it, and while "SpongeBob" is no exception the show still retains a look and atmosphere unique unto itself.

The storylines and dialogue are some of the most entertaining I've seen and heard, with a myriad of subtle side jokes, sight gags and references. "SpongeBob" is one of the few cartoons ("The Fairly OddParents" being another) these days with writers who don't treat kids like idiots. It's clever, witty, and doesn't dumb itself down - which, incidentally, are some of the reasons why its fan base reaches beyond kids.

SpongeBob himself most certainly deserves a place on the list. The kind of impact this character has had is incredible. In a relatively short time he's become a phenomenon recognized worldwide and the show's influence will likely be seen in cartoons to come. Love him or hate him, you can't deny that SpongeBob has certainly left an impression on pop culture.

Kicked your ass.
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #77 on: 07-06-2004 10:01 »

I agree.The great thing about Ren and Stimpy was that it revitalised the animation industry in the same way that Star Wars revitalised Sci-Fi movies. Saying that Spongebob is a rip-off of Ren and Stimpy is a bit like saying Alien is a rip-off of Star Wars. 
Shaucker

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« Reply #78 on: 07-06-2004 11:48 »

Fine, it's not a ripoff....but it uses all the techniques that were invented by Ren and Stimpy, and suddenly everyone swoons over Spongebob. I hate the idea that a character invented in the last...three or so years can suddenly be "one of the best of all time". I really believe that there has to be a sticking power of a much longer time-look at Bugs Bunny or Micky Mouse- for a character to REALLY be such an icon that it can be one of the top.
I also think people are overlooking characters that are classic only in print, like Superman, or Josie and the Pussycats, or (and he should be on this list) the New Yorker guy. You don't have to be animated to be a cartoon character.
And if you say I'm over analyzing, maybe I am. But I'm also a animation fan, a cartoonist, and a comic reader/writer. I do take this stuff fairly seriously, because it's what I want to do, and stuff like this is key to reading what's next.
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #79 on: 07-07-2004 08:51 »

Why shouldn't Spongebob use techniques invented by Ren and Stimpy? I mean what's the point of inventing a whole new techinique if you're the only show that can use it?
Besides alot of what was seen as new about Ren and Stimpy was heavily influenced by Bob Clampett cartoons of the 1940's. 
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