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Shadowstar

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« on: 07-05-2002 12:44 »

Has anyone noticed a pattern around here? Mary Kate & Ashley as spies on ABC, Totally Spies on ABC Family, Kim Possible on Disney... we're getting overrun by girl spy cartoons! And man, I must be pathetic to even know about them.

"Rosebud... Yes, Rosebud frozen peas. Full of country goodness and green pea-ness. ...wait, that's terrible. I quit! ...just a handful for the road. ...oh, what luck. There's a french fry stuck in my beard."
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Kryten

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« Reply #1 on: 07-05-2002 14:28 »
« Last Edit on: 07-05-2002 14:28 »

No, pathetic is actually watching them.

*Has seen a number of episodes of "Totally Spies"*
Impossible

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« Reply #2 on: 07-05-2002 14:30 »

Do "The Powerpuff Girls" fall under the title of Girl Spy Cartoons?
Kryten

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« Reply #3 on: 07-05-2002 14:33 »

No, 'cause they're not spies.
Tweek

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« Reply #4 on: 07-05-2002 15:00 »

...And they are cool  cool
Torquemada

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« Reply #5 on: 07-05-2002 20:08 »

Fighting crime, trying to save the world,
Here they come just in time,
The Powerpuff Girls.
Speli

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« Reply #6 on: 07-05-2002 20:32 »
« Last Edit on: 07-05-2002 20:32 »

I think they should make a cartoon super smash brothers so the powerpuff girls can finally get their asses kicked! Dexter would also be funny (though I want him to win!!!)   evil laugh In a matter of fact...
David A

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« Reply #7 on: 07-05-2002 23:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
No, pathetic is actually watching them.

*Has seen a number of episodes of "Totally Spies"*

So have I.  Actually, I think it's kind of an amusing show.  It's sort of a parody of Charlie's Angels.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #8 on: 07-06-2002 00:57 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 So have I.  Actually, I think it's kind of an amusing show.  It's sort of a parody of Charlie's Angels.

It's what you get when you throw Anime,A smidge or Origanality and CA into a Blender...

Speli

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« Reply #9 on: 07-06-2002 02:15 »

I'm scared...
David A

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« Reply #10 on: 07-06-2002 02:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
 It's what you get when you throw Anime,A smidge or Origanality and CA into a Blender...

It's more like what you get when you throw anime, Charlie's Angels, and Clueless into a blender.
Speli

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« Reply #11 on: 07-06-2002 02:34 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2002 02:34 »

Charlie's angels the show or the movie?
Nurdbot

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« Reply #12 on: 07-06-2002 02:36 »

The Movie,Or the show
David A

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« Reply #13 on: 07-06-2002 02:48 »

Charlie's Angels the show, and Clueless the movie.   wink
Just Chris

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« Reply #14 on: 07-06-2002 10:01 »

If it has exploding vampires, count me in!
Nurdbot

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« Reply #15 on: 07-06-2002 10:57 »

Hah,hah,hah !
Speli

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« Reply #16 on: 07-06-2002 11:49 »

Angel 1: Don't go in there, it's ticking!
Angel 2: I have to!
*opens coffin, vampire springs up*
Vampire: Blaah!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
MizPataki

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« Reply #17 on: 07-06-2002 16:33 »

I've seen some episodes of "Totally Spies" and "Kim Possible."  However, I wouldn't watch Mary Kate and Ashley's show if someone pointed a gun to my head.  Anyways, "Totally Spies" is really weird.  On one level, it's terrribly pathetic.  On another, it's absolutely laughable.  It's just so stupid, you can't help  but laugh. (Off-topic- that prissy girl reminds me of Libby Chesler...)  I'm actually quite fond of Kim Possible.  It's incredibly unrealistic, but funny.  I just watched the "robot-zit" eppy and the whole 'cheerleaders don't get detention' thing made me crack up.  It made me think of one of my favorite movies, "Sugar and Spice."  Kim herself isn't very funny, but I really like Ron and Rufus.  Maybe I'm just a sucker for Disney junk...  big grin

David A

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« Reply #18 on: 07-06-2002 17:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Just Chris:
If it has exploding vampires, count me in!

Well, not in any episodes I've seen, but I wouldn't put it past this show.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #19 on: 07-06-2002 17:29 »

*Lights a MagPyre and run's*
There's you're exploding vampire
David A

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« Reply #20 on: 07-06-2002 17:43 »

And then there was that episode with the erupting volcano; in the end, the "lava" turned out to be maranara sauce.
Just Chris

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« Reply #21 on: 07-08-2002 10:10 »

Wink: That "lava" is just Orange-aid, made by our sponsor Osaka Orange-aid Concern.
Homer: It burns, it burns!
Wink: It's loaded with wasabe!
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #22 on: 10-16-2004 00:18 »
« Last Edit on: 10-18-2004 00:00 »

Being a spy fanactic, let me answer this.  Our culture today just loves seeing female in sexy spy suits and kicking butt.  Plain and simply.  And now we want to see them take charge and not just be sidekicks.  Out of the shows listed above, I only like Kim Possible.  Kim Possible looks very attractive for a cartoon character.  That's comparing her with Amy and Leela.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #23 on: 10-18-2004 02:38 »
« Last Edit on: 10-18-2004 02:38 »

Here's an article I found about this subject

 
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Posted on Fri, Sep. 17, 2004

GIRL POWER

From sidekick to superheroine: Women in pop culture are finally getting more respect

By JENEE OSTERHELDT

Knight Ridder Newspapers


Female heroes on TV were few and far between when Christy Carlson Romano was a kid.

''Charlie's Angels'' and ''Wonder Woman'' were fading by the early '80s, and among the prevailing strong females on television were the likes of She-Ra, Rainbow Brite, Punky Brewster and sidekicks such as Velma on ''Scooby-Doo.''

But times are changing. More and more it's the girls who are saving the day.

Romano, 20, is doing her part to make sure there is plenty of girl power on television, in video games and on Broadway.

Best known for her role as the overachiever Ren Stevens of Disney's ''Even Stevens,'' Romano has made a career out of playing strong, smart girls. She voices ''Kim Possible,'' Disney's animated secret agent and butt-kicking high school cheerleader. She's also on Broadway playing Belle in ''Beauty and the Beast.''

''These women are so important because they are ideal,'' Romano says. ''But so many celebrities don't offer the idea that role models need to, but these characters offer positive images that are ideal for female role models.''

In addition, whether it's a superheroine such as the groundbreaking Wonder Woman or an everyday girl such as Dora the Explorer, the rise of female leads is proof that women are finally getting their proper respect.

In the past, women were often created as counterpoints, love interests or foes for stronger, leading male characters, says Maggie Thompson, editor of The Comics Buyer's Guide , the longest-running publication about comic books.

The few females to exude extreme girl power a half century or more ago included Wonder Woman and Little Lulu. But now and in the future, Thompson says it's safe to say there will continue to be more superheroines.

Anya Corazon is the newest female heroine in comic books. Introduced last month as the lead character of Marvel's Amazing Fantasy series, Anya is not only a 15-year-old developing Spidey-abilities, she's Latina, making her the first Latina superheroine to star in her own comic book at Marvel.

The idea for doing a female version of Spider-Man isn't unique, but to do one who is so diverse, young and powerful sets her apart, says Joe Quesada, editor in chief at Marvel Comics.

In addition, Anya is petite and her outfit isn't body-baring or sexy.

''She is very different when you stack her up to Wonder Woman,'' Quesada says. ''In the past, female characters were Amazonian, with larger than average attributes and prone to inappropriate stereotypes, which turned off women from the genre.''

Over the years these images have changed and heroines have become stronger and given their own comics, TV shows and movies, Quesada says.

And as a father of a 3-year-old girl, Quesada thinks this flood of femininity in comic books, television and on the big screens is great.

The biggest boost in leading ladies has come in the form of animated characters, including Disney's ''Kim Possible,'' Cartoon Network's ''The Powerpuff Girls'' and Nickelodeon's Jenny in ''My Life as a Teenage Robot.''

But Cartoon Network has the largest stack of shows centered on or featuring extremely gallant girls with ''Totally Spies!,'' ''Teen Titans,'' ''Justice League'' and ''Code Lyoko.''

Ironically, the network's core is made up of more boys than girls, says Sam Register, vice president of development at Cartoon Network. So the goal is to continue to please the boys but bring in the girls as well. And ''The Powerpuff Girls'' not only brought both the girls and the boys in, but also appealed to all ages, including the college hipster set, Register says.

'' 'The Powerpuff Girls' were doing kick-butt stuff,'' he says. ''They are preschoolers cutting class to save the world. Powerpuff Girls kicked the whole girl power thing up another notch.''

They also set the standard for showing females in a strong and positive light.

''What we understand is that a girl heroine isn't just for girls,'' Register says. ''And in order for her to appeal to everyone, she has to be cool, smart, independent and strong.''

Catwoman is the purr-fect example of this dual appeal. She's cool and smart and she also walks the line between good and bad. And the bigger picture is that she's being portrayed by 37-year old Halle Berry, says Carissa Rosenberg, entertainment director at Seventeen.

''It's great that these characters inspire young girls, but looking at Halle Berry is inspiring to women, too,'' Rosenberg says.

A lot of stereotypes are being broken, she says. ''Back in the day, tough girls were often portrayed as unattractive or smart girls were geeky,'' she says. ''It's amazing that there are these strong female role model types that are independent, strong, smart and beautiful and sexy.''

But Christy Carlson Romano doesn't believe girl power is here to stay.

''I do not think it is a trend or the new standard, but I think it is one of those rare moments in time when we can thank society for recognizing how hard women work,'' Romano says. ''Every woman wants to be heard, and most of the time their voices say better things anyway. These characters provide a voice, and we're being heard through these strong women.''

Marvel's Quesada sees it differently.

''I don't think this new movement of leading female heroines will phase out,'' Quesada says. ''The characters have to reflect the world we live in, not just here at Marvel, but everywhere.''


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Boundary breakers • 1942 -- Wonder Woman becomes the first female superhero to get her own comic book series, and gets her own TV show in the '70s. • 1940 -- Catwoman makes her debut in the Batman series as a villain. This summer she has her own movie. • 1959 -- Superman's cousin, Supergirl , makes her first comic book appearance. • 1963 -- The X-Men make their comic book debut, which features Marvel Girl. • 1975 -- The Bionic Woman makes her TV debut. • 1976 -- ''Charlie's Angels'' begins on TV. • 1983 -- Rainbow Brite saves Rainbowland from darkness. • 1985 -- She-Ra , He-Man's sister, rocks. • 1992 -- ''Sailor Moon'' becomes one of the most famous anime cartoons in the world. • 1992 -- ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer'' is a tongue-in-cheek movie that becomes a popular TV series in '97. • 1995 -- Aeon Flux becomes MTV's undercover agent. • 1998 -- ''Mulan'' is a female warrior starring in a Disney movie. • 1998 -- ''The Powerpuff Girls,'' kick cartoon butt. • 2001 -- ''Dora the Explorer'' makes waves on Nickelodeon. • 2002 -- ''Kim Possible'' makes Disney debut. • 2003 -- The ladies of ''Totally Spies!,'' make U.S. debut. • 2004 -- ''Atomic Betty,'' comes to Cartoon Network.
 
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #24 on: 10-18-2004 08:08 »

You mean... woman can kick ass too!!?!?!?!?!?  eek

I gotta start paying attention to more bumper stickers...
Cyberman

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« Reply #25 on: 10-18-2004 11:43 »

Has Mary-Kate and Ashley been cancelled? If so, thank god.
David A

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« Reply #26 on: 10-18-2004 17:01 »

I suppose that this is as good a place as any to complain about this:

Cartoon Network is showing new episodes of Totally Spies.  In the new episodes, Katie Griffin has replaced Katie Leigh as the voice of Alex.  As much as I normally like Katie Griffin, her voice just doesn't suit the character.  Besides, Katie Leigh's voice was the main appeal of the show, at least for me.
RavenStar

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« Reply #27 on: 10-18-2004 18:24 »

Eww, you watch Totally Spies? Gross!!!

~FazeShift~

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« Reply #28 on: 10-18-2004 19:02 »

There was an anime short of Alias on the season 3 DVD's, it was ok.
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« Reply #29 on: 10-18-2004 19:21 »

 
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Originally posted by RavenStar:
Eww, you watch Totally Spies? Gross!!!

laff  laff  laff  laff

Wait...wait...I think...

 laff

FemJesse

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« Reply #30 on: 10-18-2004 23:03 »
« Last Edit on: 10-18-2004 23:03 »

Totally Spies is the stupidest strangest most derogatory to women disgusting addictive POS show that I have to watch every day.
RavenStar

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« Reply #31 on: 10-18-2004 23:37 »

I'm all for ass-kicking women, but please, don't have them whine and bitch about everything. Women are just as smart as men, writers!

fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #32 on: 10-19-2004 00:10 »

Ravenstar, that is one reason why I love the show Kim Possible.  Kim never whines or cry, except for that episode where she was wearing a moodulator and it affected her emotions.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #33 on: 10-19-2004 02:14 »

And for the cold blood tentacle molestation. Oooh yeah.
FemJesse

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« Reply #34 on: 10-19-2004 15:43 »

For some reason I love watching these preppy girls get their asses kicked and get abducted a couple times every episode.  Totally Spies... feh.
Anyone find any relation between the TS animation and the TT animation?  When Teen Titans had just come out I could have sworn it was by the same animators/studio.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #35 on: 10-19-2004 17:32 »

I've seen a little bit of all those cartoons mentioned.  I didn't like any of them at all.  None of them appealed to me.  Too childish and stereotypical for my taste.  Even though the girl characters in those cartoons have adventures and kick butt, they're always intersted in the same things: hair, makeup, and boys. *YAWN*!   

If I wanted to make a cartoon about a girl, I would make her into a teenage curmgedon (sp?) who's main interests are video games and alternative rock music, and has a bit of a vengeful streak against anyone who tries to put her down in some way.  Plus, has no interest in hair, makeup, and boys whatsoever!  Sort of a way to teach kids that you can't always have a boy-crazy trendy.  Let's face it, teen girls in cartoons, sit-coms, and movies who are boy-crazy, trendy, and interested in hair, and makeup has been done to death!  Just take a look at that horrid "Braceface" and you'll see what I mean.

Anyway, the only cartoons I like are Futurama and South Park.  And sometimes King of the Hill.
VelourFog

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« Reply #36 on: 10-19-2004 22:09 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Ravenstar, that is one reason why I love the show Kim Possible.  Kim never whines or cry, except for that episode where she was wearing a moodulator and it affected her emotions.
Is this guy creeping anyone else out? Why don't you marry Kim Possible if you love her show so much?

also "Oh totally spies is stupid, check out my teen titans avatar and sig."

fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #37 on: 10-19-2004 22:51 »
« Last Edit on: 10-19-2004 22:51 »

Okay, here is why I like the show Kim Possible:

1. Good Writers- 
Co-Creators Mark McCorkle and Bob Schooley have written some of the episodes on the show.  They both were once writers of two popular cartoons from the 1980's: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and The Real Ghostbusters.  The show has a similar type of humor as Matt Groening, only more PG-ish and has less Social Commentary.  Kim Possible is by far the best show Disney has done in recent years.

2. Good Voice Actors- 
Kim Possible has attracted many voice actors.  John DiMaggio,  Lauren Tom, Dan Castellaneta,  Maurice LaMarche and Ricardo Montalban has made guest appearances.

Nancy Cartwright who does the voice of Bart Simpson does the voice of Rufus.

John DiMaggio plays the voice of both Dr. Draken and Motor Ed, seriously.  Two popular villains of Kim Possible.

Lauren Tom and Dan Castellaneta were in the same episode.  Dan played one of Draken's goons, and Lauren Tom played a character called Yoshiko

Yoshiko: I am Yoshiko, translator for Nakasumi-san.
(Ron slicks his hair back)
Ron: Y'know, I'm looking for a lucky someone to go to a dance with me...
(Yoshiko whispers to Nakasumi)
(Gong sounds)
(Nakasumi mutters back)
Yoshiko: Uhhh... Nakasumi-san says he's very flattered, but given the current crisis, he feels it would be... inappropriate... to go to the dance.
Ron: No! Ew, no! I meant--

Maurice LaMarche and Phil LaMarr were in the same episode.  Maurice played a scientist, Professor Acari, and Phil played a detention student named Vinne.  He also did another character in another.

Kim: Why would you build a nano sized explosive?
Professor Acari: I have a lot of time on my hands.  (And he's not a villain.)

Kim: Jr., Vinney, Big Mike, *what* are you staring at?
Jr.: Cheerleader, you've got a zit.
Vinney: Cheerleaders don't get zits.
Jr.: Oh, than maybe it's a tiny, explosive device.


Kim: Looks bad. He's got some kind of ray-thingy!
Ron: What kind of ray-thingy?
Drakken (shouting from the air): Gravatomic!

Vinnie: Aw, man! That's gravatomic!


With the exception of John DiMaggio, all these voice actors had small parts for Kim Possible.  However, I think that shows how much the loved doing the show that they were willing to do these small roles.

3. Futurama similarities-
DiMaggio's Draken and Motor Ed both sound very much like Bender.  DiMaggio's also done minor characters using his Sal voice.  Brings back memories. 

Kim and Ron are Fry and Leela as teenagers.  If you notice the similaries, it is very haunting.  Ron comes up with crazy ideas as Fry.  Kim saves Ron many times as Leela saves Fry.  Of course Ron saves Kim once and a while as does Fry saves Leela.  And just recently, fans are going wild to learn that there may be a love interest between Kim and Ron, just like how us Futurama fans went crazy to see Fry and Leela finally get together.  And like Futurama it faces early cancellation, but only due to a dumb policy Disney has for their shows.

4. Kim Possible is not the typical spy girl cartoon-
Unlike, Totally Spies and those other cartoon female spy shows, Kim does not fit that stereotype.  She doesn't stop to put on make-up before saving the world or do other things that those other cartoon female spies do.  She has a Leela-like quality.  I've read reviews of Kim Possible being a cartoon verison of Alias.  So, you can't put Kim Possible on the same list with Totally Spies and Mary-Kate and Ashley in Action.

5. Kim Possible was one of the influences for my SpyOrama fanfics-

In addition to James Bond, Get Smart and other spy films, Kim Possible has influenced me to come up with ideas for how SpyOrama.

SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #38 on: 10-19-2004 22:54 »

We saw that in your other thread. We cared just as much then.
David A

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« Reply #39 on: 10-19-2004 22:59 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Kim never whines or cry,

That's a shame.  Real girls do sometimes.

 
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Originally posted by FemJesse:
Anyone find any relation between the TS animation and the TT animation?

Not really, other than the fact that they're both western animation done in a Japanese anime-like style.

 
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001:
If I wanted to make a cartoon about a girl, I would make her into a teenage curmgedon (sp?) who's main interests are video games and alternative rock music, and has a bit of a vengeful streak against anyone who tries to put her down in some way.  Plus, has no interest in hair, makeup, and boys whatsoever!

It's been done.

 
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Anyway, the only cartoons I like are Futurama and South Park.  And sometimes King of the Hill.

I find that hard to believe, coming from someone with the name of a Pokιmon character in his username.

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