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sparkybarky

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« on: 10-06-2012 20:17 »

(I searched for some sort of mention about this show, including "Benedict Cumberbatch," but got no relevant hits. If this is a redundant topic, mods please move accordingly.)

So, is anyone a fan of this show like I have become within the past week? Seriously, the only TV I watch has been Futurama (and sporadically, PBS cooking shows and okay, occasionally, "Ghost Adventures" for the beefcake factor), and I discovered this show on Netflix Instant Watch. I absolutely love it. I think what bothers me the most about it is some of the contrived plot points and the sometimes tenuous connections in logic that leads Holmes to his deductions.

But I find everything else--the acting, dialogue, cinematography, production values, use of graphics and effects, pacing--to be superb. Really, it's the characters and the excellent acting behind those characters that makes the show; otherwise it would just be a dime-a-dozen procedural crime show. Benedict Cumberbatch is absolutely brilliant. He manages to make Holmes aloof, maddeningly anti-social, and arrogant, while also revealing a more complicated, surprising side. I was especially intrigued by his characterization in "A Scandal in Belgravia," where there were hints of him actually feeling some kind of emotion--however nebulous and ambiguous it was--for Irene Adler. It's been over 20 years since I read "A Scandal in Bohemia" so I don't recall if Conan Doyle portrayed Holmes' admiration for The Woman as begrudging admiration rather than actual attraction. I think it's the former, but maybe this uncertainty is an excuse for me to pick up my anthology again and snuggle into some blankets and read, now that the weather is mercifully cooling off here.

I find the show quite hilarious at times, too. It's very well done. Anyone else enjoy it?

(I confess that I have to enable subtitles to fully understand everything, especially since the pacing can be quite fast--I wonder if British people are sometimes also stymied by American accents, too.)
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #1 on: 10-11-2012 02:39 »

Is that the one with Martin Freeman? If so, then yes, I've seen the first episode, and yes, I thought it was great. It was a while ago, so I don't really remember much. tongue
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« Reply #2 on: 10-11-2012 14:50 »

But the US version has Lucy Liu bot as Jane Watson!

CAN'T DECIDE!
sparkybarky

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« Reply #3 on: 10-11-2012 18:02 »

Why do Americans insist on taking perfectly good films and shows and "Americanizing" them? I heard of that Lucy Liu one, but I'm not sure if it's supposed to be an adaptation of the BBC show. I mean, do entertainment execs think that Americans are so dumb and unsophisticated that they can't appreciate anything where characters speak with non-American accents, or in a foreign language?

I mean, case in point, "Let the Right One In"--why did they go and make another version of that, an already wonderful movie? It really gets on my nerves, and makes me wonder if we're just really doomed here.

OT, I love Benedict. He's the shit. He plays Sherlock so well. I have always found that character incredibly fascinating. Maybe he was really a high-functioning autistic savant, before the world came up with such a label.
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #4 on: 10-13-2012 03:17 »

I finished the first season (i had started 2 years ago and left the 3rd episode until this night"

i absolutelly love this show... it seems quite natural despite being in the modern era .. its totally "transported" ...  love the plot, the acting, how we see Holmes mind working (tought usually after he made the math) and his relationship with Watson is quite hilarious.. actually sometimes is a bit anoying when Watson fails in front of Holmes.. is funny but quite played in the first season (didnt yet watched the second)

cant believe the americans "versioned" this... is that a joke?
winna

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« Reply #5 on: 10-13-2012 08:20 »
« Last Edit on: 10-13-2012 08:25 »

But the US version has Lucy Liu bot as Jane Watson!

CAN'T DECIDE!

British version is better hands down.  Although Lucy Liu is in the other thing.

Btw, Sherlock dies in series 2.

Why do Americans insist on taking perfectly good films and shows and "Americanizing" them? I heard of that Lucy Liu one, but I'm not sure if it's supposed to be an adaptation of the BBC show. I mean, do entertainment execs think that Americans are so dumb and unsophisticated that they can't appreciate anything where characters speak with non-American accents, or in a foreign language?

I mean, case in point, "Let the Right One In"--why did they go and make another version of that, an already wonderful movie? It really gets on my nerves, and makes me wonder if we're just really doomed here.

OT, I love Benedict. He's the shit. He plays Sherlock so well. I have always found that character incredibly fascinating. Maybe he was really a high-functioning autistic savant, before the world came up with such a label.

British television does it too.  The worst case is the American version of Coupling which was secretly just a British version of Friends.  Coupling is better than Friends though.

I'm not sure if the American Sherlock is an adaptation or them just trying to ride the wave.  Robert Downey Jr. played Sherlock in those successful american movies before this recent Sherlock series on the BBC as an example.  Plus Sherlock Holmes is an interesting character to begin with; House happens to be Sherlock Holmes wrapped in something else, as well.

The Robert Downey Jr. movies were alright action flicks, but the BBC's Sherlock series is really a great drama, and humorous to boot.  I haven't seen the American version yet, but I don't have to to know that it doesn't hold a candle to its British counterpart.
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« Reply #6 on: 01-03-2014 01:56 »

*bumpementary*

New episode was good, the boys are back in town!
Hawk

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« Reply #7 on: 01-04-2014 20:11 »

Aw yiss, I have been waiting so long for season three, and the first episode did not dissapoint! I wonder how the new main bad guy is, and I certantly want one of these t-shirts.
winna

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« Reply #8 on: 01-05-2014 02:10 »

* winna blinks
Tweek

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« Reply #9 on: 01-05-2014 23:35 »

I thought the second episode of the season was better than the first; Sherlock's delivery of the best man's speech was rather hilarious!
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #10 on: 01-08-2014 13:29 »

Johnny Lee Miller's version Elementary has Lucy Liu in it.   

Javier Lopez

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« Reply #11 on: 02-17-2014 03:30 »

Quite nice series 3... the first episode is the weakest of the tree but its good non the less (still better than 1X02 and 2X02)

The second episode doesnt start much good..it looks like a bottled show and that its all about Sherlock preparing for a wedding and getting drunk.. until all the sudden all pieces fall in place and youhave to quickly build the rest of the episode to understanf how all is related..

Third episode was quite good with a quite original and nasty "villain" (wich comes from a Sherlock Holmes original story like many many other elements) ..

tought the ending provoques quite mixed feelings

Also some people complain that Sherlock seems less clever (or more stupid depending on the perspective).. but i actually prefer this to the Asperger perfect all-knowing Sherlock that seems short of a robot..or alien...or an alien-robot

also Sherlock has been interacting with people (and Watson specially) for some years now.. that has to soft him down somehow
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #12 on: 04-14-2014 16:12 »

I just finished catching up on this show, and it's really darn good. I particularly love the editing and neat effects they use with Sherlock's "mind palace". Benedict Cumberbatch's amazing acting ability is just the icing on the cake.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #13 on: 10-19-2014 20:42 »

So, I finally decided to buy season 1+2 on blueray.
The show does look good so far. As I am familiar with Jeremy Bretts old Sherlock, it was obvious where Benedict Cumberbatch got his inspiration from.
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