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cyber_turnip

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« Reply #600 on: 11-17-2014 22:08 »

Magic: The Gathering? Interesting.
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« Reply #601 on: 11-18-2014 00:28 »

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cyber_turnip

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« Reply #602 on: 11-20-2014 14:53 »

Very strange episode. Not bad, though. Randy's subplot was the best part. Also, was that Peter Serafinowicz again?
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« Reply #603 on: 11-20-2014 15:03 »

Also, was that Peter Serafinowicz again?

Most likely.

Decent episode, I agree with turnip about Randy's side-plot being better than the main plot. Glad to see Kenny used quite a bit. Was expecting a death, but oh well, they have two episodes left this season.

Also, seems both of those press images weren't even scenes in the final episode. It's fun seeing all the changes they make. Such as in the preview clip, Stan only says "Mitchell sent us.", but in the episode he says "Mitchell the janitor sent us."

Also, fun behind the scenes fact from South Park's Twitter feed: "Grounded Vindaloop" was originally called "The Datalis Concern". big grin
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« Reply #604 on: 11-20-2014 16:53 »

I'm still not sure what to make of this week's episode. I enjoyed it, even though it wasn't making me laugh out loud as much as it should have been. Randy's scenes were pretty great (and even funnier when thought of in the context that it technically means Lorde is performing all the cock magic), but I really don't know anything about Magic: The Gathering, so all that stuff kinda went over my head. It's nice to see Matt & Trey trying something different for a few weeks in a row now, at least. Though I still kinda wish they'd gone for the "completely serialised season" approach this year. hmpf
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« Reply #605 on: 11-20-2014 17:07 »

Interesting episode, indeed. There was good jokes, but I guess it wasn't particularly funny episode. If the plot had gone the way it seems in press images, it would have been very different with more about characters. It probably would have been better, but it was still ok with Randy's plot and all.
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« Reply #606 on: 11-20-2014 18:19 »
« Last Edit on: 11-20-2014 18:31 »

I didn't get all the Magic stuff, but I recognized most of the terms they used and the concept itself was great even if they dragged some bits out too long. But ya, Randy's bits made me howl...that's just the kind of ridiculously crude insanity I love from South Park. I especially loved the line from the boys after his final act of "where do we go from here?".

Was expecting a death, but oh well, they have two episodes left this season.

You know there wasn't a death last season, and that the only one in season 16 was the live action one, right? (Also , some research shows there wasn't one in season 12 either.) I'm not saying they won't do one, but I definitely wouldn't hold your breath for it. And I mean, if the episodes are funny, does it really matter if they do one or not? I'm pretty sure they stopped doing them specifically to avoid having them just be fanservice, and by this point I imagine they'd have trouble coming up with a unique enough idea for a death to justify it to themselves.
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« Reply #607 on: 11-20-2014 20:08 »
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You know there wasn't a death last season

Kenny dies in "Titties and Dragons", but is revived almost immediately. That still counts.

the only one in season 16 was the live action one, right?

That counts.

and by this point I imagine they'd have trouble coming up with a unique enough idea for a death to justify it to themselves.

They went the entire 15th season without killing Kenny up until (literally) the last minute, when a giant reptilian bird bursts through the school ceiling and kills Kenny for no reason. tongue

Currently season 12 is the only season without a Kenny death, but there are other seasons where his death has been shown in a different format or has not affected Kenny directly (such as "The Biggest Douche in the Universe", "Make Love, Not Warcraft", "I Should Have Never Gone Ziplining" and "Titties and Dragons").
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« Reply #608 on: 11-20-2014 20:58 »
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They went the entire 15th season without killing Kenny up until (literally) the last minute, when a giant reptilian bird bursts through the school ceiling and kills Kenny for no reason.

True, though that episode was not only all about Kenny but also had to do with his Mysterion personality, which references the idea that Kenny always comes back to life. So it wasn't completely out of nowhere.

None of that really matters though. My main point is I see no reason to be disappointed if there isn't a Kenny death if the episodes are funny otherwise. Unless it's done in an extremely clever way, just seeing him die at this point has kind of lost its impact beyond being able to go "Oh lol remember when that happened in the show all the time?".

Although I will admit that Stan puking on Wendy at the end of The List worked for exactly that reason due to it not having happened in so long.
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« Reply #609 on: 11-20-2014 22:27 »
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None of that really matters though. My main point is I see no reason to be disappointed if there isn't a Kenny death if the episodes are funny otherwise..

I understand what you mean, it won't bother me at all if we don't get one, it isn't something that I watch South Park for alone, but I do enjoy to see what crazy death they come up with for him every so often.

Unless it's done in an extremely clever way, just seeing him die at this point has kind of lost its impact beyond being able to go "Oh lol remember when that happened in the show all the time?".

His death in "The List" is hilarious, probably one of the funniest ones they've ever done, and that was long-after they stopped making it a regular thing.

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Thinking about it now, they made an entire trilogy that focuses largely on Kenny's ability to die and be reborn repeatedly just 4 years ago, so I guess they do like to still give it some attention every once in a while.
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« Reply #610 on: 11-21-2014 00:20 »

Yeah, I'd be fine if they stopped doing that all together
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« Reply #611 on: 11-21-2014 00:37 »

Yeah, I'd be fine if they stopped doing that all together

Really? It's kind of a staple of the show, even if it is much less frequent now.

Would it not bother you if Professor Farnsworth stopped saying "Good news, everyone!"?
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« Reply #612 on: 11-21-2014 01:09 »

If the show was still on, I wouldn't mind. I mean, the occasional Kenny death is a nice throwback, but it hasn't been essential in a very long time
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« Reply #613 on: 11-21-2014 01:32 »

I wouldn't really mind if the Professor stopped using that line. Once a joke reaches the point that you have to start making fun of it to keep it fresh, there's only so many times you can draw from that well before it's best to stop using the joke altogether, unless you have a great idea for it. Even Fry commenting about how "that means it's bad" in Simpsorama fell flat because that same joke had already been made in Futurama numerous times in more clever ways.
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« Reply #614 on: 11-21-2014 02:15 »

Currently season 12 is the only season without a Kenny death, but there are other seasons where his death has been shown in a different format or has not affected Kenny directly (such as "The Biggest Douche in the Universe")

And season 6, for that matter. The Biggest Douche in the universe is part of a story arc and any mentions of his "death" this season refer specifically to a season 5 episode, so it doesn't count.

I am also not entirely bothered one way or the other whether or not Kenny dies anymore.
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« Reply #615 on: 11-21-2014 11:23 »
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Well, if you want to get really technical, at the end of "The Biggest Douche in the Universe", Kenny's soul possesses Rob Schneider's body and at the end of that "trailer", Rob Schneider/Kenny dies. I'd say that counts.

But I'm also on the side that I really couldn't care less if they kill him or not. I only found Kenny's deaths funny once they started playing with the joke in the first place, like Josh was talking about, and I'd rather they didn't force that sort of thing for the sake of it.
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« Reply #616 on: 11-21-2014 12:18 »

Well, if you want to get really technical, at the end of "The Biggest Douche in the Universe", Kenny's soul possesses Rob Schneider's body and at the end of that "trailer", Rob Schneider/Kenny dies. I'd say that counts.

Oh yeah, forgot about that bit. Whoops. tongue

And yeah, I don't mind when Kenny deaths happen, but I much prefer when it's organic to the plot rather than "nostalgia for nostalgia's sake."
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« Reply #617 on: 12-01-2014 14:23 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2014 14:28 »

Episode 9:

#REHASH


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Unexpected return of continuity! big grin
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #618 on: 12-01-2014 16:44 »

Hmm, cool. It seems like they're building to something with the finale.
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« Reply #619 on: 12-02-2014 01:32 »

Awesome. I'm already stoked for this episode.
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« Reply #620 on: 12-03-2014 16:23 »

In case you didn't hear already, PewDiePie is going to be in tonight's episode:



Sigh, I really can't stand the guy. I was hoping that the episode would be ripping into people like him, based on the plot synopsis and the preview clip below.



Oh well, PewDiePie did say in his video he doesn't know exactly what's going to happen in the episode, they could be ripping into him for all we know, but we'll see.
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« Reply #621 on: 12-04-2014 01:09 »

I have no idea who that is.
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« Reply #622 on: 12-04-2014 14:33 »

Holy crap. So much going on in that episode. Unexpected 2-parter finale, too! big grin

I'm glad the show did kind of rip into PewDiePie and all let's-players, I fucking hate that shit. The stuff with Cartman becoming the comment box was funny, though.

I'm most interested in what Michael Jackson wants in South Park, will it be a big callback to "The Jeffersons" or "Dead Celebrities" or something else?
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« Reply #623 on: 12-04-2014 14:50 »

I agree with pretty much everything you just said.

I was surprised to see quite a negative reaction to the episode elsewhere online as I honestly think it was possibly the best of the season so far. I'd have to rewatch "Grounded Vindaloop" first, but it's up there.
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« Reply #624 on: 12-04-2014 15:45 »

Yeah, I thought it was an excellent episode. A little all-over-the-place, but in a really, really good way. It's nice seeing the epic storytelling of their multi-parters combined with the sheer weirdness this season has been going for.

Plus, who couldn't love an episode with the line "Dad, why did you rub your clit on stage?" laff

I'm most interested in what Michael Jackson wants in South Park, will it be a big callback to "The Jeffersons" or "Dead Celebrities" or something else?

I'd imagine it'll tie all the subplots together in some way (it's too specific a callback for Matt and Trey not to have some sort of plan for it all), though I can't quite envision how.
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« Reply #625 on: 12-04-2014 17:10 »

Oh, rehash, I see. The episode did get interesting towards end and was pretty funny, too. A two-parter combining some storylines seems good so far and how they involved current trends is well done (although, I shouldn't be surprised).
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« Reply #626 on: 12-08-2014 14:30 »
« Last Edit on: 12-08-2014 14:33 »

Episode 10:

#HappyHolograms


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Pretty sure this is the first Christmas episode in almost a decade. ("Woodland Critter Christmas" aired on the 15th December 2004.)
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« Reply #627 on: 12-08-2014 15:27 »

Sounds like they're going to be making fun of The Star Wars Holiday Special, no doubt with some episode VII stuff thrown in, though I might be way off base.

And yeah. I was surprised they didn't give us a Christmas episode last year, to be honest, given that season 17 took them to December for the first time in an age, but I suppose the Black Friday trilogy was enough seasonal stuff for them for one year.
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« Reply #628 on: 12-09-2014 06:04 »

I doubt they will ever top Woodland Critter Christmas. It's pretty much a perfect 20 minutes of television.

Anyway, predictions for the season finale? I've got a couple of theories as to how this whole thing might end... It's purely speculation, but I'll add spoiler tags anyway, just in case:

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« Reply #629 on: 12-09-2014 10:04 »

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« Reply #630 on: 12-09-2014 13:23 »

I doubt they will ever top Woodland Critter Christmas. It's pretty much a perfect 20 minutes of television.

Yeah, I agree. "Woodland Critter Christmas" is a strong contender for the best episode of the show.
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« Reply #631 on: 12-09-2014 16:58 »

Anyway, predictions for the season finale? I've got a couple of theories as to how this whole thing might end... It's purely speculation, but I'll add spoiler tags anyway, just in case:


number 2 would be really cool, but number one seems more likely
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« Reply #632 on: 12-11-2014 12:27 »

What a crazy finale. So much was going on! I was constantly stuck between reading the fake tweets on the bottom of the screen and actually watching/listening to the episode. Was there any point to all the continuity in the end? Not really, but I liked it.

Season 18 has been pretty great on the whole, shame we have to wait another 9 months for season 19.
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« Reply #633 on: 12-11-2014 14:41 »

I was constantly stuck between reading the fake tweets on the bottom of the screen and actually watching/listening to the episode.

I think that was why the episode got so fucking crazy. As if Matt & Trey were saying "We don't need to present a coherent storyline when tweets are present because people won't be paying attention anyway," which sort of drives home the very point the episodes were making.

Anyway, I thought it was a great finale, despite a few plot threads that went absolutely nowhere (primarily Sharon sleeping with Tupac, and the stuff involving the Lorde hologram). It was batshit insane, abrasive and pretty much personified "A.D.D. storytelling," and that's exactly what they were going for. The warped logic of Cartman's comment window never failed to me laugh, and I absolutely love watching a show throw all caution to the wind like that.

I am a little saddened by the fact that the continuity didn't pay off all that much, but it didn't bring down the rest of the season for me - I just hope they keep it up next year. Probably the worst thing about the episode was the last minute or so... I am honestly shocked at the idea that so many people can stand this PewDiePie person for more than a few seconds. I think Matt & Trey would've been much better off just going with a parody of him from the start rather than actually getting the guy on the show in any capacity. But, oh well. The Bill Cosby/Kurt Cobain stuff more than made up for it. tongue
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« Reply #634 on: 12-11-2014 15:08 »

I really liked it. Once again, I'm amazed to see the hate it's getting on other parts of the internet. It's nice to be on the positive side of the polarized spectrum for a change.

It's a bit odd that two episodes in such close succession rely so heavily on being a complete mind-fuck, but what are you going to do?

It's a shame that various subplots went nowhere, as Beamer pointed out, but I found it funny and engaging and that's all I need South Park to be.
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« Reply #635 on: 12-11-2014 15:18 »
« Last Edit on: 12-11-2014 15:19 »

I think it would've benefited from being a three parter (or maybe even just one episode if they dropped all the sub-plots and focused on the main story), but in this particular case, the weird, erratic pacing actually worked quite well for the episode and emphasised the point it was trying to make.

All in all, it could have been better, but it was definitely far from disappointing. I'm very happy with this season as a whole, and would say Matt & Trey have well and truly gotten their groove back after their past few seasons (which I still enjoyed for the most part, but there's certainly no denying they were inconsistent as all hell).
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« Reply #636 on: 12-11-2014 18:06 »

It was a crazy episode. The references like the cops vs. black people was good and so was the plot as I wasn't sure where it was going (I didn't even need to be confused as the tweets expressed it for me). I see what they were doing with the ending with PewDiePie, but I really don't care about this particular celebrity, so it was just too positive and unnecessary.
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« Reply #637 on: 12-11-2014 20:00 »

A little too all over the place for me, but I did like the cops thinking the warnings were jokes and Randy's quick confession to Shelly, not bad in all, but maybe trey and Matt could take a break from the 2/3 parters for a while
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« Reply #638 on: 12-11-2014 22:07 »

I think it was probably the best season since 14. Almost every episode was at least good and a few were great.

17 was mostly quite poor despite containing a handful of great episodes and 16 just sucked.
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« Reply #639 on: 12-11-2014 22:19 »

Some of the fake Twitter usernames in the episode had reference to characters & past episodes in them, such as:

@stepOneUnderPants (which is most likely a reference to "Phase 1: Collect Underpants" from "Gnomes")
@ScroatCoat (from "Medicinal Fried Chicken")
@lordyLordeLorde (pretty obvious)
@ShakeWeightFan & @fraichefan ("Crème Fraiche")
@stanzMom & @ShellyzMom
@cheezedOut ("Major Boobage")
@FullBushbro ("The Magic Bush")
@cisginger1 ("The Cissy")
@glutenkillz ("Gluten Free Ebola")
@cockmagic4life ("Cock Magic")
@RMbritches (possibly "You're Getting Old"?)

There were probably more, but that's what I got down.
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