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I think another problem was that Season 12 came after the excellent Season 11, making it hard to top something like the Imaginationland trilogy. Most people such as myself noticed when it first aired in 2008 that the episodes seemed much lazier compared to most episodes before it. I can confidently say Season 12 marked the start of decline for South Park, or perhaps in a better term say it's a whole different era from South Park's golden years.

I felt like season 11 was a pretty noticeable step down from 10, though. I think most people discussing the show at the time felt that it was a step down from previous seasons.

I think the show started to get really hit and miss in season 10. The misses were among some of the show's worst outings and far more noticeable than they'd been in the past because the hits were so effing good and up along the show's very best. Season 11 continued this, but the gap between episodes grew - I'd say that there were more misses than in 10.

The Imaginationland trilogy is indeed excellent, though I've stopped associating it as a part of season 11 since the separate DVD release... Which I really shouldn't do, but it's not exactly conscious on my part.

But the trilogy are included on the season 11 DVD, too. It's not some Family Guy situation where they're screwing the fans with the DVD releases - well, it is if you include the region 2 release of season 14.

As for the end of the golden years, what about season 13? That was pretty damn great... The Coon, Margaritaville, Fishsticks, Fatbeard, Butters' Bottom Bitch, WTF, Whale Whores and Dances With Smurfs, to name a few. That is a pretty solid selection right there.

Meh. It was a step up from 12, but I'd say it suffered from a similar lack of real stand-out episodes to most of the newish seasons. "Fishsticks" was great, but it wouldn't get close to being one of the show's best episodes ever. "The Coon" and "Margaritaville" were also very good, but after that, I'd say almost all of the episodes were just solid. There weren't enough highs in the season for my liking.

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But the trilogy are included on the season 11 DVD, too.

I know, but since I have both DVDs, I usually just put on the Imaginationland DVD when I want to watch it, so I sometimes forget which season it was originally on.

[Reply #242 on:]

WWZ was the shit. 

[Reply #243 on:]

Press release for this week's episode:

NEW YORK, October 14, 2013 - The Goth kids team up with their sworn enemies in an all-new episode of "South Park" titled "Goth Kids 3: Dawn of the Posers," premiering Wednesday, October 16 at 10:00 p.m. ET/PT on Comedy Central.

One of the Goth kids has been sent to a camp for troubled children. When she returns, her friends find her changed in a disturbing way. With their very existence threatened, the Goths have to do something drastic. They are forced to ask the Vamp kids for help.

Hmmm... I love the goth kids, though I do also think they've gotten less funny with each additional appearance, so (as per usual), this could go either way. Still, looking forward to it.

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Doesn't sound particularly interesting, but I do like the goth kids too, in theory, so we'll see...

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I've been expecting a government shutdown episode (while secretly hoping for a Breaking Bad parody... Hey, there's still a slim chance so long as Hader's still on the writing staff!), so this announcement is a surprise, at the very least.

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Why does Hader make a Breaking Bad parody more likely?

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He's a fan, he was even on Talking Bad at one point... Probably just wishful thinking on my part, though.

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The Goth Kids were one of the best things about the episode "Raisins", so we'll see...

EDIT - I'll probably rewatch Season 16 again this week as I've only seen all of them once.

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He's a fan, he was even on Talking Bad at one point... Probably just wishful thinking on my part, though.

That would be cool, but I'm not sure if they'd do it.

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Cool; I'd certainly love a Breaking Bad episode. I'm really surprised at the lack of flat-out Breaking Bad episodes of animated shows so far. I expected Family Guy would have gone there by now, but instead, they just did a meth-episode that was pretty much devoid of Breaking Bad.

And The Simpsons did a crappy homage to it in one of their openings or something, but I don't care because fuck The Simpsons.

[Reply #251 on:]

Preview clip for the new ep:



And another, shorter one:

[Reply #252 on:]

*bump*

They lost all power at the studio where they make the show last night and were unable to finish this week's episode, so it'll be airing next week (23rd October) instead.

More info here.

[Reply #253 on:]

I wasn't really looking forward to this episode, but this still kind of sucks.

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Danny beat me to this story by 15 minutes. 

[Reply #255 on:]

kind of surprised this sort of thing hasn't happened before

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To add to my disappointment that tonight's South Park episode has been delayed, I just found out there will not be a new episode of The Middle tonight, either. Instead, there will be a Toy Story television special. *sigh*

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To add to my disappointment that tonight's South Park episode has been delayed, I just found out there will not be a new episode of The Middle tonight, either. Instead, there will be a Toy Story television special. *sigh*

Shame on you, Television. Shame on you.

[Reply #258 on:]

kind of surprised this sort of thing hasn't happened before

So were Matt and Trey.

[Reply #259 on:]

Maybe this was God's way of telling them to get their shit together

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So, does this mean that the season is going to end a week later than planned?

Or are they just going to produce 9 episodes for season 17 now, instead?

Or will we be getting 2 episodes next week?

Or are they going to spend all of this extra time making this the first really great episode in a long while?

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They're going to air the episode next week, with the Season ending a week later than normal (December 4th).

They'll probably just do a little of the next episode early, since this episode was basically completed save for some animation rendering. The most I could really see added to it is a joke about the power outage they had.

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So, does this mean that the season is going to end a week later than planned?

Or are they just going to produce 9 episodes for season 17 now, instead?

I assume we'll still get 10 since they're contracted for it. Unless they extend one of their episodes this season to an hour or air two on one night like you said. Though, season 8 (I think) had an episode dropped from its order pretty late in the game, so who knows.

kind of surprised this sort of thing hasn't happened before

It almost happened when they decided not to go ahead with their second Lemmiwinks episode (the concept for which was later turned into the stellar Woodland Critter Christmas), but somehow they were able to whip up Awesome-O in two days instead.

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I'm suprised they're able to make episodes that quickly.

[Reply #264 on:]

Judging by the animation, I'm not.

[Reply #265 on:]

Judging by the animation, I'm not.

Right, but the amount of thought it takes to make one joke is more complicated than one might think, and then 30 minutes of jokes, plus voice recording, plus animation? That's a lot.

[Reply #266 on:]

It's not like Matt and Trey do every aspect of it themselves, they do have teams of people working on this stuff.

And the animation has only gotten better and better over the years.

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Judging by the animation, I'm not.

Right, but the amount of thought it takes to make one joke is more complicated than one might think, and then 30 minutes of jokes, plus voice recording, plus animation? That's a lot.

According to the commentaries, they work better under pressure, so they usually wait until the weekend before the episode airs to start working on it.

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Somehow I'm guessing they'll throw a power outage joke into this episode

[Reply #269 on:]

Maybe even just in a fake announcement before the episode like they did with Awesome-O.

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I actually think South Park is getting better. Season 13 was great, from what I've seen of season 14 is okay, and season 16....was pretty crappy apart from " Raising the Bar" and one or two others. I hope I don't jinx it, but this season has been really good for me. Usually when I sit down to watch South Park, I need to laugh. I watch it a lot when I'm pissed off or sad, and season 16 did very little to help. But season 17 is modern, thought-out, and yes, I'll say it, pretty damn funny. Maybe this season will turn everything around.

I know it's not gonna happen, but I really want to see a Terrence and Philip episode this season.

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A Terrance and Philip episode is more likely that a Goth kids episode and we're getting that.

[Reply #272 on:]

I know it's not gonna happen, but I really want to see a Terrence and Philip episode this season.

October 23, 2013

And now, the moment you've all been waiting for. Goth Kids 3...will not be shown tonight. Instead, there is a sequel to "Terrance and Phillip in Not Without My Anus".

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season 16....was pretty crappy apart from " Raising the Bar" and one or two others.

I don't recall Raising the Bar actually receiving all that much praise until after it won the Emmy... I thought it was one of the more mediocre episodes of last season. A few really great ideas but the execution was a little off to me.

Though yes, I would LOVE another Terrance and Phillip episode.

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I always felt that it was one of the season's better efforts. I think it was generally considered to be one of the stronger ones, although I don't recall many people raving about it.

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I'm probably going to get murdered on here after posting this like the Brian & Stewie episode, but after rewatching Season 16 this week I Should Have Never Gone Ziplining was by far my favourite episode of that season. It was way more over the top than I remember it being, but it made me laugh pretty much the whole way through and had that awesome live action sequence at the end which I totally forgot about. It also gets bonus points for being one of the few modern South Park episodes that focuses entirely on the four main boys. 10/10

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I'm probably going to get murdered on here after posting this like the Brian & Stewie episode

I'm certainly not gonna murder you for liking I Should Have Never Gone Ziplining, I thought it was utterly hilarious. Definitely one of my favourites for season 16.

I might murder you for watching Family Guy, though.

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I've probably seen 4/5 South Park episodes, and I always hear about " I Shouldn't Have Gone Ziplining," so I think I'll download it.

I have a question. What was the first episode Randy was ever in?

[Reply #278 on:]

I have a question. What was the first episode Randy was ever in?

Volcano from Season 1 I think.

[Reply #279 on:]

You are correct.