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cartoonlover27

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« Reply #640 on: 10-19-2013 03:52 »

Oh yeah that one with Lady Gaga was terrible!

It was basically the single dumbest thing I ever watched. Ever. Except maybe the 1945 movie version of, " And Then There Were None."
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #641 on: 10-19-2013 06:31 »

Oh yeah that one with Lady Gaga was terrible!

Yeah, I turned off my TV about five minutes into the episode.
Beamer

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« Reply #642 on: 10-19-2013 08:40 »

Bottom 10:
10. "Whiskey Business"
9. "The Fabulous Faker Boy"
8. "Funeral for a Fiend"
7. "You Kent Always Say What You Want"
6. "Lisa Goes Gaga"
5. "The Ned-liest Catch"
4. "Dude, Where's My Ranch?"
3. "Treehouse of Horror XIX"
2. "The Italian Bob"
1. "E Pluribus Wiggum"

E. Pluribus Wiggum was indeed a disaster, but it still had more laughs than the average post-season 16 episode. It's a shame too, since the premise actually had some potential (the idea that all the townspeople would be SO disillusioned by Springfield's political system that enough people would vote for a joke candidate who would up winning), but the execution was sloppy as hell and the episode had no fucking structure whatsoever. Still, I wouldn't personally put it in my bottom 10.

I also thought You Kent Always Say What You Want was one of the better post-season 16 episodes. Again, the execution was off, but as far as The Simpsons' more recent satirical episodes go, it wasn't completely horrible.

And yes, the Lady Gaga one was fucking atrocious.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #643 on: 10-19-2013 17:00 »

I remember the ending being a big part of why I didn't like "E Pluribus Wiggum" - though, to be honest, I can't remember much about the episode other than hating it, so I'm not particularly able to explain my opinion beyond that. It's been too long since I saw it.

It was basically the single dumbest thing I ever watched. Ever. Except maybe the 1945 movie version of, " And Then There Were None."
And Then There Were None is a great film. What are you talking about?
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #644 on: 10-19-2013 17:02 »

E. Pluribus Wiggum was indeed a disaster, but it still had more laughs than the average post-season 16 episode. It's a shame too, since the premise actually had some potential (the idea that all the townspeople would be SO disillusioned by Springfield's political system that enough people would vote for a joke candidate who would up winning), but the execution was sloppy as hell and the episode had no fucking structure whatsoever. Still, I wouldn't personally put it in my bottom 10.

I agree. The execution of "E Pluribus Wiggum" sullied its opportunity to be a decent post-classic episode.
stum

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« Reply #645 on: 10-19-2013 17:06 »

What do you guys think of Dead Homers?

They're alright generally, but I hate the term "Zombie Simpsons".
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #646 on: 10-19-2013 17:08 »

You mean Dead Homer Society? I don't think I've looked at that website. Also, I think "Zombie Simpsons" describes the modern seasons perfectly.
stum

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« Reply #647 on: 10-19-2013 17:11 »

Maybe so, but whenever I see the term I picture someone screaming it in my ear. Bleh.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #648 on: 10-19-2013 17:15 »

Um...okay, then. confused
AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #649 on: 10-19-2013 17:19 »
« Last Edit on: 10-19-2013 19:24 »

The Frying Game was indeed the pinpoint episode of The Simpsons for me where I stopped watching the show on a regular basis. What I've done is pretty much split the series into three different eras. Season 1-10 as classic Simpsons, Season 11 and 12 as hybrid Simpsons, and Season 13-present as modern Simpsons. If I recall correctly, Season 12 has Trilogy of Error, the last truly excellent episode of The Simpsons for me. Everything after that, all the decent and sucky episodes are pretty much on a different standard to the old episodes.

EDIT - What I mean is like a 10/10 episode in the modern era of The Simpsons would only probably score an 8/10 for me if it were marked the same standard as the classic era.
stum

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« Reply #650 on: 10-19-2013 19:10 »
« Last Edit on: 10-19-2013 19:17 »

Edited
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #651 on: 10-19-2013 20:56 »

Edited

Okay then.....

I think the first episode is probably still my favorite that I've seen so far.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #652 on: 10-19-2013 21:09 »

Really? How many classic era episodes have you seen?
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #653 on: 10-19-2013 21:17 »

Really? How many classic era episodes have you seen?

I've seen quite a few, but I can't remember the names because it's been a while.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #654 on: 10-19-2013 21:42 »

If I recall correctly, Season 12 has Trilogy of Error, the last truly excellent episode of The Simpsons for me. Everything after that, all the decent and sucky episodes are pretty much on a different standard to the old episodes.

I completely agree. "Trilogy of Error" is the last episode of the show that I'd give an 8/10 or higher. In the thirteen seasons since, there have only been about 7 episodes that I'd give a 7/10 and I'm always really surprised when they pop up. "Holidays of Future Passed" was the last one of those.

I'm going to re-visit those episodes as part of my rewatching lots of the show at the minute, and I wouldn't be surprised if I bump most of them down to much lower scores. I rated a lot of the "Treehouse of Horror" episodes when I was still quite young and struggling to comprehend the concept of a "Treehouse of Horror" episode that wasn't amazing, so I feel like I might've lied to myself a bit.

Okay then.....
I think the first episode is probably still my favorite that I've seen so far.

"Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire"? Really? I mean, fair enough, but I struggle to understand how someone could enjoy seasons 1-2 on the same level as the show's golden years. And I wouldn't even call "Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire" one of the first season's highlights, personally. Fair enough, though. To each their own.
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #655 on: 10-19-2013 23:07 »

^ So far it's my favorite. The only seasons I've seen all of are thirteen and twenty four.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #656 on: 10-19-2013 23:17 »

Those are the only two seasons you've seen all the way through? Man, no wonder 'Roasting on an Open Fire' is your favorite... hmpf

You should watch the classic seasons eventually. You'll find that there are plenty of episodes in those seasons that are much better than the ones you've seen so far.
AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #657 on: 10-19-2013 23:38 »
« Last Edit on: 10-20-2013 01:57 »

Here's my list of favourite Simpsons episodes up to the last season I own on DVD.

Season 1

Worst: Moaning Lisa - 7/10

Best:
5. Bart the General - 9/10
4. The Crepes of Wrath  - 9/10
3. Some Enchanted Evening - 9/10
2. Krusty Gets Busted - 9/10
1. Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire - 9/10


Season 2

Worst: Dancin' Homer - 6/10

Best:
5. Bart the Daredevil - 9/10
4. The Way We Was - 9/10
3. Treehouse of Horror - 9/10
2. Three Men and a Comic Book - 10/10
1. Bart Gets an F - 10/10


Season 3

Worst: Homer Alone - 8/10

Best:
5. Treehouse of Horror II - 10/10
4. Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwork - 10/10
3. Black Widower - 10/10
2. Radio Bart - 10/10
1. Homer at the Bat - 10/10


Season 4

Worst: So It's Come to This: A Simpsons Clip Show - 5/10

Best:
5. Duffless - 10/10
4. Treehouse of Horror III - 10/10
3. Selma's Choice - 10/10
2. Marge vs. The Monorail - 10/10
1. Lisa's First Word - 10/10


Season 5

Worst: Secrets of a Successful Marriage - 8/10

Best:
5. Bart Gets an Elephant - 10/10
4. Treehouse of Horror IV - 10/10
3. Boy-Scouts 'n the Hood - 10/10
2. Cape Feare - 10/10
1. Homer Loves Flanders - 10/10


Season 6

Worst: Another Simpsons Clip Show - 4/10

Best:
5. Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part One) - 10/10
4. Itchy & Scratchy Land - 10/10
3. Homer Badman - 10/10
2. Treehouse of Horror V - 10/10
1. Lisa on Ice - 10/10


Season 7

Worst: Scenes from the Class Struggle in Springfield - 7/10

Best:
5. Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part Two) - 10/10
4. Bart Sells His Soul - 10/10
3. Homer the Smithers - 10/10
2. Treehouse of Horror VI - 10/10
1. Mother Simpson - 10/10


Season 8

Worst: The Twisted World of Marge Simpson - 7/10

Best:
5. The Springfield Files - 10/10
4. The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show - 10/10
3. Brother From Another Series - 10/10
2. You Only Move Twice - 10/10
1. Homer's Enemy - 10/10


Season 9

Worst: All Singing, All Dancing - 2/10

Best:
5. Miracle on Evergreen Terrace - 10/10
4. King of the Hill - 10/10
3. Trash of the Titans - 10/10
2. The City of New York vs Homer Simpson - 10/10
1. The Cartridge Family - 10/10


Season 10

Worst: When You Dish Upon a Star - 7/10

Best:
5. Wild Barts Can't Be Broken - 10/10
4. Viva Ned Flanders - 10/10
3. Homer to the Max - 10/10
2. Mayored to the Mob - 10/10
1. Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo - 10/10


Season 11

Worst: Saddlesore Galactica - 1/10

Best:
5. Guess Who's Coming to Criticize Dinner? - 8/10
4. Grift of the Magi - 9/10
3. Bart to the Future - 9/10
2. Treehouse of Horror X - 9/10
1. Behind the Laughter - 10/10


Season 12

Worst: The Computer Wore Menace Shoes - 3/10

Best:
5. A Tale of Two Springfields - 8/10
4. HOMR - 9/10
3. Worst Episode Ever - 9/10
2. Skinner's Sense of Snow - 9/10
1. Trilogy of Error - 10/10
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #658 on: 10-19-2013 23:45 »

Okay then.....
I think the first episode is probably still my favorite that I've seen so far.

"Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire"? Really? I mean, fair enough, but I struggle to understand how someone could enjoy seasons 1-2 on the same level as the show's golden years. And I wouldn't even call "Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire" one of the first season's highlights, personally. Fair enough, though. To each their own.

Those are the only two seasons you've seen all the way through? Man, no wonder 'Roasting on an Open Fire' is your favorite... hmpf

You should watch the classic seasons eventually. You'll find that there are plenty of episodes in those seasons that are much better than the ones you've seen so far.

I agree. Cartoonlover, you should definitely watch the rest of Seasons 1-10. Trust me, "Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire" will no longer be your favorite after you watch the rest of those seasons. I'm not saying it's a bad episode, but by Classic Simpsons standards, it's mediocre.
AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #659 on: 10-20-2013 03:04 »
« Last Edit on: 10-20-2013 03:06 »

Haha! I just watched Homer vs. Dignity on the Season 12 DVD. Now I remember why many fans called this the very episode where The Simpsons "Jumped the Shark" in. Also, what's with all the hate for Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire? It was a really good first episode to launch the series off with, despite lacking a bit in laughs but it introduced everything well.
ShinyMetal***

Professor
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« Reply #660 on: 10-20-2013 03:05 »

 It was a good first episode.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #661 on: 10-20-2013 03:07 »
« Last Edit on: 10-20-2013 03:12 »

What's with all the hate for Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire? It was a really good first episode to launch the series off with, despite lacking a bit in laughs but it introduced everything well.

I don't think it's a bad episode, but it's definitely not on par with Golden Age Simpsons.

Honestly, I would rather Some Enchanted Evening had been the first episode, as it was originally planned as such. It did a better job introducing the characters, in my opinion.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #662 on: 10-20-2013 03:42 »

I loved 'Open Fire', but as LMP said, it's not quite as good as further episodes. It's like that for pretty much every series, really.

I, too, think 'Enchanted Evening' should've been the Pilot; it introduced the main characters well, and made it obvious that The Simpsons is, for the most part, not for kids. However, their (forced) decision to make 'Open Fire' the pilot was a fine choice, as well, as it not only introduced the main family, but it also introduced us to many recurring characters such as Moe, Barney, and Flanders.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #663 on: 10-20-2013 03:45 »

Yeah, "Open Fire" also did a splendid job of introducing the characters. Although I thought "Enchanted Evening" featured Moe and Barney as well?
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #664 on: 10-20-2013 03:46 »

No one was "hating on" "Open Fire" - it's just pretty insane to think of it as anything close to being the show's best episode.

Like I said, I wouldn't even call it a highlight of season 1.
Beamer

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« Reply #665 on: 10-20-2013 06:44 »

Open Fire is a perfectly cromulent pilot, but yeah, cartoonlover, I would urge you to watch all of seasons 3-9 before you make such a call. smile
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #666 on: 10-20-2013 13:56 »

Open Fire is a perfectly cromulent pilot, but yeah, cartoonlover, I would urge you to watch all of seasons 3-9 before you make such a call. smile

I will. It's hard to find the earlier seasons, though. I'll probably end up downloading them.
Beamer

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« Reply #667 on: 10-20-2013 14:05 »

The dvds are generally pretty cheap. I'm not going to advocate for downloading in public, but I'd certainly recommend avoid the syndicated versions at all costs, from what I've heard about just how much gets cut in the US.
AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #668 on: 10-20-2013 14:49 »

The Simpsons Season 3-8 = Futurama Season 1-4
The Simpsons Season 9-10 = Futurama Season 6
The Simpsons Season 11-12 = Futurama Season 7
Lost My Phone

Professor
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« Reply #669 on: 10-20-2013 15:10 »

Open Fire is a perfectly cromulent pilot, but yeah, cartoonlover, I would urge you to watch all of seasons 3-9 before you make such a call. smile

I will. It's hard to find the earlier seasons, though. I'll probably end up downloading them.

There's a website where you can watch all episodes of The Simpsons. Look it up (I'd tell you the name of it, but I think that might be against the rules).
cartoonlover27

Professor
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« Reply #670 on: 10-20-2013 15:14 »

^ It's cool- I have apps I could use to do it now!
Lost My Phone

Professor
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« Reply #671 on: 10-20-2013 15:16 »

Do you mean a smartphone app?
cartoonlover27

Professor
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« Reply #672 on: 10-20-2013 15:21 »

Do you mean a smartphone app?

iPod touch app.
Beamer

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« Reply #673 on: 10-20-2013 15:21 »

She means ABS. She's been working out at one of those new gyms where they project Simpsons episodes on your abdomen.
Lost My Phone

Professor
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« Reply #674 on: 10-20-2013 15:23 »

Do you mean a smartphone app?

iPod touch app.

Do you have to pay for it?
cartoonlover27

Professor
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« Reply #675 on: 10-20-2013 15:24 »

Do you mean a smartphone app?

iPod touch app.

Do you have to pay for it?

For the full version, yes. I just use the free-non full version and it works great. And you could do other shows, too.
stum

Starship Captain
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« Reply #676 on: 10-20-2013 15:25 »

The Simpsons Season 3-8 = Futurama Season 1-4
The Simpsons Season 9-10 = Futurama Season 6
The Simpsons Season 11-12 = Futurama Season 7

What about 1 and 2?
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #677 on: 10-20-2013 15:26 »

Seasons 1 and 2 are pre-Golden Age Simpsons. They're not generally held with high regard.
stum

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« Reply #678 on: 10-20-2013 15:27 »

Yes, they are.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #679 on: 10-20-2013 15:28 »

Since when? Most people will tell you that the classic years are Seasons 3-9. I'm sorry to break it to you, but Seasons 1 and 2 really don't compare to 3-9.
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