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LobsterMooch
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« on: 07-28-2011 16:47 »
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 no no
DannyJC13

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« Reply #1 on: 07-28-2011 16:50 »

I thought MTV was filled with those Super Sweet 16 shows and Pimp My Ride and Cribs these days... Never watched it.
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #2 on: 07-28-2011 16:56 »
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 eek
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #3 on: 07-28-2011 16:56 »

If would like to put up your favorite MTV video.

What makes a video an MTV video? Is it if it was played on MTV? Because I honestly wouldn’t know hmpf...

I thought MTV was filled with those Super Sweet 16 shows and Pimp My Ride and Cribs these days... Never watched it.

I remember watching Pimp My Ride, it just wasn't the same when they did it in the UK...
SpaceMaN

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« Reply #4 on: 07-28-2011 19:03 »

Danny's response is why I stopped watching MTV around 1993, when it started getting bad.  (Beavis and Butthead, anyone?)  I do remember as a kid though, my parents would put it on MTV and we'd watch all day, and sing and dance while doing chores or whatever.  I do recall a few videos, Thriller aside, that were pretty good.  I'll have to hunt down a couple.
Morgan_G19

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« Reply #5 on: 07-29-2011 03:17 »

I still watch MTV from time to time but only when they are showing music videos. I love it when they have a whole hour with nothing but awesome rock videos from the late 80s and early 90s. Sparklee and I would be glued to the tv and reminisce about our yesteryears.

That was an awesome date night and with lots and lots of ice-cream love
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« Reply #6 on: 07-29-2011 08:38 »

Don't give a shit with MTV. It's all reality shit.
Melllvar

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« Reply #7 on: 07-29-2011 12:32 »

I hanker for the days when MTV was music shows, VJ's and videos, I used to love Kristiana Backer and Ray Cokes on MTV Europe.  Occasionally it'd branch out, with Beavis & Butthead, Daria, and The Maxx, which I used to like.  Media saturation of music, youtube, and video only channels like Kerrang, Q and stuff means that MTV just isn't MTV any more, it's no longer relevant. 

It really lost it around the time of The Osbornes and then the game was up. 

Of the newer channels, I actually really like MTVNHD, which shows pretty-much just concerts.  That's what MTV should be all about, and not "My Super Sweet Sixteen", which gives me palpitations just thinking about it.
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« Reply #8 on: 07-29-2011 12:35 »

Of the newer channels, I actually really like MTVNHD, which shows pretty-much just concerts.  That's what MTV should be all about, and not "My Super Sweet Sixteen", which gives me palpitations just thinking about it.

Now that sounds like a chennel worth sticking on in the background for the day when I'm at home and my friends are at V.
Melllvar

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« Reply #9 on: 07-29-2011 12:40 »

These are lean days for myself (not literally, as I'm just as fat as ever).... 

So now that I'm being too austere to go to festivals, I've done "Sofa-Fest" two years in a row....  Where I plunder my concert DVD collection and spend a day watching all my favourite bands live, in the comfort of my own home, without worrying about (a) the extortionate price of refreshments, (b) being too short, and having to squint to see the stage through the myriad flags, and (c) being surrounded by twats.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #10 on: 07-29-2011 12:46 »

I think that's a win over every "real" festival going. Especially when it comes to (c).
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #11 on: 07-29-2011 15:37 »
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 cry
Melllvar

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« Reply #12 on: 07-29-2011 18:28 »

r+b acts like MJ and Prince

What?! Since when were Prince and Michael Jackson R&B acts?

The first black artist to have any airplay on MTV was Herbie Hancock, mainly because the major crop of the music videos were coming from British artists like Duran Duran, this was when music video was in its infancy.  Michael Jackson was able to call the shots on exclusivity the MTV at the height of his musical popularity so much so that MTV's VJ's had to call him the "King Of Pop" on the hour, every hour.

Not, I might add, the King Of R&B......
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #13 on: 08-01-2011 18:55 »
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 roll eyes
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« Reply #14 on: 08-01-2011 20:24 »

I liked MTV back when they actually showed music videos, but I can't imagine why anyone would bother watching it nowadays.

Occasionally it'd branch out, with Beavis & Butthead, Daria, and The Maxx, which I used to like.

I did like some of the cartoons they used to have.  Anyone remember Liquid Television?  Of course you don't.
Melllvar

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« Reply #15 on: 08-01-2011 20:25 »

Liquid television does ring a bell....

You are so full of crap, Herbie Hancock is never mentioned  herehttp://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_was_the_first_black_artist_on_mtv or herehttp://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question13026.html.
I'm sure that you can dig up an article to put me in my place.
When I went to the cd store Prince was always in the R+B section and as I recall Michael was there with the Jackson 5ive before he made the jump to superstardom.
When Prince played all that funk, Where would you place his funk in a record store. Never Pop.

How old are you?  I mean, really....

So the criteria for you pigeonholing any artist into a genre is where they are in the CD Racks at your local store?  Well, I bow to that superior knowledge....  I really do.

I didn't look anything up, nor will I....  I remember from watching a documentary in the early 90's which touched on the infancy of music video, and the rise of MTV, siting Herbie Hancocks video of Rockit as evidence that MTV's early airplay was minorly racist.  His appearance in that video was reduced to appearing in a monitor in the corner of a room.  Put that against all of the output they played from British artists at that time....  It pales in comparison.

If you're looking to have a fact-off with all your many wiki's to back you up, well, you can just go and fact yourself....
SamuelXDiamond

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« Reply #16 on: 08-01-2011 22:24 »

Oh snap! That dude just got fact up!

Danny's response is why I stopped watching MTV around 1993, when it started getting bad.  (Beavis and Butthead, anyone?)

If you're disrespecting Beavis & Butthead, you and I are gonna fight in a field.
SpaceMaN

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« Reply #17 on: 08-01-2011 22:46 »

The show itself aside, that was the beginning of the end for the music in "Music Television."

I did like Remote Control though.
tyraniak

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« Reply #18 on: 08-02-2011 04:54 »

Remote Control and Liquid Televison were good, and I used to love The Sifl and Olly show
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #19 on: 08-02-2011 16:08 »
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 cry
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #20 on: 08-02-2011 17:17 »

Superior knowledge, you are a prat.

Melllvar happens to be one of the most musically knowledgeable people you will ever interact with. laff
Melllvar

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« Reply #21 on: 08-02-2011 17:21 »

Alright, enough already....  I'll agree with you on some aspects, and if you read the meat of stuff I put in my posts you'll see that I was supporting your initial point, aside from the fact that MJ and Prince were R&B acts.... Which'll I'll dispute because I'm not going by where some record store urchin puts the CDs and I take issue with what is labelled R&B in general, because it's just NOT R&B......

Yes, I'm a bigot.

Genres are banded around like confetti nowadays when actually there's no shame in being regarded as a pop act...

...in fact, you hit the nail on the head with saying that Led Zep were Blues, they were!  Supercharged Rhythm & Blues (R&B, hey!) is what they were touted as when they came out, heavy metal came later....  

Enough now.

Oh, and Remote Control was much suckier in the UK, as they had it presented by Tony Wilson, and it was rubbish....  

What were the name of the two sock puppets who had their own show on MTV Europe, was on around the time of Alternative Nation... which was a great show.
Nutmeg1729

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« Reply #22 on: 08-02-2011 17:23 »

He insulted Melll? Get him!

Xanfor

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« Reply #23 on: 08-02-2011 17:25 »

I don't care who did it, you're gonna die, Shlongbottom! mad
Melllvar

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« Reply #24 on: 08-02-2011 17:26 »

Oh he's fine....  I've been called worse.  Prat is mild in comparison.  He does have much to learn though.... wink laff
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #25 on: 08-02-2011 17:43 »
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 cry
Melllvar

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« Reply #26 on: 08-03-2011 20:07 »

I play drums in a power pop band and I'm rather fond of the early 80's power pop, we play covers by The Rubinoos, so it's all gravy....
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« Reply #27 on: 08-03-2011 21:07 »

Oh, and Remote Control was much suckier in the UK, as they had it presented by Tony Wilson, and it was rubbish.... 

Every time someone mentions Remote Control in this thread, I get the Beastie Boys song in my head. REmoteCONtrol.

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What were the name of the two sock puppets who had their own show on MTV Europe, was on around the time of Alternative Nation... which was a great show.

Sifl & Olly!
Melllvar

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« Reply #28 on: 08-04-2011 08:53 »

There....  Sifl & Olly!  Of course it was.  Delightfully odd they were too.

See, back in the day, MTV did have some good original shows and tempered them with videos, VJs and music news....  It's what it should go back to.

I still have a VHS tape with MTV's Rock Am Ring from 1994 on it (Pablo Honey era Radiohead, playing "Creep", as well as Rage Against The Machine, Therapy?, and Clawfinger), I should dig that out, along with MTV's Headbangers Ball from Metallica's 1993 gig at Milton Keynes, I still have that too.
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« Reply #29 on: 08-04-2011 11:01 »

Don't give a shit with MTV. It's all reality shit.
I thought you liked Big Brother...? confused Or maybe you don't anymore.

Everyone, I watch Jersey Shore...please don't stone me.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #30 on: 08-04-2011 11:17 »

please don't stone me.

Have you been saying Jehovah?
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« Reply #31 on: 08-04-2011 12:40 »

* Tweek throws stones at TNUK! tongue

I never watched MTV as I couldn't receive it; I watched a couple of their programmes on other channels though; I thought Daria was great and enjoyed Beavis and Butthead; mainly in the parts where they weren't just critiquing some music that I didn't like anyway.
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #32 on: 08-04-2011 14:50 »
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 cool
Melllvar

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« Reply #33 on: 08-04-2011 15:48 »

I never watched MTV as I couldn't receive it; I watched a couple of their programmes on other channels though; I thought Daria was great and enjoyed Beavis and Butthead; mainly in the parts where they weren't just critiquing some music that I didn't like anyway.

I have all of Daria, including the two tv movies, and a nine-disk box set of Beavis & Butthead.

My favourite part of B&B was the following exchange when watching a particularly racey Vanessa Williams video.

Butthead: "Whoa.... this, is the greatest video I've ever seen in my life."

Beavis: "Yeah, yeah, if she were naked, I'd buy the album....."


Still makes me laugh.  That and anytime Beavis sang "Push The Little Daisies" by Ween.
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« Reply #34 on: 08-04-2011 16:45 »

Everyone, I watch Jersey Shore...please don't stone me.

If you have a Nielsen box, then yes, I WILL hurt you for watching Jersey Shore.

If not, I'm still disappointed, but at least you're not helping their ratings.
Melllvar

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« Reply #35 on: 08-08-2011 19:02 »

I still have a VHS tape with MTV's Rock Am Ring from 1994 on it (Pablo Honey era Radiohead, playing "Creep", as well as Rage Against The Machine, Therapy?, and Clawfinger), I should dig that out....

Which I did, some good stuff on there and some rubbish.  Clawfinger have dated horribly, and there's Siamese Dream-era Smashing Pumpkins (two tracks, "Disarm" and "Geek"), Aerosmith, Peter Gabriel, RATM, Therapy? (who're fuckin' awesome, I forgot how good they were), Crowded House, Ritchie Havens (who?), Nina Hagen being utterly barking mad, presented in part by VJ's Lisa I'Anson and some German guy......  I like Rock Am Ring now, where they show the whole bands' set....

It's also worth the tape alone to spin back and look at the adverts, anglo-german rave CDs on offer, and a Summer Of Festivals (all headlined by Peter Gabriel and Aerosmith!).  It's a keeper.
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« Reply #36 on: 08-08-2011 19:30 »

At one time I thought that Nina Blackwood was the sexiest woman on Earth. 

I started watching MTV in 1982 and would only stay at Motels that carried MTV.  Between videos by Fleetwood Mac, Pat Benatar, The Fixx, Van Halen, The Motels and many more early 80's videos, I'd watch the channel for hours, hoping to hear Nina's raspy voice.

Then I met her in person in Boulder in 2002.  Let's just say the years haven't been kind to her.

But she did have a nice spread (pun intended) in Playboy Magazine back in 1980...

Melllvar

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« Reply #37 on: 08-08-2011 23:17 »

A couple of youtubes from Rock AM Ring 1994:

Radiohead - "Creep"

Smashing Pumpkins - "Today"

Therapy? - "Die Laughing" and "Trigger Inside"

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« Reply #38 on: 08-08-2011 23:28 »

Back when Rock am Ring wasn't full of crap. I was there in 2003 and there was already a lot of shit bands.
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #39 on: 08-09-2011 15:18 »
« Last Edit on: 11-10-2011 16:31 »

 big grin
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