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ShepherdofShark
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« Reply #206 on: 05-07-2014 22:50 »
« Last Edit on: 05-07-2014 22:51 »
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Remember, Faze. The moment you start to like a character, that's when the sand in their hourglass begins to flow. By the end of the books, I fully expect 90% of the cast to have died.
This is sooo true... Book spoiler (for now): Near the end of the 4th book. I was really starting to have a thorough respect and almost liking for Tywin. In TV show news, I felt so sorry for Hodor in the last episode. He didn't do it.
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Svip
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I still hope it ends with being a trip in the Holodeck.
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transgender nerd under canada
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Pretty sure the mountain is still alive
Warning: Major spoiler from the books! Don't click unless you really want to know! The Mountain's skull gets sent back to Dorne, after he spends several weeks dying in agony from the poison on the Viper's spear. Later, a very tall man whose head is never seen is found by Qyburn to fill a vacancy on the Kingsguard. He is silent, obedient, always has a helmet on through which a face cannot be seen, and doesn't seem to require food or drink.
He is named Ser Robert Strong, but it's thought by many readers that Qyburn managed to resurrect the body of the Mountain as some sort of golem similar to Frankenstein's monster.
The Viper, on the other hand, is just dead.
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chay´s head
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Pretty sure the mountain is still alive
Warning: Major spoiler from the books! Don't click unless you really want to know!
The Mountain's skull gets sent back to Dorne, after he spends several weeks dying in agony from the poison on the Viper's spear. Later, a very tall man whose head is never seen is found by Qyburn to fill a vacancy on the Kingsguard. He is silent, obedient, always has a helmet on through which a face cannot be seen, and doesn't seem to require food or drink.
He is named Ser Robert Strong, but it's thought by many readers that Qyburn managed to resurrect the body of the Mountain as some sort of golem similar to Frankenstein's monster.
The Viper, on the other hand, is just dead.
Book Spoiler reply Yeah, but unless that becomes a major thing in the book (Which it might still...) I don't think they'd waste time saying that the mountain took a while to die. I feel at the start of the next episode they will either reference him dying shortly after, or perhaps he will die within the episode.
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transgender nerd under canada
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It also seems weird that so many people seem to accept this as the demise of Tyrion. I won't be surprised if Tyrion dies at some point, but this seems like a lot of stress to put us through for him to not wriggle his way out of it somehow at the end. Book spoilers. Big ones. Don't click unless you really want to know what happens to each of the Lannisters. Major spoilers hidden under an extra spoiler tag. Don't click unless you really want to know. Jaime frees Tyrion, having conspired with Varys to make sure that his little brother is safe. Varys then arranges for him to take a trip across the Narrow Sea, where he will meet with a number of unfortunate changes in circumstance, but remain alive. He makes it to the walls of Meereen, where he manages to turn things around for himself, based on his reputation as a kingslayer. Oh, and as a kinslayer. The last thing he does in King's Landing is visit his father. Whom he shoots with a crossbow because Tywin declares that he just wouldn't dare. Had he not done that, he'd have lived. He kills Shae, who is in Tywin's bed at the time, and then he departs for Pentos.
Jaime is somewhat distraught, because Tyrion tells him of Cersei's affairs with various shitheads, and then says that he did kill Joffrey, in revenge for Jaime's part in convincing Tyrion that his first wife was just a whore (in reality, she was what she seemed to be, but Tywin didn't want a son of his marrying a commoner - however much he despised Tyrion, he was still a Lannister).
Cersei appears to escape unscathed, but is tormented by the thought that Tyrion is out there and might be scheming to wreak a more terrible revenge upon her (his only plan for her when he sees her again is to rape and kill her, but she doesn't know it's so simple). The idea of Tyrion plotting against her begins to consume her and reduces the effectiveness of her machinations in general (mainly by occupying her attention). Obviously, this plays a huge part in throwing the seven kingdoms into greater turmoil. It's a real game-changer for Jaime, and turning point for anybody relying on the Lannisters or cowed by the threat of Lannister revenge if they don't behave themselves - the Lannisters are suddenly far too busy mourning (I guess that the lesson is, no matter how much you hate somebody, you'll miss them once they're gone) and dealing with their own family stuff to be much of a threat to anybody for a while. It affects them in much the same way that Ned's death affected the Starks and the North. Naturally, these events will be a complete shock to the people who only watch the show, and I'm guessing that a huge number of people will miss the subtle telegraphy which the show uses to tell you what's going to happen in an episode. Which will mean many more shocked reactions.
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~FazeShift~
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Yeah, some say that camera pan around the castle is still panning to this day! Neil Marshall, also directed the Battle of Blackwater Bay, awesome jobs. Nobody made it up the wall though, seems pretty secure to me, Mances ace was Tormunds team on the other side which was taken care of After that the big fucking wall-wiper will take care of anything else if they also blow the tunnel?
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winna
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Actually, I'm looking forward to the end of the third book. But yeah ep9 was a lot of filler... I think blackwater bay was a better episode, but to be honest, I like switching between narrative perspectives probably because I have add or something. @Faze The security of the wall isn't necessarily making it over. A few giants and some distractions basically made it through the gate. The wall is undermanned, and it has a hole in it at the bottom, which is clearly penetrable with the manpower and resources Mance has with him. That's precisely why Jon's bad plan really is the best and only plan available. Ep10 should be totally awesome and off the chain though.
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