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UnrealLegend

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« Reply #720 on: 03-23-2016 11:05 »

The guy who robbed Daryl is Dwight

Fuckin' called it.

The bolt to the head took me by surprise even though I was expecting it. wtf?
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #721 on: 04-07-2016 14:34 »
« Last Edit on: 04-07-2016 14:41 »

Sadly, that season finale was total horseshit. They somehow don't have enough faith in the show to do well on it's own merits without resorting to bullshit cliffhangers. And now, they've completely killed the momentum of that particular scene to the point where I can't see how it could possibly recover it for the start of season 7.

I'm amazed that they screwed up what is by far the most famous scene from the comics after setting it up so well. Especially because the setup and tension in the final 10 minutes were done masterfully. My heart was pounding so hard that I'd barely have cared if they copped out and had Negan chose a nobody like Rosita. But nope, gotta secure those views for the next season, even though nobody will give a shit 6 months from now.

Fuck this show.
JoshTheater

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« Reply #722 on: 04-07-2016 18:27 »

Agreed. What a ridiculous copout.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #723 on: 04-20-2016 12:08 »

This show is bullshit.
Super Hans

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« Reply #724 on: 04-26-2016 13:17 »

Nothing wrong with cliffhangers IMO. I like the idea that nerds are fuming they didn't get to see who bit it laff
Hope its Glenn but its probably Abe or the mullet guy.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #725 on: 04-26-2016 15:06 »

There's nothing inherently wrong with cliffhangers when they make you excited for what's next. But in this particular instance, they cheated the audience out of the climax that the past six episodes had been building up to. And like I said before, the momentum is dead. Any impact that scene might have is gone now.
JoshTheater

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« Reply #726 on: 04-26-2016 15:40 »

Yeah, I'm not really mad that I don't know who got killed, the show hasn't done enthe work to get me invested enough in these versions of these characters to care. What bothered me about it was that we didn't get to see it happen, period. Showing it from the angle they did was silly and deflated all the tension that the scene had been building up.
Super Hans

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« Reply #727 on: 04-26-2016 16:35 »

WE got to see it from the POV of the person getting their heads caved in, some might see that as a cheap trick but I liked it. Its probably not a big character, a big character death makes a better cliffhanger than a mystery killing but a mystery killing is a better cliffhanger than us seeing them kill a minor character. So that probably means Glenn is safe unfortunately, will probably be Abe or Eugene on maybe Sasha. 
JoshTheater

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« Reply #728 on: 04-26-2016 19:16 »

It being Maggie would be the only thing that might possibly redeem it as a cliffhanger.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #729 on: 04-26-2016 23:50 »

Maggie would actually be a really shocking choice, and I might even forgive the writers if they had the balls to kill a pregnant woman.

But if it's not her, it has to be either Glenn, Daryl or Michonne. If they chicken out and kill a minor character then I won't be able to take the show seriously anymore. There hasn't been a major character death for like, 2 and a half seasons.

And completely irrelevant to this rant, but I like how Trevor from GTA V is one of Negan's henchmen. Hopefully he becomes a recurring character.
Super Hans

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« Reply #730 on: 04-27-2016 13:26 »

Ye both want Maggie to die  confused
She is the nicest piece of eye candy on the show.

Strange way of coming out of the closet guys.

cyber_turnip

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« Reply #731 on: 05-05-2016 12:32 »

There's nothing wrong with cliffhangers as a general concept, but in the comics, this scene is incredibly powerful and a real emotional gut-punch.

They reduced it to a cheap bit of cynical marketing and there's absolutely no way that this scene will ever have the impact that it should have had, now. Even if it picks up from the second the season finale ended, the pacing will be completely thrown off and ruined.

A show should never put "generating hype" or word of mouth ahead of its actual content to the point that it affects the writing. This season of The Walking Dead is the most blatant example of that that I've ever seen in a TV show (I know there's much worse out there, I just don't typically watch that sort of crap).
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #732 on: 10-24-2016 11:33 »

I'm still very pissed off with the way last season ended, but I gotta give credit where credit is due: the season 7 premiere was extremely well-done. And gross.

Enormous spoilers ahead.

Still should've been completely contained to a single episode, buuuut... It still ended up going down much better than I thought it would.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #733 on: 10-24-2016 15:45 »


Scott M. Gimple venting anger at everyone who said the season 6 cliffhanger sucked balls, I presume.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #734 on: 10-24-2016 22:28 »

Well, a good way to avoid that is to not write a garbage cliffhanger in the first place. no no
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #735 on: 10-27-2016 00:04 »

I must admit, it was a very strong opening episode even if it did favour cheap, relentlessness over "real content" and even if the ending was a bit drawn out and ponderous, what with all the long shots of people over piano music.

I hope the season keeps this quality up. I don't have high hopes given how many times this show has started strong and fizzled out in the past, but they've got some bloody good source material to be working with this season so let's hope they pull it off.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #736 on: 12-02-2016 08:26 »

I hope the season keeps this quality up.

So far, it hasn't.

The story has been moving at a snail's pace and on top of that it's been spread incredibly thin. This week's episode is possibly the lowest point in the show's history: an entire episode about Tara. What silly person thought that was a good idea? confused She's an okay side character but the actress really isn't talented enough to carry the entire thing.

There's so many characters now, and the show is clearly starting to suffer as a result because AMC are to cheap to hire the all the actors for every episode. We haven't seen King Ezekiel since he was introduced (which I thought was a really good episode, by the way. I'm both happy and surprised they went all out and decided to include the tiger), and the Hilltop has made only it's second appearance since its debut all the way back in the last season. I definitely won't watch the next half of season 7 as it airs, because the draw out "one character at a time" formula is a total drag. TWD is a show for binging.

Still, there's a heap of cool shit in the comic that happens around this time which I'm excited to see adapted:

But here's hoping some shit actually happens.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #737 on: 12-26-2016 14:55 »
« Last Edit on: 12-26-2016 14:56 »

But here's hoping some shit actually happens.

Well, it kinda did. The two remaining episodes were definitely an improvement over the ones prior to them, mainly because they did away with the "one small group per episode" bullshit.

I'm quite happy with the way certain scenes played out. I'm less happy about Rosita being a complete fucking idiot, but whatever. It's not like her comic counterpart is any better. Negan instantly knowing her bullet was custom-made was a bit of a cop-out though... it's really not out of the realm of possibility that she just found it. The whole "Guts" sequence made up for it at least.

I didn't mention it in my other post but that one episode where Negan was taking their guns annoyed me. Everyone totally forgot that Carol and Morgan weren't present at Alexandria, both of whom were armed. There was also Tara and Heath, though I can't remember if they were armed or not. Either way, everyone was so convinced the idiot Spencer had them it annoyed me that they never considered the others who weren't present. Seems like a really obvious plot-hole.

Anyway, the mid-season ended on a decent note. Hopefully they don't wait until season 8 before starting the war, because I don't know how the hell they could fill an entire half-season without starting it.

I also feel like I'm the only one in this thread. Oh well, I enjoy putting my thoughts into writing at least. Maybe cyber_turnip will show up. Hi there, cyber_turnip! If you're reading this
JoshTheater

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« Reply #738 on: 12-27-2016 05:27 »
« Last Edit on: 12-27-2016 05:31 »

The number of times someone had the intent and opportunity to shoot Negan or bash his head in and either didn't because of ineptitude or straight up failed due to sheer idiotic luck was immensely frustrating. Every time it served to make Negan's character seem less dangerous. He frequently leaves himself vulnerable to those kind of attacks and it seems like anyone who was motivated enough could easily take him out without much reason for hesitation. Yes, he has a huge army, but they all seem united by his rule and his rule only and would likely fall into chaos and infighting were he to die, too distracted by the upset of their own ranks to take any kind of organized revenge on the asssassin's group. They did such a good job building Negan up to be this untouchable villain who struck so much fear into everyone, that every time the season went out of its way to unnecessarily undo that was maddening.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #739 on: 03-06-2017 11:27 »
« Last Edit on: 03-06-2017 11:29 »

So, this was in the latest episode (bottom-right corner):



Who the fuck approved that CGI? laff Did they blow their budget on the tiger? laff
JoshTheater

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« Reply #740 on: 04-18-2017 00:52 »
« Last Edit on: 04-18-2017 00:56 »

So I finally caught up and finished the season. It was alright...better than the first half of the season for sure. There were a couple episodes that I thought were pretty good and not much that hugely bothered me, though the way everything played out did feel fairly predictable and by-the-numbers. I wish the finale spent less time on those pointless flashbacks but that's kind of par for the course for the show at this point. Maggie's narrations also seemed like total filler, I really hope that they skip forward in time a bit so she can have her baby early on next season so she can maybe become an interesting character again.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #741 on: 04-18-2017 07:59 »

Funny, I always thought Maggie was one of the shallowest characters on the show. Everything to do with her character was drama related to her relationship with Glenn, and now that he's out of the picture she has a chance to develop in some other ways.

Some other thoughts:

-I love Gregory. He's a vile, cowardly scumbag who was perfectly cast.
-Negan is becoming really annoying. He can't interact with anyone with a fake "calm" manner and that idiotic head-tilt. It's not intimidating.
-The trash people were lame and their betrayal was super predictable.
-That one episode with Morgan snapping and killing that guy was one of the best in a long time. I love Morgan's actor.
-Dwight's turn to the good side seemed weird because he didn't really explain why he can't kill Negan himself. They touched upon that in the comic but it was kind of brushed aside here.
-Rosita and Sasha are fucking idiots in every sense of the word. The concept of patience seems completely lost on them.
JoshTheater

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« Reply #742 on: 04-18-2017 23:25 »
« Last Edit on: 04-18-2017 23:29 »

Yeah, I think I meant to say "for once" instead of "again" in regards to Maggie. Glenn dying gave her the chance to become an interesting character but the pregnancy sort of drags that potential down. Kind of a bummer.

As far as Negan goes, I actually felt like maybe the writers were self-aware about his repetitive act wearing thin since some of the protagonists seemed to become less intimidated by him after so many encounters. Though it's sort of hard to not be intimidated no matter what when he has you at gunpoint and is telling you your loved ones are about to get turned into mush.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #743 on: 06-30-2017 19:13 »

Fear the Walking Dead is so bad, I can't even force myself to keep up with it for the sake of overall show context any more. I'm giving up on it. I hope it never crosses over with the real show.
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