Red Dwarf

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there are 2, neither were any good
but then again the UK version sucked after the first 38 episodes

[Reply #321 on:]

I just saw the first episode of series ten; it was a lot better than I'd expected; I'm glad they have returned to just having the core characters. I particularly liked the recurring Swedish moose gag!

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I just saw the first episode of series ten; it was a lot better than I'd expected;

Agreed: it was the first real laugh I’ve had in ages. Let’s hope they can keep this up for the whole series.

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Yeah; I expected it to be crap but it was actually surprisingly OK. Not amazing by any means but good enough to suggest that this series will be the best since series 6 which - given how long it's been off the air and how much times have changed - is fairly impressive in itself.

I enjoyed it and I'm looking forwards to the other 5 new episodes.

I thought the moose joke was terrible, though.

[Reply #324 on:]

Some of the humour seemed just a little bit contrived/predictable...

But that didn't stop me absolutely howling at several points. Agree very much with the "better than expected" - possibly even into "better than hoped" territory. Yep, hope they can keep it up too.

[Reply #325 on:]

Enjoyed episode 2 overall - some very good stuff in there let down by a few 'WTF??' moments (the Medibots, "Taiwan Tony")

I do hope we see Holly in some form!

[Reply #326 on:]

Yeah, with the exception of the bafflingly racist Chinese food machine, it was even better than the first episode. Series X is well on track to being an amazing return to form and easily the best series since VI.

[Reply #327 on:]

I thought it was pretty funny although 'Taiwan Tony' and the medibot were a little misjudged; I'm sure they were meant to be mocking a stereotype that is hardly accurate while discussing the potential racism of an innocent game... they just weren't that funny though.

[Reply #328 on:]

I'm really liking this so far, it's a great reboot of the show.

Liked all the robots and everything this episode, part of the show's appeal is how surreal it is. Love the occasional use of the season 1 theme tune thrown into the soundtrack as well.

[Reply #329 on:]

I too have been pleasantly surprised by series X so far. I had set my expectation mode to zero though.

[Reply #330 on:]

Scene:  Me, Nix, and Nix's parents, all seated at the table for dinner. Conversation thus far has had NOTHING to do with TV.

Nix's mom: "what was that show you used to like? Red Devil?"

Nix: "Oh, Red Dwarf".

Nix's mom: "Yeah. That was a stupid show".

ME: "HAHAHAHA".

[Reply #331 on:]

i accually used to hang out at the red dwarf forums,AaAaHh good times

[Reply #332 on:]

Just watched second episode.. so far pleased with it... my problem is that there is many things missing.. the episode seems to me more related to early seasons than later ones and thats good.. but many things left and i hate resets...

-When are we going to find out why Rimmer is back as a hologram, what happent after "only the good guys"?

-What happent to Holly? in Back to Earth they said it was temporaly unoperative due to a water incident... but now? they said in ep2 that they miss holly.. but no info if they can bring it back or not?

-The sets are quite good ... they have made room quarters, hallways and even the command bridge of Red Dwarf.. also using both StarBugs and BlueMidgets... and all are models

Now on episode 2:

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Im confused... Lister is his own father as we learnt in Ouroborosh .. they even got right where he abandoned himself.. but if i dont renember bad in Ouroborosh the scene where Dave lefts himself in the pub was suposed to take place in the "Future" when Dave has a son and he abandons himself travelling back in time to earth... we dont know with whom he has himself (suposedly Kochansky in the future i guess) or how he can get back to earth and in time to deliver himself..

So my impression was that those are things "to come" .. how they all know about it so well?

-Lister said "to himself" to go out and find Chrisy.. wich is a direct (at last) reference to back to earth... i was fearing a reset with with Back to earth and the end of "Only the good guys.." it seems like too many resets allready...

really.. i dont know what to espect.. are they going to just ignore all? are they going to explain or follow?
 

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Just watched second episode.. so far pleased with it... my problem is that there is many things missing.. the episode seems to me more related to early seasons than later ones and thats good.. but many things left and i hate resets...

-When are we going to find out why Rimmer is back as a hologram, what happent after "only the good guys"?

-What happent to Holly? in Back to Earth they said it was temporaly unoperative due to a water incident... but now? they said in ep2 that they miss holly.. but no info if they can bring it back or not?

-The sets are quite good ... they have made room quarters, hallways and even the command bridge of Red Dwarf.. also using both StarBugs and BlueMidgets... and all are models

Now on episode 2:


Im confused... Lister is his own father as we learnt in Ouroborosh .. they even got right where he abandoned himself.. but if i dont renember bad in Ouroborosh the scene where Dave lefts himself in the pub was suposed to take place in the "Future" when Dave has a son and he abandons himself travelling back in time to earth... we dont know with whom he has himself (suposedly Kochansky in the future i guess) or how he can get back to earth and in time to deliver himself..

So my impression was that those are things "to come" .. how they all know about it so well?

-Lister said "to himself" to go out and find Chrisy.. wich is a direct (at last) reference to back to earth... i was fearing a reset with with Back to earth and the end of "Only the good guys.." it seems like too many resets allready...

really.. i dont know what to espect.. are they going to just ignore all? are they going to explain or follow?
 

im guessing there going to just go on and follow,that sounds like red dwarf to me

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episode 3:lemons

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i loved it,so funny when rimmer said it was the highlight of his life to hold jesus's junk for everyone.that came out wrong
cats reaction after finding out he ate listers spleen was hilarious but i dont understand how they survived the 6 month walk.what did they eat or drink?

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I finished watching last episode of the season..

Quality was good... it reminds me a lot seasons 3-5 ....

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but in the end they didnt did much.... where was the search of Kochanski? it was mentioned for sure couple of times but did nothing... or how about getin back to Earth ....

Last episode "in the beginning" was quite good ... and at least they acknowledge that they managed to survive the nanovirus thing in the end of season 8 ... that also seems to confirm that Rimmer is the resurrected Rimmer in hologram (for some reason) form... wich would mean he died again... yet here he says his death was the original one in the first episode...

Good season,  much better than Series 8 but still seems like a lot of loosed time considering there is at least 2 archs going on..

Also where is Holly and the Scutters? the later at least apeared in Back to Earth...  Holly was suposed to be temporally offline due to a water incident ...

[Reply #336 on:]

I enjoyed the series overall and thought it was remarkable to say that the show has been gone for so long and that its style is quite out-dated to be honest.
But yeah, I enjoyed all 6 episodes and they stood head and shoulders above series 7-9.
Lemons and The Beginning were the two best episodes by my reckoning, although it's a bit strange that all of this Kochanksi / end of series 8 stuff was promised but instead all we got were two "fuck you" type jokes. I guess that was the joke. I know I found the end of series 8 one funny - particularly as I really couldn't care less about this show's ongoing continuity and story arcs seeing as how much it's shat on them already - but I know some people get really irate about this stuff and the thought of how much that must have upset them amused me.

[Reply #337 on:]

Got the DVD the other day - the documentary on the second disc is worth the price of admission alone I think!

RD:X was troubled in terms of logistics and production

[Reply #338 on:]

Apparently there will be more new Red Dwarf next year; according to the BBC Craig Charles is leaving some soap so he can concentrate on making Red Dwarf

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[Reply #339 on:]

I used to frequently see Craig Charles walking on his way to work at Coronation Street, so it'll be a shame for that to be over and it's also a shame that series 11 has been pushed back from 2015 to 2016, but if it means we get series 12 the following year then that's a brilliant trade-off.

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Question: Is it even possible to get into this show from the beginning without having grown up with it, or is the sitcom humor too outdated to amuse somebody who's never seen it? I recall watching the pilot episode years ago and not laughing a single time, but I can accept that might not mean so much. So fans, be honest...is this show's legacy a matter of nostalgia, or does it honestly grow into something that should be able to be enjoyed by any sci-fi/comedy fan?

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The first season is very much outdated by now. The second is less so, the third is pretty timeless (although you need to have seen much of the first and second to truly appreciate it), and the fourth, fifth, and sixth seasons are holding up pretty well.

The seventh season is weak, the eighth is a big disappointment, and the three-part special "Back to Earth" that comprises the ninth season is just bonkers. Good bonkers, but bonkers nonetheless.

Season ten was a mixed bag.

I think it's worth getting into for the sake of that chunk in the middle, and each season (even eight) has at least one good episode (eight's is the one with the computer that can see the future, for me).

Some of it might go over your head, since you're American and won't know the particular niche of British pop culture that's being made fun of for certain jokes, but there's a lot that won't. Season three's "polymorph" is possibly one of the finest moments the show's had (although it's one that you need to know the characters pretty well to really enjoy, so seasons one and two are required viewing beforehand). That's got hardly anything in it to confuse foreign audiences.

Watch the first season, and if you don't like it then look around online for "Can't smeg, won't smeg", and the "smeg outs" blooper reels. Then skip ahead to season four. If you enjoy season four, watch seasons two and three, then five and six. Stop at the end of six, remind yourself that it's downhill gently throughout season seven, watch seven, then stop and remind yourself that eight goes downhill fast. Watch eight, stop and remind yourself that the show has almost zero continuity, and then watch seasons nine and ten.

If you like the first season, watch it all in order, with "Can't smeg, won't smeg" and the "smeg outs" as special treats at the end. There are also a bunch of interviews with various famous people that the BBC recorded in tribute to Red Dwarf, including one with Patrick Stewart talking about how he felt when he discovered that they were making fun of Star Trek.

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I didn't grow up with Red Dwarf and always felt that it seemed like a really cheap, outdated sitcom format based on what my friends had shown me and the pilot.

But I was slowly exposed to random episodes being repeated on Dave and decided to splurge on the complete series boxset that was out at the time due to how ludicrously cheap it was.

I love Red Dwarf, now, but I also feel that it only really finds its feet in series 3. It started as an odd-couple sitcom in space but it transitioned into a proper science-fiction comedy that actually explored some pretty fantastic concepts - much like Futurama (though, let's nip this in the bud: it doesn't come close to the quality of Futurama).

So yeah, I'd recommend sticking with it until series 3. 3-6 are definitely the show's golden years (though a lot of fans do swear by the first two). 7 onwards are questionable.

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3-6 are definitely the show's golden years (though a lot of fans do swear by the first two).

I think that's due to the character development that occurs during the first two seasons, and all the things we learn about the characters during this time that ends up being somewhat important later.

[Reply #344 on:]

I prefer the Futurama way of doing things where you establish the robots and lasers before moving on to character development.

[Reply #345 on:]

So you're all about style over substance. Got it.

[Reply #346 on:]

Substance built on a groundwork of style.