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JoshTheater

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« Reply #120 on: 05-26-2010 07:39 »

Yes Fazeshift, listen to the people. You didn't completely understand and that's okay. The "alternate timeline" actually wasn't an alternate timeline that was created when the bomb went off at all. Rather, it was actually purgatory for everyone far in the future after they all eventually died, so that they could all meet eachother again and move on to heaven. That's why everyone was "remembering stuff". They weren't actually having flashes of alternate timelines, they were remembering their actual lives before they died.
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« Reply #121 on: 05-26-2010 20:47 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2010 20:56 »

You really refer to yourself as white?  IDK where you live, but here when we fill out a census form no latino - no matter how white in color would check the "Caucasian, white" box.



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006051812639
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« Reply #122 on: 05-26-2010 23:40 »

Weird US thing, you ain't gittin in unless you tell us wat colour ya'll are!

So that means... THEY REALLY DID KILL DAN?!?! eek BAWWWW!
Heh just kidding, but it was still way confusing.
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« Reply #123 on: 05-27-2010 00:47 »
« Last Edit on: 05-27-2010 01:20 by ~FazeShift~ »

You really refer to yourself as white?  IDK where you live, but here when we fill out a census form no latino - no matter how white in color would check the "Caucasian, white" box.
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006051812639

Oh yah, yahoo answers is such a great source too.  Ill make sure to tell my students to cite it.
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« Reply #124 on: 05-27-2010 01:19 »


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rach_the_tall

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« Reply #125 on: 05-27-2010 01:21 »

Didn't watch Lost, but it was totally worth checking this thread for Amy's post informing Spanish-native Javier of his true ethnicity, as decided by citizens of the US.
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« Reply #126 on: 05-27-2010 01:26 »
« Last Edit on: 05-27-2010 01:29 »

No, you said Spaniards aren't white. Don't try to get out of this one. He's from the Canary Islands. That's in Europe, not Mexico. Hispanics/Latinos as you know them are a mix between European Iberians and Native Americans. Spaniards are more closely related to the Portuguese, French, and Italians. This is especially true after over 500 years of breeding with the natives of the Americas. Ergo, he's European and white, like the rest of the remaining cast other than Miles and Hurley.

And an actual Spaniard on this board said you were wrong! If you had actually looked at this profile rather than making a baseless assumption, you would've found out that he's from Oviedo, a city in northwestern Spain, not the United States. Latino is an ethnic group of the Americas. Not Europe. It has nothing to do with the color of your skin! Being Caucasian is racial, just like being African or Asian. Here's a dandy chart to help you out:

And, as history and I have already told you, Hispanics and Latinos are a mix between European Iberians (Basque on that chart) and Native Americans. On the census, it asks first for your race. It lists White, Black, American Indian, Asian Indian, Chinese, Filipino, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Other Asian, Native Hawaiian, Guamanian, Samoan, Other Pacific Islanders, and Some Other Race. Note that it does not list the ethnic group Hispanic or Latino. On the census, you check as many as apply, not simply one. Somebody who is Hispanic of Latino can't merely select that as the answer to this question, they have to e White Hispanic, Black Hispanic (like Dominican), Asian Hispanic (some Filipinos identify as this), etc. Then, a second questions is do you have Hispanic or Latino origins, and you select whether you do or which origin you have (Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, etc.). You can't merely say your race is Mexican. It's not a race, it's an ethnicity. It's like saying that being French is a race.

In conclusion, Richard is white. If you won't believe what I've said here, believe Javier Lopez, WHO IS SPANISH!
Ninaka

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« Reply #127 on: 05-27-2010 03:52 »


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shhiiieeet you beat me to the punch! I was just coming over here to post that. haha.
Slackit02

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« Reply #128 on: 05-27-2010 04:48 »

A baseless assumption?  I never said he was white or non-white.  I asked him the question "you really refer to yourself as white?"  I'm pretty sure that isn't telling him anything.  Its asking him something.  Good reading skills though. 

Besides weiner, you are the one who made a retarded statement saying all non-white people had died.  Were you talking color specific?  Because I wasn't.  Is Richard white color?  Yes.  Would I call him white when talking about race?  No, I'd call him spanish.
JoshTheater

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« Reply #129 on: 05-27-2010 06:10 »

This is a stupid argument. Can't you just DISCUSS your opinions on what's white and what's not white rather than calling each other retarded and moronic? Come on.
Ninaka

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« Reply #130 on: 05-27-2010 10:18 »

Shut up everyone! How is this more important than talking about the FINALE?
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« Reply #131 on: 05-27-2010 13:20 »

Um, Ninny, this is the Internet. Everything is important.
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« Reply #132 on: 05-27-2010 15:11 »
« Last Edit on: 05-27-2010 15:15 »

I just saw the alternative finales, making the mistake of thinking they were actual alternative finales..

Still.. they say they will answer many things on the DVDs...

Its ok, since i will not buy them and found out downloading or reading forums (wich saves time)




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« Reply #133 on: 05-27-2010 18:43 »

DVD will have a 12-14 minute segment of Hurley and Ben as #1 and #2 smile
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« Reply #134 on: 05-27-2010 19:48 »

That automatically makes me hope for TNG jokes.
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #135 on: 05-28-2010 00:09 »

Hahahahahaha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJVSRqltKsU&feature=channel

brilliant
Ninaka

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« Reply #136 on: 05-28-2010 06:47 »

DVD will have a 12-14 minute segment of Hurley and Ben as #1 and #2 smile

I knowwww I can't wait to see this!
Ben

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« Reply #137 on: 05-28-2010 14:49 »

Weak ending to a weak season of a great show. It's all a bit melancholic, really.
any1else

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« Reply #138 on: 05-28-2010 18:20 »

Finally got around to watching ye olde finale.

How the hell can the plane be flying over the island at the end? When it crashed they were a thousand miles off course. Surely if they weren't going to crash they would have been on course mad

And otherwise....PEH. It felt all big and build-uppy and then it just stopped and died. Literally. No dah they're all going to die roll eyes Nice deduction there, writers.
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« Reply #139 on: 05-28-2010 18:53 »

How the hell can the plane be flying over the island at the end? When it crashed they were a thousand miles off course. Surely if they weren't going to crash they would have been on course mad

Errr.. that was the Ajira plane after taking off from Hydra island and overflying the main island and getting away to god knows where..


On that matter..  what would happen when a Boeing 737 wich has been missing for weeks shows up suddenly patched up with some people inside, most of wich werent even in the flight and with ALL the rest of the passage missing and dead?

If that 737 could had flown with only 1 hour of quick repairs? why they camped and remained sitting there?
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« Reply #140 on: 05-29-2010 01:37 »
« Last Edit on: 05-29-2010 01:43 »


View full for more detail.

Also, the writers revealed the MIB's name was, apparently, Samuel.
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Samuel
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #141 on: 05-29-2010 02:02 »

Says Kristin Don Santos. She also said a lot of false information (following is from the renaming of MIB's page on Lostpedia):
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Kristin was wrong. Watch the video where she revealed Samuel was his name in that post-finale Q&A. She answered fan questions from the audience and got answers wrong time and again. She said Samuel was the MIB's name. No that was for the casting call. She said that John Terry voiced the "help me" line in the Cabin. No that was Carlton Cuse. She said that line happened in the same episode we saw Christian on the rocking chair - no they were different episodes. She said it was John Terry's eye in the cabin, no it was Simon_Elbling. This is just the stuff i remember her getting wrong in that ONE VIDEO. Seriously i would trust Kristen as far as i could throw her
She's not even related to the show! She's just a writer for E! Online. I don't trust it.
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« Reply #142 on: 05-29-2010 03:35 »

I was tricked by the internet... the shame! cry
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« Reply #143 on: 05-29-2010 20:18 »

I loved the show, but not best pleased with the ending. I don't get why Hurley and Ben were the same age when they all met up in purgatory to move on. They lived for longer, Hurley compliments Ben for his work, but their age suggests they died at the same time as Jack because they look the same as they did then. Surely they couldn't have lived until being old men, and then reverted back to the how they looked when Jack died? Of course none of their bodies are physically real at that point, but you catch my drift. Ben would have remembered Hurely as looking older, and Hurley would have remember Ben as looking older as they lived until an older age before they died. This bothers me and makes it hard for me to accept this ending...
Slackit02

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« Reply #144 on: 05-30-2010 00:21 »

Purgatory isnt about how you remember someone, its how they want to look.  You really think people who died at 95 are walking around heaven looking that age?  They aren't.
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #145 on: 05-30-2010 04:27 »

I loved the show, but not best pleased with the ending. I don't get why Hurley and Ben were the same age when they all met up in purgatory to move on.


They showed at the age they had in the moment/time that joined all them together.. at least thats how i understand it. Both of them probably died of old age , same for Kate , Sawyer , Miles , Desmond .. etc
any1else

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« Reply #146 on: 06-03-2010 08:57 »

How the hell can the plane be flying over the island at the end? When it crashed they were a thousand miles off course. Surely if they weren't going to crash they would have been on course mad

Errr.. that was the Ajira plane after taking off from Hydra island and overflying the main island and getting away to god knows where..
That's my midnight brain for you. Always one step behind.

I will need to watch the finale again for things to fall more into place. But I don't think I will do that until it comes out for purchase, then I will have my little Lost marathon. It's much better when you can watch it all at once. But as it is, I'm still unsatisfied. It's like how did life begin. Who brought everyone to the island in the first place, how did it come to exist, where's my elephant?!
JoshTheater

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« Reply #147 on: 06-03-2010 17:56 »

Jacob brought everyone to the island. How did you not pick that up?

As for how it came to exist...*shrugs*
any1else

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« Reply #148 on: 06-04-2010 12:30 »

Uh, Jacob...was born on the island...so how did he bring the people who were already there confused
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #149 on: 06-04-2010 14:39 »

He came with those people. His mother was one of those Roman settlers/castaways.
any1else

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« Reply #150 on: 06-04-2010 15:13 »

But who brought them to the island? Mother was already there, how'd she get there? Who told them the island was so special in the first place?
Slackit02

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« Reply #151 on: 06-04-2010 16:13 »

Why is it so important to know?
any1else

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« Reply #152 on: 06-04-2010 16:23 »

Because I don't understand what the point of any of the characters was, with all the random sudden deaths and chance meetings, after all that time, if it was just to show that they all got back together for a giant orgy once they died.
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« Reply #153 on: 06-04-2010 18:02 »

But who brought them to the island? Mother was already there, how'd she get there? Who told them the island was so special in the first place?
The Romans? I assumed the Island had moved itself to the Mediterranean or North Atlantic and the Romans stumbled upon it or crashed into it.

How Mother got there was never explained. It's assumed she's been there for a very long time and that she was told by her predecessor of the Island's specialness. Or she was the first protector of the Island and was told by a god/the God. Or she was a goddess/the God and inherently knew.
any1else

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« Reply #154 on: 06-04-2010 18:10 »


"We just knew."
Convenient explanation. Too convenient. I demand blood!

Or maybe I should get some sleep.
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« Reply #155 on: 06-04-2010 21:46 »

Purgatory isnt about how you remember someone, its how they want to look.  You really think people who died at 95 are walking around heaven looking that age?  They aren't.

Purgatory and heaven are totally different concepts. Lrn2religion.
any1else

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« Reply #156 on: 06-05-2010 04:54 »

I just love how people can talk about the afterlife with such certainty "NOO, it happens like THIIISS!!!1"
It doesn't have to happen lyk dis if it's part of a fictional story.

But I expect fictional stories to answer a few more questions. They should have been able to do 7 seasons. Lucky number 7.

Did somebody answer this already? Why do they have to try and help people remember their lives in 'purgatory' and how do they all know to go meet at the church in the end? Did they remember in the order they died? How come Jack had a random son in purgatory land? WUT. Do they just invent the lives they want there? Yay Sun really wanted to get shot in purgatory confused Also why have a church, if they're going to invent their own views on life and death, they shouldn't need a generic church. The whole mystery stuff is just lost (haw) in that ending. They had all those special features about The Dharma Initiative and such and it seemed fun and exciting...all that seems so irrelevant now and it's sad.
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« Reply #157 on: 06-05-2010 08:08 »

Because I don't understand what the point of any of the characters was, with all the random sudden deaths and chance meetings, after all that time, if it was just to show that they all got back together for a giant orgy once they died.

A WizardThe Island did it
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« Reply #158 on: 06-09-2010 06:59 »
« Last Edit on: 06-09-2010 07:05 »

I really liked the ending.. nice and mystical and I loved the twist of the assumed alternate reality turning out to be the afterlife.

My friends hated it... I think they got too caught up in the details to enjoy the overall themes of the show.

Bit of a slow season overall, even if it ended brilliantly... I liked the temple for it's freakiness, but like last season, the bit in the middle just dragged.

Still, it was a damn good TV show, not often that a show with as much thought put into it as Lost comes along. It was a good 6 years. smile
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« Reply #159 on: 06-15-2010 21:17 »
« Last Edit on: 06-15-2010 21:19 »

I thought this map was pretty rad:
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