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« Reply #80 on: 03-03-2009 04:04 »

haha, friday...

Oh you guys, i'm seeing it THURSDAY. smile
I'd be seeing it tomorrow if I won those darn tickets like I was supposed to.
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« Reply #81 on: 03-03-2009 04:39 »

You mean like, the tickets to a preview screening tomorrow which I won? Was it anything like that, Faze? Was it? Like that? Like those preview tickets? Faze?
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« Reply #82 on: 03-03-2009 04:54 »

Oh SJM, you're seeing it tomorrow? As in Wednesday? I'm seeing it thursday! I think it's only out friday in the states, so we're seeing it 1-2 days before them. How cool is that? Don't you think that is cool other people who are only seeing it Friday? hmm?
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« Reply #83 on: 03-03-2009 05:47 »

You act like 2 days ever mattered.  The movie already existed.... doesn't matter what time you saw it in... as long as you understand the context.

Silly children.
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« Reply #84 on: 03-03-2009 05:50 »

But I get to see it before you ^_^
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« Reply #85 on: 03-03-2009 05:52 »

Did you?
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« Reply #86 on: 03-03-2009 07:13 »

I'm going to see it with my friend on saturday.
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« Reply #87 on: 03-03-2009 07:19 »

No, I didn't give you permission. You can't.
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« Reply #88 on: 03-03-2009 07:22 »

Sure I can. Go watch some men, chay tongue
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« Reply #89 on: 03-03-2009 15:16 »

I've got something for you to watch chay, right over here!
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« Reply #90 on: 03-03-2009 22:44 »

I have my ticket.  March 5 @ 12:01 AM.
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« Reply #91 on: 03-04-2009 01:50 »

THREE DAYS!

*FANBOY SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
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« Reply #92 on: 03-04-2009 02:00 »

the iPhone/iPod Touch app is pretty cool.
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« Reply #93 on: 03-04-2009 02:08 »

You mean like, the tickets to a preview screening tomorrow which I won? Was it anything like that, Faze? Was it? Like that? Like those preview tickets? Faze?
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« Reply #94 on: 03-04-2009 03:39 »

Sure I can. Go watch some men, chay tongue

You're the last person I'd expect to go see this.

No wait... Alan Moore is the last person I'd expect to go see Watchmen. Ironic? No. It's not.

Friday...wooooot!!!!
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« Reply #95 on: 03-04-2009 04:07 »

So this douchebag at the New Yorker gave Watchmen a negative review because it had no comedy...


What do you expect? The Comedian is dead.
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« Reply #96 on: 03-04-2009 04:30 »

i see what you did there.
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« Reply #97 on: 03-04-2009 05:51 »

So this douchebag at the New Yorker gave Watchmen a negative review because it had no comedy...


What do you expect? The Comedian is dead.

WATCHMEN is so dark that it makes The Dark Knight look like an episode of TAXI in comparison.

My wife read only a few pages of the graphic novel because it was so dark and depressing.
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« Reply #98 on: 03-04-2009 05:54 »

Final Thoughts before seeing the movie at the midnight opening:

I hope to God it doesn't suck...
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« Reply #99 on: 03-04-2009 06:29 »

I'll put this in a more relevant thread:
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« Reply #100 on: 03-04-2009 16:28 »

Wednesday... I could very likely go see it on Thursday... only if I remember to plan ahead.
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« Reply #101 on: 03-04-2009 21:02 »
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So this douchebag at the New Yorker gave Watchmen a negative review because it had no comedy...


What do you expect? The Comedian is dead.

WATCHMEN is so dark that it makes The Dark Knight look like an episode of TAXI in comparison.

My wife read only a few pages of the graphic novel because it was so dark and depressing.

People were saying it was too faithful to the book...

Thank God.


Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xlixMYekpk
All the clips released together
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« Reply #102 on: 03-05-2009 05:33 »
« Last Edit on: 03-05-2009 10:23 »

My impressions (which shall also end up in the review thread).

Over all, it works. I love the original books, and the movie clearly tries very hard to stay true to the spirit of the story. The themes, characters, and general ideas survive the transition mostly intact, and I can say that, as an adaptation, it felt quite successful to me. Oh, there are changes, yes, and a few rewrites to scenes which I feel didn't work anywhere near as effectively as they did in the comic, but overall, it's still definately Watchmen.

As a movie, however....

Firstly, the good points. It is, for the most part, pretty well acted, with Roarshach (who's going to win a new generation of fans with this film) and Nite Owl being standouts. Roarshach for just being Roarshach, and Nite Owl/Daniel for just being exactly as button-down and repressed as he needs to be. And the  Doc still makes me want to cry. The film definately commands attention, with plenty of high-impact fight scenes loaded with slow-mo, really giving the violence a lot of oomph. Speaking of violence, this is not santized Hollywood comic book violence. Bones splinter, limbs shatter, bullets tear bodies apart, and Dr Manhatton rips people to pieces in quite a gruesome fashion. This works for Watchmen, of course, as the effect of violence on people is never flinched away from. It's not exactly realistic, but it's certainly not glorified and that, I think, is the best way to do it. And mad props for no quick-cut fast editing, which usuallys makes me some combination of dizzy and angry. By and large, the music is appropriate sounding period music, with the best example being the opening credit montage set to Bob Dylan's 'The Times They Are a Changing'. It's a great scene-setter, demonstrating the Watchmen universe quite well. The plot is pretty intact, with one major change, but (and this may be a controversial opinion, but anyway) I feel it works quite fine within the context of the orignal story.
It's more a detail shift than a cast rewrite, and it allows the film to avoid a subplot and still accomplish the same goal within the narrative.

Now, onto the bad. Ozymandias is probably a bit micsast and misued. The actor playing him is way too thin and weedy.
. That may just be my impressions of the book colouring the movie, but never-the-less, it stuck out for me. The middle act sags. Like the comic, this film moves between the over-all story and spending time going into the background stories for these characters. While this worked quite well for the first act, with the Comedian and Dr Manhattan's rendered with just the right amount of revulsion and pathos (I've always liked Jon's story, anyway), Roarshach's story is very abbreviated, and suffered for it, which is the main problem with the middle act. Everything is squished and compressed and a lot of detail and nuance is lost. Worse yet, the main story vanishes into the background, and a lot of the feeling of impending doom is lost. The story wobbles back to it's feet in the last act, and still manages to take the gold in the final leg, but the middle part still left a bad taste in my mouth, as the comic fan inside me mourned for what was lost. The sex scene between Dan and Laurie was excessive. I shouldn't be checking my watch and thinking 'is this still going?'

To wrap up:

Watchmen, for me, worked. It's as good an adaptation of the source material as could be expected, I think, and while a lot of the detail is lost, it still manages to deconstruct the superhero mythos (now currently riding a wave of popularity due to film) fairly successfully. It tells a very human story in a fantastical setting, and that is what I've always loved it for, so overall, despite it's flaws, I think I shall declare it a success. It's not as deep and well put-together as I sometimes feel it could have been, but for the most part, it entertains, provokes, and enthralls. Only hardcore absolutionist fans with a similar approah to compromise as Roarshach will be disapointed, I think.
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« Reply #103 on: 03-05-2009 07:39 »

@weiner: That's the best thing I ever saw.
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« Reply #104 on: 03-05-2009 07:44 »

Coldangel's journal, March 5.

Slackjaw - I just got back from seeing it. Was gonna write a detailed review but I'd have been repeating everything you said.

Altered ending did make sense. Was peeved in parts by certain omissions, but it's a movie after all. Couldn't reproduce source material in its entirety. Nevertheless, one hopes for an extended special-edition DVD.
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« Reply #105 on: 03-05-2009 23:45 »

Loved it!

spoiler heavy review/thoughts ahead.

Really really enjoyed this film. I think it was a very good adaptation, it didn't deviate to much from the book (Except for the squid, but as SJM said, they alternate worked well in the context of the film, and it would be too hard to get in all the necessary subplot to fully explain the squid).

Good
 - Rorschach. He was brilliant. I think the actor did a terrific job, when he was unmasked he was brilliant, and the end part with Jon in the snow was absolutely tragic. I really feel for him
 - Music. The music was really well done, as SJM said the opening credits with The Times they are a changin' was good.
 - Opening credits. Again, they were really good with the music, and it helped fill in a few blanks and explain stuff quickly, and it was pretty shocking to see the girl putting the flower in the gun, only to see them all go off.
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Not necessarily bad, but not as good/niggling issues
 - Little unnecessary changes. There were a few things that the changed that didn't seem entirely necessary. One big one, was the fact that Rorschach didn't set the child murderers house on fire... what gives?! That was going to be awesome, instead he cleaves his head a bunch of times... I was disappointed.
 - Missing Bits. Obviously they couldn't put EVERYTHING in, and i won't full pass judgement till i've seen the directors cut, cause i felt like some things WERE going to be in it, like Hollis Masons murder, when Rorschach and Dan are in that bar towards the end, i think you do see a Knot-tops head just below frame that dan seems to notice, but you don't see anything more of it, so hopefully in th directors cut, that in it.
Also, it was nice that you did see the two Bernard's at the end, but I'm hoping when they splice in Black freighter, they give those two more lines.
- Ozymandias. Lame. Lame Lame Lame. Too young, too skinny, made him too much a "Cleanse the world!" psycho to early on. Needed to make him seem more arrogant and harmless i thought.
- Not enough Babastis!

Those are more random scattered thoughts then a proper review, but i've got to see it a few more times.
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« Reply #106 on: 03-06-2009 02:10 »
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I noticed in the released footage on Youtube that they changed the layout of Old Jupiter's house place and made her younger. I rathered her as the withering grandma in her death bed, thank you very much. Were there other changes like that? Little nuances that most people on only a single reading of the graphic novel will pick up?
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« Reply #107 on: 03-06-2009 02:24 »

Ozymadias looks about 30... when he should look about 50. Captain Metropolis is pretty much removed from the story, As was Hollis Mason which was kinda a bummer, but i think he'll have more in the directors cut. Also also, Rorschach gets his face back a lot sooner, he's got it back by the time Night Owl and Silk Spectre catch up with him.
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« Reply #108 on: 03-06-2009 02:39 »

Thank you, Chay.
You reassured me for this film.

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« Reply #109 on: 03-06-2009 02:54 »

*skips over reviews* shutupshutupjerkjerksyousuck

I just wanted to say, I'm doing a quick read of of the graphic novel again, skipping over the long texty bits and black freighter stuff just as a refresher.

Raw shark...!
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« Reply #110 on: 03-06-2009 03:28 »

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« Reply #111 on: 03-06-2009 04:09 »

The world will look up and shout save us and I'll whisper RARRRRL
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« Reply #112 on: 03-06-2009 04:17 »

skips thread

Going to see this in a couple of hours... it's odd, because unlike the rest of you, I haven't read the source material. I always meant to, but never got around to it.
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« Reply #113 on: 03-06-2009 04:56 »

That's good! It'll be good to hear your perspective on lots of things. I thought the title seqeunce was really good at summing up a lot of stuff they couldn't explain in depth, but that may just be because i've read it.
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« Reply #114 on: 03-06-2009 07:00 »

Can't wait to see this one, it's going to be The Dark Knight of 2009. They're really raising the bar as far as superhero movies go.
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« Reply #115 on: 03-06-2009 14:13 »
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Man, it was fucking GREAT!

I read some reviews that were less than stellar and some pretty critical of WATCHMEN but I feel it translated to the Big Screen quite well.

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I like WATCHMEN better than The Dark Knight, probably because of some nostalgia.  I bought the graphic novels when they came out in the 80's and have fond memories of geeking it up with fellow comic readers about the next issue and (Damned, I admit it), Dr. Manhatten's blue wang.
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« Reply #116 on: 03-06-2009 20:07 »

Thank you, Ralph. I was worried that I would be disappointed by this, but you completely reassured me.


FUCK YEAH WATCHMEN TONIGHT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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« Reply #117 on: 03-07-2009 00:25 »

Awesome. Watchmen has earned...



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« Reply #118 on: 03-07-2009 02:16 »

Lol.

Sounds like everything I expected to see.... I wanted to go and see it this weekend... but that probably won't pan out.  Oh well... patience is a virtue, right?
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« Reply #119 on: 03-07-2009 07:51 »

i'll probably have to wait until next week to see it, or I may just wait to see it at the cheap theater downtown
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