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Gopher

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« Reply #520 on: 10-17-2011 15:22 »

indeed. That smiley said more than the obvious "Seriously? Respect for the dead? What a pretentious cocksucker you are! It is to lol! I fart in your general direction!"
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« Reply #521 on: 10-17-2011 15:32 »
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Gopher

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« Reply #522 on: 10-17-2011 15:35 »

fair enough, and I've made my share of jokes about the recent dead (most recently, jobs), but you can at least have the decency to feel a little guilty about it, rather than feeling smugly superior to anyone who actually feels emotionally affected by the death.
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« Reply #523 on: 10-17-2011 20:23 »

If you never cared for a person while they were alive, it would be hypocritical to eulogize them when they shuffle off.
Too many good people pass away without comment to kiss the corpse of Steve Jobs.

This.

I wasn't trying to be smug about it. I was just making the point that I thought someone I knew personally had died and instead it was some celebrity I've never heard of. He's got his share of good will from his fans already, he doesn't need someone like myself pretending to care. Obviously it's sad when people die but you know, risks of the job, these things happen, thousands of other people I don't know die all the time too, etc.
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« Reply #524 on: 10-17-2011 20:28 »
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you weren't the one I was accusing of being smug, bianca was. Your comment was meant in jest and was received by some as insensitive, and they said so, prompting bianca to make more jokes and then roll eyes at the offended parties. Which struck me as rather smug.

Being sensitive and having empathy are not weaknesses or shortcomings. They're the only thing preventing humanity from self-destructing faster than an American pop superstar in a crack house on free sample day.
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« Reply #525 on: 10-17-2011 21:33 »

If you never cared for a person while they were alive, it would be hypocritical to eulogize them when they shuffle off.
Too many good people pass away without comment to kiss the corpse of Steve Jobs.

This.

I wasn't trying to be smug about it. I was just making the point that I thought someone I knew personally had died and instead it was some celebrity I've never heard of. He's got his share of good will from his fans already, he doesn't need someone like myself pretending to care. Obviously it's sad when people die but you know, risks of the job, these things happen, thousands of other people I don't know die all the time too, etc.

I may have appeared overly emotional earlier but just to clarify where I was coming from, I appreciate, keenly, the fact that you're grateful it was not the Dan Wheldon who you actually knew personally; it was just the choice of wording afterwards - just seemed to trivialise any emotional attachment people may have on the matter and to me, yes, it was insensitive.

Nothing insensitive about not joining in a eulogy to someone you never even knew existed until just now, but then subsequently, either unknowingly or deliberately cheapening the sense of loss that other people may happen to have...?
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« Reply #526 on: 10-20-2011 13:24 »
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« Reply #527 on: 10-20-2011 18:32 »
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« Reply #528 on: 10-20-2011 18:41 »

R.I.P.

Seriously?
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« Reply #529 on: 10-20-2011 18:45 »
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Gopher

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« Reply #530 on: 10-20-2011 18:52 »

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« Reply #531 on: 10-20-2011 18:59 »
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 tongue
Gopher

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« Reply #532 on: 10-20-2011 19:01 »

when the people of your country get so sick of you that they decide, rather than devote the rest of their lives to trying not to be killed, robbed, or otherwise harassed by you and your agents, and instead start setting themselves on fire in your front yard, that's a pretty clear indicator of evil.
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« Reply #533 on: 10-20-2011 19:08 »
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« Reply #534 on: 10-20-2011 19:10 »

It's trending on Twitter so it could be true.
Also reported on 5 live

No, I know he's dead, I've seen the image of his bleeding body, I'm shocked that you want him to R.I.P... no no
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« Reply #535 on: 10-20-2011 19:18 »
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coffeeBot

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« Reply #536 on: 10-20-2011 20:15 »

Probably the best way to remember Gadaffi - the cruel dictator with killer fashion sense.
Svip

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« Reply #537 on: 10-20-2011 20:22 »
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I had nothing against him. Even the most cruel of leaders gets the RIP treatment.

Yeah, Hitler was a great guy too.

This is why regime change should only be attempted by the people who actually live in the country ruled instead of outside agents. For example Romania, Egypt, Libya.

Totally.  No one in Egypt or Libya actually wanted a revolution, it was all by outside agents.
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« Reply #538 on: 10-20-2011 20:24 »

No one in Europe wanted Hitler to fall... shifty
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« Reply #539 on: 10-20-2011 20:42 »
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This is why regime change should only be attempted by the people who actually live in the country ruled instead of outside agents. For example Romania, Egypt, Libya.

Totally.  No one in Egypt or Libya actually wanted a revolution, it was all by outside agents.

I knew it, it was Tonga all along!
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« Reply #540 on: 10-21-2011 16:34 »
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Frisco17

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« Reply #541 on: 10-23-2011 22:32 »

Last I saw it was 1 billion and even if it was 2 that's pretty cheap considering the result.
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« Reply #542 on: 10-24-2011 14:30 »
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Tachyon

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« Reply #543 on: 10-24-2011 16:04 »


We (US and UK) could always go back to very efficient and profitable age of empires and banana republics.  Brutal puppet governments, rampant bribery, graft, and murder.  Subjugated peasants living in abject poverty and fear.

Yeah I realize that we'll still have the above to some degree, but I suspect that the general populaces of the countries of interest prefer the new ways to the old ways.

Strict isolationism will breed tyranny and eventually lead to greater suffering, IMO.

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« Reply #544 on: 10-24-2011 16:20 »
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« Reply #545 on: 10-24-2011 19:29 »

Technically the idea that the government is responsible for supporting the "downtrodden" is what allowed Stalin to come to power in the first place.
Gorky

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« Reply #546 on: 10-24-2011 19:39 »

That, and his bangin' mustache.
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« Reply #547 on: 10-24-2011 19:43 »

Gorky's nickname proves she has an affection for big moustaches.  Hint hint, Tedward.
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« Reply #548 on: 10-24-2011 20:06 »

Technically the idea that the government is responsible for supporting the "downtrodden" is what allowed Stalin to come to power in the first place.

Technically, but I think the idea is certainly a good one when taken with a grain of salt.
I think that the government does have a moral obligation to assist the struggling members of society, with the expectation that the recipient won't need the assistance forever.
Having personally benefited from things such as social security, these services can make such a difference.
Tedward

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« Reply #549 on: 10-24-2011 22:12 »

Hint hint, Tedward.

You've gone from self-proclaimed enemy to my supporter? Bless you, good duck.
Svip

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« Reply #550 on: 10-24-2011 22:57 »

Well, I cannot be enemies with Tedward!  Snails are not to be fought!  Just ask the French!
Gorky

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« Reply #551 on: 10-25-2011 05:14 »

I'm glad Tedward and Svip have reconciled, but I ought to mention that I don't much like mustaches. My father has one, you see, and I fear the Freudian implications of a suitor with similar facial hair.
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« Reply #552 on: 10-25-2011 05:56 »

Well, what you fail to see is that it's natural for you to be attracted to people who remind you of your father. roll eyes
JoshTheater

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« Reply #553 on: 10-25-2011 08:03 »

It's true. Your father is a very attractive man, Gorky.
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« Reply #554 on: 10-25-2011 18:31 »
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Gopher

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« Reply #555 on: 10-25-2011 19:16 »

Pah! If we help every insane veteran who can't cope, we'll never evolve to have a population who are completely immune to the horrors of war.

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« Reply #556 on: 10-25-2011 19:41 »
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« Reply #557 on: 10-29-2011 19:12 »

Well, what you fail to see is that it's natural for you to be attracted to people who remind you of your father. roll eyes
Yeah...I try not to think about it... eek
Tweek

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« Reply #558 on: 10-29-2011 19:29 »

Sir Jimmy Savile has died frown
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« Reply #559 on: 11-08-2011 05:40 »

RIP Joe Frazier

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/sports/joe-frazier-ex-heavyweight-champ-dies-at-67.html
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