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Zed 85
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If you never cared for a person while they were alive, it would be hypocritical to eulogize them when they shuffle off. Too many good people pass away without comment to kiss the corpse of Steve Jobs.
This.
I wasn't trying to be smug about it. I was just making the point that I thought someone I knew personally had died and instead it was some celebrity I've never heard of. He's got his share of good will from his fans already, he doesn't need someone like myself pretending to care. Obviously it's sad when people die but you know, risks of the job, these things happen, thousands of other people I don't know die all the time too, etc.
I may have appeared overly emotional earlier but just to clarify where I was coming from, I appreciate, keenly, the fact that you're grateful it was not the Dan Wheldon who you actually knew personally; it was just the choice of wording afterwards - just seemed to trivialise any emotional attachment people may have on the matter and to me, yes, it was insensitive. Nothing insensitive about not joining in a eulogy to someone you never even knew existed until just now, but then subsequently, either unknowingly or deliberately cheapening the sense of loss that other people may happen to have...?
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Gopher
Fallback Guy
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Svip
Administrator
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« Reply #537 on: 10-20-2011 20:22 »
« Last Edit on: 10-20-2011 20:23 »
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I had nothing against him. Even the most cruel of leaders gets the RIP treatment.
Yeah, Hitler was a great guy too. This is why regime change should only be attempted by the people who actually live in the country ruled instead of outside agents. For example Romania, Egypt, Libya.
Totally. No one in Egypt or Libya actually wanted a revolution, it was all by outside agents.
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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Last I saw it was 1 billion and even if it was 2 that's pretty cheap considering the result.
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Tachyon
DOOP Secretary
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We (US and UK) could always go back to very efficient and profitable age of empires and banana republics. Brutal puppet governments, rampant bribery, graft, and murder. Subjugated peasants living in abject poverty and fear.
Yeah I realize that we'll still have the above to some degree, but I suspect that the general populaces of the countries of interest prefer the new ways to the old ways.
Strict isolationism will breed tyranny and eventually lead to greater suffering, IMO.
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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Technically the idea that the government is responsible for supporting the "downtrodden" is what allowed Stalin to come to power in the first place.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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That, and his bangin' mustache.
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Svip
Administrator
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Gorky's nickname proves she has an affection for big moustaches. Hint hint, Tedward.
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coffeeBot
Urban Legend
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Technically the idea that the government is responsible for supporting the "downtrodden" is what allowed Stalin to come to power in the first place.
Technically, but I think the idea is certainly a good one when taken with a grain of salt. I think that the government does have a moral obligation to assist the struggling members of society, with the expectation that the recipient won't need the assistance forever. Having personally benefited from things such as social security, these services can make such a difference.
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Tedward
Professor
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Hint hint, Tedward.
You've gone from self-proclaimed enemy to my supporter? Bless you, good duck.
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Svip
Administrator
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Well, I cannot be enemies with Tedward! Snails are not to be fought! Just ask the French!
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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I'm glad Tedward and Svip have reconciled, but I ought to mention that I don't much like mustaches. My father has one, you see, and I fear the Freudian implications of a suitor with similar facial hair.
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Tweek
UberMod
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