Wish upon a star - Disney animated films

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1.       Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs
2.       Pinocchio
3.       Fantasia
4.       Dumbo
5.       Bambi
6.       Saludos Amigos
7.       The Three Caballeros
8.       Make Mine Music
9.       Fun And Fancy Free
10.     Melody Time
11.     The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad
12.     Cinderella
13.     Alice In Wonderland
14.     Peter Pan
15.     Lady And The Tramp
16.     Sleeping Beauty
17.     101 Dalmatians
18.     The Sword In The Stone
19.     The Jungle Book
20.     The Aristocats
21.     Robin Hood
22.     The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh
23.     The Rescuers
24.     The Fox And The Hound
25.     The Black Cauldron
26.     The Great Mouse Detective
27.     Oliver & Company
28.     The Little Mermaid
29.     The Rescuers Down Under
30.     Beauty And The Beast
31.     Aladdin
32.     The Lion King
33.     Pocahontas
34.     The Hunchback Of Notre Dame
35.     Hercules
36.     Mulan
37.     Tarzan
38.     Fantasia/2000
39.     The Emperor's New Groove
40.     Atlantis: The Lost Empire
41.     Lilo And Stitch
42.     Treasure Planet
43.     Brother Bear
44.     Home On The Range


These movies are part of the tradition of Disney films.  I loved old Disney animated films.  I grew up with a VHS collection of most of these films.  I recently, found some of these old VHS movies and I started watching once a week.  I forgot hope Disney used to make animated films.  Cartoons today are just aren't as good as they were back they.

Which are some of your favorites?  I like a majority of these films.  The only thing I hate is the fact that Disney is making DVD sequels to most of these classic.  The only good one was Return of Jafar, but the rest after that sucked, since it was about making money instead of putting art and heart into the work.

In 2009, Disney will return back to 2-D animated filmmaking with THE FROG PRINCE and it will introduce Disney's first African American Princess.  I do hope it will be a good film and it carries on the tradition of Disney Animated Films.

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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
1.       Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs
2.       Pinocchio
3.       Fantasia
4.       Dumbo
5.       Bambi
6.       Saludos Amigos
7.       The Three Caballeros
8.       Make Mine Music
9.       Fun And Fancy Free
10.     Melody Time
11.     The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad
12.     Cinderella
13.     Alice In Wonderland
14.     Peter Pan
15.     Lady And The Tramp
16.     Sleeping Beauty
17.     101 Dalmatians
18.     The Sword In The Stone
19.     The Jungle Book
20.     The Aristocats
21.     Robin Hood
22.     The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh
23.     The Rescuers
24.     The Fox And The Hound
25.     The Black Cauldron
26.     The Great Mouse Detective
27.     Oliver & Company
28.     The Little Mermaid
29.     The Rescuers Down Under
30.     Beauty And The Beast
31.     Aladdin
32.     The Lion King
33.     Pocahontas
34.     The Hunchback Of Notre Dame
35.     Hercules
36.     Mulan
37.     Tarzan
38.     Fantasia/2000
39.     The Emperor's New Groove
40.     Atlantis: The Lost Empire
41.     Lilo And Stitch
42.     Treasure Planet
43.     Brother Bear
44.     Home On The Range


These movies are part of the tradition of Disney films.  I loved old Disney animated films.  I grew up with a VHS collection of most of these films.  I recently, found some of these old VHS movies and I started watching once a week.  I forgot hope Disney used to make animated films.  Cartoons today are just aren't as good as they were back they.

Which are some of your favorites?  I like a majority of these films.  The only thing I hate is the fact that Disney is making DVD sequels to most of these classic.  The only good one was Return of Jafar, but the rest after that sucked, since it was about making money instead of putting art and heart into the work.

In 2009, Disney will return back to 2-D animated filmmaking with THE FROG PRINCE and it will introduce Disney's first African American Princess.  I do hope it will be a good film and it carries on the tradition of Disney Animated Films.

I've pretty much seen all of them, the ones crossed out I have/haven't seen or did not like. I still have alot of these on VHS too.

Also Robert Iger canned the last sequel and shut down the Sydney Disney animation studio that produced and animated most of the sequels over a year ago. Micheal Isener is a money hungry dick, looks like Bob is doing a better job.

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My 2 favorites would have to be robin hood and the jungle book

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Heh. Back in 2005 I started getting a bit bored/stressed with uni and ended up borrowing Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid and Pocahontas from a friend and watching them on roation throughout the days/weeks...
And when The Lion King and Aladdin came out on dvd I had to get them. Tasty. The Emperor's New Groove is the only "new" Disney movie that I have/enjoy. Mulan was okay too but anything after I turned 10 just didn't have the same appeal. It's harder to get into the songs as well. At least I can sing Be Prepared whole-heartedly because I saw it so many times when my brain was receptive..and Scar's just so camp it's delightful.

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Fantasia blows everything else outta the water.

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Fantasia and The Emperor's New Groove are the only two good movies on that list.

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I dunno. Beauty and the Beast is quite the classic.

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It turned out the Beast was prejudice. 

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I'll go with Fantasia and Beauty & the Beast.

Edit - I just saw the Disney WWII animated propaganda feature a couple of months ago; I think it was called "Victory through Air Power" (or something close).  It was way ahead of their animated pics at that time, and if on the list, I'd put it right up there with my 2 choices.

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Originally posted by M0le:
It turned out the Beast was prejudice.   

And he looks like a lady.

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You didn't like Hercules :O

Hercules is probably my favourite Disney film - the story is a bit meh but I'm willing to overlook that because it's got some of the best music written for animation. The gospel-style stuff is a joy to listen to and perform. Not to mention that James Woods puts in one of the finest vocal performances in any animation to date. It's probably the most consistently underrated Disney film.

I also adore Fantasia and Fantasia 2000; the ideas for animation are really unexpected if you know the music well. It's also brilliant for introducing young people in particular to classical music that they probably would otherwise ignore.

Beauty and the Beast never really grabbed me beyond it looking astonishing. I didn't find the story that engaging, which isn't helped by the fact that the Beast was hot and the transmogrified prince was butt ugly 

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<------ Do you see the screenname? 101 Dalmatians inspired me to be Spacedal(matian)11.

101 Dalmatians has been my favorite childhood movie for as long as I can remember. I have 3 versions of the original cartoon, the animated and live-action sequels, and even some episodes from the half-assed TV show.

And did I mention my mother's crazy 101 Dalmatian merchandise benge on eBay between 2003-2005? Yes. We have so many dalmatians coming out of our ass its unbelieveable.

Hell we even have a real dalmatian! The insanity of obsession that I might be putting off here is intense, I'll admit. Dalmatian lamps, blankest, toys, movie merchandise (we have the sweater used in 102 Dalmatians plus a puppie stand-in that they used too) ornaments, clothing (which I haven't worn since the 6th grade), pens, yo-yos(!), the list seriously goes on. And if I could stay I child forever, I would be ever so happy.

So thank you Disney for making my entire upstairs a complete homage to the fantastic animation in which you created.

(My favorite piece of propaganda that we own? Probably the McDonald's Dalmatian toys. You could buy boxes with all of them, and we have the original 101 & 102. Those were my Transformers/My Little Ponies back in the day).

I am a freak. 

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Originally posted by Spacedal11:
101 Dalmatians has been my favorite childhood movie for as long as I can remember.

Remember, who you are. You are my son, and the one true king..oops.
Hey...I remember the day the video came out of 101 Dalmations, my mum must've bought it for me while I was at school, and my friend came over, it was the end of the week and Easter was soon because we'd just got some Easter eggs that we'd ordered through a school thing...so my friend and I watched 101 Dalmations while snacking on chocolate goodies. Aww. What were we, 8? Label on the front says Entries close 31 May 1996 so...yeah, 8 turning 9. Hehehe....aww. I miss that. I can't believe there was a 1996! That was Pocahontas and Lion King...
On Sunday a group of six 20/21 year olds sat down and watched Beauty and the Beast, Tarzan and Bambi the whole afternoon. First time I'd see the Disney Tarzan actually. Quite amusing.

Anywho. I'm going to have to watch 101 Dalmations this week now. I don't remember the last time I saw it apart from leaning on the videocase right now but that doesn't count. Heh. VHS. What is this, the middle ages?!

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My faves are:

Alice In Wonderland
My fave ever Disney movie, one of my fave movies not just of Disney, but of anything! I always used to watch this as a kid and now I love watching it on DVD looking better than ever before. I just love this movie, the crazy characters and the whole weird journey and the 50's attitude of Alice and clothes. The Cheshire Cat, Queen of Hearts, Mad Hatter, so clool. Also the music is so catchy and really awesome...

Aladdin
Always loved this one, the comedy is great in this. Really fun. Eveerything in the cave of wonders is great, and Jafar has to be one of the best Disney villians. I also loved the game but that's different thing...

Treasure Planet
This is awesome, the characters are designed really well, the story is good and the animation is fantastic. It's just got a really clool vibe going on. Ben the robot is also a fantastic character...

edit - Special mention to the Rhapsody In Blue segment of Fantasia 2000. I love the style and animation and colors and just the whole segment of this!...

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My list:
 

Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
1.       Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs
2.       Pinocchio
3.       Fantasia
4.       Dumbo
5.       Bambi
6.       Saludos Amigos
7.       The Three Caballeros
8.       Make Mine Music
9.       Fun And Fancy Free
10.     Melody Time (I think...)
11.     The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad
12.     Cinderella
13.     Alice In Wonderland
14.     Peter Pan
15.     Lady And The Tramp
16.     Sleeping Beauty
17.     101 Dalmatians
18.     The Sword In The Stone
19.     The Jungle Book
20.     The Aristocats
21.     Robin Hood
22.     The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh
23.     The Rescuers
24.     The Fox And The Hound
25.     The Black Cauldron
26.     The Great Mouse Detective
27.     Oliver & Company
28.     The Little Mermaid
29.     The Rescuers Down Under
30.     Beauty And The Beast
31.     Aladdin
32.     The Lion King
33.     Pocahontas
34.     The Hunchback Of Notre Dame
35.     Hercules
36.     Mulan
37.     Tarzan
38.     Fantasia/2000
39.     The Emperor's New Groove
40.     Atlantis: The Lost Empire
41.     Lilo And Stitch
42.     Treasure Planet
43.     Brother Bear
44.     Home On The Range

The Little Mermaid was, I believe, the first movie I ever saw in a theater.  I was only three or four at the time, and I don't actually remember seeing the movie itself (just leaving the theater and being awed that it was so dark outside, because I'd never been out that late before), but it was one of my favorite movies as a kid.

I have very vidid memories of seeing Beauty and the Beast for the first time; Beast's "death" scene scared the crap out of me (the way his eyes roll into the back of his head... *shudder*) and even ten years later I had trouble watching that scene without closing my eyes.  I first realized that I loved animation while watching Aladdin, and I first realized just how powerful the medium could be when watching The Lion King (which to this day remains my favorite 2D Disney movie).  My mum bought almost all of the VHS tapes of the other movies as soon as they came out, and my siblings and I used to watch them ad nauseum when we were little.  I was personally fond of Robin Hood, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, The Sword in the Stone, The Jungle Book...

...Let's just say I was fond of them all at one point or another.

As much as it pains me to admit it, Disney played a significant role in my childhood.

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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
1.       Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs
2.       Pinocchio
3.       Fantasia
4.       Dumbo
5.       Bambi
6.       Saludos Amigos
7.       The Three Caballeros
8.       Make Mine Music
9.       Fun And Fancy Free
10.     Melody Time
11.     The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad
12.     Cinderella
13.     Alice In Wonderland
14.     Peter Pan
15.     Lady And The Tramp
16.     Sleeping Beauty
17.     101 Dalmatians
18.     The Sword In The Stone
19.     The Jungle Book
20.     The Aristocats
21.     Robin Hood
22.     The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh
23.     The Rescuers
24.     The Fox And The Hound
25.     The Black Cauldron
26.     The Great Mouse Detective
27.     Oliver & Company
28.     The Little Mermaid
29.     The Rescuers Down Under
30.     Beauty And The Beast
31.     Aladdin
32.     The Lion King
33.     Pocahontas
34.     The Hunchback Of Notre Dame
35.     Hercules
36.     Mulan
37.     Tarzan
38.     Fantasia/2000
39.     The Emperor's New Groove
40.     Atlantis: The Lost Empire
41.     Lilo And Stitch
42.     Treasure Planet
43.     Brother Bear
44.     Home On The Range


These movies are part of the tradition of Disney films.  I loved old Disney animated films.  I grew up with a VHS collection of most of these films.  I recently, found some of these old VHS movies and I started watching once a week.  I forgot hope Disney used to make animated films.  Cartoons today are just aren't as good as they were back they.

Which are some of your favorites?  I like a majority of these films.  The only thing I hate is the fact that Disney is making DVD sequels to most of these classic.  The only good one was Return of Jafar, but the rest after that sucked, since it was about making money instead of putting art and heart into the work.

In 2009, Disney will return back to 2-D animated filmmaking with THE FROG PRINCE and it will introduce Disney's first African American Princess.  I do hope it will be a good film and it carries on the tradition of Disney Animated Films.

What about Song of the South?

And I'm pretty sure they had another one that was like Melody Time, both had similar musical instruments on the cover, if memory serves.

My favorite Disney Movie is The Black Cauldron. But if you've read the real books, the movie is kinda lame. I also like The Little Mermaid a lot.

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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Aladdin
Always loved this one, the comedy is great in this. Really fun. Eveerything in the cave of wonders is great, and Jafar has to be one of the best Disney villians. I also loved the game but that's different thing...

Heh. Jafar. "Tonight the part of Al will be played by a tall, dark and sinister ugly man."

I always thought, when the Cave of Wonders went nuts "Infidels! You have touched the forbidden treasure! Rarrr!" that the lava-type stuff looked delicious. Like honeycomb...

Are you referring to the Supernintendo game? I think that's what it was, wasn't it? My friend had the console, she used to hire games for it, of course Aladdin, she loved that film more than me, and recently she went hunting for the Aladdin game to buy but when she got it it was for playing on a different country's console or something. Pfft.

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Originally posted by VelourFog:
 What about Song of the South?

And I'm pretty sure they had another one that was like Melody Time, both had similar musical instruments on the cover, if memory serves.

Song of the South is not part of the Disney animated library.  It's more live action with animated sequences.  Don't ask me why, because I didn't make that rule.  I wish Disney would release on DVD, but most people say it's considered racist.  I wish I could see it and judge for myself.

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Originally posted by any1else:
 

Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Aladdin
Always loved this one, the comedy is great in this. Really fun. Eveerything in the cave of wonders is great, and Jafar has to be one of the best Disney villians. I also loved the game but that's different thing...

Heh. Jafar. "Tonight the part of Al will be played by a tall, dark and sinister ugly man."

I always thought, when the Cave of Wonders went nuts "Infidels! You have touched the forbidden treasure! Rarrr!" that the lava-type stuff looked delicious. Like honeycomb...

Are you referring to the Supernintendo game? I think that's what it was, wasn't it? My friend had the console, she used to hire games for it, of course Aladdin, she loved that film more than me, and recently she went hunting for the Aladdin game to buy but when she got it it was for playing on a different country's console or something. Pfft.

I had it on the Amiga 1200 but yeah it's exactly the same game. Think it was on Sega too. Awesome game, one of the best movie to videogame adaptations I can think of...

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I went to  Thrift store the other and bought a whole bunch of Disney VHS movie for like $0.99 each.  I saw Pinocchio for the first time in over 10 years.  I used to have it on VHS, but I lost it.  What was interesting this VHS had a small special on the making of Pinocchio.

After Snow White's success, Disney didn't know what to do.  He was asked by Hollywood to do another movie about Dwarfs movie, but he said that was unoriginal and decided to do Pinocchio.  I guess the Disney Company today wasn't listening.

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Has anyone noticed that in the Disney short "Boat Builders" (from 1938, I think) Donald Duck completely rips-off Indiana Jones' signature move?

I saw the cartoon in question when I went to see "Meet the Robinsons". It involves Mickey, Donald, and Goofy building a kit-set boat. Early on they're all trying to pry off the side of a large wooden crate which donald is at the base of. As it starts to fall Donald has to run out of the way to avoid having it land on him but in his haste his hat falls to the ground. When he spots this he very hurredly darts back under the toppling wall, grabs his hat, and dashes back out again, puting it on as he runs.

I knew Walt was a visionary but I *never* would have believed that he would use his foresight to take moves like Indy's 'reaching back under the descending door to grab his hat' gag from 40-odd years in the future and insert a poorly disguised imitation in one of his cartoons for cheap laughs.

Boy, was I mad. My indignation level was so high it must have blanked it from my memory until seeing this thread brought it all back again.

Unless... Hmmm... perhaps Walt had the code for the future-going time sphere (cf Bender's Big Score for the past-going one) which would make it alright, I suppose. Wouldn't it? Now I'm confused. Ow, my brain hurts!

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...you were watching a Disney cartoon.

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Touché

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I just saw Oliver and Company and I loved the two songs "Once Upon A Time In New York City" and "We Should I Worry".  Billy Joel as Dodger was a good choice.  Though, this film probably doesn't have iconic scenes like old Disney movies, I though Oliver and Company was a good watch.

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Pinocchio is out on Plantinum DVD.  It makes a fine addition to my Disney Collection.  I suggest if you love this film, get it quick while it's $19.99.  It's going up to $29.99 in a week or so and then Disney will pull it and put it back in the vault for maybe 10 plus years.

I also got Bambi and it's awesome.  I've been searching for it, but it's so pricey because Disney put it in the vault.

Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs will be coming out of the vault after 7 years.  I hope to get my copy on DVD.

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I bought a Bambi a few years back. I felt Pinocchio kinda sucked and I have Oliver and Company on VHS it was meh.

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I haven't seen many Disney movies outside of the '90s "Renaissance" stuff, but here's a Top Five type thing...

1. The Little Mermaid: This will always be my favorite Disney movie. I think it's got a fantastic soundtrack, and the character animation (especially in the second half of the movie, when Ariel's all mute and stuff) is particularly well-done. The part of me that's no longer three years old (a.k.a., the part of me that's an annoying-ass feminist) has kind of an objection to the whole "Oh, I must have the prince, I love him, I just met him but I know he's my soulmate, and I'm gonna give up my beautiful voice so I can have legs and, you know, make lots of human babies" theme--but, overall, it's an engaging story, and I can appreciate it in the sense that it's a fairy tale that's meant for fun.

2. Hercules: I think it's the funniest Disney movie, with one of the strongest heroines (actually, I think Meg's a more interesting character than Herc himself). The writing is suprisingly good, on-par with that of a live-action comedy. Oh, and James Woods is fucking hysterical.

3. The Hunchback of Notre Dame: Definitely the ballsiest thing Disney's ever done. The writing's great, and the soundtrack's dynamic, and Phoebus is most definitely my cartoon boyfriend. Which is kind of sad.

4. Beauty and the Beast: I didn't much care for this movie when I was younger, but I saw it again recently, and it really is impressive. Great songs, great writing, all that jazz.

5. Aladdin: Another movie that's just really funny.

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3. The Hunchback of Notre Dame: Definitely the ballsiest thing Disney's ever done.

Oh?  Which part?  The part where they changed the ending so that everybody lives, or the part where Esmerelda ends up with Phoebus instead of with Quasimodo?

Yeah, apparently the message of the Disney version is that if you're ugly you can still have friends, but the girl you like will still pick the handsome guy over you.

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My favourite is Lilo & Stitch, but I also liked the fox and the hound and lady and the tramp.

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Oh?  Which part?  The part where they changed the ending so that everybody lives, or the part where Esmerelda ends up with Phoebus instead of with Quasimodo?

Yeah, apparently the message of the Disney version is that if you're ugly you can still have friends, but the girl you like will still pick the handsome guy over you.

Hey, I didn't say it was the most faithful adaptation Disney's ever done. I think it's possible to consider the book and the movie to be two completely different entitites, in which case Disney's version is a cruddy adaptation, but a pretty daring movie nonetheless. Frollo is one of the creepiest Disney villains ever, and the movie tackles subjects (albeit, mostly subtly) like infanticide, prejudice, perversion, and, you know, killin' stuff. I agree that it would've given them a lot more street-cred if they'd stayed faithful to the book, but I think the movie holds up regardless.

And, to be fair, this movie has a better message than a lot of other Disney movies. Even "Beauty and the Beast", which is arguably the most well-regarded Disney movie, implies that people will fall in love with you when you're a hideous beast, so long as you've got a good heart--but you can only really get your happy ending once you're a pretty-boy again. Granted, that's a cynical way to look at it, but I think that interpretation has merit.

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1.       Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs -Vaguely remember it, classic story.
2.       Pinocchio - Liked it a lot but haven't seen for years.
3.       Fantasia - Haven't seen.
4.       Dumbo - Only remember some short disney book made after the movie.
5.       Bambi - Must see again as I don't really remember it.
6.       Saludos Amigos - Have not seen.
7.       The Three Caballeros - Might have read about them in a Don Rosa story, but I might easily be mistaken.
8.       Make Mine Music - What?
9.       Fun And Fancy Free - ?
10.     Melody Time - Huh?
11.     The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad - Don' know that one either :S
12.     Cinderella - I have got to see this one again, I remember it as very good.[7i]
13.     Alice In Wonderland - Got to see again too, very good and colourful.
14.     Peter Pan - Absolutely brilliant, got to see it again though.
15.     Lady And The Tramp - Loved it, probably the only movie on here that I have on DVD and I am going to watch it again soon.
16.     Sleeping Beauty - Never seen.
17.     101 Dalmatians - LOVITT!
18.     The Sword In The Stone Only seen a newer version of the same story, not even sure if it was Disney.
19.     The Jungle Book - It was fine, just not my type of movie.
20.     The Aristocats - Don't think I saw that.
21.     Robin Hood - Haven't seen either :|
22.     The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh - Not seen.
23.     The Rescuers - Saw a rescuers movie that I liked.
24.     The Fox And The Hound - Always wanted to see it but never got around to it.
25.     The Black Cauldron - If it's the movie that I think it is then I really like it.
26.     The Great Mouse Detective - Don't remember, think I never saw it all.
27.     Oliver & Company - Think I saw it, but might be confusing it with Hugo.
28.     The Little Mermaid - GOOOD!
29.     The Rescuers Down Under - Oh, this is the rescuers movie that I saw, and really liked.
30.     Beauty And The Beast - Only saw a part of it, no opinion.
31.     Aladdin - Good, great songs, good.
32.     The Lion King - PURE AWE!
33.     Pocahontas - Good, good and ummm... good.
34.     The Hunchback Of Notre Dame - Brilliant, really love it.
35.     Hercules - Great, funny, exciting, and good songs.
36.     Mulan - It's good, and I think it's also good.
37.     Tarzan - Good songs, good story and just a good movie.
38.     Fantasia/2000 - Saw a part of it, no opinion
39.     The Emperor's New Groove - I thought it was really good, and funny.
40.     Atlantis: The Lost Empire - I love this movie and I've definetely seen it more than 6 times.
41.     Lilo And Stitch - Meh...
42.     Treasure Planet - It was alright, of what I remember.
43.     Brother Bear - Fine, tells the story which could have been funner.
44.     Home On The Range - Haven't seen and have no intention on seeing

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Long post.

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but you can only really get your happy ending once you're a pretty-boy again.

Other way around, actually.  He only gets to be a pretty-boy again after he gets his happy ending.  Granted, it's not as strong a message as say, the ending of Shreck, but Belle does fall in love with the Beast as a beast.  If Belle had been like Esmerelda, she would have told the Beast that she wanted to "just be friends" and then he would have died and his servants would have been stuck as furniture for ever.

As for creepiest Disney villain, I'd have to go with either Maleficent or the Horned King.  Frollo's not even in the same league.

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Other way around, actually.  He only gets to be a pretty-boy again after he gets his happy ending.  Granted, it's not as strong a message as say, the ending of Shreck, but Belle does fall in love with the Beast as a beast.  If Belle had been like Esmerelda, she would have told the Beast that she wanted to "just be friends" and then he would have died and his servants would have been stuck as furniture for ever.

I guess what I'm saying is that it would've sent a much more powerful message if the Beast had stayed, y'know, beastly. That Belle fell in love with him as a beast is great and all, and I guess it would've been unsatisfying if he and the servants hadn't become human again--but that still plays into the generic Disney happy ending, where everyone is pretty and in love. Hunchback sends a powerful message in that, even though Quasimodo doesn't get the girl, he's still a hero; it's a happy ending. The movie is about him experiencing life, being an active participant--it's more about him breaking free of Frollo's control than it is about anything else. It's not about him falling in love with a woman who rejects him (though I agree that Esmerelda winding up with Phoebus kind of panders to the audience, I don't view it as a character flaw on her part, or contradictory to the movie's "moral" or whatever you want to call it). I don't think the intended message is, "Oh, he's ugly so he'll never find love." More like, "This guy kicked some serious ass and proved himself to be a truly great human being."

And, to clarify, I meant that the movie was ballsy in the sense that it was much darker than what Disney usually produces. I agree that it's a poor adaptation, and that, in one way, it conforms to the stud-gets-the-babe mold, but I still admire it on its own merits, or at least what I see as merits.   

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And, to clarify, I meant that the movie was ballsy in the sense that it was much darker than what Disney usually produces.

Maybe by recent standards.  Classic Disney films like Snow White and Sleeping Beauty had some pretty dark stuff in them.  And then there's The Black Cauldron, a film that had to have scenes removed to avoid a PG-13 rating.

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I saw a live action version of Alice in Wonderland. The plot was slightly different, and because of that it was the first time I saw a metronome. Not that it matters.

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The Little Mermaid is my fave.

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I think the little mermaid was the first movie I ever saw at the cinema.

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1.       Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs
2.       Pinocchio
3.       Fantasia
4.       Dumbo
5.       Bambi
6.       Saludos Amigos
7.       The Three Caballeros
8.       Make Mine Music
9.       Fun And Fancy Free
10.     Melody Time
11.     The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad
12.     Cinderella
13.     Alice In Wonderland
14.     Peter Pan
15.     Lady And The Tramp
16.     Sleeping Beauty
17.     101 Dalmatians
18.     The Sword In The Stone
19.     The Jungle Book
20.     The Aristocats
21.     Robin Hood
22.     The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh
23.     The Rescuers
24.     The Fox And The Hound
25.     The Black Cauldron
26.     The Great Mouse Detective
27.     Oliver & Company
28.     The Little Mermaid
29.     The Rescuers Down Under
30.     Beauty And The Beast
31.     Aladdin
32.     The Lion King
33.     Pocahontas
34.     The Hunchback Of Notre Dame
35.     Hercules
36.     Mulan
37.     Tarzan
38.     Fantasia/2000
39.     The Emperor's New Groove
40.     Atlantis: The Lost Empire
41.     Lilo And Stitch
42.     Treasure Planet
43.     Brother Bear
44.     Home On The Range

I absolutely love Disney Animation Featured. It's what gotten my interested in animation in the first place...    And I can't wait for Disney's upcoming "The Princess and The Frog". It's high time Disney realises that 2D animation is still one of the best medium and not just copying what everyone else's is doing. 

But out of all the characters from Disney, I heart Donald Duck soooo much~! 

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