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Xanfor

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« on: 02-16-2008 11:22 »



Such a dilemma! Tomorrow at nine: It's either this or part two of Masterpiece Theatre's Pride and Prejudice!

Oh, cruel fate, don't make me choose!
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« Reply #1 on: 02-16-2008 14:29 »

Pride and Prejudice?  Pffft; big deal, it's not even a consideration.  How could you even consider watching some 18th century cryfest to miss this car?

Just as long as there's no Hasselhoff Evil Twin in this one...
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« Reply #2 on: 02-16-2008 19:27 »

An ugly (at least in my opinion) KITT and no Hoff...


Um... I think I'll choose Pride and Prejudice...
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« Reply #3 on: 02-16-2008 19:42 »

<---- (points avatar)


I kinda like this new KITT  :D

(ironic mode off)
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« Reply #4 on: 02-16-2008 20:08 »

A 'Stang, eh?
Pontiac must be rolling in its shoddy low-quality grave.
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« Reply #5 on: 02-17-2008 21:13 »
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If it's not voiced by Mr. Pheeny, then it's not Knight Rider.

Also:



Coincidence?  I think NOT!
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« Reply #6 on: 02-17-2008 23:14 »

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« Reply #7 on: 02-19-2008 23:50 »

 
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Coincidence?  I think NOT!


Its a well known fact where both the moving red light and its sound of it moving came from..

some people even went to far to sugesting that KITT is in reallity made from a Cylon that crashed in earth...

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« Reply #8 on: 02-20-2008 23:09 »

Oh Xanfor!!!! You started a thread that has piqued my interest. However, I will rant positiveness more of the old thread than the new movie/pilot.

Firstly, they killed it by using a Mustang. Personally I'm offended (and I'm quite sure Knight Industires Two Thousand is too) by this, not being a fan of Ford. Not that I despise them quite as much as Chevy (there's two sitting in the garage... I have to like Ford or suck it up). My take on Knight3000 was something familiar, but a familiar that seemed....not so great. K3000 (as it will henceforth be called in this post) was merely a non-feeling machine which asked obvious questions and stated obvious answers. At one question, Mike Tracer replies exactly how I would: in a sarcastic tone that implies that you've just stated the obvious. with his line of "No, ya think!?"

In many ways, the K3000 fails to live up to anything more than a poser in my eyes for many reasons. During the whole movie, all the car did was race around the contry changing it's colors to happy gay purple. The way K3000 acts is almost too reminicent to that of KARR, who was a prototype of KITT *pokes my avatar*. Wizzing through traffic was hardly something that'd keep anyone safe, and of course they can say it all they want, but I felt that if it drives that close to a mountain edge and drives like a maniac to get away from bad guys, then it's endangering to some extent, even with it's calculations, just like KARR was. All about himself and his passengers and nobody else.

What bugged me the most about it was the fact they ditched Turbo Boost. And every other cool gadget...and replaced it with..... nanotech? Sure it sounds cool, but hell, without the computer on, that damn thing doesn't work worth a crap, so you can't save yourself anyways. The car also becomes manual driver. Literally.

This is proved when Mike tries to stop the bad guys in the big touch Chevy 'Burban. With the computer off, nothing is available. So when someone shoots at you....windows shatter. Design flaw much? But yet, at the same time, when you ram someone, not a scratch gets on the body. It's self contradictory to itself. I also wonder why only two survived that crash in the same scene that should have totally killed everyone in the car. But yet the nerd dies and the guy that got shot in the head, but the main baddie lives and the father of the girl seeking Mike's help? Nonsensical I say!

Now, this may be long, and you may have skipped all the rest. Basically, this movie/pilot/whatever the hell you wanna call it was too dark and seemed to kinda go in circles. Get in the car, get out, get sought out by the bad guys, bad guys find you, run away, they follow, you get away by color changing, switch back, rinse and repeat. I also feel the whole "I'm your father" bit felt a bit non-cannonical.... Knight only wanted to marry Stevie in the series, a blond-haired girl whom he was engaged to before being shot in the face, etc.
I'm not saying this movie fails like the concept of Team Knight Rider, but overall it was like a Ford commercial that didn't have a trace of the original series' charm, or really the concept  of it. "One man can make a difference."

Ok, I'll stop here. Xanfor, anything from you? (Yeah, I go real deep into this one)
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« Reply #9 on: 02-20-2008 23:17 »

Aww, those droopy eyelid-type things over the headlights make him look like a sad widdle bear...

Cheer up, KITT!
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« Reply #10 on: 02-21-2008 00:26 »

Can anyone guess which part of the "movie" made me scream out "PHYSICS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!  GOODNIGHT!"?
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« Reply #11 on: 02-21-2008 06:33 »

 
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some people even went to far to suggesting that KITT is in reality made from a Cylon that crashed in earth...

KITT is the last of the Final Five!

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« Reply #12 on: 02-21-2008 16:53 »

 
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Can anyone guess which part of the "movie" made me scream out "PHYSICS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!  GOODNIGHT!"?

Hmmm.... I'll give it a go. Was it the whole thing?
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« Reply #13 on: 02-21-2008 20:10 »
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Well, yeah.

But I was more thinking of how the car got t-boned by a freaking GMC Denali AND DIDN'T MOVE.  I don't care about your nanotechnology, that car should be fifty yards down the road!  NANOBOTS DO NOT ELIMINATE TRANSFER OF MOMENTUM!
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« Reply #14 on: 02-22-2008 01:54 »
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Originally posted by Professor Zoidy:What bugged me the most about it was the fact they ditched Turbo Boost. And every other cool gadget...and replaced it with..... nanotech? Sure it sounds cool, but hell, without the computer on, that damn thing doesn't work worth a crap, so you can't save yourself anyways. The car also becomes manual driver. Literally.

This is proved when Mike tries to stop the bad guys in the big touch Chevy 'Burban. With the computer off, nothing is available. So when someone shoots at you....windows shatter. Design flaw much? But yet, at the same time, when you ram someone, not a scratch gets on the body. It's self contradictory to itself. I also wonder why only two survived that crash in the same scene that should have totally killed everyone in the car. But yet the nerd dies and the guy that got shot in the head, but the main baddie lives and the father of the girl seeking Mike's help? Nonsensical I say!

Hmm...unsafe at any processor speed.
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« Reply #15 on: 02-22-2008 22:27 »

 
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  Hmm...unsafe at any processor speed.

More or less, it is!

@Nix: That was my second non-semi-sarcastic answer of choice. They'll try and reason with you...

You: "So, why didn't the car move? It's basic physics!
Writers: "Because... Nanobots do everything.."
You: "No they-"
Writers: "Shhhh! It's magic!"
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« Reply #16 on: 02-22-2008 22:41 »

Nixorbo: Maybe the car contains parts made of Neutronium? I hear there's a surplus available in the Pegasus galaxy, in deposits on earth-like worlds, apparently...  :)
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« Reply #17 on: 02-22-2008 23:24 »

You guys are looking for Logical reasons.  Don't you know that everything that can't be explained in real terms is the work of Dark Wizards?
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« Reply #18 on: 02-23-2008 11:13 »

Maybe the car was just running Physics Vista.
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« Reply #19 on: 02-23-2008 20:29 »

 
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Maybe the car was just running Physics Vista.

But, wouldn't that be a pain in the ass to run and impossible to use in a flash if you're not familiar with it?  ;)
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« Reply #20 on: 03-07-2008 04:55 »

I happened onto a nostalgia TV channel, and they were playing the Knight Rider episode with Hasselhoff's "evil twin".  Quite possibly the cheesiest tv episode ever; about the only cliche his "evil twin" didn't attempt was to twirl his moustache & demonically laugh "Mu-a-hahahaha"...
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« Reply #21 on: 03-07-2008 20:28 »

Well, that's the 80s for ya. Michael Knight was modelled after the evil Garthe Knight because Wilton Knight thoguht him to be dead prior to the events that occured to Michael Long. This will confuse anyone but people who've actually seen the first episode as well as the evil and if you understand my logic.
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« Reply #22 on: 03-07-2008 20:31 »

I choose Pride and Prejudice. That's why I haven't gotten back here yet.

A friend of mine recorded it though, so I may be back if I deem it worth a mention.
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« Reply #23 on: 03-10-2008 13:00 »

This is on NBC.com and Hulu (which is how I saw it), and I found it to be...fine. Nothing particularly amazing, although it did have a fewdramatic act breaks.
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« Reply #24 on: 03-10-2008 18:35 »

The nanobots clearly re-populated themselves to exponential degrees in an instant when the car got t-boned.  This made the density of the entire car far greater, so great in fact, that it is impenetrable to scratches and will not fly 50 feet down the road.  After the Nanotech™ finishes its process of Density-Sensitive-Protection™ (DSP™) it flushes a majority of the Nanopartics™ out through the NanoparticDispenser™.... there they float up into the atmosphere and eat away at the ozone....

Durr... that's what happened.... durrrrrrr.....  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #25 on: 03-21-2008 22:17 »
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just watched it now..

it went better than expected.. the first hald was great.. but the later half was a bit lacking.. great the Michael cameo..  a bit dissapointing the new "truck" .. it may fly but i was especting something more classic..
the CGI could be better.. there was many times that the car just screamed CGI out lout in non-necesary places.. like when KITT enters Las Vegas (the shot to in-car) and in the final U-turn .. they could have perfectly done it for real and simply add the plane wich was CGI anyways..

And i agree that myself ended up screaming "Phisycs dont work like that!" ..they could have explained in far more ways.. for example the original Trans-Am KITT had spikes on the wheels.. maybe nanos create spikes and glue the car to the road.. but KITT didnt knew what Mike was planing so thats out of the question..

The car is great.. i love Stangs so i can get acostume to it.. and it was great the glances at the old Trans-Am in the Charles garaje..

I dont like the total lack of explaining of what happened to the Fundation, what happened to Devon Mails(*) and what happened to the old KITT.. ir is the computer the same in the new 3000...
Does the 3000 have turbo-boost?

(*)-Yes.. i know that Devon got killed in KR2000 ... but its that "canon" with the new series? what spin-offs like KR2010 or Team KR are canon with the new series?
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« Reply #26 on: 03-29-2008 15:32 »

 
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Does the 3000 have turbo-boost?

No, the KR3000 lacks Turbo Boost because they thought they'd try to make it fast by pulling out that nano-tech card again I'm sure...  :nono:   :rolleyes:
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« Reply #27 on: 03-29-2008 16:20 »

What we need to know is, was there an evil twin involved in this episode?

A Knight Rider episode without an evil twin is like a day without sunshine...
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« Reply #28 on: 03-29-2008 21:00 »

No evil twin yet..

I still wonder if the KR2000 AI is fitted in the KR3000 or if they are separated "entities"

Acording to the wiki.. this 2008 relaunch voids the Knight Rider 2000 and 2010 and "KR team" .. so if the do the series i hope they explain about Devon... because Michael is still arround
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« Reply #29 on: 04-06-2008 17:32 »
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Yes, but remember that the man who actually played Devon Miles (Edward Mulhare) died back in 1997 of cancer if my memory serves correct from that Wikipedia article... That's good the new movie does some justice in voiding those movies and that TKR bit...

Anyways, if they did continue this as a series, they'd need to explain more than just where Devon is. They'd need to tell us what Bonnie's up to. Oh, and based off all the data I gathered from the movie, K3000 isn't made from KITT. He seems more like another KARR failure. I wouldn't doubt if the car turns on Mike... All I could say is... I TOLD YA SO!!!
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« Reply #30 on: 04-07-2008 13:58 »

 
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Yes, but remember that the man who actually played Devon Miles (Edward Mulhare) died back in 1997 of cancer if my memory serves correct from that Wikipedia article... That's good the new movie does some justice in voiding those movies and that TKR bit...

Anyways, if they did continue this as a series, they'd need to explain more than just where Devon is. They'd need to tell us what Bonnie's up to. Oh, and based off all the data I gathered from the movie, K3000 isn't made from KITT. He seems more like another KARR failure. I wouldn't doubt if the car turns on Mike... All I could say is... I TOLD YA SO!!!

Yes.. i know Edward Mulhare died 11 years ago..what i meant.. since he cant come back.. and this movie voids KR2000 (within itself) they should provide a reason why there is no FLAG now and what happened to Devon.. some explanation why this guy took the torch of Devon with no mention of him

Bonnie and RC alusions would be great too..
And i found disgusting swaping the semi for a  Hercules.. ok they cant do it if its international or long distance travel.. but the semi was far better choice.. what kind of cover is a C-130 flying arround at 1m releasing a car? the semi was so much better fitting

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« Reply #31 on: 04-09-2008 19:25 »

Your telling me. I mean, what'll it do, drop the car like a bomb? Will the car magically have parachutes that lower it to safety in areas without landing pads? I feel for ya on the semi issue.
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« Reply #32 on: 04-15-2008 03:15 »

Its windscreen wipers are evil
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« Reply #33 on: 04-17-2008 21:54 »
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Its windscreen wipers are evil

Well, there is that little issue.   ;) It didn't come up much in the show though.
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« Reply #34 on: 04-19-2008 22:41 »

Evil wipers aside, the one question America wants to know is, has there been a Hasselhoff evil twin yet in this show?
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« Reply #35 on: 04-23-2008 19:58 »

 
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Evil wipers aside, the one question America wants to know is, has there been a Hasselhoff evil twin yet in this show?

If by "Show" you mean the movie, then no. It was only a movie as far as I know, and not a series pilot unless that's coming later or something.

Interesting tidbit, I dreamt I was tinkering with and then driving Knight Industries Two Thousand... Ah, how I love thee without the three thousand crapping it up and making me hesitate to use the abberviation of your name in fear I'm referring to the newbie[/rant]...
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« Reply #36 on: 06-03-2008 20:05 »

Cruel fate! I've bumped an ancient wonder! But I come with confirmatinal news that this will be a new TV series starting next fall. Why must thou be-ist so cruel to me NBC?
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« Reply #37 on: 06-10-2008 00:06 »

 
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A friend of mine recorded it though, so I may be back if I deem it worth a mention.

So, now I'm back, and I have summed up my feelings regarding New Knight.

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« Reply #38 on: 06-10-2008 15:33 »
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Well.. aparently series has been green lighted and is due to launch late 2008
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« Reply #39 on: 06-14-2008 18:30 »

 
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 So, now I'm back, and I have summed up my feelings regarding New Knight.

Very well put sir! I clap for you!  :)
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