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JoshTheater

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« Reply #400 on: 10-01-2013 07:22 »
« Last Edit on: 10-01-2013 07:33 »

I hope Huell eventually got out of that motel room so he can appear on it...

BCS will take place before Breaking Bad. Think about it. It just wouldn't be as much fun watching Saul "managing a Cinnabon".
... no... no, I guess not. frown
I hope Huell and the ginger lad come back though.

Well, Huell was a new hire by Saul in season 4 (he wanted a bodyguard after Mike threatened to break his legs at the end of season 3), so it wouldn't really make sense to see him in Better Call Saul since, like tnuk said, it takes place before the events of Breaking Bad. It would be great to see Bill Burr (the ginger lad, and also my favorite stand-up comedian) as a regular character though, especially considering that the show is supposed to be more comedic. We don't see him until season 4 but I don't think they ever imply that he and Saul weren't associates before then. Also, Mike could easily be a character on the show, which would be very welcome.

I was also thinking about the possibility of the show using being a prequel as an opportunity to have Gus on the show, and to explore his backstory more and maybe even show us him building his empire. I know he and Saul didn't directly work together but they were linked through Mike, and we don't know what the format of the show will be yet so it's possible it could explore different characters' storylines. I guess it really depends on whether they decide to go full comedy with the show, or have it be a comedy that still has a lot of dramatic elements like Weeds or Orange Is The New Black. Breaking Bad was one of the darkest shows on television but still managed to be very comedic at times, so I don't see why they couldn't pull off the opposite.

TOTP relevant funny sketch video
Beamer

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« Reply #401 on: 10-01-2013 07:29 »

Just because Huell wasn't working for him up until that point before doesn't mean he wasn't an associate of Saul either. Perhaps he had to hire him at a previous point in time for another incident, or at least meets him in Better Call Saul. Doesn't seem to ruin anything as far as I'm aware.

Also, I only just realized that pretty much every actor who worked under Saul's employ (including Odenkirk himself, of course) comes from a stand-up comedy background.
JoshTheater

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« Reply #402 on: 10-01-2013 07:31 »

David Cross should be on the show. smile
winna

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« Reply #403 on: 10-01-2013 08:09 »

And the show should be called Mr. Show with Bob and David.  With blackjack and hookers.

Forget the hookers... in fact, forget the show.  A sex tape with Bob Odenkirk and David Cross.  Dead being mutilated and used as sexual satisfaction by necrophiliacs.

Or at least a fanfiction of that nature.

Eh forget the whole thing... but probably keep the fanfiction. hmpf
any1else

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« Reply #404 on: 10-01-2013 15:24 »

So.... you want us to read your fanfic?
Beamer

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« Reply #405 on: 10-01-2013 18:54 »

Either that, or he wants us to watch Mr. Show.

Both are pretty viable options, to be honest. smile
AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #406 on: 10-09-2013 16:51 »

Despite being a predictable series finale, I really enjoyed it. I think Season 5 might be the best season of Breaking Bad overall. The only weak-ish episode of 5B was Rabid Dog, but 5A does have a few slow episodes. The whole series was excellent though and I'm glad I started watching it last year and finished the ride on the day the final episode aired.
Beamer

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« Reply #407 on: 10-09-2013 17:24 »

Being somewhat predictable doesn't mean it was dissatisfying in any way, though. I'd take a great ending that I saw coming over a bad ending that I didn't, any day.
coldangel

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« Reply #408 on: 10-10-2013 08:45 »

Predictable?! I never saw Walter's death coming.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #409 on: 10-10-2013 13:34 »

The more I think about it, the more I wish that they'd gone with their Walter is the only man standing idea, where everyone else dies.

That'd be comeuppance for everyone complaining that he more or less got away with his actions.

And it'd speak to my Twilight-Zone-desire for dark, ironic endings.

Anyway, that's not to say that "Felina" wasn't excellent.
Beamer

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« Reply #410 on: 10-10-2013 14:30 »
« Last Edit on: 10-10-2013 14:32 »

Predictable?! I never saw Walter's death coming.

Really? The man's head a death warrant hanging over his head since the pilot. You honestly never contemplated at any point that the series would be likely to end that way?

But, more importantly, when I used the word "predictable," it was in reference to the fact that a lot of the online community guessed most of the plot turns before it aired. The risin ending up in Lydia's tea, Walter seeking out Gretchen and Elliott as a means to get the money to his family, Walter realising Jesse was cooking upon seeing the meth then taking pity on him upon seeing the condition the nazis had him in, the fact that the guns he purchased in 501 were for vengeance on the nazis, etc.

I'm just saying, it hit almost all the beats I thought (and hoped) it would. For a show that was constantly kept me guessing as a viewer, Felina simply doesn't rank among the show's most surprising episodes. It doesn't make it ANY less satisfying, though. As an ending, it was practically perfect. smile
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #411 on: 10-10-2013 17:39 »

Yeah, I have to agree.

From the pilot, several things are obviously going to happen later in the show. One is that Hank will find out that Walt is cooking meth. The other is that Walt is probably going to die somehow in the last episode - although, as the show progressed, I began to think that maybe he wouldn't because it was too obvious. That said, once we got back to the back 9, it seemed pretty clear that he would most likely die. The only other real option was for him to survive the episode, only to presumably succumb to his cancer a few months down the line.
tyraniak

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« Reply #412 on: 10-10-2013 19:34 »

The only way to have him not have cancer and hank not find out probably would've been to end the show at season 4
FishyJoe

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« Reply #413 on: 10-10-2013 22:33 »

There's a finite amount of logical endings. With the amount of speculation online about the show, people were bound to "guess" the story at some point or another.

With Walt, he would either live through the final episode, or he would die. If half the people speculated that he would live and half the people speculated that he would die, that doesn't mean it was "predictable" that he died just because some people guessed it. The only way to make the show unpredictable would be to come up with something completely outta left field, like "he was already dead, he was a ghost for the entire series" which would have satisfied exactly nobody.

I am very happy with the logical ending that we got.

Also, even though it was obvious that Walt would go back and fight the neo-nazi's, I was still left wondering up until the final episode why he would decide to go back. "Why would he go back to rescue Jesse? They hate each other now..." It was actually pretty clever that part of his reason for going back was to kill Jesse.

The more I think about it, the more I like the ending. It was perfect. I wouldn't have changed a single thing about it.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #414 on: 10-10-2013 22:56 »

It was basically a 50/50 toss up as to whether or not he'd die in the finale and I think anybody who'd seen all of the previous episodes was well aware of that.

Point being that it shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone that he died in the end because everyone should have been very well prepared for how likely it was that he was going to.
Beamer

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« Reply #415 on: 10-11-2013 02:41 »

Even the writers said they'd tossed up between whether or not they were going to kill Walt in the end, purely because it didn't seem to make a whole lot of difference one way or the other. The death of Walt was ultimately not as significant as the death of Heisenberg a few episodes earlier... Everything that came after Ozymandias was more-or-less an epilogue, narrative-wise.
coldangel

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« Reply #416 on: 10-11-2013 08:24 »

Predictable?! I never saw Walter's death coming.

Really? The man's head a death warrant hanging over his head since the pilot. You honestly never contemplated at any point that the series would be likely to end that way?

No, and nor am I a sarcastic arsehole. Not even a little bit.
Beamer

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« Reply #417 on: 10-11-2013 09:43 »

I am the one who mocks.
coldangel

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« Reply #418 on: 10-13-2013 14:01 »

i c wot u did their
Beamer

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« Reply #419 on: 10-17-2013 02:04 »

Vince Gilligan has confirmed that Better Call Saul will have cameos from other Breaking Bad characters. smile
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #420 on: 10-17-2013 02:47 »

He's confirmed that it will probably have cameos from other characters.
Beamer

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« Reply #421 on: 10-17-2013 03:08 »

Given how vast the world of Breaking Bad was, I'm confident enough that we can pretty much take it as a given.
tyraniak

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« Reply #422 on: 10-17-2013 03:26 »

Since mike was already his pi that's the most obvious, but to have Walt show up would make no sense at all
Beamer

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« Reply #423 on: 10-17-2013 04:23 »

Assuming the cast is expanded beyond Saul, they could definitely get away with a little cameo in which Walt interacts with another character. Or perhaps even just a small run-in with one another that'd be too insignificant for them to have remembered each other in Breaking Bad (like the various brief run-ins characters had in Lost's flashbacks).

Vince cares too much about Breaking Bad's narrative to actively destroy it, so I'm sure any cameos like this would be little winks to the audience as opposed to anything major.
JoshTheater

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« Reply #424 on: 10-17-2013 06:05 »

I'd be psyched to see Mike, Gus, or Bill Burr.
Beamer

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« Reply #425 on: 10-17-2013 06:26 »

Mike could easily be a recurring character seeing as he clearly had an existing relationship with Saul when he was introduced. I'd be down with that. big grin
tyraniak

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« Reply #426 on: 11-08-2013 18:10 »

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/05/breaking-bad-spinoff-better-call-saul-may-be-a-sequel-prequel-hybrid
pumpkinpie

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« Reply #427 on: 11-25-2013 05:21 »

THIS SHOW IS AMAZINVYFYYGJGYFTDTYCKIHUGYXK OJASR


Halfway through season 3. Started on the 6th of November
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #428 on: 11-25-2013 05:23 »

Hah. Pumpkin just wait until the final episodes.

Season 3 is nothing.
Super Hans

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« Reply #429 on: 11-26-2013 18:12 »

I would love if they had an extra episode hidden away somewhere, just for reactions etc. and to close some of the gaping loopholes. Huell, Saul, Brock, Jessie, Skylar, Marie et al. - see what they think after finding out about Walt.

Perhaps even see to medics reviving Walt and tacking on a few more series. Would definitely get the audiences imo
totalnerduk

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« Reply #430 on: 11-26-2013 22:41 »

Perhaps even see to medics reviving Walt and tacking on a few more series.

So, you'd ruin an ending that wasn't far short of perfect just for the sake of... what? Seeing Walt recap his adventures for a jury? Seeing him die of cancer in a prison cell? He'd lost absolutely everything, and had nothing to live for anymore. If he hadn't died, he'd have committed suicide.

The characters around Walt lack any clear source of nucleation without him. It's clear that there's a rift between Skyler and Marie that might never be healed, and his son despises the man his father turned out to be, as well as being shocked to the core by his mother's complicity. Hank is dead, Gomez is dead, Mike is dead, Gus is dead, and there's nothing particularly ratings-grabbing about decomposition. There's just no story left to tell.

The narrative of Breaking Bad - the impetus for things to occur within that universe that make the story happen - is concluded, and was concluded in such a way as to be both fitting, and satisfying. That's a rare trick for TV today.

But you'd quite happily cheapen the ending that was given for the sake of a loosely-connected vignette that would ultimately leave a bad taste in everybody's mouth. Fuck me sideways with a bowl of petunias. You're exactly what's wrong with television audiences today. no no
Super Hans

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« Reply #431 on: 11-26-2013 23:47 »

Why? wouldn't it be nice to give the loyal fans a present of seeing the fallout of Walt's alleged demise.

Would definitely be interested to see how;
Flint - How did he react to his pops behaviour? Happy/Sad when he found out if he was dead?
Marie - Will she believe that Hank is dead? I still have suspicions he's actually alive
Skylark - Who cares actually
Huell - did he escape?
Brock - was his mother definitely dead or did she somehow survive? (only one bullet used by that headcase on her)
Jessie - did he rush to Brock's aid or go back using?

One last episode - give the fans what they want for a change  mad
totalnerduk

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« Reply #432 on: 11-27-2013 00:00 »

Why? wouldn't it be nice to give the loyal fans... One last episode...[?]

But why set it after the conclusion of the meaningful parts of the story. That would be like filming another episode of Blackadder Goes Forth, set after "Goodbyeee".

Xanfor

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« Reply #433 on: 11-27-2013 00:50 »

Blackadder rises as a zombie during WWII, and proceeds to have hilarious misunderstandings with Nazis.
JoshTheater

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« Reply #434 on: 11-27-2013 01:00 »

Marie - Will she believe that Hank is dead? I still have suspicions he's actually alive
Brock - was his mother definitely dead or did she somehow survive? (only one bullet used by that headcase on her)

I'm going to hold on to my belief that you're a troll to stay sane, but in case you're not, I hope one day you realize how stupid you are.
Beamer

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« Reply #435 on: 11-27-2013 01:33 »

Guuuuys, you're going to spoil the spin-off where Hank and Andrea are co-managing a Cinnabon in Omaha! cry
Sir Wankalot

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« Reply #436 on: 11-27-2013 01:34 »

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Marie - Will she believe that Hank is dead? I still have suspicions he's actually alive
Brock - was his mother definitely dead or did she somehow survive? (only one bullet used by that headcase on her)

I definitely think there should be a series six revolving around Andrea. Her waking up in a hospital, doctor is all "Well this guy definitely tried to kill you but luckily he only shot you in the head from point blank range with one bullet, and as any doctor will tell you it takes at least three shots to the brain to kill a woman" and Andrea's like "Shit though, shot in the head, still pretty bad right?" and the doctor is like "Dude, I'm the fucking doctor here, you get up and walk it off pal".
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #437 on: 11-27-2013 02:03 »

My stupid mom won't let me watch it anymore. So I guess now I just have to continue watching it when she's not around. The only reason she knows I was watching it in the first place, was because I was stupid and DVRd it. Any good tips on how to sneak it when she's not around? tongue
Beamer

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« Reply #438 on: 11-27-2013 02:15 »

Any good tips on how to sneak it when she's not around? tongue

You need a water balloon and some... Oh, wait. What?
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #439 on: 11-27-2013 02:23 »

Any good tips on how to sneak it when she's not around? tongue

Got a VCR?
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