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Beamer

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« Reply #240 on: 09-02-2013 17:02 »
« Last Edit on: 09-02-2013 17:04 »

I loved the little meta nods to the writing here and there. Walt's line about how likely it was that he'd come this far to be killed off by something as trivial as cancer and pretty much all of Jesse's dialogue with Hank.


Even the title was a nod to season 4's "Problem Dog," which also had a character grappling with the reasoning behind murdering someone not quite deserving of it.
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« Reply #241 on: 09-02-2013 17:37 »

Wonder what Jesse meant by hitting Walt where his "real" home is?

Also, someone on the Breaking Bad reddit page said that

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« Reply #242 on: 09-02-2013 19:06 »

I've been leaning towards the idea that he's going to fake his death for a while.

That would explain how Walt's house still winds up getting burnt down, based on the flash-forward that we got at the start of this run of episodes.

Also, if Carol thought Walt was dead, it would explain her reaction to him showing up.

Plus all the other little things such as him being on the run and having a new false name.
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« Reply #243 on: 09-02-2013 19:10 »

That would explain how Walt's house still winds up getting burnt down, based on the flash-forward that we got at the start of this run of episodes.

I don't think it got burnt down, it just looks trashed and abandoned.
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« Reply #244 on: 09-02-2013 19:46 »

Agreed.
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« Reply #245 on: 09-02-2013 22:22 »

Hmm, I'll have to rewatch it. I must have just filled in the blanks in my memory so that it looked scorched after Jesse poured gasoline everywhere.
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« Reply #246 on: 09-03-2013 00:52 »

Beamer

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« Reply #247 on: 09-03-2013 02:38 »

Wonder what Jesse meant by hitting Walt where his "real" home is?

Also, someone on the Breaking Bad reddit page said that


This sounds about right. smile

Still not sure what Jesse's plan is, though. I'd say Jesse would consider Walt's "real home" to be wherever his money is - not to mention Todd and Lydia's plot has still been running in the background this entire time. I'd say it's all going to link up sooner or later.
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« Reply #248 on: 09-04-2013 02:48 »

Hey, I've been looking on social media, and people really hate Skylar. I don't get why.
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« Reply #249 on: 09-04-2013 02:53 »

I think she's generally lumped into that category of "wife of seedy tv character getting in the way of him doing awesome things," ie. Betty from Mad Men, Carmela from The Sopranos, etc.

I never had a problem with her, though I'll admit, I liked her a lot more AFTER she crossed into criminal territory herself. Skyler's at her best when she's at her most conniving ("I used Quicken!").
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« Reply #250 on: 09-04-2013 02:58 »

I like her because she doesn't just sit back and let everything happen, she speaks her mind, which is very often not how women are portrayed in drama series.
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« Reply #251 on: 09-04-2013 03:02 »

I could understand the Skyler hatred around season 2, back when Walt was still likeable and she seemingly wanted out of the relationship despite everything the audience knew he was doing for the family. Now that Walt's crossed over into pure evil territory, I don't see how anyone could still see Skyler as the villain of the show.
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« Reply #252 on: 09-04-2013 19:31 »

Now that Skyler is helping Walt instead of being selfish, bitchy, and generally ungrateful, I don't mind her. I mean, I'm still not liking her very much. But I'm not hoping for her to be killed off (and I expect that as it wraps up, there will be a sudden rash of deaths, as all of Walt's chickens come home to roost).

Walt, on the other hand, stopped being relatable or likeable when he killed Mike (for me, at least). I liked Mike, and was really disappointed when he died. I'd hoped that Mike would be in it to the end, and even that he'd get away with it all, end his days somewhere sunny and without anything more dangerous to do than drive his granddaughter around in one of his big old cars.

Skyler, I'm completely neutral about. But I'd be happy to see the series conclude with Walt's death. The only three characters I'm really hoping survive are Hank (not Marie. She's a nonentity really), Saul (maybe his goons too, they're okay I guess), and Jesse. Jesse's been through a lot since being approached by Walt in the first season, and I think he deserves at the very least to get away with his life. I mean, he probably doesn't deserve to escape punishment for being a drug dealer, a murderer, and over-using the word "bitch", but he deserves better than a shallow grave in the New Mexico desert.

I suppose Gomez and Skinny Pete ought to survive, too. Gomez hasn't specifically irked me, and Skinny Pete's piano skills are impressive enough that I'm wondering exactly what went so wrong with his life that he's at the place where he is.

Badger's amusing, too. I guess that Badger will either not be appearing again, or will be ending up six feet under though. I couldn't say why, exactly. It's just a feeling.
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« Reply #253 on: 09-04-2013 20:34 »

I have a feeling there's gonna be a sad ending. If Jesse died, I'd be really sad. He's been through hell.
Beamer

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« Reply #254 on: 09-05-2013 08:31 »

Yeah, Jesse's the one character who I desperately want to have a happy ending. I think the entire White family is pretty much fucked at this point, but Jesse genuinely deserves it.

Also, Breaking Bad tribute web comic I did for my animated series:
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« Reply #255 on: 09-05-2013 23:26 »

^ That's great Beamer smile
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« Reply #256 on: 09-09-2013 05:26 »

Holy shit, what a cliffhanger
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« Reply #257 on: 09-09-2013 14:18 »

I agree. Best episode so far this season. Wow.
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« Reply #258 on: 09-09-2013 15:43 »

Totes. I'm watching Talking Bad for the first time ever right now. Kind of fun.
Only 3 episodes to go eek

That episode ended abruptly. I'm glad that Walt still seems to have some sense of humanity and was trying to warn Hank about the whole about-to-get-shot-to-pieces thing.

Hey, I've been looking on social media, and people really hate Skylar. I don't get why.

I've never really liked her and I could never really figure out why. I guess she makes me think of a strict teacher who yells at you if you sneeze. Which is funny considering Walt's supposed to be the teacher..
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« Reply #259 on: 09-09-2013 16:28 »

Holy hell, what a place to end an episode! I really am lost for words. That was amazing, but god damn. I'm pretty sure I forgot to exhale during the entire last act.

Totes. I'm watching Talking Bad for the first time ever right now. Kind of fun.

I generally watch the previous week's on the night before the next episode as a bit of a recap. They're pretty good. They don't get quite as in-depth as I'd like (for that, I would recommend the episode of The Writers' Room with the Breaking Bad writing staff), but definitely something I would've liked to have seen implemented earlier in the show.

On a side note, I really hope we get a flashback this season explaining just how the hell Walt poisoned Brock. They seem to be setting it up. Brock looks at him so... knowingly.
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« Reply #260 on: 09-09-2013 18:36 »
« Last Edit on: 09-09-2013 20:17 »

I'm glad that Walt still seems to have some sense of humanity and was trying to warn Hank about the whole about-to-get-shot-to-pieces thing.

At first I thought the same thing, that Walt had kept some humanity as he wouldn't allow Hank to be killed...but then I thought about the discrepancy that he was already going to have Jesse killed, and I think he cares about Jesse more. So my thought now is that he realized whether he surrendered to Hank there or had two DEA agents killed, his life as he hoped it would stay was effectively over, so he chose to end the madness instead of becoming a full-fledged fugitive. I think if he thought that he could have Hank killed but still keep his money and live normally with his family, he would have done so, but clearly that wasn't an option...so it was more a decision based on logic than humanity.

Too bad he doesn't seem to have a choice in the matter, based on the flashforwards we've seen. My guess is Hank is dead at the beginning of the next episode.
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« Reply #261 on: 09-09-2013 18:55 »

Yeah, it seems Hank being dead is the only possible way the show can get from where it is now to where we know it's going to be in flash-forwards... I could buy that the opening scenes from 501/509 were Walt on the run following the fall-out from that.

Then again, this show never fucking does what you expect it to. WHICH IS WHY IT'S AWESOME. big grin
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« Reply #262 on: 09-09-2013 19:04 »
« Last Edit on: 09-09-2013 19:07 »

I literally screamed "WHY!" at my laptop when the end credits came on.

WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO US, VINCE?!

I was pretty much shaking during the whole stand-off at the end. That was intense.

Yeah, it seems Hank being dead is the only possible way the show can get from where it is now to where we know it's going to be in flash-forwards... I could buy that the opening scenes from 501/509 were Walt on the run following the fall-out from that.

So the M60 and the ricin is for his fight against Todd's uncle and his White Supremacist gang? Y'know, revenge for killing Hank. That's been a solid theory for a while now. Seems more likely if Hank is indeed killed off.
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« Reply #263 on: 09-09-2013 20:42 »

At first I thought the same thing, that Walt had kept some humanity as he wouldn't allow Hank to be killed...but then I thought about the discrepancy that he was already going to have Jesse killed, and I think he cares about Jesse more.

Right. It seems like Walt is kind of in denial about how much of a monster he is. It was slightly comical how he'd protest to Saul, earlier in the season. "What? How dare you suggest killing Hank/Jesse/whomever. I'm not that type of person!" Yeah, right...

I don't see how Hank/Gomez survive this gunfight. It was a little silly that they avoided the gunfire at the end of last night's episode. I know the writers try to surprise us and keep us guessing, but honestly it would be kinda lame if they find some BS way to have the characters survive this.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #264 on: 09-09-2013 20:45 »

I don't see how Hank/Gomez survive this gunfight. It was a little silly that they avoided the gunfire at the end of last night's episode. I know the writers try to surprise us and keep us guessing, but honestly it would be kinda lame if they find some BS way to have the characters survive this.

Someone on the Breaking Bad reddit page calculated that the entire shootout scene actually only lasted for around 5 seconds.
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« Reply #265 on: 09-10-2013 00:20 »
« Last Edit on: 09-10-2013 00:38 »

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHH HHHHH, now that I'm caught up to the latest episode and have to wait like a sucker.... I repeat, AAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHH!!!

Also, I'm loving the design for the complete Bluray box set:
http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/breaking-bad-complete.jpg
Beamer

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« Reply #266 on: 09-10-2013 02:03 »

Yea, that ain't gonna fit on the shelf. tongue
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« Reply #267 on: 09-10-2013 03:04 »

So the M60 and the ricin is for his fight against Todd's uncle and his White Supremacist gang? Y'know, revenge for killing Hank. That's been a solid theory for a while now. Seems more likely if Hank is indeed killed off.

I don't know if it'll be just for revenge. That's not really Walt's style.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get something like them taking Jesse and Walt hostage in order to use Jesse as collateral to force Walt to cook meth for them - only, they plan on keeping him forever so that they can make Walt cook indefinitely, leading to Walt staging a big rescue mission which will culminate in him being mortally wounded, but saving Jesse and the two of them making peace again before Walt dies.

Of course, I imagine it'll be something a bit more out of left field and unexpected that whatever I can come up with.


I think Hank is definitely dead now, though. I mean, what was that phone-call to Marie if not the writers letting him have his final goodbye before he gets killed?
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« Reply #268 on: 09-10-2013 03:14 »

I think Hank is definitely dead now, though. I mean, what was that phone-call to Marie if not the writers letting him have his final goodbye before he gets killed?

That's exactly what I thought. Though it seems like kind of an abrupt end to the whole "DEA investigation" storyline, even if Hank was doing it on the hush-hush. But, who knows? I honestly can't imagine HOW they'd ever get out of this predicament without at least one major character being killed off though, and with only 3 episodes to go, I think we can expect the body count to rise significantly very, very soon.
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« Reply #269 on: 09-10-2013 04:11 »

Problem is; you can't beat Gus' death. Getting shot up by a bunch of Nazis is pretty boring.

Also, I'm loving the design for the complete Bluray box set:
http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/breaking-bad-complete.jpg

That looks fucking awesome. Now I'm glad I had to sell my season 1 dvd set so we could buy food! When we have money again I'ma buy that! Assuming it'll be the same in Australia anyway. I hope the show ends in a "good" way so I'll still want to buy it and watch it all in one go...

I think Hank is definitely dead now, though. I mean, what was that phone-call to Marie if not the writers letting him have his final goodbye before he gets killed?

Yeah, I thought that felt like one of those ominous phone calls. But at that point I was thinking "hmm, would they kill off Marie...?" O'course, Hank would be the more obvious choice...  They have to kill off a woman at some point, that's what equal opportunity laws are all about, aren't they?
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« Reply #270 on: 09-10-2013 04:34 »

Yeah, Marie knows he caught Walt, so if Hank dies in the desert, she's now a liability.

I bet Todd's gonna outlive everyone. That guy's so creepy, bullets will go right fucking through him. roll eyes
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« Reply #271 on: 09-10-2013 04:51 »

Heh, yeah. They said that on Talking Bad last night, how he's Dexter-esque, no feelings, looks at people weird. That was hilarious at the beginning with whatsherface, she was sitting at a 45 degree angle away from him. 'Here's my lipstick-stained cup so you can creep over me after I'm gone.' flirt
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« Reply #272 on: 09-10-2013 05:20 »

They summed it up perfectly in the AV Club review:

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And then theres Todd, whose dead-eyed turn from eager apprentice to remorseless, opportunistic killer makes him the scariest motherfucker in the Breaking Bad universe right now. One minute, hes agreeing to arrange a hit on Jesse without batting an eye, the next, hes dispassionately pumping bullets in the general direction of whoever his Uncle Jack says stands between them and unlimited Czech drug cash. Todd is Jesse with no loyalty, Gale with no aesthetics, Mike with no code. Hes a tool whos perfectly content with having no other identity than how others might want to use him.

I'm hoping Todd doesn't die in the shoot-out, because he's slowly become the character to really look out for this season. smile
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« Reply #273 on: 09-10-2013 17:33 »
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I really like Todd, I wish he had slightly more screen-time in the last few episodes, but oh well. big grin

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« Reply #274 on: 09-10-2013 20:06 »

Some people have been calling Todd "Meth Damon", which I think is pretty good.
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« Reply #275 on: 09-11-2013 15:55 »

laff Nice. Yeah, he looks like Matt Damon minus some chromosomes* or something.

[Team America]Matt Damon[/Team America]

*not intended to offend anybody missing some chromosomes

Reasonably?!?!?! Halp.

You know, I think I have become desensitised to every other show/movie ever since I saw Walt and Jesse dissolve a guy in the bathtub and then have to clean it up. This show really has been a great ride.
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« Reply #276 on: 09-11-2013 17:22 »

I can only see Todd as young Philip Seymour Hoffman after he played Hoffman's son in The Master.
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« Reply #277 on: 09-11-2013 21:08 »

You know, I think I have become desensitised to every other show/movie ever since I saw Walt and Jesse dissolve a guy in the bathtub and then have to clean it up. This show really has been a great ride.
Unfortunately thy busted that on Mythbusters frown
Now what am I going to do with all this ACID?! \_(ツ)_/
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« Reply #278 on: 09-12-2013 01:10 »

So, that Saul Goodman spin-off is happening.

Also, it's a prequel.
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« Reply #279 on: 09-12-2013 01:48 »


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