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« Reply #240 on: 11-09-2009 01:32 »

I watched about 3/4s of what I think is Friday's episode because I caught it while flipping channels.  I haven't watched any of this show previously, so I don't know what the hell was going on with all the body jumping (or the rest of the episode for that matter).  The Philip Fry joke was funny though.  I'm not sure it looked interesting enough for me to continue watching it.
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« Reply #241 on: 11-11-2009 14:38 »

RDA's had more screen time in Universe than he did in the season 8 of SG1!
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« Reply #242 on: 11-15-2009 02:45 »

another decent episode this week.
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« Reply #243 on: 11-15-2009 04:01 »

Ya except they've used the solar flare thing already, it's like they happen all the time for convenient sci-fi plotlines! tongue

Flying Goa'uld larvae! eek
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« Reply #244 on: 11-15-2009 04:57 »
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Yep, that last one was probably the best of the season so far. The Chloe death had a particularly satisfying level of OM NOM NOM NOM to it.

I also liked how the ep revealed Rush's motivations... he's out there to try and put a permanent end to human mortality.

What with Eli being interested in ascension as well, I hope the show goes somewhere interesting with the topic... never liked how characters in SG-1 and atlantis have generally gone "nah, think I'll stay human thanks" when given the option.. Shepperd even had a bunch of hot chicks inviting him to spend eternity with them at one point and the doofus turned them down!
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« Reply #245 on: 11-22-2009 16:02 »

The third Stargate SG:1 movie is to be called "Revolution", and the Atlantis one is to be called "Extinction"... although it's not 100% that either of them will be made due to funding issues.


http://www.gateworld.net/news/2009/11/third-sg-1-movie-is-stargate-revolution/
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« Reply #246 on: 11-22-2009 20:12 »

What's the deal with Sgt. Cueball McAngrypants?  Those were obviously not chill pills he was popping.
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« Reply #247 on: 11-24-2009 04:05 »

so I was bored tonight and decided to catch up on Universe. First ep I'd missed was "Water."

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« Reply #248 on: 12-06-2009 01:23 »

So he just so happens to be stranded on a planet with an alien ship? No prizes for guessing what he does next!
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« Reply #249 on: 12-06-2009 03:29 »

Finally saw the finale to Atlantis. Disappointed.

I think Stargate overall has run out of steam. Back to watching the first few seasons of SG-1 for me!
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« Reply #250 on: 12-06-2009 04:33 »

So he just so happens to be stranded on a planet with an alien ship? No prizes for guessing what he does next!

faps?
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« Reply #251 on: 12-06-2009 06:20 »

Stuck on windy desert planet with crashed alien ship... looks like we're going to get a re-run of that BSG ep where kara crash-landed.. only with less gore and boobs. frown

Not a bad episode though, was glad to see them go somewhere with the chair.
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« Reply #252 on: 12-09-2009 19:32 »

Well, they finally did something that reminds me of Stargate...

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« Reply #253 on: 12-15-2009 01:15 »

We just got the two-part premier of Universe last night in Australia.
It was kind of Meh. The spaceship is stupid looking, nothing much happened, and everybody is forgettable.
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« Reply #254 on: 12-15-2009 05:41 »

Oh, hang in there. It gets .... never mind. Just move on now.
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« Reply #255 on: 04-03-2010 06:27 »

Well, second half of the season is here!

Aaaannnd the show still sucks...
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« Reply #256 on: 04-03-2010 06:58 »

I was reasonably entertained.

And mildly disappointed that they brought Rush back to the ship so fast.
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« Reply #257 on: 04-03-2010 07:19 »

Well, second half of the season is here!

Aaaannnd the show still sucks...

You somehow expected it to magically improve? It was pretty obvious from Episode 1 that Universe kinda missed the point of Stargate.
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« Reply #258 on: 04-04-2010 08:08 »

I guess I'm just a sucker for punishment...
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« Reply #259 on: 04-04-2010 14:08 »

Universe hasn't started playing here yet, and I haven't seen any promos. So... are we not missing much?
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« Reply #260 on: 04-04-2010 16:04 »

Set your sights low, pretend it's another season of BSG and just enjoy an hour of reasonable entertainment.
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« Reply #261 on: 04-06-2010 08:33 »

Oh dude, don't soil Battlestar's memory by comparing it to this show...
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« Reply #262 on: 11-04-2010 20:18 »

For some reason this makes me lol a mighty lol.

Comcast's episode summary for the episode Unnatural Selection, which I'm currently watching:

"An alien chieftain returns to his planet with the SG-1 team in a desperate attempt to stop an army of box-shaped robots from annihilating his civilization."
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« Reply #263 on: 11-04-2010 23:40 »

These last couple of episodes of SGU have been awful.  I don't care about the characters' problems, damnit!  Where are my jaffas and P-90s?  Also, isn't there supposed to be some kind of giant ring involved with this show somehow?  You know, that thing that sends people to cool (yet oddly similar) planets where they fight badass aliens with glowy eyes? 
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« Reply #264 on: 11-04-2010 23:58 »

confused You must be thinking of some other show. I don't remember anything like that in SG:Universe.
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« Reply #265 on: 12-17-2010 02:35 »
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Well, cancelled.

Shame really, second season has been a hell of a lot better than the first so far.

Last episode that's going to air will fade to black on a major cliffhanger, too. Gotta love shows that do that.

I think that's the end of stargate for a very long time. Hopefully if it comes back it'll get some fresh writers, and some of the spark that made the movie and early SG-1 so good.

Really needs what the new Star Trek movie did for that franchise... some sort of kick to shake things up. A Lucian Alliance attack on Earth making the stargate program public would be a good bet. After that, it could deal with cool stuff like colonizing other words, ascension cults, fleets of human ships on expeditions to other galaxies. Maybe depict humanity as the aggressor species for once, as Russia takes it's ships and decides to lay waste to a galaxy... that, people would watch.

So much potential for awesome with the setup that stargate canon has established for itself over the years rather than SGU's forced-drama in a bunch of black rooms.

They could potentially set up a brilliantly grand-scale sci-fi show that's still grounded to real life by being set in near-present-day earth rather than a distant future where we've all become communist hippies.
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« Reply #266 on: 12-20-2010 17:55 »

Communist hippies from the future should come through the Stargate and simply be shot on sight. That'd make a good episode. Since it involves shooting hippies and all.

Seriously, the Stargate franchise needs to move to theatrical release. It's way too obscure amongst the general population for something that's been on the telly-box for so long.
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« Reply #267 on: 12-21-2010 05:20 »

Maybe depict humanity as the aggressor species for once, as Russia takes it's ships and decides to lay waste to a galaxy

Or America "bringing democracy" to other worlds by blowing them up.


I agree with tnuk. Stargate on the big-screen, in whatever form, would be a sight to behold. And even though I'm fairly indifferent to the whole 3D craze that's going on at the moment, I do think that the wormhole would be bloody awesome with 3D goggles on. whoosh-zoom-woooooooo!

Although I think that the sheer quantity of canon that's there at present would mean that such a thing would more likely be another of the increasingly-frequent reboots. Film producers are too fixated on the problem of the 'casual viewer' and audiences unfamiliar with a franchise being scared away by an expectation of prior knowledge. Star Trek was somewhat of an exception, because they were clever enough to make it a reboot-that-technically-isn't, but that's a trick you can't pull twice. More likely we'd see a return to the beginning - Stargate's discovery, subsequent expedition, Egyptian intrigue, etc. The basic premise that everybody's familiar with from the first movie's presence in popular culture, possibly combined with some elements and characters from the series.
To do it any other way in a theatrical release, you'd have a whole lot of back-story and elements to reference which would make a movie cluttered and confusing to Joe Average, not to mention that many of those elements would seem really silly out of context.
The straight-to-DVD movies were good, because the people who bought them were the fans who were already familiar with the show. No explanations necessary. Theatrical films do not have that advantage, because to justify the cost, they can't just be for a small cadre of die-hards. They have to appeal to everybody... which is especially hard for sci-fi films because of their necessarily large budget. The second X-Files movie tried to counter this budgetary problem by losing a lot of the sci-fi and just making it a creepy murder mystery - but that backfired because everybody wanted alien spaceships and was disappointed.
This is why I think that if a theatrical Stargate movie were made now, it would likely be a reboot.

Apparently Dean Devlin, co-writer of the original film, is still trying to make two sequels, with Kurt Russell and James Spader, which will completely ignore all the TV show mythology and carry on straight from the first one. I think this is a lot less likely than a reboot. In any event, Lionsgate holds the rights to the original film, which means it probably has rights to any theatrical release based on it.
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« Reply #268 on: 12-24-2010 21:03 »


I agree with tnuk. Stargate on the big-screen, in whatever form, would be a sight to behold. And even though I'm fairly indifferent to the whole 3D craze that's going on at the moment, I do think that the wormhole would be bloody awesome with 3D goggles on. whoosh-zoom-woooooooo!

A thousand times yes.

But it needn't necessarily be a reboot. The casual viewer could be sucked in easily enough by simply moving on from SG1, Atlantis, and SGU. The major plotlines for each have been more-or-less wrapped up, and therefore, something new could be produced within the same universe, using the same technology, same mcguffins, same characters, and same general premise. Perhaps playing with the Stargate's capacity to be used as a time machine, perhaps accessing parallel worlds with it, and maybe introducing a new core cast to put the established canon firmly behind the new releases.

Of course, a reboot would probably be the most popular decision around any standard boardroom table of studio morons.
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« Reply #269 on: 12-25-2010 01:21 »

The problem, as I see it, is that MGM owns the TV rights to Stargate (which I suppose must include straight-to-DVD movies), while Lionsgate and StudioCanal currently owns the movie rights (ie: relating to the first film). There may be a problem if MGM wants to make an SG1 movie, since the stargate itself and several core characters, themes, etc, come from the first movie. I might be misreading the whole legality issue when it comes to movies, but that seems like the kind of thing petty film producers would squabble over.

But also, studio morons is right. Unless you had the full writing and production team from the TV show(s) doing the movie. That seems unlikely because of what I said above, and because I'd guess most of them would have moved onto new things by now.

Even so, a new core cast and a new story/new enemy would make it accessible to Joe public who didn't watch ten seasons of SG1, plus Atlantis, Universe, and the two DVD movies. But all the same, it would put said layman right into a world where, for example, the United States of America inexplicably has access to huge starships with Star Trek level of technology in the present day and in secret from the rest of the world. That's a kind of profound... Spy Kids or GI:Joe level of silliness to dump on someone all of a sudden without the benefit of gradual development over the course of a decade.
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« Reply #270 on: 12-25-2010 03:50 »

Supposing that the ST-level starships and everything else have been mothballed and broken up for scrap due to budget cuts?
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« Reply #271 on: 12-25-2010 17:19 »

Forgetting the part where MGM can't even afford a Bond movie at this point.
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« Reply #272 on: 12-26-2010 09:33 »

Stargate might end up being one of the properties they sell to stay afloat.
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« Reply #273 on: 07-16-2012 22:59 »

Too much free time + Netflix = watched sgu again. Well, parts again, much for the first time.

It was not as terrible as I remembered, but i still can't say it was great. Honestly, if they'd not called it stargate at all, i might've enjoyed it more. On reflection, that is the one thing that really bothers me. They wanted to tie it into stargate, based on the idea that all the old stargate fans (who, as the producers kept telling us, were too small a group to make a show a real financial success), but at the same time they wanted to distance themselves from everything stargate had always been before. Sure, these people were not selected or trained for the mission they found themselves stuck carrying out, but still, they WERE selected for the stargate program, and they were selected for a long-term mission on a remote planet. They should not have been so unprofessional or incompetent. Stargate was always an optimistic show at heart, and this show just driped cynicism. I also feel like the writers kept wanting to borrow ideas from other hit sic-fi shows, and executed them in what seemed to be the most ham-fisted way possible. They were trying SO HARD, especially in the early episodes, to jerk the audience around with drawn-out emotional scenes, but they never bothered to give us reasons to care about the characters in the first place, so these prolonged emo moments were just yawn-inducing. And stargate series have always been filled with heroic characters you could admire; there was not a soul in this entire series I could admire in the least. Everyone was not just flawed but completely broken in one way or another. The only one who even seemed to be growing into someone admirable was the  rookie and slacker, who in any other stargate series would've been growing to live up to the expectations of the team of professionals he found himself thrust into; instead, he was forced to grow up to compensate for the uselessness of the team of self-absorbed, emotionally unstable, unfit for duty rejects who should never have comprised an entire sgc offworld project team in the first place.

But bad as all that is, as I said at the start - it mostly stems from comparisons to existing stargate material, a comparison not just invited but DEMANDED by placing this series in the stargate universe.
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« Reply #274 on: 07-17-2012 00:00 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2012 00:07 »

Aside from Rush, Eli and Greer, all the main characters were horribly annoying and unlikeable idiots who spent most of their time whining or moping. smile

Looking back, early seasons of SG-1 and later seasons of Atlantis were the absolute best of the franchise, big ideas, great characters, loads of humour and action and blowing shit up and massive spaceship battles. Just plain quality entertainment that didn't feel the need to be anything other than that.
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« Reply #275 on: 04-26-2013 22:03 »

Bump for new mobile game!
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« Reply #276 on: 04-26-2013 22:26 »

Farscape is superior to Moongate in all ways.
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« Reply #277 on: 04-27-2013 00:32 »
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Farscape is superior to Moongate in all ways.

Fargate: Enterprise Wars is superior to Moonscape: The Next Atlantis. But the series where both crossover and an alternative timeline to Battleship Galaga is created as a result is absolutely fantastic.

Most people probably wouldn't believe it.
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