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Tweek
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Originally posted by aslate: I didn't rate Big Train that much. I agree, it had some funny stuff, but quite a bit that was very unfunny as I recall.
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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Anyone catch the new series of Have I Got News For You on Friday? I thought Martin Clunes was pretty good. It's William Hague this week.
The showbiz rumour generator has Alexander Armstrong (of Armstrong & Miller fame) as No.1 contender to take over full time.
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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*BUMP*
Just posting to say how much the two last ever Specials of "The Office" have been over Christmas.
Brilliant, just brilliant.
Brent's "Blind Date" Night Club PA on the first one was priceless, and the ending (a real ending, yay!) was totally deserved.
Now, Gervais and Merchant hand it over to the Americans to fuck it all up.
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus: For a while it seemed like the character of Brent had got stale and predictable but the way that he almost becomes likeable by the end was a stroke of genius and extremely rectifying. The Tim and Dawn ending also worked well - a happy ending sans cheese.
Agreed. Totally. Brent was never really a character to be totally despised, but one who you'd feel sorry for. He's trying so hard to be liked by everyone and failing so damn miserably. So it was nice for him to get one over on the new boss and over Finch (the despicable salesman) at the end. Oh, and his line to the large woman st the party. " Thank god. I was waiting for a blind date, and was worried that you were it." Hopefully, they'll stay true to their word and not do any more, because that ended perfectly. With the American version centralising the Tim and Dawn characters, and sidlining Brent to a secondary role. We can only see where that will go.... ...down the toilet, probably.
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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David Walliams also guested in Eastenders (of all things) on Christmas Day, and fantastically played the inimitable "Vulva" in Spaced.
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Mouse On Venus
Liquid Emperor
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With the mention of Little Britain and Monkey Dust, I have to go off on a minor rant here: what is it with all these bloody sketch shows in the UK? Check out this little lot: - Harry Enfield (numerous shows)
- The Fast Show
- Reeves & Mortimer
- French & Saunders (numerous one-offs)
- Rory Bremner (Who Else, and one or two others I think)
- The Real McCoy
- Goodness Gracious Me
- Big Train
- Trigger Happy TV
- Smack The Pony
- The Sketch Show
- The Big Impression (formerly Allistair McGowan's Big Impression)
- 2DTV
- Dead Ringers
- Aaagh! It's The Mr. Hell Show
- Jam
- Monkey Dust
- Little Britain
- And probably many others I've forgotten.
Why so many? It's almost like people can't be bothered to try and create a sitcom with a coherent theme and plot to work their ideas into so they just spunk them off onto a wall and see what sticks, if anything. Admittedly, with the celebrity imitation sketch shows the format is more understandable but that's no excuse of how many of them there is. Oh and no offense but Little Britain is utter crap. It's basically a bunch of badly written, ill-conceived sketches by a couple of blokes who love the idea of themselves putting on stupid voices and saying and doing oh-so-random things. Monkey Dust is better in that some of their sketches are actually quite clever but in large part it's the worst aspects of The Mr. Hell Show and Jam combined. [/list]
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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Out of those, "Jam" sticks out for me as one which pushes the envelope of sketch shows into something more dangerous and original.
I've not seen "Little Britain" yet, but sounds a bit like "Stella Street", in that respect.
I'd certainly like to see new and original sitoms than more sketch shows. There's not been a decent one since "Spaced".
Oh, and The Kumars can go bite the big one junior, because they suck.
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Juliet
DOOP Secretary
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I have been watching Red Dwarf every night on BBC2 and I have been enjoying it. Now I turn out to be a big fan of Bo Selecta. That show had me laughing all the time. I always wanted to see what Little Britain is like but I kept on missing it.
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Melllvar
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus: It did, but in a sense I felt that show was wasted. The sketches I enjoyed the most were the ones where Chris Morris stopped trying to be taboo for the sake of being taboo and came up with better thought out sketches. Such as the one where the copper pees on the door of a guy's car, then the guy gets out of the car and is annoyed because he peed on the one door of his car that didn't have a urinal on it. True. Plus the Mark Heap sketch with the guy who holds up a Tobacconists for cigarettes, attempts to pay for them, then, realising he can get stuff for free, holds up another for matches. I love that one. Can't help liking my own personal favourite Jam sketch, "The Gush", though. About the porno movie guy who dies from ejaculating too much. The Adam & Joe "Jam" parody (featured on the Jam DVD) is priceless for poking fun at Chris Morris' shock tactic brand of comedy. Not a fan of "Black Books" then? Not seen it. However, considering what I've heard about it, I should.
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Lurrr
Professor
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Dead Ringers is much more topical and much more intelligent IMO. It's been running longer than any of those other impression shows (remember, it was a radio programme before it was on TV) and even Alistair McGowan started there. It's almost like people can't be bothered to try and create a sitcom with a coherent theme and plot to work their ideas into so they just spunk them off onto a wall and see what sticks, if anything. Admittedly, with the celebrity imitation sketch shows the format is more understandable but that's no excuse of how many of them there is. This is contrasted with the US who practically live off the sitcom format. Apart from Futurama and the Simpsons, I can't think of a single US sitcom that I like, but there are an awful lot of them with very similar themes, for example: -Friends -Frasier -Will and Grace -Spin City -Becker -Cheers (and there are others I'm sure) All these shows are very alike in their format, especially when compared to programmes like Red Dwarf and Blackadder. If anything, sitcoms have lost any of the diversity they had and it's become more difficult to create a genuinely challenging sitcom that will be funded by the networks. Those that stand out are those that break the mould. The great thing about quick-fire sketch shows is that you can mix a variety of material that can include conventional stuff and more experimental bits too. It's also good for the producers because you can take out any sketches which aren't popular and replace them when necessary, which keeps your audience happy.
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~FazeShift~
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DOOP Ubersecretary
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Will and Grace is not funny. People only tune in to hear the laughter track, apparently. Must be a health thing, laughter is the best medicine, I know some Chinese therapy sessions start off with just havin a laugh to relax muscles and stuff.
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User_names_suck
Professor
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus: why so many? It's almost like people can't be bothered to try and create a sitcom with a coherent theme and plot to work their ideas into so they just spunk them off onto a wall and see what sticks, if anything. Admittedly, with the celebrity imitation sketch shows the format is more understandable but that's no excuse of how many of them there is.
Well It seems no one saw the third series of the league of gentelmen which changed from the sketch show format into proper stories, they'd have a couple of other sketches in it the acted kind of like b and c storys they also ditched the laugh track It was brilliantly original and clever but no watched it
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User_names_suck
Professor
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shame that you really have to see them all in order to appreciate it
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Juliet
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I saw little Britain for the first time and I liked it a lot. I thought it was really funny. It’s a shame that I have missed a lot of it and I don’t have BBC3 too. Hey did you guys saw LOTR kiss on Dead Ringers? I thought that was funny.
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