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« Reply #40 on: 01-23-2007 20:26 »

I'm sure Mr. Warrior has better things to do with his time than respond to a 10 USD offer.  Coming up with a new saying is tough and time consuming.  Queering doesn't make the world work is tough to beat.

Of course Wanky would find the "Santa Rape" issue of Warrior Comics...

God, Hellwig is so freaking nuts....
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« Reply #41 on: 01-24-2007 00:03 »

 
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I'm sure Mr. Warrior has better things to do with his time than respond to a 10 USD offer. 

Are you sure? The man is just fucking bonkers.

As a side note, he responded to an email I sent him once asking for free Warrior workout wisdom by telling me to get off my pimply lard ass and paying for one of his personalized workout tapes. He only replied that one time. It was like, my fifth try.

And yes, I have nothing better to do than to harass the Ultimate Warrior all day. It's like poking a crocodile with a pointy stick.
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« Reply #42 on: 01-24-2007 00:50 »

 
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 Are you sure? The man is just fucking bonkers.

No argument there.  The man has absolutely no friends in the business (except maybe Randy Savage, who is just as crazy  as Warrior).

 
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As a side note, he responded to an email I sent him once asking for free Warrior workout wisdom by telling me to get off my pimply lard ass and paying for one of his personalized workout tapes. He only replied that one time. It was like, my fifth try.

His 'workout tape' is so bad until R.D. Reynolds highlighted it on his site, www.wrestlecrap.com.   It takes a certain amount of crappiness to make Wrestlecrap, and Warrior has many inductions there.

 
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And yes, I have nothing better to do than to harass the Ultimate Warrior all day. It's like poking a crocodile with a pointy stick.

Whatever floats your boat.  Personally, I try to avoid guys who make comic books that depict placing Santa in bondage and implying raping him. 

When he was in Texas he did more anabolic steroids than an entire NFL team on a daily basis.  Lance von Erich (the fake von Erich) told me that he once saw Warrior snort the longest line of cocaine he'd ever seen in one, long inhalation.

Warrior once tried to stiff Andre the Giant in the ring.  You have to realize that this was in the twilight of Andre's career.  Andre got pissed with Warrior, bitchslapped him so hard it knocked Warrior on his ass and almost knocked him out.  Warrior then learned his lesson and quit stiffing Andre.

There are few people that are functional yet completely nuts.  Warrior is one of those rare individuals.

 

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« Reply #43 on: 01-29-2007 01:17 »
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« Reply #44 on: 02-07-2007 18:45 »

Snitski's deput on ECW was awesome.  Why did they shave his head?  He looks like Kane.  They should also bring Umaga to ECW.  ECW needs more star power.  This whole ECW originals vs. New Breed is a carbon copy of WCW's Millionaire's Club vs. the New Blood.
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« Reply #45 on: 02-08-2007 12:07 »
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They probably shaved his head because they don't want the casual fan the remember that he used to do skits involving sex and cheese with Golddust.

I'm going to keep an eye on the ECW originals vs. New Breed storyline, at least they're taking WWECW in a specific direction now. It is similar to the New Blood storyline, but that's similar to countless others before it, the nWo was basically the same storyline too, wrestling works in cycles like that.

The show has nothing that made the old ECW special. The old ECW was about letting fantastic technical wrestlers with little skill on the mic, like Lance Storm, wrestle, and letting guys whos spirit made up for their lack of talent, like Tommy Dreamer, beat the holy hell out of eachother with sticks and chairs, and generally put on a fun show.

Anyway, CM Punk is fucking awesome. I don't care who says he's a dick, the only reason they don't like him backstage is because he won't kiss the Undertaker and Arn Anderson's ass anyway. That's total bullshit, you can respect someone without bowing down before them. He's worked hard to get where he is, and has respect for the business. They need to push this man now.

So anyways, anyone see Wrestling Society X? What a joke. Russo could book better shows than that. Love the set, though.
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« Reply #46 on: 02-14-2007 02:00 »
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It's offical Hulk Hogan won't be involved with WWE any time soon, which means he won't be at wrestlemania to face The Great Khali.  Rumor has it that may have Lashley take on Khali at Wrestlemania as part of the Trump/Mcmahon feud.

I like the idea of pushing Lashley more with having him take on Khali.  This is just to top the 20 anniversary of Hogan vs. Andre at Wrestlemania III.  If it was Hogan vs. Khali, it would be a little pointless.  WWE is focusing more on the future if they carry out the Khali vs. Lashley match.

ECW was good today.  Loved the tag team matches between ECW originals and new breed.  I agree with what Taz said.  Aside from RVD and Sabu, he Originals are getting old.  This fued would be better if they had more originals like Rhyno and Raven.  I'd like to see the Alpha Man get pushed and go after the ECW title, or at least have ECW bring back ECW tag team titles.

I'd also like Snitski's angle. I hope they have him face CM Punk next week. 

Does anybody know what the tag team Doug Furnas and Phil Lafleur are doing these days.  I was watching some of their old matches from 1997 and thought if they had a match with "The World's Greatest Tag Team" it would be a great match.
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« Reply #47 on: 02-18-2007 03:29 »

Dude I so love the entrance music of Montel Vontavious Porter (MVP).  I recently got the song from WWE Wreckless Intent and it rocks.  I hope they make MVP a main eventer by this year.  He's got the personality and charisma to be a big WWE star.
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« Reply #48 on: 02-19-2007 15:19 »

Sad news.  Mike Awesome passed away recently.

 http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/mikeawesomepasses

It's strange how another wrestler died recently whereas Bam Bam died not too long ago.
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« Reply #49 on: 03-02-2007 13:59 »

Oh wow, that is bad news... I liked Mike Awesome from his ECW and WCW days. The WWE really didn't give the guy a chance when he came into their organization and he sort of just disappeared.

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« Reply #50 on: 03-05-2007 02:29 »

ECW extremists are now called superstars.  ECW will introduce ECW tag team belts, which is a good thing.  Big Vito is set to head to ECW to reform the FBI.  Trevor and Lance are also set for ECW for the new Tag Team divison.  After seeing Renee and Silvan reunite on ECW a while back it's good that ECW have a tag team divison.  Lashley's a great champion, but with him the only champ on ECW it makes the show 1-dimensional.  The belts probably won't be introduced until after Wrestlemania.

WWE needs to build up their tag team divison on all three brands.   I remember someone posting on the old thread that Mcmahon doesn't like tag teams.  I find that ironic since many of his big stars, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Booker T, and Edge all started at tag team wrestlers.  If WWE could build a strong tag team divison who knows what future big names they could have?
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« Reply #51 on: 03-05-2007 03:16 »

I think that a tag title for ECW as opposed to a Television title is a bad move. The WWE just doesn't seem that great at booking full time Tag Teams as legit competitors lately. Hell, on Raw the titles are just a set piece in the world title feud.

It is nice to see that they're giving the ECW guys lower on the card something to wrestle for, though.
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« Reply #52 on: 03-06-2007 05:29 »

Casue of Bam Bam Bigalow's death...

The Tampa Tribune reports that the cause of Scott "Bam Bam" Bigelow's death was toxic levels of cocaine and the antianxiety drug benzodiazepine in his system as well as arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease, narrowing of small blood vessels that supply blood and oxygen to the heart. The Pasco-Pinellas Medical Examiner's Office has ruled the death as accidental.

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So he joins the ranks of Buzz Sawyer, Curt Henning, Rick Rude, Jesse Barr, half the Von Erich klan, and many more that I can't name who have all died from drug use and abuse.

No flame here - it's such a waste to see such talented people die from drugs.

Bam Bam, no matter how he died, he was still one of the best in the ring.
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« Reply #53 on: 03-10-2007 12:26 »

Oh crap, here we go again.

 http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2007/03/06/3704792.html

Bad News Allen, aka Bad New Brown in the WWF, died of a suspected heart attack last week.  I was on several cards with him when he stopped by Georgia to fued with Mr. Wrestling II for a month and I even had a TV "squash" match" with him (I got 'squashed' in less than two minutes).

I remember one of the workers was ragging Bad News about having a white wife - Allen was very protective of his family. One night Bad News came to me and asked me to let him take my place in a match that involved the guy ragging him.  Of course I said yes, not only because Bad News could legit kick my ass 7 days out of 7, but I couldn't stand the guy Bad News wanted a piece of.  The match was a lesson in brutality and the wised mouth guy ended up taking some time off to recover. Bad News even paid me the amount of money that I was suppose to get from the match (something like $200).

So I wouldn't call us friends but he was a worker that I respected tremendously.
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« Reply #54 on: 03-12-2007 01:31 »

It's been a bad week.

Ernie 'Big Cat' Ladd died earlier this week from cancer.  He was 68.

Another guy that I met in the locker room in the MACW area in 1979.  He was freaking huge.  He had a short feud with Ricky Steamboat then with Blackjack Mulligan.

Ladd was 6'11" and Mulligan was 6'9" - one night in Greensboro, NC they had a match - a typical brawl that only two big men can pull off.  What makes this match memorable was Mulligan and Ladd were 'running the ropes' - Ladd placed his full 325 pounds with full speed to bounce off the ropes.  Well, the top rope broke and Ladd went sailing into the front row.  He literally landed on people in the front row.  Ladd was injured - he tore his knee up, but he still got back in the ring and finished the match with Mulligan.

A little note:  MACW used plastic covered elevator cables as 'ropes', and were connected by the same that elevators used.  I know that those two were throwing their weight around in a quasi shoot with each other for personal pride to see who the best 'big man' was.  Ladd earned my respect watching that unexpected sick bump that he took.

Damned, two of the best wrestlers (not just black wrestlers, best of all time) died last week.

This really sucks.
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« Reply #55 on: 03-12-2007 02:04 »

I think it's worth mentioning that Mike Awesome killed himself, since it seems no one else has cared to mention it. :/

He was one of the few big men who could flip around like a cruiser weight, and even though he retired at a fairly young age, he will be missed.
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« Reply #56 on: 03-12-2007 03:33 »

You're right, I did overlook Mike Awesome.  A gifted worker who got stuck with stupid gimmicks in the WCW.
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« Reply #57 on: 03-12-2007 21:47 »

Vicki Guerrero may be the new GM of smackdown.  Rumor has it WWE may remove Long as GM appoint Vicki as new GM.  She was supposed to show up in San Deigo and apologize to Rey and make peace with him and then leave before Vince McMahon and Umaga came out.  However, she was busy taking care of her kids.  If they make her GM she'll hardly appear on Smackdown because of her kids.  I like Long as GM.  He'll still work in WWE but probably not as GM.

THE ROCK appears on RAW!  He makes his prediction on who will win the Battle of the Billionaires.

Big Vito is heading to ECW.  They're planning on reuniting the FBI as a tag team.  They're going to forget about the whole dress wearing storyline.

The following people I'd like to draft to ECW because they really need superstars.

Val Venis-  He'd be perfect in ECW.  He's been a jobber to long on RAW.  They can really push him in ECW, since he's been with the company for a long time.

Chris Masters- I still think the WWE should make this guy a world champ.  So what if he lacks a personality, all he needs is a manager to help him with that.  His masterlock challenges on RAW seem like a waste of his talent.  I could picture him going up against Lashley for the title.

Simon Dean aka Nova-  If this guy is still employed, they should sent him back to ECW.  I could picture him teaming with former bWo member Stevie Richards and they could form a tag team.

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« Reply #58 on: 03-13-2007 00:33 »
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Chris Masters- I still think the WWE should make this guy a world champ.  So what if he lacks a personality, all he needs is a manager to help him with that.  His masterlock challenges on RAW seem like a waste of his talent.  I could picture him going up against Lashley for the title.


I'm all for subjectivity here, but wow. Just, wow.

I've been really disappointed with TNA lately. A little over a year ago it looked like a viable alternative to the WWE, now it's tanking like WCW. I really hope they turn things around, because the industry needs competition to stay healthy, and it's a chance for guys to bring home a paycheck somewhere other than WWE if they're on the outs with Vince.
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« Reply #59 on: 03-13-2007 07:20 »
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Mike Bucci is retired from the ring, and there's a new Observer story about he and Al Snow going to the Arnold Classic for talent recruitment with just a table and white sign board saying "WWE Talent Recruitment" and getting zero reaction as over 1100 vendors were there with plasmas and big displays, so they just quit and mingled.  Smart move.

Oh, and Raw ruled, as did Heroes of World Class, which I watched for the third time over the past week.  Here's a great World Class tribute site - http://www.worldclasswrestling.info/
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« Reply #60 on: 03-15-2007 00:50 »
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So many legendary wrestlers are dying as of late.  Ray 'Thunder' Stern, Ernie Ladd and "Golden Boy" Arnold Skaaland.  That's really strange, but very sad.

Chris Masters has his own Top 5 greatest Master lock moments.  One of my favorites is when Tries to do it on Big Show but throws him to the ring post.  Why does Big Show scream so loud in pain over a ring post?  I laughed when I heard him scream.  I've seen him take chair shots, beaten up and go through plate glass and he doesn't cry out in pain at all.

newhook_1- Why is it so hard to picture Masters as a future champion?  Luger, Bulldog, Ahmed Johnson, all these guys were buffed and have held gold.  Masters is younger and has potential.
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« Reply #61 on: 03-15-2007 01:20 »

@ Jay:

Thanks for the WCCW site.  I wasn't in the business by the time that Gino Hernandez died.  Del Wilkes (The Patriot) once told me that Gino had crossed some drug dealers big-time and a hit was ordered on him.  Gino's death wasn't a suicide but a hit.

@FFSO:

It is sad that so many deaths have happened in such a short period of time, but most of these guys have at tleast lived a decent amount of time.  The young guys who have died are such a shame.  Mike Awesome, Bam Bam Bigalow, Renegade, Buzz Sawyer, Art Barr, Brian Pillman, Bobby Duncum, Jr., etc.

As for Masters.  I don't know - he doesn't strike me as main event material - yet.  With some seasoning and maybe a great heel manager he could get over enough to main event, but at this time he's very boring.  He's not Billy Graham on the stick, he doesn't have the Road Warrior's intensity and he doesn't have Tony Atlas' charisma.  I never cared much for Luger (even less after Liz died at his home), so using Luger as a comparison isn't fair to Masters.

Masters is only 22 years old, so he can grow into the business, but I hope that his body doesn't deteriorate like Billy Graham's or mine from the "chemical enhancements".

Believe me, it's not worth it. 
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« Reply #62 on: 03-15-2007 02:09 »
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newhook_1- Why is it so hard to picture Masters as a future champion?  Luger, Bulldog, Ahmed Johnson, all these guys were buffed and have held gold.  Masters is younger and has potential.

Well, out of those three I only thought that the Bulldog was any good. Johnson was a walking health insurance nightmare, and Luger just knows like 4 moves and over sells everything to the point of silliness. It's not a question of them holding gold, it's a question of them being good enough to deserve it.

The problem isn't that he's buffed. There have been great buff wrestlers before, Rick Rude for example. The problem is that he's boring. I can see him improving a maybe winning the World Tag Title or a secondary belt like the US or Intercontental title, but he'd have to imprve drastically before I could get behind a Masters World Title run. He's just a little slow and boring, I think a tag team with a smaller, faster guy would be the ideal thing for him. It's to bad they broke he and Carlito up and turned Carlito face, because Carlito really hasn't got much going on besides his breif program with Flair, and it was the ideal situation for Masters who's just too slow to really deserve a push up the singles card.
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« Reply #63 on: 03-15-2007 02:40 »

Ralph Snart & newhook_1:  Thanks for clearing that up.  I also don't like Luger much either and agree.  When I look how they pushed Luger so many times and I can't help but think they should do the same for Masters since he's younger and seems to have a bright future.

I would agree that Masters seems a little slow in ring, but with a manager and some training he'd be one of the top stars.  I'd rather see him take on Cena for the title than Edge, since it be a new rivalry and not something we've seen before for the millionth time, but that's another thing.

Ralph Snart- Is there anybody you feel should be in the WWE HOF, that isn't?  Bret Hart is mad that his brother Owen isn't in this years,  I feel Owen should be inducted either this year or by next year.  Ric Flair is in the running to be in Class of 2008.

How come Bruno Sammartino can't be in HOF?  I learned that he has some problem with Vince.

So far for Class of 2007:

Dusty Rhodes
"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig
Jerry "The King" Lawler
Nick Bockwinkel
Mr. Fuji

This is a pretty good list.
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« Reply #64 on: 03-19-2007 04:11 »

 
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@ Jay:

Thanks for the WCCW site.  I wasn't in the business by the time that Gino Hernandez died.  Del Wilkes (The Patriot) once told me that Gino had crossed some drug dealers big-time and a hit was ordered on him.  Gino's death wasn't a suicide but a hit.
You're welcome for the link, and David Manning implies that it was a hit in his Heroes of World Class interview, and that he actually gave Gino one of his guns to protect himself from some guys that were after him, and that Gino was very scared for the last week of his life.  Just to keep the WCCW love going, here's a fan-made documentary on the company called Of Birth and Blood.

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwbFjyGy61E
Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQDyHEDfLrE
Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxB5jc0NDO4
Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_CC59C6OYQ
Part 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k45ZHqG5TM
Part 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ2zmOo9EXY
Part 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2sIkfC-XOM

This covers some of the same ground as HoWC, but also touches on topics that were missing from it, like Fritz' heart attack angle to try and get ratings back up. This is also a fairly metaphorical documentary, and like HoWC, has some incredible music videos set to World Class footage.

As for Masters, I really don't see him not undergoing some kind of major physical decline if he keeps using steroids.  He's already making use of hair restoration surgery and has a face of a much older man and he's only in his early-20s.  While watching Graham's documentary, it was really sad seeing his health decline, but not just slowly decline, rapidly decline, and the footage used to support that part of the story was perfect. 

He went from a huge, ripped man with a body of a statue into a shell of a man with a bursting gut and missing pecs in just under a decade, then had to have all those joint replacement operations...  Geez. I can't really imagine anything being worth all that.
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« Reply #65 on: 03-19-2007 05:18 »
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He went from a huge, ripped man with a body of a statue into a shell of a man with a bursting gut and missing pecs in just under a decade, then had to have all those joint replacement operations... Geez. I can't really imagine anything being worth all that.

I grew up idolizing superstar Graham.  I use to read all the Apter mags as a young teenager and when Graham came to the Mid-Atlantic in 1975, I was in heaven.  He was the first heel that was cool to cheer.  I worked out 3-6 hours a day to get the body that I craved.  When I wasn't making progress in bulking up, I went to the family doctor and got my first script for anabolic steroids.  In 3 months, I put on 30 pounds of solid, lean muscle.  I went from benching 200 lbs to benching 380 lbs in that short amount of time.  I was hooked.

By 1981, I was working the midcards in Georgia and Florida when Superstar Graham came out of seclusion (he disappeared and even Dusty Rhodes, one of his closest friends, wondered if Graham was dead).  He was main eventing against Bob Backlund in the old WWWF for the title.  I drove to MSG and took a curtain jerking match just to be on the same card as Graham (I was paid $25 for that match).  I got to meet Graham in the locker room - he no longer had the ripped body - he was obviously high on something and was staggering around.  His match with Backlund was horrible - Backlund had to carry Superstar for the entire hour.

In 1982 Graham went to Florida - he was doing the horrible Karate gimmick.  He still had his fans and could still work the stick, but something was missing from the man who I idolized for almost a decade. 

I went through my life-altering crisis and had to quit both the business and steroids.  Life went on.

I remained a fan, palling around with some of the semi-retired guys like Johnny Weaver, Suede Hanson, Penny Banner, Moolah and others when the shows would come to the area.  The landscape was rapidly changing with the territories dying and two big names left - Vince and Turner.  Life went on.

So in 2000, I was working as a travel nurse on a medical floor in Flagstaff, AZ.  I saw the name Wayne Coleman on my list of patients, but it meant nothing (I was and still am a big believer in kayfabe; I didn't know the real name of most of the guys when I was in the business).  I went in the room and recognized the Superstar immediately.  Even being a shell of what he use to be, this was a impressive human being.  When I went off shift, I went back to his room and we talked about the business and the old days as we ate a pizza together - he even remembered when Buzz Sawyer, Matt Borne and I were fueding with Kevin Sullivan and his group of Devil Worshippers.  He was being treated for problems related to liver damage caused by sharing needles using steroids (he later got a liver transplant).  I've had some defining moments in my life but sitting and talking to Superstar Graham for 6 hours has to be one of my favorite memories. 

He and I both speak publicly about the effects of anabolic steroid use and abuse.  He's had every joint in his body replaced and a liver transplant.  I have cardiomyopathy (weakness of the heart muscle) and degenerative disk disease.  I have to see a pain management specialist monthly, am on powerful narcotics and muscle relaxers just to function.  I've had so many spinal epidurals and facet nerve neurotomies that I've lost count.  My future is an implanted TENS unit with a lead that goes from my sacrum to my thoracic spine for pain control.  All related to anabolic steroids.

So Masters in 22-23 years old.  Guess what?  By the time he's 30, he'll start experiencing serious health problems.  He'll be lucky to make it to 50 and not be on disability or dead.

Believe me, it's not worth it.  Ask Superstar Graham, or others who are no longer with us, like Kerry von Erich, Rick Rude, Road Warrior Hawk or Eddie Guererro.

Sorry that this sounds preachy, but a lot of these guys I knew personally and it tears me up whenever I see another name come up as being dead.

The cost of fame and fortune are just too high.


 
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Ralph Snart- Is there anybody you feel should be in the WWE HOF, that isn't?

Rick Rude comes to mind first.  Curt Hennig (if he already isn't).  Ricky Steamboat.  The Fabulous Freebirds.  The Ultimate Warrior.  Yes, I know Hellwig is nuts and Vince hates him, but it would be worth the price of admission to see him go apeshit on the mike.  Honky Tonk Man, as long as he's allowed to have at least 15 minutes of uninterrupted, uncensored mike time.

I was glad to see The Blackjacks inducted last year, and am glad to see Nick Bockwinkle inducted this year.

 
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Bret Hart is mad that his brother Owen isn't in this years, I feel Owen should be inducted either this year or by next year.

I love Bret.  I love everything about him as a wrestler, but Bret is a huge mark for himself - everything is always about him.  He had his day in the sun, but his time is over.  What happened to Owen is a tragedy, but that's what it was, a tragedy.  Vince didn't cause Owen's death and even though Owen was a better-than-average wrestler, there are many others who deserve to be in the HOF before him.

 
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Ric Flair is in the running to be in Class of 2008.

The man is a legend, but he shouldn't be inducted until he retires or dies, whichever happens first.

 
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How come Bruno Sammartino can't be in HOF? I learned that he has some problem with Vince.

Bruno is another mark for himself and is a difficult person to be around.  He's upset with Vince for changing the old style of wrestling - the kayfabe era - to the "Sports Entertainment" that it is today.  When his son, David Sammartino was starting in the business, Bruno refused to help David in any way.  Bruno had heat with some of the promoters in the NWA and when he had heat with Vince, David was the one who paid.  To this day AFAIK, David and Bruno are still on the outs with each other.

David was like his dad, a huge brawler with very little technical skill.  In the old Mid-Atlantic, David was a face and tried to stiff Baron von Rascke during a TV taping match.  James Rascke was a legit amateur wrestling champion and a pretty decent 'shooter'.  By the end of the match, David had a busted lip and some very loose front teeth.  SAndy Scott was the booker at the time and he wasn't impressed with David, so he didn't last long in the Mid-Atlantic.

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« Reply #66 on: 03-19-2007 17:29 »

That long story about the dangers of steroids was a fantastic read, thanks for sharing so many memories in that post. 

Hennig is going into the Hall of Fame this year along with Nick Bockwinkel, Jerry Lawler, Dusty Rhodes, and Mr. Fuji. Jim Ross, the Sheik, and the Wild Samoans are expected inductees this year as well. 
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« Reply #67 on: 03-20-2007 06:14 »

 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/03/19/wrestlers/index.html


If Vince kept his big mouth shut, I wouldn't have gone to SI.com.  Tom Zenk (I've never met him personally, but I had e-mail contact with him in the past) swears that Vince is "A fag for young men with buff bodies".

Look at Vince.  How fucking many 60 year old men can have a body like his without chemical enhancements?  None!  Just 18 months ago he tore both his quads just walking to the ring.  (Insert Kevin Nash joke of choice here.)

If he cares so little for himself, then why should he care about the workers.

True story:  Rick Rude started losing weight and his buffness.  Vince called Rude into his office and asked what was going on.  Rude told Vince that he and his wife were trying to have a child and his doctor told him to stop the "chemical enhancements".  Vince told Rude to get the fuck out of his office and come back when the little bastard was born and not before.

Remember, Rude was taking HGH when he died.  He was trying to get his physique back when his insurance policy paid out completely and try to get a job with Vince again.

Damned, Ole Anderson was a tough SOB to work for but at least he didn't demand that the workers put poison in their bodies.  Hell, when Ole found out that I was living on Percocet, he placed me in tag matches for a month so I could work as little as possible yet still show up for the house shows.  He gave me a chance to heal and still make money.  Vince doesn't do that for anyone except HBK and HHH.

DON'T GET ME STARTED!

Evil has a face, and it's Vincent K. McMahon.
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« Reply #68 on: 03-20-2007 22:10 »
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I was absolutely shocked to see Rey, Edge and Shane Helms linked to steroid case. None of those guys are overly big, and they're all fairly quick moving guys. Not people you'd associate with roided up tanks. I'm not sure if HGH is prescribed for broken necks, but it would probably explain Edge's use of them.   

Angle's name being linked to this makes a lot of sense. The man seems to be going batshit insane lately.
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« Reply #69 on: 03-21-2007 19:27 »

Lately?  He's seemingly been nuts for the past seven or eight months, and it's really come to light with him having the most insane interviews I've ever listened to (including one where he missed three cues to stop talking so they could go to commercial). 

I'm not surprised at any of the names listed - Helms got really ripped quickly, Rey got noticeably bigger, then noticeably smaller once the wellness policy took effect, and Edge's physique has been a revolving door.  When healthy, he's been ripped to the gills, and when either injured or coming back from injuries, he's been soft.

Unfortunately, I don't this SI stuff will make any long-term different with regards to steroids in wrestling.  At most, we'll see guys once again drop a lot of muscle for a short period of time so it looks like WWE is increasing the standards of the wellness policy, and then things will continue on like nothing ever happened.
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« Reply #70 on: 03-21-2007 20:54 »

By lately, I mean, since going to TNA. That only seems like a month ago, but I know it was actually August or September or something.
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« Reply #71 on: 03-25-2007 03:01 »

I saw the trailer for Austin's new movie.  It looks good.  Though it does sort of remind me of the movie The Running Man.

Ric Flair and The Four Horsemen DVD trailer was awesome.  I so want a copy of that DVD.  I wasn't a big fan of the Horsemen, esp when the NWO came along, but I liked them as heels.  I agree with JR when he says without the Horsemen, there would be no NWO or DX.  The Horsemen were the first real faction/stable/gang of pro wrestling.

TNA needs to pick up.  I still think TNA is years away before I can compare it to WCW.  WWE and WCW were like two monsters battling it out.  TNA seems to be in its infant state. I do wish TNA the best and hope it becomes just as big like the WCW was.  I just hope they don't screw up like WCW.
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« Reply #72 on: 03-25-2007 16:13 »
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
 TNA needs to pick up.  I still think TNA is years away before I can compare it to WCW.  WWE and WCW were like two monsters battling it out.  TNA seems to be in its infant state. I do wish TNA the best and hope it becomes just as big like the WCW was.  I just hope they don't screw up like WCW.

Bad news, TNA already looks like late WCW. I don't care if he's a born again christian, or if internet reports say that he isn't the main writer, the kind of stuff TNA is doing now smacks of Russo's WCW writing, He can't write for shit, no one likes him, (a fucking "Fire Russo" chant broke out at the last PPV), he doesn't know the difference between good and bad heat, and he has a bizarre sense of humor that few people can relate to. They just need to get rid of him. I'm not going to pretend that TNA was ever perfect, but they were putting on very good shows in 2005 and early 2006, and I would be absolutely astonished if it were only a coincidence that the writing quality bottomed out around the time Russo came in.

I find it hard not to rant about TNA because they showed a lot of potential for eventually becoming a viable alternative for people who don't like the current WWE style that focuses on guys built like tanks, now the only thing TNA is good for is producing future Wrestlecrap fodder. I seriously never missed a PPV or episode of Impact in late 2005 and early 2006, now I probably tune into impact about once every three or four weeks.

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« Reply #73 on: 03-26-2007 11:09 »
« Last Edit on: 03-27-2007 00:00 »

Haven't watched rasslin in a while, who is the champs these days? Is it still Cena and Lashly, does vince still have a boner for these body builder types?

It has gotten kinda boring these days, I can never watch through a whole show, I prefer the old days when they had better characters like Million Dollar man, Repo man and Doink, the evil clown not the gay face one that he became.

Another thing even though I'm a big fan of porno I'm not really a fan of mixing wrestling and porno together, its very annoying if when in the middle of wanking to a bra and panties match they suddenly switch to something like Vinces kiss my ass club.
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« Reply #74 on: 03-28-2007 02:48 »

Repo isn't exactly someone I'd consider a 'great' character, but he was a fun little act.  Lashley's only been ECW champ for under 4 months - it does feel like forever, and yes, Cena's still the WWE champion.
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« Reply #75 on: 03-28-2007 03:17 »

Joey Mercury was released from the WWE.  I heard it was due to him not passing the wellness policy or something like that.  It's a shame, he never was able to be pushed after MNM splited.  They had to have him team up with Nitro just to push him.  His injury wasn't enough to make an interesting storyline with a fued with Matt Hardy.
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« Reply #76 on: 03-31-2007 02:06 »

I can kind of understand why he was on pain killers because of how bad his face got. I hope he gets off them and turns things around, though. MNM was a great team and I don't know why WWE needs to even split guys up as opposed to just building a worthwhile tag division.
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« Reply #77 on: 04-04-2007 18:27 »
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Entrance themes from WWE The Music VOl 7 are now available on iTunes.
 http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/musicvol7

Some of the entrants include, Cryme Tyme and  Deuce & Dominoís doo-wop ditty "Iím All About Cool".  When I first heard that song I loved it.  I also like Kerwin White's theme even though I hated the gimmick. 

Ralph Snart-  I do have another question, if you don't mind.  Is there anybody that you'd love to get in the ring with that you never were able to?  If I were a wrestler, I'd love to have compete against Bret Hart, Ric Flair or Kurt Angle.  They're are just the best.

Has anybody seen MTV's Wrestling Society X?  I watched a few matches on comcast.  Does anybody know when they air on MTV?  I saw a match featuring Bret Hart's nephew, Teddy Hart.  He does the exact move as Petey Williams from TNA.  I'm surprised he's a high flyer, since he's a Hart.  I thought he'd be more of a mat wrestler.  But he was really awesome.  Wrestling Society X reminds me of old ECW mixed with old Monday Night RAW before the Monday Night Wars.

I hear Teddy Hart is being ask to sign with WWE.  They plan to form a new Hart Foundation with  Harry Smith (Bulldog's son), T.J. Wilson (Pete Wilson's brother), and Nattie Neidhart (Jim "the Anvil" Neidhart's daughter).  That would be so awesome.  I hope they end up on RAW, cause RAW needs better tag teams.

The Hardys as tag team champions is awesome, I hope the Tag team divison picks up.  London and Kendric are also awesome.  JR says they remind him of the Rock n Roll express and The Rockers.  I sort of agree with him.  I watched some old matches with the Rockers and I hope Lodon and Kendric get better competition because they are so talented and amazing.

Is the Undertaker really retiring?  I hope he defends his title at least once before he does.  Undertaker is an O.G. in the WWE and I'll miss him when he retires.
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« Reply #78 on: 04-06-2007 10:27 »

 
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Ralph Snart- I do have another question, if you don't mind. Is there anybody that you'd love to get in the ring with that you never were able to? If I were a wrestler, I'd love to have compete against Bret Hart, Ric Flair or Kurt Angle. They're are just the best.

Ric Flair - did that several times in 1979; usually in squash matches taped for TV.  I've been to several of his 'parties' which entailed getting extremely drunk and engaging in almost unspeakable and surreal antics (read his book about the time he and Terry Funk got drunk - that's the kind of stuff that happened when you partied with Flair).

Bret Hart - I wrestled him several times in Georgia on the lower card.  Ole fired him for no-showing several matches (Bret claimed he was injured but couldn't supply any proof).  Bret wasn't as refined (or large) as when he entered the WWF.  He also had a superioristic attitude because he was from a wrestling family.  In his early days, he rubbed a lot of people wrong.

Kurt Angle - man, in a straight, tight match, maybe.  In a legit shoot - NO WAY!  Kurt is more than capable of taking almost anybody apart and making them hurt along the way.  My three years of high school wrestling is totally ecplipsed by his years of training, dedication and gold medals.

Superfly Snuka was nortorious for being 'amped up' on multiple drugs back then - he gave me the worst beating I've ever had in my life.  I would love to see the amped-up Snuka tie up with a in-his-prime, batshit-crazy Kurt Angle.  Now that's entertainment.

The one that I wish I could have mixed it up with in my best days would be JBL.  He's a bully and a prick.  He may be a lot taller than I was, but I could brawl with the best of them.  I stood my own with Terry Gordy and Stan Hansen and I seriously doubt that JBL is anywhere in Gordy's or Stan's league.

Another one would be Bob Holly, another prick who likes to take cheap shots.  The only reason that these guys are able to take shots is because Vince lets them, while forbiding the others from doing the same.  I promise anybody who will listen that the first time they would have tried to go 'hardcore' on the likes of Hansen, Gordy, Mulligan or almost any of the old timers, they would have been eating their teeth.

As for the toughest tag team I ever faced, it wasn't the Andersons, or Flair/Mulligan - it was The Sheepherders.  The same tag team that Vince called The Bushwackers and made a comedy skit were at one time the toughest, meanest tandem that ever laced a pair of boots.

Put The Undertaker and JBL in a shoot match against The Sheepherders and it would be a bloodbath, with all the blood being spilled not belonging to the Sheepherders.
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« Reply #79 on: 04-06-2007 17:26 »

WSX is finished airing on MTV, and they only aired 9 of the 10 episodes shot, and burned through over half of them in one night due to ratings tanking after week one.  I enjoyed the online WSXTra show more than the main one, as it featured MATT CLASSIC!, who could be be in WWE at some point as Colt Cabana has signed to WWE.
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