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« Reply #160 on: 11-27-2006 05:20 »
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Purging that idea from my mind, I generally think of each new actor as a new agent who takes on the 007 persona.  Each goes about their job in an at least slightly different way (Connery investigates and schmoozes, Brosnan blows shit up, etc.) with their personal identities subsumed into the "role" of James Bond.  See the first Casino Royale movie for a really stupid version of this.

Still not sure why Moore's Bond would be leaving flowers on Teresa Bond's grave, except to very strictly keep the cover, but I do believe that's the only time Bond personally references/recalls a movie where he wasn't being played by the same actor.  Every other reference is by reputation, usually by someone outside MI6.

Ah, crap, I just remembered a hole in my brilliant theory.  Dalton-Bond goes batshit when they maim Felix Leiter in License to Kill.  That doesn't make very much sense, unless you take into account their friendship dating back to the start of the series.  Then again, not a lot about License to Kill made very much sense.

TOTP First Post in this topic and I sound like a smarmy bastard.

And no, I haven't seen the new Casino Royale, but...poker?  Seriously?  Peter Sellers is rolling in his grave.  Not saying that's why I haven't seen it, it's just...odd.
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« Reply #161 on: 11-27-2006 05:37 »

The novel had Bond getting his exposed genitals smacked by a carpet beater in a lengthy torture scene. I do hope that wasn't shown in the new movie.
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« Reply #162 on: 11-27-2006 11:39 »

Yep. It was quite funny if painful-looking. To get round the censor, they did more close-ups of the rope, rather than his battered bollocks.
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« Reply #163 on: 11-28-2006 00:57 »

Oh, you are kidding right? The new Bond is ugly enough with his pants ON.
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« Reply #164 on: 11-28-2006 12:07 »

Aww cmon, hes not too bad. And I guess he did manage to make a joke out of the whole thing (watch the film). He's a bit too muscly though, if you know what I mean.
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« Reply #165 on: 11-28-2006 13:50 »
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Well, I saw the new one, and I have to say that Daniel Craig fits the bill pretty well.  I loved Layer Cake, and when he was announced, I thought, yeah, good idea that.

Anyhoo, the new film is pretty good too, Craig and Judy Dench carry the film, and while the overlong ending was, well, overlong, the pay-off was pretty good.  Looking forward to his 2nd outing.

 
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Originally posted by Gocad:
Did it ever occur to you guys that the name James Bond itself is some sort of cover identity, despite all those imformation about his family background...?    tongue

I like that theory, it makes the passage of time in the series more believable.
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« Reply #166 on: 11-28-2006 14:40 »

I prefer that we're seeing individual missions of Bond, and he doesn't spend years sitting on his ass doing nothing in between when they make the movies.
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« Reply #167 on: 12-07-2006 09:38 »

I saw Casino Royale tonight.
I'm impressed. Very impressed.
Loved the back to basics spy thriller angle as opposed to over-the-top sci-fi bollocks action crapfest the franchaise became.
This one is, I think, the truest to the novel namesake since Goldfinger. Aside from minor deviatious to flesh-out the plot, and general updating of time period, it's very close to the book. Even the torture scene! Although the filmmakers counterbalanced the disturbing nature of that bit with some really hilarious comments from Bond. It worked well.

Overall, best Bond in nearly thirty years. In my opinion.
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« Reply #168 on: 12-07-2006 09:54 »

*Cries uncontrollably*

Why? WHY? It was such a beautiful car *sniffle*

YOU MANIACS! YOU WRECKED IT UP! DAMN YOU! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!

But still, why on earth would you have one of em defribulatormywotsits it there? What use could that have (other than how he used it, I mean.... shut up)
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« Reply #169 on: 12-07-2006 10:07 »

Medical emergencies. They're being packed in some upper-line First Aid kits these days - I got to play with one at my last certificate refresher course... but not on a live human unfortunately  tongue. His is a dangerous business after all, it actually stands to reason. He'd likely have more frequent use for one of them than he would have for all the fancy weapons built into previous Bond cars.

They smashed it, yeah... but it was a good smash. Plus the old DB5 survived, and I'm much more fond of that old girl.
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« Reply #170 on: 12-07-2006 10:15 »

Yeah, those were the days, before all these foreigners came along and started buying all the British car companies. Nice to see he went back to Baretta too, I don't think he changed to Walther until Never say never again (I might be wrong, but he originally had a Baretta).

That crash broke a world record, 17 & 3/4 flips without a ramp. The car was too low for a ramp so they used like a hydraulic piston thingy to flip the car.

And did you know, that the stunts in ALL the bond films were preformed by the same family? Three generations of them, pity I can't recall the name, if you look it up you'll find it.
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« Reply #171 on: 12-07-2006 10:26 »
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In the novel he uses a .25 Beretta with a skeleton grip to sit flush and flat in his shoulder holster. This lacks stopping power (especially with a silencer) so in the subsequent novel, Dr. No, M makes him change to the PPK because of a mishap with the .25.

I believe in this one he had an M9, right?

I confess I can't recall his exact armament in each of the films. I'm more closely acquainted with the books.
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« Reply #172 on: 12-07-2006 10:28 »

Which was your favourite book then? And which film do you feel did the book SOME justice?
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« Reply #173 on: 12-07-2006 10:32 »

Goldfinger. To both questions.
Although this new one is really very true to its corresponding novel. It could be on equal footing for the second answer.
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« Reply #174 on: 12-07-2006 10:43 »

In my line of work, I don't get much time to myself, it's why I'm normally online for like an hour or two then dissapear, so reeeeeeding isn't really my strong point, oh I read this stuff, and some other things while online, but books? Nah. Did alot of reading when I was younger, lord of the rings, the starwars books, that sort of thing, and have been dissapointed by the turn out of the film versions that miss sooo much of the indepth emotion and internal monologues that you get from books, they have to portray all the emotions though acting? If you saw a guy with an angry face, yeah he angry, but if he showed nothing, you'd never know. I find it easier to relate to characters in books but I just don't have time for them.  Getting back to Bond...

Being as you are fond of Bond (it rhymes.... so... shut up) Has there ever been a predicament where you thought (while watching the film version) that it's all wrong, that's not how it happened, where'd that character go? And were'd that tank come from kinda thing. Like how they changed Collosus's name in the films from the original comic books. BLASPHEMY!
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« Reply #175 on: 12-07-2006 11:07 »
« Last Edit on: 12-07-2006 11:07 by coldangel_1 »

Well... Yeah.

Moonraker. The book was about a new intercontinental missile that the villian tried to fire at London. The film was about Bond going into space and shooting lasers and crap...
But most of the Moore films were rather in rather comedic contrast to their source material.

NOTE: the theme song to Casino Royale is pretty natty.  tongue
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« Reply #176 on: 12-07-2006 12:27 »

 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:I believe in this one he had an M9, right?

I confess I can't recall his exact armament in each of the films. I'm more closely acquainted with the books.

In the films Bond's standard sidearm was the PPK until Tomorrow Never Dies, where he switched to the new Walther P99 model, which is also present in Casino Royale, although on the posters you see him holding a PPK.
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« Reply #177 on: 12-07-2006 19:40 »

Ta mate.
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« Reply #178 on: 01-14-2007 17:14 »

I enjoyed Casino Royale as an excellent MOVIE, but not as a great BOND MOVIE.

Any person who isn't in love with the James Bond movies doesn't understand that they aren't great as things to be taken seriously. What I LOVE about the 007 movies is that they manage be to be completely cheesy and get away with it completely. The action aspect just makes it so delicious.
But without the cheesiness you don't have Bond, you have some other detatched action secret agent movie, like the Mission Impossible movies (which are also pretty great).
     Anyway, in my opinion, Roger Moore played Bond best. The only Bond movie that he's in that I don't particularly enjoy is Octopussy.
     Anyway, as for "the best Bond film", in my opinion, it's The Spy Who Loved Me. Classic.
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« Reply #179 on: 01-19-2007 02:41 »
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« Reply #180 on: 01-19-2007 02:44 »

 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Moonraker. The book was about a new intercontinental missile that the villian tried to fire at London. The film was about Bond going into space and shooting lasers and crap...

You do know reason why it ended up like that don't you ?

Clue: it has something to do with the type of movies at that time
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« Reply #181 on: 12-15-2013 17:30 »

These are my rankings of the bond films, pasted from a post of mine on a bond forum. May be a controversial list but I'm not bothered - I like what I like!

23 - Die Another Day
I don't dislike this film. Hell, I even enjoy certain aspects of it. But as a bond film, it's the worst. Too much to say that's already been mentioned before, but to summarise, the CGI and slow-mo matrix-esque bits really take away from the film for me. Also I hate Jinx. I don't mind Gustav Graves, and actually think the scene where he kills his father is pretty strong. Good first half, but the film just gets too over-the-top overall.

22 - Moonraker
Always been a low-ranker for me. What does it is the whole bond in space concept, and the super-race story. I actually like space - but bond in space? A bit too far. Add in laser fights and you get a pretty ridiculous bond film. Oh and there's the Jaws love scenes. On the plus side though, we have the amazing centrifuge scene. The cable cars scene is pretty good too, and the amazon temple hq is pretty damn cool.

21 - Thunderball
Another film that has always ranked low for me. I have nothing really against it - other than I just find it a bit boring. Too much underwater stuff. Fiona Volpe however is a redeeming feature, and I really like the whole Angelo plastic surgery hijacking plane malarky.

20 - Quantum Of Solace
I enjoy watching the film but I have to admit the story telling and editing wasn't executed greatly. Mystery is one thing, but I think they made it a step too vague. Most people I've spoken to don't fully understand what the film is about and I'm not surprised. On the other hand though, it has some cool scenes (particularly the burning building), isn't too long, and has Camille who's a pretty decent bond girl.

19 - Tomorrow Never Dies
I used to hate Elliot Carver. But now I quite like him. I've grown to appreciate him as a homage to those over-the-top villains. This film has some great moments (I particularly like the free-fall, and especially like the scene where the giant Carver poster/banner is ripped). When it comes to comparing this to other bond films though, I just don't enjoy it as much as many of the others and it ends up being average really.

18 - The World Is Not Enough
Always ranked close with TND. I just think it has a slight edge, mainly because of the greatness of Elektra King. Maiden's tower scenes were good, as was the pipeline scene. Overall, an average entry.

17 - Casino Royale
This film is very different, thus hard for me to rank among the others. In terms of bond it wasn't fully my cup of tea, however, I can appreciate how cleverly made the film was. Highlights were the poison scene and the torture scene.

16 - Goldfinger
I know what you're all thinking.... but I like Goldfinger. Honestly I do. It's just that I prefer 15 others over it!

15 - From Russia With Love
It may be a bit slower, but I appreciate the story in this one. The train fight with Red Grant is the absolute pinnacle of the film. A good entry, although I still prefer many others.

14 - The Man With The Golden Gun
I'm of two minds with this one - On one hand it has an amazing villain, beautiful locations, a funhhouse, and I have lots of nostalgia with it. On the other hand, at times I feel that the film is uneventful - not much happening. And the slide whistle ruined one of the series' best stunts. J W Pepper shouldn't have returned either. With all that in mind, it ranks about here.

13 - The Living Daylights
Another film I'm of two minds with - I love the whole Afghanistan section of the film, and the climatic fight with Necros on the net of the plane is just amazing. The main villains though are weak (although I've grown to appreciate Koskov as a 'weasel'), and I can't stand Kara Milovy. Overall a good film but a little forgettable.

12 - The Spy Who Loved Me
Moore's most overrated. Although it still has it's merits. I love the Egypt scenes. The Liparus and Atlantis scenes drag a bit though. But the model of Atalantis looks amazing. Stromberg is a weak villain, but he has one of the best villain introductions ever - where he kills the girl to classical music, then kills the two professors. Brilliant stuff. Also, the PTS is possibly the best in the series.

11 - Diamonds Are Forever
This film is a bit underrated. The plot may be confusing, but I find the film to be fun, and overall very enjoyable to watch. Wint and Kidd are two of the best henchmen. I love the scene where bond is climbing atop the whytehouse. And I also love the moon buggy chase. The oil rig is a decent-enough climax, and Charles Grey's Blofeld is not as bad as I previously thought.

10 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Strong film, and very memorable. The locations are what do it for me the most, and the great skiing scenes too. Lazenby is my least favourite bond, but at the same time he's not exactly bad. I find Draco however to be an extremely dated character with his chauvinistic attitude. Overall a great bond film, though Lazenby is the weak link.

9 - You Only Live Twice
One of Connery's best for me. It has lots to love. Great locations in Japan, Tiger is a good ally, the little nellie stuff is cool, and it has a volcano lair. It may be a little comic book-esque but I don't find it TOO over-the-top. The story is good and easy to follow. A very memorable film.

8 - Goldeneye
This film pretty much has it all - great action, great villains, great girls (love Xenia), great locations. Not much else to say other than it was a great comeback film, and by far Brosnan's best.

7 - Dr No
Ends up as my favourite Connery film. I'm not surprised - this film was a sound introduction to the series. It may have been low in action, but I think it flows perfectly and works well. It's simple, yet effective. Honey Rider is the best bond girl of all. And the locations are very nice. The introduction of Dr Julius No is built up perfectly.

6 - Licence To Kill
My favourite of the two Dalton films. It may be different, and very gritty, but I think it worked really well. Sanchez is one of the series' best main villains. I really like Lupe (she should've been the main girl!), and there is lots of great action in the film, particularly the tanker chase. A lot more memorable than TLD.

5 - Skyfall
Over a year on and this film is still as great as I previously thought. By far Daniel Craig's best, and Silva is the best villain in years. There was a lack of a bond girl, but the greatness of the Skyfall Lodge scenes make up for that. An amazing bond film, although, as it's quite epic, I have to be in the mood for it. Bond 24 will have to do well to top this.

4 - For Your Eyes Only
I'm sorry everyone, but my top 4 bond films are all Roger Moore films. I thought hard about it - but I just could not place anything above these top 4. So coming in at number 4, FYEO has pretty much everything. It's a dark horse of a film really, because it's rarely talked about either way, but whenever I watch it I always have a great time. Locque is such a cool henchman. The skiing scenes are great. The ice hockey fight was cool. The sharks scene is sadistic and effective. And the mountain-climbing at the monastery is excellent, and also beautiful locations-wise. Columbo is a brilliant character, and Melina is a decent-enough bond girl. Three films beat it though, because I thought some of the underwater stuff was a tad slow.

3 - Octopussy
Yes it may be full of comedy - but it's just really fun and entertaining to watch. I almost see this film as an adventure film as well as just action - it reminds me of things like Indiana Jones. The locations are beautiful. And the circus stuff, with bond dressed as a clown trying to disarm a bomb, is ironic and brilliant. Very tense. Also, gotta love the knife-throwing twins.

2 - A View To A Kill
Most underrated of the series. The first half of the film may be a tad slow, but the film really picks up in action from the city hall fire onwards. The fire, followed by the fire-engine chase, followed by the mine sequence, followed by the blimp and golden-gate bridge fight, is the single greatest consecutive sequence of events to ever grace a bond film for me - it's just so damn entertaining. I don't care what anyone says - AVTAK will always rank high for me, and every time I watch it I enjoy it so damn much. Oh, and Max Zorin is the best villain in the series.

1 - Live And Let Die
I actually don't talk about this film that often to say it's my favourite. But that's because a lot of it is to do with nostalgia I admit. LALD was the first bond film I ever saw - so it holds great memories for me. I love Baron Samedi and the whole Voodoo theme (gave the film another adventure-esque feel). Solitaire is one of my favourite bond girls. This is just a film that I find extremely fun to watch.
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« Reply #182 on: 12-16-2013 01:57 »

I don't agree with all of that, but certainly at least half of it, and you defended your position exceptionally well.

I also agree about Die Another Day, which started out excellently, contained all the elements that should have made it awesome... but then somehow just failed to be.
I blame Madonna.
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« Reply #183 on: 12-16-2013 03:47 »

Great to see License to Kill so high up; it's always been one of my favourites. Timothy Dalton is incredibly underrated.
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« Reply #184 on: 12-16-2013 08:15 »

I totally agree with that. LTK is one of the best Bond films, and definitely deserves to be in anybody's top ten. I'm not an enormous fan of Dalton's other outing as Bond though, because whilst Dalton is a good Bond, the film isn't really anything brilliant as a whole.

I'm just going to list three of my favourites (not necessarily my top three, just three that I want to say I enjoyed) for the moment.

3. Goldfinger has all the right elements for a Bond film. Supervillain with ridiculous personal eccentricity? Check. Henchman with bizarre special attack? Check. Awesome car? Check. Fancy gadgets? Stunts? Overly elaborate deathtraps? Check, check, and check. One liners? Oh my, yes. Auric Goldfinger is one of the franchises best villains, and one of the most memorable supervillains ever. Sean Connery is possibly the best Bond there's been (Daniel Craig's been pretty damn decent though), and this film is really where the franchise picked up a lot of the momentum that's carried it through to the present day.

2. Moonraker is totally ridiculous, and I love it for that. It's also got one of the best bad guys ever in it - Jaws. As well as this, it's the direct inspiriation for many of the jokes/parody elements in the second Austin Powers film.

1. The Spy Who Loved Me isn't the strongest film in the franchise, isn't Moore's best work, and doesn't have a particularly fantastic bad guy. But it's memorable for the stunts, the action scenes, and the car. That car has to be one of the greatest film vehicles ever conceived of. I wanted one when I first saw it, and I want one still (even though I realise it's impossible).

None of these are particularly close to my top three, but all of them serve as a reminder that even the weakest Bond movie is still a good movie.
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« Reply #185 on: 12-16-2013 08:36 »

Come to think of it, Jaws was a pretty cool dude. That's definitely something that goes to Moonraker's credit, as much as I dislike the film.

On the topic of great Bond villains, who else loves Francisco Scaramanga? He alone is the reason I consider TMWTGG to be Moore's best Bond film by far.

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« Reply #186 on: 12-16-2013 08:44 »

I love The Man With The Golden Gun...but honestly that's only because of the final act. Everything before he gets to Scaramanga's island is pretty poor. All the good action scenes are ruined by the failed attempts at humor, namely with the bumbling cop and the midget, and the inappropriate use of silly Dukes Of Hazard-esque music. But the final sequence with Scaramanga's fun house and the Golden Gun itself is brilliant enough to make up for it.
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